Summary
We dive into a wild story where a pothole actually saves a life, plus talk about cutting-edge cancer treatment for dogs, scams involving counterfeit cash, and how an app helps volunteers assist blind people across the world. There’s plenty of tech, laughs, and unbelievable news peppered throughout.
Links
Be My Eyes App
Hit Pothole Brought Woman Back to Life
Man Saves Dog with Science
May pays bond with Fake Money
Show Transcript
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Sam [00:00:08]:
Hello and welcome to episode 572 of the Chris and Sam Podcast.
Chris [00:00:26]:
I’m Chris.
Sam [00:00:27]:
And I’m Sam. Welcome along to your weekly fix of random technology and life. And we are very close, some would say, to 600 episodes. So, uh, many people are saying, many people are saying, I know, I think we’re supposed to be doing something else right now, but we’ll get there in the end. Uh, we will get, uh, voice notes from some of you lovely listeners. I will say, uh, shout out to everybody on TikTok that liked Chris’s $10 vacuum cleaner video. It almost got 900 views and a few comments and likes.
Chris [00:00:59]:
Uh, yeah. And I got a bit of crap from people at work. I had to explain what it was all about.
Sam [00:01:03]:
They, they said they were going to do that. Uh, Quentin has started following us on TikTok and I did see him at Cream Eatery the other day. Uh, someone within my job asked me, asked to take me out for a coffee to ask me a question. Which was a bit random, but it could have just been a Teams message, but I got a free coffee.
Chris [00:01:26]:
And that’s the main thing. That’s way better than a Teams message. I think they have, they would have to buy you a coffee if they put you on Teams because Teams is the biggest piece of crap. Although we’ve just been talking about how Zoom’s changed stuff without letting me know, which is annoying. I know. I still, I still put Zoom way ahead of Teams.
Sam [00:01:46]:
I live and breathe Teams because that’s what we use at work. Quentin said hi, and then this person goes, how do you know him? Did you work with him? I was like, what? No, I just know him. I didn’t want— I—
Chris [00:01:57]:
it’s probably one of those people that only know people they work with.
Sam [00:02:02]:
It’s a very—
Chris [00:02:03]:
many of those people out there.
Sam [00:02:04]:
It’s a very young person, and I didn’t want to drop the podcast knowledge on that person in case they stalk me, to be honest. We’re doing this remotely right now because we’re busy. I’ve been tired. I was getting better this week and then I felt average again and now I’m still tired. I would ask you this question in person or via Zoom. What is going on with your forehead?
Chris [00:02:28]:
Oh yeah, I’ve got a, I’ve got a, I don’t know what you call it. Like it’s, it’s like a scar thing.
Sam [00:02:35]:
Oh, scar thing.
Chris [00:02:36]:
Like a wart. It’s the problem is I kept picking at it. So I put some cream on and it turns out that whatever cream I put on, I’m pretty allergic to. So I got this White dot surrounded by a red, red edge.
Sam [00:02:49]:
Okay, it looks terrible.
Chris [00:02:51]:
I did think about putting makeup on for this, but I was like, nah, it’s just Sam, he’ll never mention it. Uh, thanks, man.
Sam [00:02:57]:
It’s very noticeable.
Chris [00:02:59]:
I know it’s noticeable. I literally did have to put some makeup on it, um, when I was doing some filming the other day because of it.
Sam [00:03:07]:
Oh, because it’s quite—
Chris [00:03:08]:
it’s been like this for like 3 days.
Sam [00:03:09]:
Okay.
Chris [00:03:10]:
Um, when I say makeup, people are going, oh, Chris has makeup. Yeah, no, it’s zombie makeup, but I mean, If you mix it right, it’s not too bad. I have a bruise wheel.
Sam [00:03:22]:
You have a little toolbox full of makeup. Yeah.
Chris [00:03:26]:
Yeah. Hey, speaking of makeup, you can’t tell, but I have a little bit of a goatee going on here. Got a little bit of a goatee. It’s still very minor. Okay. That’s because I’m going away this weekend.
Sam [00:03:41]:
Yeah, and you want to think— you want to detract?
Chris [00:03:42]:
I think I’m going away.
Sam [00:03:43]:
Do you want to distract from your forehead?
Chris [00:03:47]:
No. Well, yeah, there is that. Although, yeah, I might have a— yeah, I’ll put a bandana on my forehead.
Sam [00:03:52]:
Yeah, yeah, that looks completely normal. Yep.
Chris [00:03:55]:
Uh, well, it will for this because— okay, um, I’m going to, to, to Jeff’s, um, Ratty’s, um, 50th.
Sam [00:04:01]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:04:02]:
And in Whangamata. And you know how organized I am, you know, as I always am. I went, oh yeah, it was— well, Oh, let’s check this invite out. Oh, it’s a fancy dress.
Sam [00:04:13]:
Oh, that would have been so funny if you turned up with nothing.
Chris [00:04:17]:
It would have been so, you could have been like, I bet you there’d be loads of other people that won’t even know anyway. But the thing is, it’s like, you’ve got to pick a movie character from a movie that came out on the year of your birth.
Sam [00:04:34]:
Okay. So what are your options? Hang on, what’s your year of birth? Because I’m going to look at this and I’m going to, I’m going to give you alternative options.
Chris [00:04:40]:
I’m not telling you what my year of birth is. Um, well, I’m not telling everybody movies that came out in 19— yeah, I, I’m not telling everybody what my, my year of birth is. It’s in the chat. It’s already in the chat. So, um, I— well, this is probably going to give it away anyway, but, um, yeah, so I, I decided to go with because I’m using a cane, I decided to go with Zatoichi’s sword cane, cane sword. I think it’s the movie’s called Zatoichi’s Cane Sword or Sword Cane. But if you go to Tubi, you can see the series. So obviously the movie was based on a series.
Chris [00:05:21]:
So I watched the first episode of it. It was pretty cool, actually. It’s black and white and it’s in Japanese, but—
Sam [00:05:28]:
And no one’s ever heard of it. So that’s good.
Chris [00:05:30]:
Well, no, it’s funny. Well, guess who, guess who’s heard of it?
Sam [00:05:33]:
Adam.
Chris [00:05:34]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:05:35]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:05:35]:
I mean, yeah, Adam, I’m like, I have to do this thing. So I’m going as this character Zatoichi and he goes, oh, that’d be great. And I was like, oh, you know who that is?
Sam [00:05:43]:
Of course Adam does. You don’t have to query any movie thing with Adam.
Chris [00:05:47]:
Well, apparently he goes, oh no, they made a remake of that just a few years back or something. I’m like, I’d never heard of it. Anyway, so I’ve got my, my red robe with Bruce Lee on it, which is the closest I’ve got to something like that. My cane that doesn’t look at all like a sword cane, but it’ll do. And he’s blind and he has a bit of a goatee. So hence the goatee. Anyway, Zatoichi.
Sam [00:06:17]:
Okay. I, yep. Good. I just, I just feel you’re going to spend a lot of time explaining that.
Chris [00:06:26]:
I think everybody is, aren’t they? Although I mentioned it to Carl and he, I felt so gutted. He goes, I could go as one of the Star Wars characters. And I was like, what do you, what, what? You were born in the year I went to see Star Wars at the movies. What the hell?
Sam [00:06:42]:
That’s good.
Chris [00:06:44]:
That’s, I feel old anyway.
Sam [00:06:48]:
A long, long time ago, I think we talked about this. I’m not sure. There’s an app called Be My Eyes and you help out blind people around the world. I don’t know if that’s something—
Chris [00:06:57]:
I do remember you talking about that, yeah.
Sam [00:06:58]:
Okay. So for some reason it popped into my brain or I saw it, I’m not sure. And I re-downloaded it. I haven’t had it for forever because last time nothing ever happened. So at the moment there’s 10.1 million volunteers and 1 million blind people. And my phone went off the other day and it says, hey, Be My Eyes notification. And I clicked it and nothing happened. I was too slow.
Sam [00:07:20]:
Okay.
Chris [00:07:21]:
All right.
Sam [00:07:21]:
Then the other night it went off again and I got it and it goes, yep, connecting you to a person. The gist of this is if the blind person’s having trouble seeing something, they can activate this app. It connects with someone around the world that speaks the same language. They, you see what’s on their camera live and you can, I think, pause it if you need to read something. or you can turn on their flash on their camera if you need more light. So it starts up and I’m in a black room.
Chris [00:07:51]:
That’s a good point. Cause I would never have thought of that. You need light. They wouldn’t know whether it’s light enough or not.
Sam [00:07:57]:
No, exactly. Yeah, exactly.
Chris [00:08:00]:
I know, I know. It’s so obvious, but I never would have thought of that. Well, yeah.
Sam [00:08:04]:
So I ended up in a dark room. Like I was in a house in the pitch black and all I could see was some lights. There was 4 blue lights, 3 solid, 1 blinking. And I was like, okay. And an American guy goes, hi, can you tell me how many lights my power bank has? I don’t know. And I said, you’ve got 3 solid, 1 blinking. He goes, oh, sweet.
Chris [00:08:26]:
Thanks.
Sam [00:08:27]:
And then hung up. So it was my good deed for the week.
Chris [00:08:29]:
That’s pretty cool. That’s pretty cool. Be My Eyes.
Sam [00:08:34]:
Bit random.
Chris [00:08:36]:
Well, do you feel lucky? Cause I’m going to tell you, I’ve got a couple of stories on luck here.
Sam [00:08:41]:
Okay.
Chris [00:08:42]:
Okay. So first lucky story is, you know, I’ve, you’ve done this. I’ve done this. Most of us have done this at some point in our lives. I am sure.
Sam [00:08:54]:
Okay.
Chris [00:08:55]:
We have gone over a pothole and cursed the pothole. We’ve gone, God damn it.
Sam [00:09:00]:
There’s, oh, there’s a really bad one. Where is it? Uh, Cobbam Drive, I think at the moment is chaos. That’s pretty bad. Yep. Okay.
Chris [00:09:09]:
Okay. So this story from India, of course, because India, um, and, and potholes on Indian roads are pretty common. They’re riddled with them. They’re a major source of accidents and deaths. However, a woman in Uttar Pradesh, I probably spelled that, uh, pronounced that wrong, got her life back because of a pothole. So what? Vanita Shukla was declared brain dead and discharged from a hospital. Doctors gave her next to no chance of living, so they were taking her home to die.
Sam [00:09:43]:
Okay.
Chris [00:09:43]:
And the ambulance hit a pothole that shook the entire vehicle. The violent jerk proved to be a lifesaver for Vanita, who woke up suddenly from the shock. And she’s— that her husband had been told that he needs to prepare his family for the last rites. Since she was not breathing and her heartbeat was sinking. But the encounter with the large pothole proved miraculous and her breathing instantly returned to normal. He immediately told his family to cancel cremation preparations and they went back to the hospital.
Sam [00:10:17]:
I don’t know if I believe this.
Chris [00:10:20]:
I don’t know. It’s in the newspaper, mind you. Like, yeah, it’s in Wai’an actually, which is a pretty It’s a pretty respectable, uh, news internet source, um, for India, to be fair.
Sam [00:10:39]:
Okay.
Chris [00:10:39]:
Um, because there are some crappy ones, but that’s one of the— but you’re right to be, um, somewhat, um—
Sam [00:10:45]:
I mean, good on them if that’s what happened, because man, imagine that, like, no, no potholes.
Chris [00:10:51]:
I actually, I, I believe it. I mean, I don’t think you should use that as a diagnosis or prescription to do something. You shouldn’t try and replicate that. But, um, but I can believe that. Um, I, uh, this is the other lucky one, and I just think this is the luckiest dog in the world, right?
Sam [00:11:12]:
Okay.
Chris [00:11:13]:
So you got a rescue dog. Paul Conyon, um, is a— what’s his name? Conningham. Conningham. Paul Conningham adopted Rosie, a Steffi Charpay mix.
Sam [00:11:26]:
Okay.
Chris [00:11:27]:
From a Sydney shelter in 2019. So that’s pretty lucky to start with, I guess.
Sam [00:11:32]:
Yep. Yep.
Chris [00:11:32]:
But it’s lucky for her because he was the person that adopted her because in 2024, she was diagnosed with a deadly mast cell cancer.
Sam [00:11:42]:
Oh, okay.
Chris [00:11:43]:
Chemo. He, he paid for chemo and surgery, which slowed it down, but they said it’s not going to stop it. There’s nothing you can do. So Cunningham is a data engineer with 17 years in machine learning. And he goes, nope, not having this. I like my little Shar-Pei. I like Rosie. So this is an amazing story.
Chris [00:12:05]:
Basically what he did, he used ChatGPT to say, how can I fix this dog? And just so to say upfront, he ended up spending tens of thousands of dollars on this.
Sam [00:12:19]:
Oh, okay. So yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chris [00:12:21]:
Right. So ChatGPT suggested immunotherapy and pointed him to the UNSW Ramaciotta Centre for Genomics. So he paid $3,000 to sequence Rosie’s DNA. So he sent Rosie’s DNA, then ran it through data pipelines to identify the exact tumour mutations. He used Google’s DeepMind AlphaFold to map the mutated proteins and match them to potential drug targets. Oh, well, when his first drug option was rejected by the manufacturer, he pivoted and asked the researchers about mRNA vaccines instead. The UNSW’s RNA Institute used his half-page formula that he’d put together to synthesize a custom mRNA RNA vaccine for Rosie. He drove 10 hours for Rosie’s first injection in December.
Chris [00:13:21]:
The tennis-ball-sized tumour on Rosie’s leg has shrunk by half, and she’s chasing rabbits again.
Sam [00:13:27]:
What?
Chris [00:13:28]:
Leading scientists call it stunning. One UNSW professor asked, “If we can do this for a dog, why aren’t we rolling it out to humans with cancer?” Well, I can tell you why, because you wouldn’t be allowed to test it on them. You can test it on a dog. Yeah, true.
Sam [00:13:43]:
But this must be opening up lines of—
Chris [00:13:45]:
This is pretty cool. Yeah, so then in the story it says why it matters. Rosie’s story is a proof of concept for something much bigger. A non-biologist used a stack of AI tools to do in months what would have taken a research team years. And the tools he used aren’t obscure. They’re like not random tools. mRNA technology, the same platform behind the COVID vaccine, is already being tested in human cancer trials. So it’s already being tested there.
Chris [00:14:13]:
Rosie’s case is now directly informing that research at UNSW. It’s not yet mainstream medicine, but research says it’s not far off. AlphaFold, which is Google’s DeepMind’s protein structure AI, was central to the whole process, and it’s quietly becoming one of the most important scientific tools on the planet, showing up across cancer research and all sorts of drug discovery research and all that. And most people haven’t heard of it. I’ve heard of it. I think we’ve talked about something about that maybe in the past.
Sam [00:14:43]:
Yeah, maybe.
Chris [00:14:44]:
But anyway, Cunningham’s work is being called an example of citizen science by UNSW researchers. The idea that someone outside the lab armed with the right AI tools can meaningfully contribute to cutting-edge medical research is new, and Rosie is the first dog to ever receive a fully personalized mRNA cancer vaccine.
Sam [00:15:06]:
Whoa.
Chris [00:15:07]:
So That is one lucky dog. Because if I had a dog, even if I had some of those skills and they said it’s going to cost you thousands of dollars, I’m like, sorry, Rosie. Sorry. Yeah.
Sam [00:15:22]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:15:22]:
Yeah. Yeah. I know that sounds bad, but—
Sam [00:15:25]:
Got to take you to the farm.
Chris [00:15:26]:
Yes. Yes. I’ve got a question for you. Who would you rather vote for? If you had to vote between these two people— Okay.
Sam [00:15:35]:
Give it to me.
Chris [00:15:37]:
Hitler or Zelensky?
Sam [00:15:39]:
Oh, um, Zelensky.
Chris [00:15:42]:
Well, why? Um, I mean, okay, so this is the small French town is, um, is a mayoral, is a mayoral, uh, reelection, and the, the current mayor is, goes by the name of Hitler. H-I-T-T-L-E-R.
Sam [00:16:01]:
I think we talked about this guy in the past.
Chris [00:16:04]:
Well, his, one of his two opponents is called Zelensky, but it’s spelled Z-I-E-L-I.
Sam [00:16:10]:
Oh, I see. You’re tricking me. You’re tricking me.
Chris [00:16:13]:
Exactly. So Charles Hitler, mayor of, um, Arcis-sur-Aube, however you say that in French.
Sam [00:16:19]:
So who, who is the better one?
Chris [00:16:22]:
Who knows? But I, I, I would say Zelensky’s got the better chance just because his name—
Sam [00:16:28]:
On the namesake, namesake.
Chris [00:16:29]:
On the name basis. I mean, you know, so French social media has been inundated with humorous posts about the battle between the late German dictator Adolf Hitler and Ukraine’s modern-day hero, Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
Sam [00:16:43]:
And top-quality podcast hosts are talking about it.
Chris [00:16:46]:
Yes, around the world. But yeah, anyway, Charles Hitler leads the center-right list, and Zelenskyy’s— his Zelenskyy opponent is the far-right Patriot Movement. So maybe they’re opposite. I don’t know. But anyway.
Sam [00:17:02]:
Um, so do you think at any point they decided to change their names or they’re like, no, people know it. It’s easy for marketing, not good marketing, but marketing.
Chris [00:17:12]:
Yeah. I mean, Charles Hitler. I mean, I guess I suppose if you’re spelling it with two Ts, you’re like, yeah, okay, I can get away with it. And I’m in France, although the French probably didn’t like the Germans that much or like Hitler that much, to be fair. Yeah. I mean. He absolutely would never have a son with the first name beginning with A. You would never—
Sam [00:17:36]:
No.
Chris [00:17:36]:
Call your son Alan Hitler or something like that. Oh God, that’d be terrible. Anyway, I thought that was— I thought that would be interesting. Do you want me to keep going? I’ve got plenty.
Sam [00:17:46]:
I’ve got— Yeah, I’m pretty light this week because of, uh, Braindead.
Chris [00:17:51]:
Yep.
Sam [00:17:51]:
Yep.
Chris [00:17:52]:
That’s fine. I like this one. Um, So this guy, what do you call it? I think, is he convicted? An inmate, oh, an inmate in the Chesterfield County Detention Center has been charged because he said to the judge, he went to pay for his bond, bond out of jail, and he paid the judge and said, keep the change. And the judge goes, what, and checked and they’re counterfeit bills.
Sam [00:18:27]:
Oh, hang on. So he had—
Chris [00:18:29]:
oh no. I mean, probably— I, I don’t want to know. I don’t know. But I want to say that if he didn’t say keep the change, he might have been good.
Sam [00:18:41]:
Maybe.
Chris [00:18:42]:
Or at least got away with it for a bit. But keep the change— the— so the amount of $250 on a trespassing charge—
Sam [00:18:52]:
oh, it’s not even much money.
Chris [00:18:54]:
He reportedly removed a wad of cash, sorted through the bills, handed the judge 3 $100 bills and said, keep the change. No, like, who does that?
Sam [00:19:03]:
Dumbasses. They’re everywhere.
Chris [00:19:07]:
So, and then there’s a photo of this guy and it’s shady, as shady as you can imagine someone to be. He’s a bearded shady dude. Mind you, all those prison photos look a bit shady, so.
Sam [00:19:20]:
Oh, he looks like a cross between Joe Dirt and Marilyn Manson.
Chris [00:19:24]:
Yeah, like I said, shady.
Sam [00:19:30]:
So he still remains in jail. Good.
Chris [00:19:32]:
Yeah. Yeah. So he is back in jail. He got charged for that.
Sam [00:19:36]:
Oh my gosh.
Chris [00:19:37]:
Have you, have you ever heard of Newt Gingrich? Yeah.
Sam [00:19:40]:
Is he a politician, isn’t he?
Chris [00:19:43]:
Yeah. He’s a US politician.
Sam [00:19:44]:
He’s been around.
Chris [00:19:45]:
Yeah, he’s been around forever.
Sam [00:19:47]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:19:47]:
Yeah. And I don’t know a lot about him, but I know back in the day he was really important, like probably. Bill Clinton’s time or something, like a while back. And, um, and he was like, he would— all the Republicans thought he was the bee’s knees. He was amazing. Newt would do this, Newt would do this.
Sam [00:20:05]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:20:05]:
Okay. And so he’s supposed to be really smart. He must be getting older. I don’t know how old. Maybe it says in here, but he, um, he’s 82. He’s 82. He spoke up at the, um, about this whole Iran plan, Iran war thing.
Sam [00:20:22]:
Yeah. Okay.
Chris [00:20:22]:
And he goes, oh, what we should do to ease gas prices in the US. And I— oh, hang on. Yeah. Instead of fighting over a 21-mile-wide bottleneck forever, we should cut a new channel through friendly territory. A dozen thermonuclear detonations and you’ve got a waterway wider than the Panama Canal and deeper than the Suez. And safe from Iranian attacks.
Sam [00:20:49]:
Good. Just a few bombs here.
Chris [00:20:51]:
Yeah, just a few thermonuclear detonations.
Sam [00:20:54]:
Yeah, thermonuclear. They’re the okay ones.
Chris [00:20:56]:
And he basically showed a map and then posted this thing, but they’re like, what are you doing? And it was, this came from a satirical article published by China Talk. Fiction was presented as a humorous open letter to Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth with the disclaimer that its views do not necessarily represent those of anyone with brain cells. And they even had that disclaimer on it.
Sam [00:21:28]:
Oh my gosh.
Chris [00:21:29]:
And yet, Greg Crouch goes, well, that’s a good idea. I’m going to put it on my—
Sam [00:21:34]:
Makes sense, really.
Chris [00:21:36]:
Post it. Uh, yeah, I just think stupid travels in herds and, you know, Trump is leading one hell of a herd there.
Sam [00:21:46]:
Sure is. Uh, I’m sure he’s doing great. We’ve got maybe upcoming fuel, fuel levels for New Zealand. They’ve got a plan. Uh, Nicola Willis, our crack, uh, crack hotshot.
Chris [00:22:00]:
God, no, hang on, hang on.
Sam [00:22:01]:
I haven’t finished. She’s our crack hotshot, um, finance minister. She knows what’s happening. Uh, she has, uh, instructed— I think it was Inland Revenue and I don’t know, some other government department— to come up with a plan real shortly, um, to help out families and stuff. So I don’t know if something to do with taxes or something, I don’t really know. They said that whatever it is, it’s going to be short, sharp, and like directly needed and won’t be like misspent money like they did in COVID. Remember we all got that COVID money? Do we, you remember that little tax break and they got it, they gave us like 3, 3 lots of something?
Chris [00:22:38]:
Yeah, vaguely. Um, it was cool. Um, yeah, I mean, I’m sure there were people that absolutely needed that.
Sam [00:22:48]:
Oh yeah.
Chris [00:22:50]:
I was, I was busy working a lot through COVID.
Sam [00:22:53]:
So yeah, I know I had a whole year. Me too. I worked right through. I had a different COVID experience.
Chris [00:22:57]:
Yeah, same. So, um, so I, I didn’t even have time to do anything like that. I was stressed to the max. I’ve got another, another random question for you. Cause this one, I wasn’t going to bring this up, but I, you, you’ve got a burning desire to know the answer. Well, yeah. Okay. So this question, would you shoot someone? I don’t know.
Chris [00:23:20]:
I mean, yeah, that’s a loaded question because there’d be all sorts of reasons where you might, but for shits and gigs, no, no. And that’s sort of my point. So they did this survey in the dates. Yeah. And it comes up with this thing. 19 million Americans have seriously thought about shooting someone. This is what the national survey suggests.
Sam [00:23:42]:
Okay.
Chris [00:23:42]:
I say suggests because that’s an extrapolation. They didn’t ask 19 million and 19 million said yes. They asked more survey of more than 7,000 US adults.
Sam [00:23:52]:
Okay.
Chris [00:23:53]:
Right. So this is it in a nutshell. So 7,000 US adults suggest roughly 19.3 million Americans have seriously thought about shooting another person. At some point in their lives, with about 8.5 million reporting that those thoughts were in the, just in the last year. Right.
Sam [00:24:10]:
Okay.
Chris [00:24:12]:
Also from the study, nearly 3 in 10 people who reported these thoughts didn’t own or have access to a gun.
Sam [00:24:18]:
Oh, okay.
Chris [00:24:19]:
Right. So, and, and, and it’s got pointing to the need for prevention strategies that go beyond existing gun owners. Which, yeah, okay. Yeah, fair enough. Men, younger adults, Black Americans, and urban residents were among the groups most likely to report these thoughts, while gun ownership and political affiliation showed no meaningful connection. So I’m younger adults, men, absolutely Black, urban residents, probably Black Americans. I can’t speak to that. I don’t know anything about that culture there.
Chris [00:24:57]:
About 4 million people who had thoughts of shooting someone told another person, a disclosure researchers say could serve as a critical intervention point, especially in states with red flag laws. Yeah. Which is, that’s about the only one piece that I think is interesting because this whole study is about gun, you know, gun control basically, or, you know. Yeah. The problem with guns. The point is we don’t think about shooting people because we don’t have guns.
Sam [00:25:29]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:25:29]:
How many times have you thought, I want to run that person over? A lot more than you’ve thought, I want to shoot someone because I have a car.
Sam [00:25:36]:
I was just thinking that. Yeah, exactly. It depends on what you’ve got at your disposal.
Chris [00:25:40]:
Exactly. So the reason you could do the same study of 7,000 New Zealanders and you’d get a way lower thing because people just don’t know, oh, I can’t get hold of a gun. Maybe they’d say I’d stabbed someone because I can get hold of a knife. There’s lots of knives around, right? Like kitchen knife or something. But the point I’m trying to make is you want to reduce gun deaths, get rid of the guns. That’s the thing. That’s what you have to do. Uh, yeah.
Chris [00:26:10]:
Anyway, that was my little rant about that. I mean, there’s a whole, whole big thing about it, but I’ll I’m just going to ignore that.
Sam [00:26:18]:
Okay, well, that brings us to the end of this podcast. Thank you so much for hanging out with us for this 30 minutes of whenever you’re listening to this in the future, as soon as it comes out. I’m making clips that go on TikTok and Reels all over the place. So if you’ve seen one of them, hello.
Chris [00:26:33]:
And wherever you are in the world, and do interact with those things and let us know where you’re listening to us from, whether you’re on TikTok or whatever.
Sam [00:26:41]:
Did you just say Tic Tac Talk?
Chris [00:26:45]:
I almost did.
Sam [00:26:46]:
Yeah. Okay. Uh, that’s good.
Chris [00:26:49]:
I am not a boomer. Not that old.
Sam [00:26:51]:
Okay. You say that. Uh, until next time, I’m Sam.
Chris [00:26:55]:
I’m Chris.
Sam [00:26:55]:
See ya.
Chris [00:26:57]:
Bye.
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