Summary
Chris reminisces about an old photo after watching the movie Terminator. We talk about the attempted assassination of Trump and just how lucky is was.
Bungee jumping for cowards is a thing in China, while nudists to the rescue when a pirate robs people with a blowtorch.
We learn about a prison innovation from Brazil involving geese.
Vote for Epic Learning at the David Awards
We also talk about an Australian weapons system. All this and much more.
Links
Trump assassination attempt
Bunge jumping for cowards
Nudists help take down a pirate with blow torch
Prison innovation from Brazil involving geese
Vote for Epic Learning at The David Awards
How I write a podcast
The Slinger – Australian weapons system
Show Transcript
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Sam [00:00:09]:
Hello and welcome to episode 490 of the Chris and Sam podcast.
Chris [00:00:25]:
I’m Chris.
Sam [00:00:25]:
And I’m Sam. Welcome along to your weekly fix of randomness technology in life. I’m bringing the energy
Chris [00:00:30]:
to fight the tiredness
Sam [00:00:31]:
of a workday. Welcome along.
Chris [00:00:34]:
He’s still bitching about his new job. Geez, man. We’re all over it.
Sam [00:00:38]:
No. No. No. I don’t wanna I don’t that’s it. I’m not bringing
Chris [00:00:42]:
you up. I know. I’m joking.
Sam [00:00:43]:
I’ve been very busy.
Chris [00:00:44]:
I’m joking. Let’s go. Hey. I’ll tell you a thing, that that I can bitch about is the age thing.
Sam [00:00:49]:
Being old.
Chris [00:00:49]:
No. I I watched Terminator. So it’s on I think it’s on 3 or it might have been on TVNZ plus, you know, like the streaming service.
Sam [00:00:57]:
Okay. Yeah.
Chris [00:00:58]:
And so I watched Terminator the other day, and it’s 40 years old this year.
Sam [00:01:02]:
But it’s how good is it?
Chris [00:01:04]:
I it stands up really, really well. So there’s a few, what do you call them? Animations
Sam [00:01:10]:
that are
Chris [00:01:11]:
pretty I mean, 40 year old animations. But other than that, it stands up really well. I mean, the hairstyles don’t stand up really well. And it makes it I actually mentioned that I was thinking about this when I, I actually, I’m going to go into the other room and I’m going to get a photo of what I looked in 1990, nightclubbing in Morocco.
Sam [00:01:31]:
Can’t wait to see this. We will post this somewhere. We just wandered off to go get is this do you look at this photo when you fall asleep? Yeah. I mean, you got that real quick. What? Okay. What? Where are these? What’s happening
Chris [00:01:47]:
in the So so the one in the, the the one in Morocco is, me and Mohammed, Simo Mohammed Simon we called him, and we were in his mother’s house in Tangiers just before we went out nightclubbing.
Sam [00:02:01]:
Okay.
Chris [00:02:02]:
And the other one’s just, on the beach in,
Sam [00:02:06]:
banana beach. That almost doesn’t look like you in that other photo. Is that you? On the boat?
Chris [00:02:12]:
Oh, no. Neither of those in the boat.
Sam [00:02:13]:
Oh, good. Good. No. Good. Good. That’s ruined me for a bit because
Chris [00:02:17]:
I was like,
Sam [00:02:17]:
I don’t
Chris [00:02:17]:
think that’s you. I took that photo. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Sam [00:02:19]:
Okay. Anyway, we will share this photo. It’s not too bad. You’re
Chris [00:02:23]:
like Yeah. Not too bad. It’s just the clothing. The the the the the knit squared off knit tie,
Sam [00:02:30]:
and
Chris [00:02:30]:
the the pleated, pants.
Sam [00:02:33]:
Oh, you’re looking at it.
Chris [00:02:34]:
Really loved. Yeah. And the the mullet.
Sam [00:02:37]:
And you’re like, I don’t know, 52 years younger there. So that’s amazing. It’s amazing.
Chris [00:02:43]:
Anyway. Anyway. Anyway. So, yeah, Terminator. If you haven’t watched it, freaking watch it. It’s pretty good.
Sam [00:02:50]:
Yeah. What’s wrong with you? Talking about terminating people, we’re gonna talk about Trump.
Chris [00:02:54]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I get a phone call just the other day from from Jeff, my mate, Jeff Penny, and he’s like, I and I was in a meeting, so I ended up ringing him back later. And I was like, oh, hey. I missed a call from you. What’s up? And he goes, oh, just just been listening to your podcast. And I was like, dude, you called it the assassination attempt.
Chris [00:03:14]:
You called it. I was like, oh, yeah. I forgot I did that.
Sam [00:03:18]:
It’s good that we have listeners that remind us.
Chris [00:03:23]:
So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So obviously, what’s his name, man? Had a an attempt. And it was funny because, if you watch the video, there’s so much video. Yeah. He tips his head a little bit. Like, he he has that little mannerism where he tips his head when he asks a question, and that’s when the the shot went off.
Chris [00:03:44]:
And if he hadn’t tilted his head, I reckon it would have taken away the back part of his skull?
Sam [00:03:49]:
Yeah. Totally. Yeah. Totally. It’s scary.
Chris [00:03:50]:
Although Jeff just his eyes started conspiracy theories, I I just started talking about it. I was like, you see when they jumped down and it took a while to get up? That’s when they got the razor out and cut his ear to make it look good.
Sam [00:04:05]:
He had to make sure his shoes were back on. His shoe his shoes had come off.
Chris [00:04:11]:
Yeah. Yeah.
Sam [00:04:11]:
And they were doing that. And there’s a reverse shot, from behind that sort of shows a thing. And, they were talking about the guy that took the photo of Trump holding his hand up in the flag and how it’s framed really, really well. And that’s because that’s a professional photographer that’s won 2 huge photography awards in the past. Right. And they said one of the big things was once he realized shots had been fired, the photographer realized potentially where they were going to move Trump and where they’re going to come down. So there’s footage. You can see the guy moving and he doesn’t have the flashes camera in the world like it’s just average one.
Sam [00:04:50]:
And I think it’s doing I think they said it was doing probably like a 100 frames a second or something. So he’s got lots of
Chris [00:04:56]:
say he have a lot of footage to choose from.
Sam [00:04:58]:
Oh, he was holding it above
Chris [00:04:59]:
his head. And he’ll be, what do you call it? Editing it or you know in the editing software framing it properly as well because the original photo might be a lot bigger, and then he’s just Yeah. Narrowing it down to that size. Yeah.
Sam [00:05:13]:
So your theory, do you think that, they were super complacent to the b team?
Chris [00:05:20]:
No. No. No. No. No. I think it’s pretty standard. I don’t think there was a lot of, chatter about something coming up.
Sam [00:05:26]:
No. No. But from what I understand, the shooter’s a 140 meters away from Trump, and they did not they cleared everything the day before.
Chris [00:05:36]:
He’s outside the perimeter, So most of these types of vents normally are inside a basketball court or something like that so that they the perimeter is pretty solid. Like, you know, but he’s outside the perimeter. But it is it is pretty bad that that he got to the position he got into. The the counter surveillance didn’t see him. Somebody’s pointing at at him, but the the, ridge line of the roof was between the counter surveillance and them, and so didn’t see it. But apparently, a cop went up and said, what are you doing up there? And and and walked away. I heard that somewhere. I said, no.
Sam [00:06:10]:
I don’t know if the cop did that because the cops couldn’t get into where they needed to go because the fence was too hard to climb. Seen the video of that. There’s 10 of them standing around. They’re trying to shoulder barge a chain link fence. It’s stupid. They can’t You can. It’s just a little
Chris [00:06:27]:
fence, man.
Sam [00:06:28]:
Yeah. Exactly. It’s like a
Chris [00:06:29]:
Uvalde thing.
Sam [00:06:30]:
Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, so it’s a bit crazy. I was surprised in that situation that yeah. Sure. The counter snipers probably didn’t see him straight away, but they reacted bloody quick once they realized what’s going on. And there’s video footage of those guys. I just would have thought that there would have been a big drone in the sky.
Chris [00:06:47]:
Good point. Good point.
Sam [00:06:48]:
And somebody says, oh, about the sound? And they’re like, no. The flight’s super high. You wouldn’t hear it. Yeah. You don’t hear it.
Chris [00:06:52]:
Or or a blimp. A blimp with
Sam [00:06:54]:
a camera. Well, yeah, maybe. But anyway
Chris [00:06:57]:
Well, no. Because they used to use those all the time at stadiums for sports games, for football games.
Sam [00:07:02]:
No. I understand that, but I don’t think anyone’s gonna go probably blimp out for a
Chris [00:07:06]:
I’m not talking about a a a a manned blimp.
Sam [00:07:10]:
I’m talking No. I know. You’re still talking about a blimp. Yeah.
Chris [00:07:13]:
Yeah. I did. They’re they’re not that bad.
Sam [00:07:15]:
I don’t A blimp
Chris [00:07:16]:
out with a
Sam [00:07:17]:
I think you’ve got rotate. I think you’ve got better options with the technology of today with drones and stuff. Anyway, truck seems okay. They’ve got the giant the giant bandage on his ear.
Chris [00:07:27]:
That was a big talking point. So
Sam [00:07:29]:
But scary, Like, he must, like, whatever
Chris [00:07:32]:
And you gotta feel for that person that died. The firefighter that died.
Sam [00:07:36]:
Oh, yes. Yeah. Not not the assassin itself. Oh,
Chris [00:07:40]:
yes. I know.
Sam [00:07:41]:
Yeah. But you have, like, for Trump himself though. Like, I mean, I don’t know. He’s crazy in how he thinks about stuff, but, man, he must have been like, that was close. Yeah. He must be thinking that. I don’t know.
Chris [00:07:51]:
He got up and raised his fist in that. And a part of me thinks, he’s such a narcissist. He can’t believe he just believes everything happens for a reason for him. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, it’s it’s it’s almost because the argument fanatical craziness.
Sam [00:08:10]:
Because the argument was while he’s fluffing around with his shoes or whatever he’s doing, they get told in the earpiece is neutralize like the threats neutralize. It’s all good.
Chris [00:08:17]:
And
Sam [00:08:18]:
then people online like, but how did they know there wasn’t somebody else?
Chris [00:08:20]:
Like Yeah. Yeah.
Sam [00:08:21]:
But he was gonna do whatever he was gonna do and he’s an old man as well. Like people like, why don’t they get him off like super quick and all that. They have to get him off the ground. They’ve just jumped on him.
Chris [00:08:32]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:08:32]:
Which would have been like what’s going on? Yeah, it’s a scary weird situation. The knife not thing. The only other thing that sort of happened is, Tenacious D? Heard about that? They’re touring Australia and you’ve got Jack Black and Kyle Gass. They’re the 2 Yeah. Yep. Kyle Gass goes in front of a crowd and goes, oh, I should have hit him in the head and killed him. Something like that. Right? So they’ve canceled all their tours.
Sam [00:08:56]:
They’re not coming to New Zealand anymore. All the Australian tours are thing.
Chris [00:08:59]:
Because Nat was going to the Tenation.
Sam [00:09:01]:
No. No. That’s all canned.
Chris [00:09:02]:
Oh, wow.
Sam [00:09:03]:
As far as I’m sure. And basically, it’s because I was reading today some people were saying like Jack Black is so involved in all these film projects at the moment. He can’t be caught up in any of this. So he had to pull the plug and go this isn’t when that’s not us. It’s this one guy.
Chris [00:09:21]:
Yeah. Yeah. And because I was gonna say, you get that that feeling of, oh, do I want this to have happened? And the honest reaction to that because I actually stopped for a minute going, did I really want that to happen? And I’m like, nah. Because I really do that the ultimate justice would be Trump in prison.
Sam [00:09:41]:
Oh, yeah. Totally.
Chris [00:09:42]:
Hitting him killed would be making him a martyr. And, yeah, I I mean
Sam [00:09:46]:
It’s crazy both ways. I think if you, yeah, if it did happen and he get did get killed, just the footage out there that you never like it was something like, can’t believe we get to live through all these serious life events in the last 10 years all in one go. COVID, the assassination attempt, all this random stuff keeps happening to us.
Chris [00:10:04]:
So from 18/80 to 19 eighty’s odd Yeah.
Sam [00:10:11]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:10:12]:
84, there was an assassination every 20 years in the US.
Sam [00:10:17]:
Was my car chirping?
Chris [00:10:19]:
Every 20 years in the US. So it’s happened every 20 years, but we’ve had a a a 40 year hiatus.
Sam [00:10:26]:
Oh, woah.
Chris [00:10:27]:
So it’s actually been in in that sort of sense of things
Sam [00:10:30]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:10:31]:
It’s been a little overdue. And I don’t know if that included, things like the Pope’s assassination because there’s thatchers’ there was a period there, 15 year period, where there was an assassination every year, assassination around the world every year. Yeah. Margaret Thatcher, the Pope, you know, it was really, really common and somebody, I forget who it was, was commentating, was saying when he first saw this, he was saying, God, it didn’t happen because he thinks if it had if he had died, we’d fall into that again, and we have another 10 year stint of annual assassinations, just because it brings all the crazies out.
Sam [00:11:09]:
Yeah. Totally.
Chris [00:11:10]:
Yeah. Anyway, let’s talk about better things.
Sam [00:11:13]:
I, we’re coming up to our 500th podcast episode, 10 years of the Chris and Sam podcast.
Chris [00:11:19]:
Yeah. That’s better.
Sam [00:11:19]:
Randomness Technology Online. Hey. It is. And, one of the great things is, we can check out. I am looking at the stats for the podcast. Alright. And, this is not correct.
Chris [00:11:34]:
You’re looking at the wrong stats
Sam [00:11:36]:
for the No. I’m looking at a website that doesn’t want to work properly on a phone. That’s my problem. Yeah. And I should have taken a screenshot because I was going to ask you where you think all our listeners come from, and this is a bit screwy.
Chris [00:11:50]:
I would have thought the majority are from New Zealand. There’s a significant number in US. There’s a randomly reasonable amount from India, and then there’s a few scattered around otherwise. That’s what I would say.
Sam [00:12:05]:
I think from memory, it’s new it’s USA by a ton.
Chris [00:12:09]:
Oh, really?
Sam [00:12:10]:
Yep. I have no idea who’s listening to us. That’s a ton. And then we have, New Zealand, of course. India’s in the mix and then Belgium. Belgium’s really high up there. Oh, really? Yeah.
Chris [00:12:23]:
Okay. That’s cool.
Sam [00:12:24]:
That’s pretty cool. I know
Chris [00:12:24]:
one person from Belgium.
Sam [00:12:26]:
Oh, that’s good. I don’t know anyone.
Chris [00:12:27]:
But no. She lives in Canada now. No. She was from Belgium. So There we go. She listens to me. Cool. Okay.
Chris [00:12:35]:
Alright. Alright. Alright. Right. Let’s talk about some random stuff then, since you brought the random up.
Sam [00:12:41]:
Bungee jumping for cowards?
Chris [00:12:43]:
Yeah. Go for go with that then.
Sam [00:12:45]:
Yeah. You can. So basically, in China, I think it is, they will hook you up to the bungee cord and then just lower you down slowly. Where is it? In China. And it’s genius. It’s absolutely genius. You reckon? It is. You’ve got a platform, right? And you’ve got a bungee cord.
Sam [00:13:05]:
There’s only so many people that are keen to jump off head first, back first, whatever off this platform. You go, you know what? We’ll just lower you down slowly. Okay. That’s a whole little segment of other people.
Chris [00:13:19]:
I’d do Is it more scary?
Sam [00:13:21]:
No. It’d be fine. You just harnessed it and load it. I’d do that. Because I’m worried about hurting my back for the bungee jump thing.
Chris [00:13:27]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Sam [00:13:28]:
Plus I don’t wanna jump off anything. But, no. I’d I’d get lowered down because you’d still get to see a site. It’d probably even better.
Chris [00:13:35]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then you could speed up the footage. Oh, I
Sam [00:13:38]:
don’t know. You’re probably just like
Chris [00:13:39]:
It looked like Spider Man going down on a whip. Yeah. I I think I
Sam [00:13:43]:
think you look pretty bad. Pretty bad.
Chris [00:13:47]:
Yeah. That would be pretty bad. So I shared a video. I don’t know if you saw it because I shared it on Facebook.
Sam [00:13:53]:
Okay.
Chris [00:13:54]:
And it was a video by, Jason Gunn. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And, it was just such a good story and he told it well. And I was, like, Jason beat us to the story. But then I saw this article, and I’m, like, I’ve got to share it again on the podcast anyway. So, this is in San Francisco, of course.
Chris [00:14:15]:
So, this this guy, this pirate dressed as a pirate. Yeah. With a blowtorch was hassling some poor guy, trying to rob him with a using a blowtorch as a weapon.
Sam [00:14:28]:
Uh-oh. Yeah. Scary, I guess.
Chris [00:14:30]:
Yeah. And he got tackled by 2 hero nudists.
Sam [00:14:34]:
Were they near a beach? Or were they near a nudist?
Chris [00:14:38]:
No. That’s not oh my god. There’s a lot of photos in this story.
Sam [00:14:43]:
I bet they’re oh my gosh. Well, so tastefully, So were they were they just wandering around nude, or
Chris [00:14:51]:
were they near nude? They’re nudists in this area, and they’ve been working on this nudesty thing just to get people used to. Nudity as a lifestyle for for 15 years. But somebody’s like So right place, right time. Jason did say, you’ve gotta be pretty, pretty ballsy to go after somebody with a blowtorch when you’re not wearing any clothes because that’d be the worst thing ever.
Sam [00:15:14]:
I think you’d have to be super comfortable in your skin.
Chris [00:15:17]:
But no. Just the danger point of being hit with a blowtorch when you’ve got no clothes
Sam [00:15:23]:
Yeah. That’s pretty close to say.
Chris [00:15:25]:
The video’s here. And it’s worth watching, and we’ll have the link. But, somebody, the guy’s threatening him, and he’s got the blowtorch in his hand. He’s, leaning forward, and some random other guy, I think it was a storekeeper, grabbed the blowtorch and ran with it.
Sam [00:15:39]:
Oh, yeah.
Chris [00:15:40]:
And then the the the Nike guys attacked him, tackled him. So yeah. But, yeah, that’s that’s a random that’s a random story. A pirate getting tackled by 2 nudists in, yeah, in San Francisco.
Sam [00:15:54]:
It is. It is. It’s good.
Chris [00:15:56]:
And I I got this other one, this, unexpected prison innovation.
Sam [00:16:01]:
America?
Chris [00:16:02]:
Brazil. Oh. Brazil.
Sam [00:16:04]:
K. We’re cramming in more people.
Chris [00:16:06]:
So I I like this. I think it’s really cool. So what they’ve done in these this prison in Brazil is around the prison, so there’s the walls, and then there’s a bit of strip of grass, and then there’s fences. Right?
Sam [00:16:20]:
Okay. Yeah.
Chris [00:16:20]:
There’s the walls, strip of grass, and fences. And the grass looks to be, I don’t know, 4 4 meters, 5 meters wide, you know, 5 meters Yeah. For the fence. And what do you think they put in there?
Sam [00:16:32]:
I don’t know. Sunflowers.
Chris [00:16:35]:
No. Food. Animals. Pigs. Geese.
Sam [00:16:39]:
Oh, yeah. Because they’re like the number one guard.
Chris [00:16:41]:
Yeah. They really are. Yeah. Sentinel geese.
Sam [00:16:43]:
Yeah. They use them for,
Chris [00:16:45]:
It’s a it’s a it’s a type of goat Yeah. Which is called a sentinel goose. And they’re in the strip surrounding the prison. Anyone entering that strip creates an unholy racket. Yep. Like, these geese will just go off. People walking outside the fence, not a problem. Step onto the grass, they go nuts.
Chris [00:17:01]:
And they’re better than dogs
Sam [00:17:03]:
Yeah. Yeah.
Chris [00:17:04]:
Because they don’t really require any upkeep. Mhmm. They don’t really require much in the way of feed or anything. They, don’t you don’t have to take them to a vet or anything like that. They sort their own population out, and they just love being in the strip of grass.
Sam [00:17:18]:
I think
Chris [00:17:18]:
And I I it’s genius. I thought it was great.
Sam [00:17:21]:
I don’t know if we spoke about this on the podcast, but I’m sure there’s some place that uses them to guard against wolves or something or guard sheep. They use them somewhere else. I’m sure we’ve spoken about this. Not the prison but they do use them somewhere else because they are like you said got so many more benefits than a dog.
Chris [00:17:36]:
Yeah. I remember something like that. There were sheep or llamas or something, and they, yeah, they would just make a hell of a racket if anything would came around. There’s something different though about them. Anyway, so that was pretty cool. I thought that was that was a good innovation. Oh oh oh, I’ve got a big ask for everybody that’s listening. Doesn’t matter if you’re in US or India or Belgium or New Zealand.
Sam [00:18:00]:
It works everywhere.
Chris [00:18:01]:
It works everywhere. We’d like you to vote for Epic Learning. So as many of you will know, I work for Epic Learning. I contract to them, and I’ve just put us in for some awards. And when I say I put us in for awards, most of the award writing, I did the writing for. So we had we’re up for the David Awards. What are the David’s award David Awards? That’s a
Sam [00:18:23]:
good question.
Chris [00:18:25]:
I don’t know. I suspect. You should know.
Sam [00:18:28]:
You don’t
Chris [00:18:28]:
know because I read it and it’s like it doesn’t explain it. Oh. It’s for small business, but I think it’s David and Goliath Awards. David Awards.
Sam [00:18:35]:
Oh, okay. I
Chris [00:18:36]:
think it’s the small business Okay. Taking on the big business. Yeah. Okay. At least I hope it is because that’s why how I wrote the freaking application.
Sam [00:18:43]:
With Chris’s lack of research, he could be completely wrong.
Chris [00:18:47]:
Oh, yeah. No. I did read the site. It just didn’t explain what the name
Sam [00:18:50]:
of the heard of it before because the I haven’t heard
Chris [00:18:53]:
of it either.
Sam [00:18:53]:
What’s the other one? There’s another award you’re going for, Aye?
Chris [00:18:55]:
So we went to the learning l eight, What is it? LATD, Learning and Training Development Awards or something?
Sam [00:19:03]:
In the name. I’ve already figured it out. It’s an
Chris [00:19:04]:
industry thing.
Sam [00:19:05]:
Yeah. It’s
Chris [00:19:05]:
an industry thing. And we’re also, we’re applying for a lot of awards. We’re we’re working on that. It’s gonna be part of our ongoing marketing thing. But, yeah, this has got a, what do you call it, audience award?
Sam [00:19:19]:
Yeah. Participant award? That’s right. You know Public vote sort of thing?
Chris [00:19:22]:
Public vote thing. So we’ve got a link here, and we’ll put it in the in the in the show notes, please, or if you follow Facebook and stuff like that, I’ll definitely be posting that probably a couple of times in next month. It would be great to win this public vote award. I don’t know if we will get there, though. So Carl, being the smart bugger that he is Yeah. Gets into, the site, goes, if I was running a site that had voting, how would I do it? Manage to deconstruct, write write a script that goes into the website and works out what they’ve got in their thing Yeah. And it comes back with a list of them in order and how
Sam [00:20:08]:
many votes each has got.
Chris [00:20:09]:
Nice. I
Sam [00:20:09]:
like it. I like
Chris [00:20:10]:
it. And we’re at, when I when he did it, which was earlier in the week, we were at, like, 2020 or something, 26 or something, because we’d only just put it up, and we voted. And I’d I’d already put it on my social media. And but the the leading one by, like, way ahead of everyone else was, like, 500.
Sam [00:20:29]:
Wow.
Chris [00:20:29]:
And then the next one was, like, maybe a 150.
Sam [00:20:32]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:20:33]:
And then a few around, and we were out of 20, we were already, like, in the top 10, I think. So it would be amazing if we got over 500. I don’t know if we can, and it seems a little sus that they’re at 500. I’m a little bit curious about how they’re doing that.
Sam [00:20:51]:
Maybe they did it how I won a camcorder back in the day when I invented a sport.
Chris [00:20:58]:
Yes. I think you’ve told that story
Sam [00:21:00]:
on the
Chris [00:21:00]:
podcast before, but but do it loose today.
Sam [00:21:03]:
Invented a sport then public vote. Like you said, this was Bill and Ben World of Sports back in the day. And, yeah, I had a program that was clicking my mouse while I was at work and then refreshing the page, doing a hard refresh and then clicking the button, and it was just going non stop. And I was just gutted. I didn’t have more computers and more mice to use. And but they So
Chris [00:21:28]:
you won?
Sam [00:21:29]:
I well I came to like second and I won the camcorder and first was like a trip somewhere overseas to something. I don’t know. But they were miles ahead and I was like they’re doing the same thing but hit like a large scale. I’m sure of it. But, that’s how I won the
Chris [00:21:43]:
What year roughly was this?
Sam [00:21:44]:
Early 2000s?
Chris [00:21:46]:
Yeah. Yeah.
Sam [00:21:46]:
Maybe? Yeah. Because the camcorder wasn’t even high def. It was like standard def when I got it. And it but it recorded it did record to a hard drive. So there was that.
Chris [00:21:55]:
Yeah. Which was a big deal.
Sam [00:21:56]:
And, somewhere out there, my sport might be there, and I’m not gonna mention it because, I look crazy.
Chris [00:22:05]:
Internet archives. They’re our friend. Okay. I
Sam [00:22:08]:
think it’s on YouTube. Oh, no. Like, somewhere. I don’t know. I might show you.
Chris [00:22:13]:
Okay. You might have to check this out. We might have to check this out. Okay. So what else we got here? Well, have you ever heard of the How I Write podcast? I’ve been listening to
Sam [00:22:22]:
No. Who’s what’s that about?
Chris [00:22:24]:
It’s it’s, David Perrell is the host, which I’ve who I’ve never really heard of, but he is he’s really corner of the market with this podcast. And it’s he’s he’s really into writing books, fiction and nonfiction.
Sam [00:22:38]:
Okay.
Chris [00:22:39]:
He’s a writer. So I’ve been going into this writing area and doing a lot more writing recently. So I I started listening to it, but everybody’s on there. Sampo, Sean Pury.
Sam [00:22:48]:
Oh, okay.
Chris [00:22:51]:
Neil Strauss, freaking so many cool people. I I’m really impressed, and they’re really quality interviews. They’re quite long ones.
Sam [00:23:00]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:23:00]:
Yeah. Like, an hour and a half thing. Yep. But definitely good. Scott Galloway, he interviewed, which I quite liked. Yeah. So if you haven’t if you’re interested in that writing area, and you haven’t checked it out, check out the How I Write podcast with David Perell. He does them I’ve watched half of them on YouTube and listened to half of them audio, like, depending
Sam [00:23:22]:
what you And are they talking about different types of writing styles
Chris [00:23:26]:
for different things? Different types of writing styles. So Sean Pirie was talking a lot more about, you know, social media ish type things and how he deconstructs ideas and puts ideas together. Oh, okay. And Sam Perry obviously was talking about copywriting style stuff. Yeah. And then the other guys were talking about the books they’ve written or or whatever. So it it there’s a good mix in there, and the Scott Galloway one actually was talking quite a bit about, his TED talk and how he wrote and how he does those things. He does a lot of talks, and he gets paid a lot of money for his talks Yeah.
Chris [00:24:01]:
And he does all the things I tell my speakers not to do. So it was interesting.
Sam [00:24:07]:
Yeah. There’s always different Oh, yeah. There’s Both sides to him.
Chris [00:24:11]:
There’s never a one way one right way or wrong way to do it. I’m I’m not fussed about that. But, yeah, it was interesting to have his take on on on what he does. He he goes through a lot of slides. Okay. And I’m and, you know, I’m sort of, minimalist on the sides.
Sam [00:24:27]:
Most people are these days.
Chris [00:24:28]:
Yeah. Yeah. I’ve got I’ve got a load of bits and pieces here. Have you heard of the slinger?
Sam [00:24:35]:
The slinger? How does it look like?
Chris [00:24:37]:
And, of course, I’ve opened that, and it’s a YouTube.
Sam [00:24:40]:
Do I need to buy 1?
Chris [00:24:42]:
No. You don’t, but it’s it’s Australia’s aid to Ukraine in the weapons department.
Sam [00:24:50]:
Oh, okay.
Chris [00:24:51]:
So it’s a weapon system a defensive weapon system. Yeah. That can be mounted on a the back of a pickup truck
Sam [00:25:01]:
or a you
Chris [00:25:02]:
know a Jeep truck type thing obviously on something bigger as well but as small as that which a lot of these other ones can’t and it’s it’s made specifically to identify and shoot down drones because drones are a huge problem.
Sam [00:25:20]:
I love to see all these drone things.
Chris [00:25:22]:
Yeah. But these are talking small drones. Like, even the little DGI drones, it’ll detect and shoot them down. Like Yeah. So so from the big wing things with big bombs in them all the way down. And Now hang on hang on.
Sam [00:25:35]:
So Don’t forget the blumps.
Chris [00:25:39]:
But the, it’s Australian. Right?
Sam [00:25:42]:
Oh, yeah.
Chris [00:25:43]:
So it’s Australian made and and it’s like the best thing out there for this.
Sam [00:25:47]:
Oh, yes. And clinical people.
Chris [00:25:48]:
So do you know where their their expertise and I didn’t write down the name of the company and I should have. Okay. You you know where their expertise came from?
Sam [00:26:00]:
What? Have a guess. Oh, something to do with farming. Oh, deer no. That’d be here. I was gonna say deer shooting.
Chris [00:26:09]:
No. No. It’s it’s actually you you you wouldn’t guess. Okay. These guys, for 20 years, have been tracking space debris.
Sam [00:26:17]:
Oh, wow. Okay.
Chris [00:26:18]:
And they track so this this and and you should watch this video that I’ve got linked. It’s really cool. But they track debris from so there’s, you know, thousands and thousands of of large pieces of debris
Sam [00:26:36]:
Yeah. Yeah.
Chris [00:26:37]:
Going at 80,000 kilometers an hour And
Sam [00:26:39]:
we hope it all burns up.
Chris [00:26:40]:
In circles.
Sam [00:26:41]:
It’s Oh, yes. Sorry.
Chris [00:26:42]:
I’m yeah. In orbit. So it’s dangerous to satellites going up. But this they go down to, like, 5 millimeter size pieces debris.
Sam [00:26:54]:
Yeah. There’s hundreds
Chris [00:26:55]:
of thousands of these.
Sam [00:26:56]:
Yeah. I’m sure if they hit you at that speed, you’d have trouble.
Chris [00:26:59]:
Yeah. And so they these guys have been tracking this and they track, I think it’s 1 centimeter pieces up to a 5 millimeter margin of error Oh,
Sam [00:27:11]:
wow. That’s cool.
Chris [00:27:13]:
In orbit. Yeah. And they’ve been doing forever. And, like, well, you know
Sam [00:27:16]:
And are they selling that data?
Chris [00:27:18]:
Or Yeah. Yeah.
Sam [00:27:19]:
They must be saying, hey.
Chris [00:27:20]:
People use that data when they’re planning a mission, sending something up, they work it all out, then and it’s all real time. Yeah. So they have developed the system, which uses a lot of proprietary stuff in it to track drones because the drones move too quickly and erratically Yeah. For most tracking systems.
Sam [00:27:39]:
But then they’re quite bigger.
Chris [00:27:40]:
Yeah. And and and closer. Yeah. But, they, yeah. And it uses a chain gun type Oh, okay. Thing. So it’s not firing missiles, firing bullets at them Yeah. Which is a lot cheaper because there’s a German version they talked about in the video that, you know, has a missile, but it costs you, you know, $2,000 every time you send one of these mini missile things or something.
Chris [00:28:02]:
And this thing’s like,
Sam [00:28:03]:
nah, bucks 5 bucks, you know. Rattle off a few bullets.
Chris [00:28:07]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, I thought it was fascinating because I just wouldn’t have picked that as Aussies doing anything in that military space specifically. But I think
Sam [00:28:16]:
they had a contract to send them one of their trucks, a bunch of their trucks early on. So I think these military companies, you think about it, Australia would be I know they’d test some stuff here sort of but not to that extent. But the the outback in Australia, if you can get something that works in that harsh environment and you’ve got a lot of space, nobody knows what you’re doing, you’d be blowing stuff or put the crime scene there.
Chris [00:28:41]:
I’ve watched this and I haven’t got the link here because I forgot about it, but, there was another one from Australia, which is big at the moment. It’s the Ghost Shark. Have you heard about the Ghost Shark?
Sam [00:28:51]:
No. I don’t know. So it’s
Chris [00:28:52]:
What’s the Ghost Shark? The, Australia’s autonomous underwater vehicle.
Sam [00:28:58]:
Oh, yeah.
Chris [00:28:59]:
So it’s a submarine, but it works totally autonomously. And, apparently, they only just, unveiled it last month.
Sam [00:29:09]:
Yeah. Is this the thing that Trex can find the other subs?
Chris [00:29:12]:
Yeah. It can find other subs. Talked about it very bright eyed. I talked about the Manta one, which was the American one. Oh. This is the Australian one, which works quite differently. It looks quite different and, apparently has the Chinese shit themselves because the Chinese have more subs in that area than anyone else.
Sam [00:29:29]:
Oh, wow.
Chris [00:29:29]:
And these guys are are basically doing the hunt.
Sam [00:29:31]:
That’s pretty cool.
Chris [00:29:33]:
So Australia, who knew?
Sam [00:29:34]:
No. It’s good. And then there’s companies you’ve just never heard of doing things, in the background. It’s great.
Chris [00:29:40]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And and just know know where things will go from tracking space debris to, winning a war and saving democracy.
Sam [00:29:49]:
Yeah. Or coming to the end of a podcast.
Chris [00:29:52]:
Coming to the end of the podcast and planning your 11th September trip to Hamilton to, come along to our
Sam [00:29:59]:
Hamilton slash Waikato.
Chris [00:30:01]:
Slash Waikato. Yeah. Where wherever it’s going to be because, you did say last week you’d find out. Hey. Oh,
Sam [00:30:08]:
I I did ask and
Chris [00:30:10]:
I haven’t heard back.
Sam [00:30:11]:
It’s not me this time.
Chris [00:30:12]:
So we’re in discussions.
Sam [00:30:13]:
We’re in discussions.
Chris [00:30:14]:
At the venue. So that’s Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that’s all good. You all know as soon as we know.
Sam [00:30:19]:
That’s right. We’re not holding anything back, but we’ve got a bit of time. We’re okay. Yep. Until next time. Of course. I’m Sam. I’m Chris.
Sam [00:30:27]:
See you.
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