Summary

Chris is battling a lingering sickness while Sam’s busy hunting down tiny plastic ducks hidden around the house. This week, the guys talk Barbie and Oppenheimer, binge HBO’s Chimp Crazy, and discover the wild world of milking snails for ancient purple dye.

There’s tales of ocular cat bugs, a moon-bound nuclear plant courtesy of China and Russia, tourists snapping selfies via Chinese CCTV, and jailbirds with a flair for dramatic exits.

All this and much more in this week’s episode.

Links

Barbie
Chimp Crazy
Milking snails
Harvard Had Another Win
Cat’s causing problems with Toxoplasmosis
Tourist in China getting selfies a different way
Waste Management Team Leader in Trouble
Russia and China to Build nuclear power plant on the moon
Potential new TV show coming

Show Transcript

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Sam [00:00:21]:
Hello, and welcome to episode 532 of the Chris and Sam podcast.

Chris [00:00:26]:
I’m Chris.

Sam [00:00:27]:
And I’m Sam. Welcome along to your weekly fix of randomness technology in life, the podcast, that everybody needs, but they don’t know about it yet.

Chris [00:00:37]:
Yes. It’s it’s, a life sustaining force for you that are listening. The rest of them are all withering away, not knowing what they’re missing.

Sam [00:00:45]:
I think they’re missing something from their life, and it happens to be us, maybe. Some people are listening. I don’t know. One day, we’ll find out, maybe. Maybe maybe one day when we do a in person thing again, all these randos are gonna turn up and surprise us.

Chris [00:01:00]:
Yeah. Yeah. It could happen.

Sam [00:01:01]:
Anyway, how’s your week been?

Chris [00:01:03]:
Good. Oh, well, actually, no. I should say absolute crap, but, nobody wants to hear that.

Sam [00:01:08]:
Is this just is this from the sickness or something else?

Chris [00:01:11]:
Oh, just just sick. Just sick.

Sam [00:01:12]:
You’re right. I thought That’s it. Nobody wants to hear about it.

Chris [00:01:14]:
After the last time I spoke, I thought I was on the mend, but actually got worse for a couple of days. So

Sam [00:01:20]:
But you think you had COVID?

Chris [00:01:22]:
Nah. Oh, didn’t even occur to me.

Sam [00:01:24]:
Wouldn’t know. No one tests? No. Oh, that’s no that’s no good. Hopefully are you better now?

Chris [00:01:30]:
I I’m feeling much better today, although I will be going to bed straight after this. I’ve,

Sam [00:01:34]:
like, I’ve

Chris [00:01:35]:
done my dash for today.

Sam [00:01:37]:
Exciting.

Chris [00:01:38]:
But that’s me. What’s your week been like?

Sam [00:01:40]:
Yeah. Not too bad. Busy at work. I watched the Barbie movie.

Chris [00:01:45]:
Oh, okay. I think I’ve seen that. Yeah. I have seen that.

Sam [00:01:49]:
I did not like it.

Chris [00:01:52]:
I thought it was alright.

Sam [00:01:53]:
I no. I just Funny. No. No. I honestly thought it was stupid. I honestly

Chris [00:01:58]:
Well, it’s a kid’s movie, so I

Sam [00:02:00]:
I couldn’t even imagine a kid sitting through it, to be honest. I literally have not had that reaction to a film in a very long time. Great Oh, really? Great set. Great actors. I just thought it was the stupidest idea in the world. And the concept was great. Like, the the theme, I guess. I just thought the story was absolute shit.

Sam [00:02:20]:
And I don’t normally feel that way about films, but this definitely, yeah, didn’t like that.

Chris [00:02:25]:
Okay. Alright. I can’t remember enough about it to say I don’t know. I didn’t have a really negative negative, thing to it.

Sam [00:02:34]:
It would have been, someone I work with did the Babenheimer, where you watched Oppenheimer and then Barbie back to back. I was like, that would have been so brutal.

Chris [00:02:42]:
I still haven’t watched Oppenheimer.

Sam [00:02:44]:
Oh, Oppenheimer’s great. It’s just long, but really good.

Chris [00:02:47]:
Oh, okay.

Sam [00:02:48]:
I’ll tell you I’ll tell you what also was good because you got me onto it, and then I had to binge all four episodes. It was bloody chimp crazy.

Chris [00:02:56]:
It’s great.

Sam [00:02:56]:
And doco We

Chris [00:02:57]:
gotta we gotta put the word out about chimp crazy. If you’re listening to this, you haven’t watched it, put on your watch list. You have to watch chimp crazy girl.

Sam [00:03:05]:
It’s made by the same director that made, the Tiger King. And this time, it’s about chimps and crazy woman or maybe

Chris [00:03:14]:
And and I assumed because I mentioned it on the podcast about a week ago or two weeks ago or whatever.

Sam [00:03:19]:
That’s right.

Chris [00:03:20]:
I assumed it was all about chimps, but I watched it since then and then said to Sam, you’ve gotta watch this. This is nuts. That woman that’s always gonna go lips filled in a Yeah.

Sam [00:03:33]:
You and Botox. Freaking

Chris [00:03:35]:
and her eyelashes. Absolutely. Like, where did I mean, she’s more mental than the chimps. Like, what the hell?

Sam [00:03:42]:
And I like four episodes. Four episodes was perfect.

Chris [00:03:46]:
Yeah. Yeah. So it’s only four episodes long. Yeah. Which is great. But, yeah, and every episode pretty much finishes on a bit of a, what the?

Sam [00:03:56]:
Yeah. And they did really well. That guy is pretty good. Yeah. It it’s good. So you have tracked that down. It’s an HBO documentary, so you’ll just have to find it somewhere.

Chris [00:04:10]:
Yes. Yes. So that was cool. I guess we should shout out to to con congratulations to Liam.

Sam [00:04:16]:
I just want to state that I put this on here, Liam, because I probably saw it before Chris.

Chris [00:04:23]:
No. I think I saw it first. I just didn’t think of putting it on

Sam [00:04:26]:
here. I I saw it the day it was posted and forgot about it. So Yeah.

Chris [00:04:30]:
Yeah. Yeah.

Sam [00:04:31]:
No. Shout out, due September. A new baby

Chris [00:04:35]:
for the,

Sam [00:04:36]:
for the Hanlon family.

Chris [00:04:38]:
Yeah. So congrats.

Sam [00:04:40]:
If you’re thinking of naming it Chris Don’t don’t be

Chris [00:04:44]:
doing that.

Sam [00:04:44]:
Don’t don’t don’t do that.

Chris [00:04:45]:
Don’t don’t don’t name it Chris. Oh. I’d rather you name it Sam than Chris, to be honest. Yeah.

Sam [00:04:52]:
I know what I’ve been doing this week as well. Oh, I don’t know where they are. I’ve been finding little tiny ducks everywhere in the house, and it’s slowly driving me crazy.

Chris [00:05:02]:
What? Live ones?

Sam [00:05:04]:
No. Oh, thank

Chris [00:05:05]:
god for that. Little I was I was worried that little ducklings have been, you know, been hatching in your, backyard swimming around in your swimming pool and then coming into your house.

Sam [00:05:16]:
No. No. Little plastic ducks. They’re, like, one centimeter tall. Sarah’s been hiding them everywhere. They’re numbered.

Chris [00:05:23]:
And Why?

Sam [00:05:25]:
Because it’s fun. I I found a

Chris [00:05:29]:
It’s like Easters, but except without the eggs. Yeah.

Sam [00:05:32]:
Yeah. It’s good. It took me a couple of days to realize that there was heaps of them because I saw one, and I didn’t really pay attention to it. And then I found another one in the fridge, and then I looked at it, and I realized it had a number on it. And I was, oh, no. This is that thing I’ve seen.

Chris [00:05:45]:
Say one of 85 or something.

Sam [00:05:47]:
It just says number. So I’ve found 85 of them. I think there’s a hundred, but I don’t know.

Chris [00:05:53]:
Holy crap.

Sam [00:05:54]:
Now she hasn’t written down where she hid them, so she probably won’t be able to remember either. So it’s

Chris [00:05:59]:
A hundred.

Sam [00:06:01]:
You can book her. You can buy them from, AliExpress, in bulk, and I’ve got some other bulk little animals coming to hide in response. The ducks work really

Chris [00:06:12]:
I hope you got chimps.

Sam [00:06:14]:
No. The the the ducks work quite well because these are, like, translucent, and they up against the wooden, Lockwood wood

Chris [00:06:22]:
Oh, I

Sam [00:06:22]:
get it. Yeah. Hard to see. So, anyway, look forward to that. I’m not even sure if all hundred were hidden. Nobody really knows.

Chris [00:06:32]:
Last week, we talked about, snail laying an egg.

Sam [00:06:35]:
So this week Exciting stuff.

Chris [00:06:37]:
This week, I learned about milking snails. So I thought that was hilarious.

Sam [00:06:41]:
What? Because it, they about?

Chris [00:06:43]:
The headline was, we sometimes milk 3,000 snails a day, the dying art of milking mollusks. So I I’ve got a link to the we’ll put the link in the show notes. But basically and I’m like, I know about this because I read this really good book called Aztec named Aztec by Gary Jen Jennings. It’s the only book he’s ever written. It’s a beast of a book. It’s like Shogun, if you’ve ever read Shogun, but it’s based in Aztec times.

Sam [00:07:13]:
Oh, okay.

Chris [00:07:13]:
Fantastic book. Yeah. And it talks about this stuff. So in, that part of the world, you know, Mexico now, they have these, little snails. Now they call them snails, and I’m sure in Spanish, they have the same name for snails as they do for shellfish because it’s a little bit more like a a power or a

Sam [00:07:36]:
it does say mollusk.

Chris [00:07:38]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But snails are technically a mollusk as well.

Sam [00:07:42]:
Yeah. No. No. But yeah. Sorry. The pictures do look like some sort of

Chris [00:07:45]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Shellfish. So, basically, what they do is they, they find them about half a meter above the water level at the low low tide in on the on the rocks. Very much like or, you know, I used to go power diving when I was a kid. Yeah. You’ve gotta, like, get them on the first go.

Chris [00:08:06]:
You know, lift them off and turn them straight away. Otherwise, they stick, and you’re not gonna get them off at all. So the they’re a bit like that. I have to put the snail up decisively, tipping it sideways. If you hesitate, it clings even more tightly. After detaching a last large female snail from the rock, he presses on its foot with a finger. The snail first excretes a small amount of urine, which he tips aside.

Sam [00:08:29]:
You don’t want that?

Chris [00:08:30]:
Only then yeah. No. I want that. Only then does it secrete a few drops of a milky substance, the actual ink. This contains neurotoxins, which the pupura snail uses to paralyze smaller snails and other marine invertebrates, which it then eats. That substance is harmless to humans.

Sam [00:08:47]:
Oh, good.

Chris [00:08:48]:
Rafael lets the ink seep into a bundle of cotton thread wrapped around his left hand and then puts the snail back into a protected place so that it can reattach itself to the rocks. After a few minutes, the snail secretion reacts with the oxygen in the air, and the yarn turns yellow. And a little later, it turns green. But when the sun’s UV light, reacts to it, it achieves a brilliant violet color, which lies somewhere between lavender and amethyst. And, apparently, it doesn’t, fade. So it’s one of the first purple dyes that ever came about that doesn’t fade. So yeah.

Sam [00:09:26]:
What a what a random find for the people that have been doing this for

Chris [00:09:31]:
Fifteen hundred years.

Sam [00:09:32]:
Fifteen hundred years. It says here the decline, happened in the nineteen eighties when Japan found it and started getting started paying people to grab them and do it, so they could color their fine kimonos.

Chris [00:09:47]:
Yeah. But then they but the the guys that do it that live there, and now I think it’s a protected activity, they put them back in the rocks like I just read. Other people were just throwing them back in the sea, and they were dying. Like, they’re just taking them to deep sea or leaving them on the ground where the birds had eaten them. And it’s just like, dude, what are you doing? Because they’re they’re very rare. These mollusks only found in this one little area. And, yeah.

Sam [00:10:15]:
3,000 a day is so many. When you think about going, then coloring your dye

Chris [00:10:22]:
Yeah. And splashing that urine away. And

Sam [00:10:25]:
Yeah. That’s right. Gotta get rid of that. Recently, last weekend, I went to the Tamahiri, markets. It was very foggy.

Chris [00:10:33]:
Speaking at you. Right? I mean, sorry.

Sam [00:10:34]:
No. No. I just no. Not at all. But, Ben was there from, Unbound, Quentin’s Yep. Company. We met him at the new office party a while back, and he was there with his three d printed stuff. Remember talking to him about that?

Chris [00:10:52]:
Yes.

Sam [00:10:52]:
And, I said to him, what’s your number one seller? And he had this little cute, whale shark thing. And he goes, I don’t know why it’s so popular. I said, because it’s super cute. Because I like it, and it’s different from the dragons that everybody sells. So shout out to Ben. Quentin, I hope you’re looking after him. He said you are keeping him busy, and, he’s loving the work. So

Chris [00:11:12]:
Oh, yeah. And I need to catch up with Quentin and Angela. I need to organize an to get together with them. Talk some business.

Sam [00:11:21]:
Okay. So yeah. Good. Good. Good.

Chris [00:11:23]:
You just reminded me. I just blurt that out when you remind me. That’s all. So did you hear that Harvard had another win? I think this is funny. I just think it’s funny.

Sam [00:11:32]:
Another win? What was their first win?

Chris [00:11:33]:
Well well, their first win was that they took on Trump and, you know, rah rah rah. I don’t know if that’s a thing, but this is a win.

Sam [00:11:40]:
Okay.

Chris [00:11:40]:
So in 1946, Harvard bought this, copy of the Magna Carta from, a school library Oh. For $27.

Sam [00:11:52]:
Okay. Just to just to have, like, a version of it?

Chris [00:11:56]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So they they’ve got it on display or whatever. You know? We got a copy of the, you know, copy. And, they had it wrongly listed as an unofficial copy.

Sam [00:12:06]:
Okay.

Chris [00:12:07]:
It’s been confirmed now as an original

Sam [00:12:11]:
Oh, wow.

Chris [00:12:11]:
From 1300 it was made in 1300. So this the discovery means the document is just one of seven issued in 1300 that still survived.

Sam [00:12:22]:
Do they put a price to it?

Chris [00:12:25]:
No. I haven’t got a price here, I don’t think.

Sam [00:12:28]:
How great of quali how good was the quality for when they brought it for them not to go, this isn’t super old. Like, they must have been just like, this is a great copy. Weird,

Chris [00:12:42]:
Yeah. I don’t know. I don’t know. I mean, I I think it I mean, I assume they bought it. It’s in a frame.

Sam [00:12:50]:
Yeah. True.

Chris [00:12:50]:
And they go, oh, yeah. They just poured tea on it, made it look old. I’m just having a quick look through there. It doesn’t really say anything about no. They haven’t valued it. But I I would imagine it’s, yeah, almost priceless, you’d think. Because, yeah, 12/15 was the signing. No.

Chris [00:13:10]:
12/15 was the king coming in. So

Sam [00:13:13]:
yeah. Okay.

Chris [00:13:14]:
That’s that’s old. Old as shit.

Sam [00:13:17]:
So There’s a, story that came out this week, and I mentioned it to someone at work because they told me a story about a relative of theirs or somebody they knew who was having trouble with their eyesight, and, they went and got tested. And then the doctor said or optometrist or whoever said, actually, you’re blind in one eye. Your second eye is starting to go blind, but it’s compensated, and you didn’t realize. And, basically, it’s from, this toxo

Chris [00:13:48]:
Is that reversible?

Sam [00:13:49]:
No. Gone. Now this is toxoplasmosis, which I, myself, call cat cat aids. So if anyone’s ever sick at work, I just say it’s cat aids. Anyway, that’s a different story, but they’ve come out and they reckon that up to forty thousand New Zealanders are affected by ocular toxoplasmosis with ten thousand experiencing serious vision loss and sometimes permanent. And it’s from cats, usually. Oh. Yeah.

Sam [00:14:21]:
So it’s pretty scary because Sarah’s auntie got a a scratch from one of her cats and was in hospital for, like, nine months as they tried to save her foot or her toes, her foot, and her leg, but they all gone. Now she’s all good. So this stuff reproduces

Chris [00:14:35]:
So what what what they amputated?

Sam [00:14:37]:
Yep. Oh, shit. Happening all the time, and people are just like, oh, look at my cat. And it’s like at any moment now, this thing could scratch you or whatever, bite you, and, you could be blindness

Chris [00:14:47]:
I I got I got sick from the cat once, so I got a scratch.

Sam [00:14:50]:
Oh, that explains

Chris [00:14:51]:
a lot. Yeah. No. Yeah. Because, John said, you know, it’s cat scratch cat scratch fever. It’s a thing.

Sam [00:15:01]:
Like, it’s a

Chris [00:15:01]:
song, but it’s a thing. Or it used to be considered a thing.

Sam [00:15:07]:
So this this toxoplasmosis, reproduces in cat guts spread through their feces, survives in soil and freshwater for up to two years, and seawater for six months, which increases the risk to humans. So you could just catch it and not really know, I guess. It’s not a notifiable disease. It just sounds terrible.

Chris [00:15:30]:
So if you’ve got a hypochondriac in the family, get them to listen to this episode because why not? It’ll be fun.

Sam [00:15:37]:
One study hang on. Wait for it. Here we go. One study in the Waikato found a forty three percent infection rate, significantly higher than the global average of up to one in three people. I don’t know, but, just be careful out there. And if you feel weird, go to the doctor.

Chris [00:15:57]:
Oh, god. If I went to the doctor every time I felt weird, mate.

Sam [00:16:03]:
You’d be in a much better space. You’d be much better.

Chris [00:16:09]:
I was gonna tell you, this made me feel so

Sam [00:16:12]:
old. Everything makes you feel old. Go with it.

Chris [00:16:15]:
That’s true. That’s true. But so the these tourists in China, they’ve they’ve come up with this thing. It’s quite common for them now.

Sam [00:16:26]:
Okay.

Chris [00:16:27]:
And instead of carrying their phones around and doing all this stuff where they have to, you know, do selfies or ask somebody to take a photo, they all just go to these tourist spots, and then they wave at the CCTV, note note the number, scan or scan it because most of the surveillance things because there’s surveillance cameras everywhere in China.

Sam [00:16:50]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:16:50]:
And then they just screenshot it. So all their all their holiday pics are from from surveillance camera. And I’m just thinking, when I was traveling, we didn’t even have phones.

Sam [00:17:03]:
Is this real?

Chris [00:17:04]:
There was no email. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There’s a link there, under the travel thing. So tourists in China post for CCTV cameras to snap surveillance souvenir photos, and there’s a few photos of them at different different people at different places. But one one woman sort of thought it was a good idea, and then it and then put it on, I guess, TikTok or their version of it, and everybody started to do it. That’s that’s the thing.

Sam [00:17:29]:
The interesting thing is that some of them are like, it’s fun, but, like, even the resolution’s not that great. It doesn’t matter.

Chris [00:17:36]:
Like Yeah. It’s it’s more a fad than anything else, I think.

Sam [00:17:40]:
Okay.

Chris [00:17:41]:
And speaking of TikTok, have you heard of their new meditation, feature?

Sam [00:17:46]:
I don’t know. Anyway, what what what’s the meditation

Chris [00:17:49]:
in in, response to, you know, the the people, you know, criticizing them about the app’s effects on children. So if you’re under the age of 18 and you, start and you’re scrolling TikTok during sleep hours, I don’t know what sleep hours are, it starts coming up with this, this warning and this, it leads you through a a meditation, feature aimed at improving sleep quality. And then if you if you get rid of it, it’ll come back out after a while. I think it’s pretty lame, to be honest.

Sam [00:18:26]:
It’s it’s sounds lame.

Chris [00:18:28]:
Yeah. I I can’t imagine it really working very well, and I I yeah. I just oh, I don’t know. I I don’t know what the answer is, though. At the same time, I don’t know that there’s anything you can do, except, you know, take the phones off teenagers if you got them at home. They shouldn’t be taking their phones to bed.

Sam [00:18:49]:
Yeah. This person at Waste Management in Lower Hutt, a team leader, has just got into trouble. They were letting somebody dump their rubbish in exchange for some Beersies, boxes of them. The comp they they because dumping rubbish

Chris [00:19:06]:
sure that was standard back

Speaker A [00:19:09]:
in

Chris [00:19:09]:
the day. I am pretty sure we did that. Dad dad I’m pretty sure dad paid the landfill, gave the guys a dozen bid just to pull we because dad used to go to the landfill with some rubbish and come back with more stuff than he left with.

Sam [00:19:26]:
Yeah. Yeah. I I can imagine that. So, yeah, basically, they noticed that the employee, was was there on the weekends when they weren’t scheduled to work, and they found somebody, like, removing scrap metal, dumping rubbish without paying, dumping their own personal rubbish, and then, a customer unloading boxes into this person’s car, which is later identified as beer, they reckon they’ve lost out on a hundred and $11,000. Dumping waste is very expensive, and it goes up, quite a bit. So, yeah. They’re trying to, get well, the ERA, Employment Relations Authority have told this person they’ve gotta pay you back $4,000 to waste management and $2,000 to the crown, which is a little bit less than a hundred thousand dollars that, waste management wanted.

Chris [00:20:19]:
Yeah. I’ve that hundred thousand does sound a little shady. Although, yeah, it probably is. Probably.

Sam [00:20:26]:
But this, they went to the ERA for a personal grievance because they got fired for the shadiness that they were doing. Like, that’s how it got to court.

Chris [00:20:35]:
Oh, so they got fired, and then they took them to court because they got fired.

Sam [00:20:40]:
Yeah. She denied the evidence and took them for unfair dismissal, and then they said, no. You pay 6,000. And then waste management was like, no. We want a hundred thousand. They’re like, no. So

Chris [00:20:52]:
Yeah. Okay.

Sam [00:20:53]:
Not the sharp not the sharpest people are out there.

Chris [00:20:57]:
I’ve got a I got a a bit more of a a bigger, grander story. Russia and China have signed a deal to build a nuclear power plant on the moon.

Sam [00:21:10]:
So that there’s power on the moon for when they need it at some point?

Chris [00:21:14]:
So a Russian reactor will power what has been dubbed the International Lunar Research Station, I I ILRS. Okay. An initiative jointly led by both countries and expected to be completed by 2036. The announcement follows the revelation that due to NASA’s twenty twenty six budget, US plans for a lunar research station have been scrapped. So The US NASA’s decided not to go to the moon. They were gonna do a lunar station. They’re like, oh, no. We don’t have the money.

Chris [00:21:42]:
No. So China and Russia are going instead.

Sam [00:21:45]:
Good.

Chris [00:21:46]:
NASA is China’s my main rival for lunar exploration as its Artemis three program is set to launch astronauts to the moon once again sometime in 2027. So they reckon that the research station will be autonomous without any human assistance.

Sam [00:22:06]:
So it’s the Okay. Robot Okay.

Chris [00:22:08]:
Which makes sense.

Sam [00:22:10]:
That’s good.

Chris [00:22:11]:
And and so, you know, Chernobyl won’t happen on the moon because there won’t be anybody to up there to screw it up. And if it does screw up, nobody will notice.

Sam [00:22:21]:
I think the the latest version of nuclear power plants are so small and so powerful and so safe. Yeah. I think I

Chris [00:22:29]:
Yeah. Although it will be interesting because the physics of something working on Earth and the physics of it working in a low gravity environment, I’d I don’t know how I mean, I don’t know. I’m not a physicist. I don’t know. But you’d think there is some differences and some things they might not have thought of. But yeah.

Sam [00:22:46]:
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that’s okay if they’re using robots and stuff. Let’s see if this actually comes to fruition.

Chris [00:22:51]:
Yeah. Yeah. It’s been work the this project’s been they’ve been working on it since 2021.

Sam [00:22:57]:
Okay. So,

Chris [00:23:00]:
yeah. And they’ve they’ve been they’re working on a program towards getting, like, heavy rocketry payloads, between 2030 and 2035. That’s the plan. So that I when China says they’re doing something like that, I believe them because they tend to be long term thinkers, and they tend to budget for that sort of thing. If it was The States, you’re like, yeah. That’s your budget this term.

Sam [00:23:26]:
Yeah. True. And

Chris [00:23:27]:
in three or four years’ time, that’ll change again. In three and four years’ time, that’ll change again. In three or four years, whereas China does seem to do the long term thing better. So I don’t know. As far as Russia’s input into it, I think they’re just giving them plans for the reactor because who knows if Russia will still be around by then. God.

Sam [00:23:47]:
Yeah. It’s, they maybe they’ll just combine and have some big mega country.

Chris [00:23:51]:
Well, there is that. China might take over Russia. You never know.

Sam [00:23:54]:
And then they too can have a government sponsored TV reality show or whatever it is.

Chris [00:24:01]:
God.

Sam [00:24:02]:
I thought it was a joke when I first read it, and then,

Chris [00:24:05]:
I I I I I don’t wanna tell you what I thought when I first read it.

Sam [00:24:09]:
What’d you think?

Chris [00:24:11]:
So it says where is it? I’ve got it here somewhere. Oh, there it is. DHS is exploring reality TV show where migrants compete for citizenship. And I’m liking, why is a package delivery service

Sam [00:24:24]:
Oh, right.

Chris [00:24:25]:
Wanting to do the TV reality show. Like, it I didn’t click it. It was the department of,

Sam [00:24:30]:
Homeland security.

Chris [00:24:31]:
Homeland security. That’s what it is.

Sam [00:24:32]:
I didn’t know what that was till just that moment I said it. I did not think it was anything to do with the courier company. But, yeah, they just I don’t know. It’s crazy.

Chris [00:24:45]:
So for those that are listening, so, the Department of Homeland Security is reviewing a pitch for a reality TV show in which immigrants compete for the chance to fast track their path to US citizenship. I saw an interview online with, the Canadian, executive producer of this or producer of this who’s pitching it. And he’s like, he Gormless is a little strong, but but but I’ll stand by it. And he was like, oh, Yeah. What we’ll do is every state will do a thing in, a challenge in California where they have to pan for gold and a challenge in What? Whatever that they have to do this and a you know, different different states, different things. He obviously has never lived in The States because he doesn’t know anything. But it’s so that’s such a Trumpian thing to do. Let’s turn the government into a thief.

Sam [00:25:47]:
It’s slowly turning into the running man movie.

Chris [00:25:50]:
Oh, it really is. Because Yeah. There’s just too bad. Cabinet is off TV.

Sam [00:25:55]:
It’s mental.

Chris [00:25:56]:
Meme at Oz, doctor doctor Turofoff.

Sam [00:25:58]:
Jesus. Not that idiot.

Chris [00:25:59]:
Freaking, you know, Sean Duffy, the other one, Pete Hegseth. They’re all off to TV. They’re all, they were on Fox News and stuff. So I don’t know. It’s that’s how they rest.

Sam [00:26:15]:
What’s the deal with all these guys that escaped from a jail?

Chris [00:26:20]:
I I I thought it was funny just because if you’re gonna escape from a jail, what we what’s the most important part of escaping for a jail for you?

Sam [00:26:31]:
Not getting caught again.

Chris [00:26:33]:
It’s not take to, right scrolling on the the wall, a and a photo a picture of a cartoonish picture of a guard looking stupid and riding underneath it too easy and then taking a photo of your escape route and before you leave so that you can post it after you’ve escaped.

Sam [00:26:53]:
Did they do that?

Chris [00:26:54]:
Yes. Go to the link, and there’s a photo there. And it was apparently what they sent afterwards. If I’m if I’m reading this right, and I only flick through it. So maybe I’m not. But

Sam [00:27:08]:
Oh, wow.

Chris [00:27:09]:
Yeah. Too easy, LOL, is what they wrote there with only one o in the two. So, you know, it’s genuine.

Sam [00:27:16]:
I saw the video of them, like, running across a freeway.

Chris [00:27:19]:
Oh, really?

Sam [00:27:20]:
They they they jumped off, like, like, where, like, when you get out of the prison, it was like a loading ramp or something, and then they, like, gapped it all across, like, the freeway. I don’t know if that’s still out there. I don’t know who anyone’s made it.

Chris [00:27:32]:
Oh, I I couldn’t imagine. So 10 of them escaped from a jail. And it’s only, like, a sheriff’s jail or something. It’s not like a

Sam [00:27:39]:
For a prison. It’s not like a full blown one.

Chris [00:27:41]:
Yeah. No. It’s like a holding cell or something.

Sam [00:27:44]:
Oh, oh, okay.

Chris [00:27:46]:
But, yeah, the the fact that they just did the photo and did the freaking, graffiti and too easy lol, it’s just, like, hilarious. I mean, you know, if you’re gonna if you’re gonna break the law, do it with some style, man. Do it with some style.

Sam [00:28:02]:
Yep. And if you wanna do it with style and you wanna learn more, go to the ChrisandSampodcast.com, because this is the end of this episode.

Chris [00:28:11]:
Okay.

Sam [00:28:14]:
I can’t tell if Chris is disappointed there or

Chris [00:28:18]:
No. It’s cool. I was gonna mention, did you hear about the new double o seven?

Sam [00:28:23]:
No. Who’s that?

Chris [00:28:24]:
Henry Cavill.

Sam [00:28:26]:
Has he

Chris [00:28:26]:
been landed the new James Bond. But what got me about it is that he actually was in the running for it twenty years ago when Daniel Craig got it. And I was like, but I thought Henry, Henry Cavill was way younger. I suppose he is a bit younger than Daniel Craig, but, yeah, I I didn’t think he was in the running twenty years ago, but he apparently was. But yep.

Sam [00:28:53]:
Okay. I don’t know where they were gonna go. They had trouble I don’t know. There’s a whole bunch going on. They had trouble with who they wanted and who they didn’t want. They’ve I think, Amazon is now the main owner of the Bond

Chris [00:29:07]:
Franchise. Yeah.

Sam [00:29:08]:
Franchise, but, what Broccoli, whatever her name is, has final say, I’m not really sure.

Chris [00:29:14]:
Yeah. I I think Henry Cavill will be great.

Sam [00:29:16]:
Yeah. It should be good.

Chris [00:29:17]:
I mean, I I was I was happily in, Camp Idris Elba.

Sam [00:29:22]:
Yeah. Yeah.

Chris [00:29:23]:
Never went down. But, so but I think Henry Cavill will be great. He he’s so good in, The Witcher and all those other things. He’s he’s

Sam [00:29:31]:
Mission Impossible?

Chris [00:29:32]:
He’s class. Yeah.

Sam [00:29:34]:
And just some good fight scenes there.

Chris [00:29:36]:
Oh, %. So So yeah.

Sam [00:29:38]:
Yeah. Let us know, what you think about double o seven and if he’s your new James Bond or, who you prefer. Until next time. I’m Sam.

Chris [00:29:47]:
I’m Chris.

Sam [00:29:48]:
See you.

Chris [00:29:48]:
Bye