Summary
This week catch up with Chris and find out how his trip to Wellington went. Who he caught up with and the sights he saw.
We touch on the Manta5 again, this time about the potential millions in warranty claims for the liquidators.
A special type of person goes to the human rights review tribunal over getting the wrong coke, we discuss the Government changes to the science and innovation sector.
A drug dealer gets caught when his wife takes selfie on holiday, and we have some Trump in the mix as well.
Links
Mantis 5 Warrantee Claims for Liquidators
Human Rights Complaint over Wrong Coke
Callaghan Innovation Changes
Drug Dealer Caught in a Selfie
Far North TV Show
Show Transcript
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Sam [00:00:21]:
Hello, and welcome to episode 517 of the Chris and Sam podcast.
Chris [00:00:26]:
I’m Chris.
Sam [00:00:26]:
And I’m Sam. Welcome along to your weekly fix of randoms technology in life as we’re recording this on the national public holiday Waitangi Day.
Chris [00:00:34]:
Yes. Yes. So it’ll come out on Sunday, but, yeah, we’re, we’re doing it in a really sunny day because Waitangi Day generally is pretty sunny, I’ve I’ve I feel.
Sam [00:00:43]:
You feel you’ve you’ve gone through so many of them over the years?
Chris [00:00:46]:
Yes. Yes. In the centuries that I’ve been doing it. Exactly. Yeah.
Sam [00:00:50]:
The centuries. That that’s a creepy, creepy, thought. But, yes, welcome along. Hope your day is going well, your weekend’s going well, whenever you listen to this in the future because, that’s the joy of podcasting.
Chris [00:01:05]:
Yeah. So, I wanna start out with a a few shout outs. So I’m gonna shout out to, Sarah. Sarah’s, my sister-in-law, basically. Yep. And I I stayed with her in. She showed me around the community there, introduced me to a whole bunch of people. I could go down there for a week and just interview people, it turns out.
Sam [00:01:29]:
And is and and they’re just interesting people, or is there a theme?
Chris [00:01:33]:
Definitely. It’s very community themed there, I must say. Okay. Okay. So it’s, it’s a little, I guess, suburb of. Yep. But it definitely feels like its own community.
Sam [00:01:45]:
That’s cool.
Chris [00:01:46]:
So yeah. No. It’s very, very cool. So I wanna shout out to Jamie from the beer engine and, Josh and Billy from the crackery
Sam [00:01:54]:
Okay.
Chris [00:01:54]:
Which we’ll talk about in a bit. So that they’ll be listening, I think. They’ve got fridge magnets and all bits and pieces in the cars and all that sort of thing. So we’ll talk about that in a bit, but I just wanted to shout them out before I got, started. And, also, shout out to Pete Jennings and the crew. All the guys that I met, I didn’t give
Sam [00:02:16]:
them cards to the podcast, so most
Chris [00:02:18]:
of them won’t be listening.
Sam [00:02:19]:
But, anyway Okay. All good. Okay. Is there any more about your trip?
Chris [00:02:23]:
Oh, yeah. I got heaps
Sam [00:02:24]:
down trip. Okay. Alright. Well, that’s good.
Chris [00:02:26]:
So so I stayed with,
Sam [00:02:28]:
Hang on. It was the bus ride down. Did you miss the bus? Did they kick you off?
Chris [00:02:31]:
No. I did one thing that people were looking at me weird Okay.
Sam [00:02:36]:
Now you go.
Chris [00:02:36]:
Because that happens.
Sam [00:02:37]:
What is it?
Chris [00:02:38]:
Well, I I I was getting we were stopped at, Alcony. Yep. And I was coming up back up on the bus, and I thought, oh, yeah. Because we had a bit more time. It was like a half hour stop in Alkenny. So I popped the camera on the ground, got on the bus, hit record, got on the bus, got off the bus and work walked to the right, then came back and grabbed the camera. And someone was looking at me
Sam [00:03:05]:
So you’re filming you’re filming yourself?
Chris [00:03:07]:
Yeah. I was filming myself, basically.
Sam [00:03:08]:
Yeah. Good.
Chris [00:03:09]:
And so I went back in the bus, and she’s looking at me weird. And I was like, gotta get the b roll. And,
Sam [00:03:16]:
yeah. Is is there a video for are you putting together a video?
Chris [00:03:20]:
I could do. I should do.
Sam [00:03:21]:
I’ve got, quite a
Chris [00:03:23]:
bit of stuff. Video. Most of
Sam [00:03:25]:
it, the fights and stuff like that, but, yeah, I didn’t do much else with the That sort
Chris [00:03:29]:
of thing. I did get a video of Sailor. Sailor’s a dog.
Sam [00:03:32]:
Oh, okay. So that’s good.
Chris [00:03:34]:
Expensive little dog. Yep. Like, ugly little dog thing. Sorry, Sarah. It’s a bit ugly.
Sam [00:03:42]:
Of course, he can tell he can remember exactly the breed of this dog. I have no idea. She did tell me. I have no idea. Okay.
Chris [00:03:50]:
But it has she goes as, my mom calls it a d says it’s got ADD, and it does crazy things, and it does
Sam [00:03:57]:
Yeah. Okay.
Chris [00:03:58]:
And all this. And I’m like, what do you mean? Oh, just you’ll see. You’ll see. And I’ve got it on video, actually. It sits there, and then it starts looking around, and it starts jumping up and biting the air.
Sam [00:04:08]:
Is this a young dog or an old dog?
Chris [00:04:11]:
No. I think it’s yes. Four years old. Okay. Okay.
Sam [00:04:14]:
Not too bad.
Chris [00:04:15]:
So pretty young recently. And I was like, no. No. It just sees dead people. Oh. And she’s like, oh, no. Don’t tell me that. Oh, no.
Sam [00:04:26]:
That’s fine.
Chris [00:04:27]:
No. Because she’ll believe me.
Sam [00:04:28]:
And I’m
Chris [00:04:29]:
like and then then every time it did that, she goes, you’re right. It sees dead people. Exactly. I got a little bit
Sam [00:04:36]:
of video of that. I’ll I’ll I’ll give you that, edit it out and give it to
Chris [00:04:40]:
you for the show notes. So, yeah, that that was pretty funny.
Sam [00:04:44]:
So it was cool. Caught up
Chris [00:04:45]:
with family. It was really weird. So it’s great to see Liam and Brooke, I haven’t seen before. Who’s two?
Sam [00:04:52]:
How they doing? They’re all good?
Chris [00:04:53]:
They’re real good.
Sam [00:04:54]:
Liam’s loving the podcast.
Chris [00:04:55]:
Yeah. Yeah. He he’s, yeah, he’s pretty busy with work and stuff. And so Liam, I think, turned 30 or about to turn 30, something like that. Right? And his older sister is, I think, two years older, so she should be 32, I guess. And their youngest sister has just turned four.
Sam [00:05:15]:
Yeah. That’s right. Right. Yeah. Yeah.
Chris [00:05:17]:
So auntie Friar is playing with Daisy, and there’s two years between them.
Sam [00:05:22]:
Yeah. That’s what this is what happens.
Chris [00:05:24]:
So, yeah, my family’s interesting. So it was cool. And, yeah, it was good catching up with Oh. Quite amusing. I love
Sam [00:05:30]:
how you forget that part.
Chris [00:05:31]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:05:31]:
Yeah. It it I really did. Yes. So that that was good. It was it was a great Did you have
Sam [00:05:37]:
to explain a podcast to him
Chris [00:05:38]:
what it was? I didn’t I didn’t try. Okay. I didn’t go. No.
Sam [00:05:41]:
No. I wasn’t sure if you would or not.
Chris [00:05:42]:
I gave him bottle opener. He knew what that was for.
Sam [00:05:44]:
He was needs.
Chris [00:05:46]:
Needs. Needs. Photo on Facebook of me getting the shit crap beaten out of me. You’re, like, only nineteen
Sam [00:05:51]:
twenty then, aye? 21. Oh, ’21? Yep.
Chris [00:05:53]:
Twenty
Sam [00:05:54]:
one. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So it was 21
Chris [00:05:56]:
last Friday. Break that. Yeah, it was a few months before my 20 birthday, I think. Okay. And Jim, who was, attacking me at that point, I sort of spent most of the day with him. He’s really good. But he’s, like, 73 now. It’s sort of
Sam [00:06:15]:
Yeah. It’s totally cray It’s a weird time shift,
Chris [00:06:17]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, he hasn’t changed much. So it was good catching up with a whole bunch of people. In fact, I met a guy named Matt. Martin Todd, who I worked with at Telecom, I recognized him.
Chris [00:06:29]:
We had a bit of a chat. Yeah. And he goes, I’m second in command to Matt and ended up, you know, having a few drinks with Matt and stuff. And his dojo is on Peachgrove Road, and so I might be going back to training. Okay. Good. So that should be fun.
Sam [00:06:43]:
There’s people older than you still doing this.
Chris [00:06:46]:
Oh, yeah. Absolutely. So Pete Pete, who’s Jim’s brother, on point, I went down. He was my instructor. He celebrated fifty years since he first walked into his first training session.
Sam [00:06:59]:
It’s a long time, Yeah. Like Yeah. For anything. Yeah. Like, absolutely. Anything. So Absolutely. Well done.
Chris [00:07:05]:
So, yeah, it was good, and the tournament was good. The fighting was good. I got some video of that. I might put something together sort of,
Sam [00:07:12]:
of the knockouts and bits and pieces if I can edit it together. But I’m not in
Chris [00:07:16]:
a hurry to do that. So
Sam [00:07:17]:
You might have some animation to do first. Yeah. I might have a whole I’ve got a lot of work
Chris [00:07:22]:
to do before I get to that. And so I I did wanna mention, so I ended up getting interviewing some people in Titahi Bay. So we’re working
Sam [00:07:30]:
this go? You’re just like, hey. I wanna talk to you.
Chris [00:07:33]:
Around you freaking hell. I so I took my microphones down, the wireless microphones at FedEx.
Sam [00:07:38]:
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Chris [00:07:39]:
Because I wanna show them to Sarah because she’s talking about doing a crime podcast.
Sam [00:07:43]:
Oh, that’s right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Chris [00:07:44]:
Yeah. So I’d shown her that the night before, and and then so the next day, the Saturday, we are walking around, taking the dog for a walk around the beach in Tahitahie Bay and, and going back and landing around. She goes, oh, yeah. No. Crossroad, go back here. I wanna show you the crackery. Okay. I’m like, what the hell’s a crackery?
Sam [00:08:05]:
I have no idea. I have the cracker.
Chris [00:08:07]:
Okay. Like, in Hamilton, that’s where you’d sell the crack, I guess. She goes, no. That’s where they sell crackers, Tatahi Bay crackers. So I’ve got a whole bunch of photos, and I ended up, interviewing Josh from the crackery.
Sam [00:08:20]:
Now are these crackers famous, or is it just good branding at this point in time or both? Or I don’t know. I’ve never heard of it before.
Chris [00:08:26]:
Okay. So they’re called Titahi. Okay. From Titahi, I guess. It’s just Titahi. They do, granola and crack crackers that are, what’s the keto friend? Paleo pale
Sam [00:08:40]:
paleo? Kilo. Kilo, paleo, whatever? Yeah. Paleo. Yeah. Paleo.
Chris [00:08:43]:
Yep. Crackers and all that sort of thing Okay. And granolas. And so this little store they’ve got, they they make all those things, and they also have, you know, jam from Otago. And it’s like a like a farmer’s market in a store.
Sam [00:08:56]:
Yeah. Yeah.
Chris [00:08:56]:
But the things they sell, they sell to Moore Wilsons, which is like the, Gilmore’s of of Wellington.
Sam [00:09:03]:
Pretty pretty massive.
Chris [00:09:04]:
Yeah. It’s pretty big, and and they’re in a few different stores up and down the country. So it’s pretty cool. So I had a had a little interview with him, and we might put that out. I’m talking to somebody. We’ll talk about that.
Sam [00:09:14]:
He’s looking at me.
Chris [00:09:16]:
We might put those out as a
Sam [00:09:17]:
separate You were down there, and I think you sent a message that said, I’m doing interviews in Tatahi. And I was like, I don’t know what that means, but I’m sure I’m gonna see files at some point.
Chris [00:09:25]:
Yeah. Yeah. So I’ve got that one interview with them, and then I got another interview, a a little bit further around the the the the, another part of the community there with Jamie at the beer engine. Now the photos of this bar, if you’re gonna go into a craft bar in Wellington Yeah. And let’s face it, If you’re gonna visit Wellington and you’re into beers, you wanna do the craft beers thing. I’m looking at you, Jeremy Howson. Yeah.
Sam [00:09:53]:
I was just thinking Jeremy Howson is getting all excited.
Chris [00:09:56]:
Yeah. You wanna go to the beer engine
Sam [00:09:59]:
and And say that Chris sent you.
Chris [00:10:01]:
Yeah. Well, it I got load of photos because it’s so well created. It looks like it’s got that industrial vibe
Chris [00:10:10]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:10:10]:
Thing going on. So, yeah, it’s it’s really cool, but they, that they they’re a full on brewery. And I didn’t realize because they do the hand pull pumps. You know? The hand pull pump’s not the just a tap with gas pushing it through.
Sam [00:10:27]:
Okay.
Chris [00:10:27]:
Yep. And those things in The UK are called beer engines. Oh, I
Sam [00:10:31]:
didn’t know that.
Chris [00:10:32]:
I didn’t know that either. And I said, oh, really? And he goes, yeah. No. Everybody calls them hand pulls even though, technically, their name is beer engine. And it probably comes from, like, a Victorian era.
Sam [00:10:42]:
Oh, bound to.
Chris [00:10:43]:
When when they called it interview, I called it the engine room a couple of times, which
Sam [00:10:46]:
is Sounds like sounds like something good too. Sounds good. I’ll just make it up.
Chris [00:10:51]:
Yeah. And, yeah, that’s it. Sounds like me. I got a free beer there. It was really nice too. And, yeah. And and Sarah’s getting all excited. Oh, we can go to this place here as well.
Chris [00:11:01]:
I mean, you can interview them. We can go to this place.
Sam [00:11:04]:
Trying to jack up all these interviews?
Chris [00:11:05]:
Yeah. A %.
Sam [00:11:06]:
Is she doing the introduction, or are you doing it?
Chris [00:11:08]:
She’s a she she knows everybody.
Sam [00:11:09]:
So Oh, that’s good. Because I thought it was like, imagine just turning up cold. Hey.
Chris [00:11:13]:
Yeah. She’s got a mugged up. Yeah. No. She knows everybody. She’s very
Sam [00:11:17]:
Well connected.
Chris [00:11:18]:
Well connected. She is a character and a half.
Sam [00:11:22]:
Okay. Very good.
Chris [00:11:23]:
So that’s unsurprising being part of my family, and I think that’s, pretty much it for my trip.
Sam [00:11:30]:
Oh, excellent. Well, that’s good. Hey. We were, talking last week about the failed start up, with the electric motorbikes in New Zealand.
Chris [00:11:39]:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. What was it called in?
Sam [00:11:42]:
Yeah. Whatever. Yeah. But at the end of that story, I was talking about the Manta five.
Chris [00:11:48]:
That’s right.
Sam [00:11:49]:
And the liquidators. There’s another story that’s come out about them now, just recently, like, in between. The liquidators are hanging on because they’re gonna be facing millions of dollars in potential warranty claims, more than tripling the potential amount owed far, which is said to be around 3,400,000.0, but they’re still trying to find out the final amount.
Chris [00:12:13]:
I I I I need to look this up because I don’t I wanna know why it’s failed.
Sam [00:12:20]:
Well, one of its biggest problems is it did not have a battery in it. So if you stop pedaling, it would just stop, and that’s not a good selling point. So they actually had a whole bunch of money they owed to different people. Sounds like, they owed IRD, b n zed, a whole bunch of money. They paid all the stuff, their wages and annual leaves. That was only $61,000. Yeah. The other stuff.
Sam [00:12:48]:
Voluntary administration. It does say here they owned, obviously, father and son, guy Howard Willis, who you know. They they had the majority of shares in the parent company, and then
Chris [00:13:05]:
yeah. I might have to see if we can get ahold of Guy and have a chat to him. Cool. Because it it’s a shame because it was a great idea. It’s a great invention. It’s pretty cool, and I am surprised that it fell over in such a spectacular way. Because you’d think if you invented something that worked, you would license it out to another manufacturer to build?
Sam [00:13:26]:
Yeah. So that’s an interesting point. I don’t know, what happened there.
Chris [00:13:32]:
Yeah. I don’t know.
Sam [00:13:33]:
Now how upset would you be?
Chris [00:13:34]:
It was probably God’s plan. Yes. I’m Because a
Sam [00:13:37]:
guy had
Chris [00:13:37]:
a very specific thing about the God plan thing.
Sam [00:13:40]:
Good. If if you got given Coke Zero instead of Coke no sugar, how upset would you be?
Chris [00:13:47]:
I wouldn’t notice.
Sam [00:13:48]:
Okay. Well, you know who would notice? Taiming Zhang. He decided to take the James Cook Hotel to the highest human rights jurisdiction in the land because they ruined his New Year’s Eve. He went in there, and the bartender said, we don’t have that one. We’ve got this one. They’re basically the same thing. Don’t worry about it. So he goes, takes him to the tribunal.
Sam [00:14:11]:
He just wants to waste a whole bunch of time, and he tries to get some money back. Now this dude, whoever he is, I assume it’s a guy. Apologies if it’s not. They moved him when he was at Victoria University from one side of the halls of residence to another, and that meant he had to walk uphill. So he also took them to the Human Rights Tribunal and needed what he wanted $35,000 in compensation.
Chris [00:14:41]:
So that’s So I’m I’m not an anti immigrant sort of person, but these are sort of people we can do without. And that’s not a racial thing. It’s an anti
Sam [00:14:49]:
immigrant think you need idiocy. I don’t think you need the immigrant thing. We just don’t need the idiots.
Chris [00:14:53]:
Yeah. That’s what I mean. Yeah.
Sam [00:14:55]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:14:55]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:14:55]:
It the tribunal says it takes about two years to bring a case to completion from start to finish and to make a ruling. Obviously, they basically threw this one out, but he’s an idiot.
Chris [00:15:07]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:15:08]:
I look forward to hearing more about this guy in the future because if he’s done that on two occasions on the two silliest points you could probably imagine, Just imagine, when he gets a speeding ticket or someone cuts him off or anything else. Trivial in his life.
Chris [00:15:22]:
Yeah. Yeah. That’s that’s painful. Hey. I wanna ask you a question now. I’ve got a couple of links here, but I’m not gonna go through them because I don’t wanna get get so in-depth into them.
Sam [00:15:32]:
It will get triggered.
Chris [00:15:33]:
Yeah. I will get triggered. There was actually, I will open one of them, and he says that, and he presses the wrong link. Okay. So Callahan Innovation. Yeah. Has been scrapped.
Sam [00:15:45]:
Yeah. That’s right. We’ve got we don’t like science. We’re gonna get rid of science in the country.
Chris [00:15:49]:
Well, they are refocusing science and innovation and technology. So according to the government, they’re making these changes. Now there’s a count through
Sam [00:16:03]:
the can move to Australia.
Chris [00:16:04]:
Yeah. There’s four public research organizations. So they used to have CRIs, which were Crown Research Institute.
Sam [00:16:10]:
Yep. Okay.
Chris [00:16:11]:
And there were, I think, three of them. Oh, there’s seven. Seven of those originally. And now there’s three public re research organizations because, you know, it’s not a government change unless you have a new acronym, obviously
Sam [00:16:25]:
Of course.
Chris [00:16:25]:
And a fourth new, one. So there’s actually four
Sam [00:16:28]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:16:28]:
Public research, organizations. And they are, going to be, focused on different things. So the first one’s bioeconomy.
Sam [00:16:38]:
Okay.
Chris [00:16:38]:
Alright? That’s bringing together ag research. Yep. Manaaki Whenua, the land care research
Sam [00:16:44]:
Yep.
Chris [00:16:44]:
Plant and food research, and Scion. I don’t know what Scion is.
Sam [00:16:48]:
Scion’s Scion’s Forestry. Oh, is it? That’s in Rotterdam. Yep.
Chris [00:16:51]:
And the this PRO will drive innovation, enhance the value of New Zealand’s bioeconomy, fostering economic growth, and ensuring environmental press prosperity. Excellent. Woo hoo. Okay. Then the next one is earth scientists. It’s earth sciences That’s right. Including climate and hazards resilience.
Sam [00:17:12]:
Mhmm. Get into that mining.
Chris [00:17:13]:
Okay. So for for bringing together National Institute for Water and Atmospheric Research, NEWA
Sam [00:17:19]:
Yep.
Chris [00:17:20]:
Institution of, Institute of Geological and Nuclear Sciences, and NEWA is going to, acquire MetService as a wholly owned subsidiary.
Sam [00:17:34]:
Yeah. They got announced a while ago.
Chris [00:17:35]:
That one. Not a bad thing. I I don’t think, NEWA owning MET services is a bad thing.
Sam [00:17:42]:
No. No. There was some talk about that a while back.
Chris [00:17:43]:
Yeah. Then you got health and forensic sciences services. Cool. Because we don’t seem to care about anyone’s health in this country, but, yeah, okay. Whatever. And, then we’ve got new advanced technology focused PRO, which will deliver research while building capabilities and commercial outreach. So, anyway, the point of this is that they’re looking for offshore investment in all these things. Yeah.
Sam [00:18:07]:
Yeah. They love it. So we wanna we want the offshore money.
Chris [00:18:10]:
What bugs me is, like, Callahan Innovation, I thought, had a really good brand. Now I admit there’s does. Probably a bunch of things that could have been better in spending. Although, I would say that the whole point of a research organization is that you spend money not knowing what bits of it will pay off. No. If you know what’s going to pay off, then it’s not No. Research.
Sam [00:18:36]:
No. You’ve got it wrong. So the government is supposed to provide services to, the country from taxes. You got it wrong. It’s for them to make money, and they’re gonna sell all this stuff to their mates to do whatever they want. Shane Jones is all excited because he can mine anywhere now, I think. He’s just anywhere. Doc doesn’t matter.
Sam [00:18:56]:
He’ll just dig a hole. It’s all good. Don’t know what you’re worried about. Everything’s gonna be fine.
Chris [00:19:02]:
So, anyway, so I I’m I’m a bit peeved at this and yeah. So the Crown Research Institute, as I understood it, or the, you know, the Callahan Innovation and those things, we’re building the capability of our people to create things that are of value. Right? And, yeah, you spend a lot of money and stuff like that.
Sam [00:19:22]:
Term you need the short term look.
Chris [00:19:24]:
These guys seem to be selling off
Sam [00:19:26]:
No. They are.
Chris [00:19:27]:
The ideas to everybody overseas. I I do not see the long term gain in this. I’d it just seems so short sighted. It’s stupid.
Sam [00:19:35]:
No. There is no long term gain. Luxon literally stood up the other day and said, oh, we’re gonna sell everything. We have to get investment. We’re gonna do this and that. The woman, what’s her face? Willis, she was just like, oh, we’ve got a we’ve got a plan for the boats now.
Chris [00:19:50]:
Is it the finance check?
Sam [00:19:51]:
We’ve got we’ve got a plan for the boats now. The ferries. So the ferries were supposed to be delivered end of this year or start of next year, and then they scrap that deal costing $3,000,000,000. And now they’re gonna go out, because I got a plan now, to then try and find somebody that will build these for us and not go no with less capability, no rail, I don’t think, and maybe not upgrade any of the infrastructure. And it’ll be fine because you know what? Labor’s bad, and we said no to whatever they wanted to do. It’s okay. That I’m I’m He’s gonna have aneurysm.
Chris [00:20:30]:
I’m looking at I’m stroking out over here. This is not good. I’m so I’m apoplectic. It’s a okay. Alright. Meanwhile, I guess the good news is we aren’t Canada or Mexico, and we don’t have a trade war.
Sam [00:20:47]:
What about Gaza? He’s gonna take that over.
Chris [00:20:49]:
Oh, yes. I heard that this morning as well. I was like, what the hell?
Sam [00:20:53]:
He mentioned that, and his head of I don’t know what she was. There’s a woman in the background, and
Chris [00:20:58]:
she was just shaking her
Sam [00:20:59]:
head going, what is going on? Like Fuchi did when he was talking about injecting the
Chris [00:21:04]:
Bleach.
Sam [00:21:04]:
Bleached cheese. It’s the same thing, and this woman’s going, what is going on?
Chris [00:21:08]:
Yeah. Yeah. That’s diabolical, and and he just lied. He just continually lies. It he’s
Sam [00:21:16]:
Nobody calls him out on anything.
Chris [00:21:18]:
He’s been on, in power for fifteen days, and it feels like forever, honestly. But yeah. What could go wrong? Lied about it because he said everybody agrees, and, the, UAE, The United Arab Emirates
Sam [00:21:32]:
took
Chris [00:21:33]:
out a thing basically saying Trump lied. We don’t we didn’t say we we want US to take over Gaza. We do want a Palestinian nation there. So it’s insane. We’re living in an insane world. Either that or I’m I’m definitely stroking out in the bed somewhere in the
Sam [00:21:53]:
No. No. No. It’s a it’s a combined group effort, I think. Hey. This, guy called Louis Louie Gajabli, whatever. He was wanted in The US on charge of exporting cocaine from Costa Rica, but he was holidaying in London. And his wife started posting social media posts, and he’s in the photo, in one of these posts.
Sam [00:22:18]:
And, the DEA was following his wife online, basically, and was like, oh, there’s some photos of them in front of the Eiffel Tower in Europe. Oh, and then they’re in front of,
Chris [00:22:29]:
you know, in Rome Ben or whatever.
Sam [00:22:30]:
In Rome.
Chris [00:22:31]:
Oh, no.
Sam [00:22:31]:
The only thing that would make this even better because it was over, like, the New Year period, Christmas, it would just it it would bring me great joy if Ryan was in the background because he he was there at the same time randomly.
Chris [00:22:44]:
Ryan’s, Sam’s friend that, Sam does
Sam [00:22:46]:
a bit of work for him. So So this dude, for some reason, has survived a bunch of assassination attempts as well. So but they were like, oh, he’s, yeah, he was she was just recording all these photos everywhere. He’s currently contesting extradition to The US. But, yeah, it it was pretty easy for them to track down. You gotta think about that that way. Like, no matter where you go, you could be in the background of something. Oh, yeah.
Sam [00:23:12]:
Yeah. And and this If you’re so much
Chris [00:23:14]:
there’s so much surveillance these days.
Sam [00:23:17]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:23:17]:
Yeah. And the NSA does go through it all, like, you know. Speaking of the drug thing, I mentioned this to you before the show, but I’m gonna mention it on the show because I think it’s cool. Should check out Far North. It’s on TBNZ. No. It’s on, three. Yeah.
Chris [00:23:33]:
Let’s get the mixed up which one it is. It’s on three, I think. And it’s a I wanna say four or five part maybe five or six part miniseries Yeah. Starring Timur Erin Morrison and Reuben Malcolm. And it’s just it’s a true story about I
Sam [00:23:50]:
think we spoke about the story on the podcast back in the day.
Chris [00:23:53]:
Oh, maybe we did.
Sam [00:23:54]:
Because the story is so batshit.
Chris [00:23:56]:
Yeah. It it is. And then I because we started watching it. Sarah was telling me about it. So we started watching it, and then I said, hey. Have you ever this reminds me of Pain and Gain, and she’s like, what’s that?
Sam [00:24:06]:
Oh, yeah.
Chris [00:24:07]:
So if you haven’t seen Pain and Gain, that’s mental as well. Yeah. And that was on, TVNZ. So we just flicked over and watched the whole of Pain and Gain. Alright. So that’s with, The Rock and, Wahlberg. You’re Mark Wahlberg. Mark Wahlberg.
Chris [00:24:23]:
Yeah. And it it’s definitely something you have to watch once because it’s just batshit. And it just yeah. I’m I dear. I and I I keep thinking about Trump because I can’t stop. But the the big thing is some some big conservative on the Wall Street Journal have just gone. Oh, I’ve just realized. He’s just stupid.
Chris [00:24:48]:
Hello? He’s just stupid, but it’s really hard to, combat stupidity because
Sam [00:24:55]:
They don’t know. Yeah.
Chris [00:24:56]:
When you give a reasoned excuse to stupid, it just bounces off the stupid armor because it doesn’t like, there is no reasoning.
Sam [00:25:03]:
No. No.
Chris [00:25:04]:
So the only way and I put this comment in there. The only way to, combat stupidity is to ridicule the stupidity. And we all know how much Trump hates it when people laugh at him. That’s what that’s why he hates all, you know, the John Olivers and the John Stewarts and all those people, Jimmy Kimmel’s, because they make people laugh at him. And you remember when he in the first season when it the first season of Trump, you know, season one
Sam [00:25:35]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:25:35]:
Where he, spoke to UN and the whole U UN started laughing at him. Alright. Could do you remember that?
Sam [00:25:41]:
Not really. No.
Chris [00:25:42]:
No. He basically said, I’ve done more in my presidency than anybody has ever done in the history of all presidencies, and it started off a little today. And then the whole UN’s last night, cracking up. And he stops, and he’s like, didn’t expect that response. He actually says that.
Sam [00:26:02]:
Oh, okay.
Chris [00:26:02]:
Because he’s he’s like, why are they laughing at me? Because what you said was fundamentally stupid. And then, Ardern, who was over there for that, got interviewed on Stephen Colbert’s show Yeah. And he goes, tell us about that moment.
Sam [00:26:17]:
Oh, yeah.
Chris [00:26:17]:
And she goes, it was quite funny. All these people, there’s a bit of snicker here and snicker there, and then it just caught, and everybody’s laughing. Yeah. And she he goes, so did you laugh? Because I love Jacinda Ardern. She’s a great communicator. She had a perfect response. Like, the comedic timing was perfectly. She goes, I observed.
Chris [00:26:42]:
Maybe you have to see it. But yeah. So Maybe. But Trump you can look that up. It’s on the Internet. It’s great. But, yeah, Trump that’s that’s what we have to do is we’ve gotta make everybody laugh at Trump. That’s just it.
Chris [00:26:53]:
The problem is he’ll either crumble or more likely he’ll explode and do something ridiculous.
Sam [00:27:01]:
Anyway well, he might already be doing that. Have you seen the memes of why he’s, done the thing with, Canada? Because Melania, the only time she’s ever smiled and looks like she’s actually interested in somebody is with old Trudeau.
Chris [00:27:13]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Sam [00:27:14]:
So there’s a whole bunch of that Yeah. Which is probably true. We’ll finish this episode with a real quick thing that you could watch if you want coming up, Chris. Netflix have coming out in American summer. So later on the year, I guess, Titan. It’s a documentary examining Ocean Gate CEO, Stockton Rush, and his quest to become the next billionaire innovator. I said to someone at work, I said, I hope the very last minute of it is just like, boop, just gone.
Chris [00:27:45]:
Yeah. Oh my god.
Sam [00:27:47]:
That’s a screenshot, I think, from it.
Chris [00:27:49]:
It would be great to I I I’d like to see that. I’d be interested in that. I still haven’t seen, The Apprentice documentary that did so well on cans. Trump tried to cancel it be or tried to squash it before the, before the election.
Sam [00:28:04]:
Oh, okay.
Chris [00:28:05]:
But it went through.
Sam [00:28:05]:
No. I haven’t seen it.
Chris [00:28:06]:
And it’s apparently really, really good and some good actors. I can’t remember their name.
Sam [00:28:11]:
And Oh, that’s right. I’ve seen the trailer of it. Yeah. That’s right. Because the guy looks looks different.
Chris [00:28:15]:
Good job. The young Trump and his, Kone, Roy Kone has, the guy that taught Trump how to be an asshole, basically.
Sam [00:28:25]:
Oh, okay.
Chris [00:28:26]:
And I I’d really wanna see it, but I haven’t seen it, anywhere available to watch yet.
Sam [00:28:31]:
Okay. Well, that brings us to the end of this podcast all wrapped up in a nice neat bow for your brain cells.
Chris [00:28:37]:
Yes. Welcome along to all the new listeners we got from my, sojourn in the South. Every week, thirty minutes,
Sam [00:28:44]:
Random’s Technology in Life comes out on Sunday. Oh, I keep meaning to say that. I think originally, we were publishing whenever, then we got into a rhythm of publishing around 08:00 on a Sunday. And then at some point, I started doing it at 07:00 in the morning, and sometime I don’t yeah. Exactly. I don’t Why? I don’t know. And I and I don’t know if people are expecting that, like, to tick over at seven. I’m still editing sometimes at 07:00 in the morning because I’m too tired the day before to do it, so I’m just doing the morning.
Sam [00:29:16]:
So it comes out Sunday morning reasonably early. How’s that? But, yeah, don’t expect it at specific time. No. Don’t expect it at seven.
Chris [00:29:25]:
But if it’s not there by twelve, we do need to find it. Somebody’s usually getting a hold of me and going
Sam [00:29:30]:
Let us know.
Chris [00:29:31]:
Something wrong with the podcast? I haven’t seen it yet.
Sam [00:29:32]:
Yeah. I’m like,
Chris [00:29:34]:
talk to Sam. Actually, they don’t talk to me anymore. Nobody asks me anymore.
Sam [00:29:39]:
That’s right. They they know the secret.
Chris [00:29:41]:
They know the there’s a the worst kept secret in history is that Chris does nothing.
Sam [00:29:50]:
Okay. With that, I’m Sam. I’m Chris. See you. Bye.
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