Summary

Chris forgets his wallet and has to brave the cyclone for baked beans, while Sam declines a Civil Defense Centre gig ahead of a stormy weekend.

We dive into the KitKat heist, ponder the wisdom of homemade bird submarines and skydiving parrots, and laugh at improv mishaps involving Swedish twins.

There’s talk of AI nonsense, including caveman hacks and chatbot congressional grilling, plus politicians snorkeling in potholes and floating Nutella in space.

Plus more

Links

Cyclone Hitting New Zealand
KitKat Protection Detail
Bernie Sanders Interviews Claude
AI Caveman Hack
Bird Submarine
Google Shipped More AI than anyone

Show Transcript

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Sam [00:00:21]:
Hello and welcome to episode 575 of the Chris and Sam podcast.

Chris [00:00:25]:
I’m Chris.

Sam [00:00:26]:
I’m Sam. Did I say that right? Yeah, it sounded really weird to me.

Chris [00:00:31]:
Well, it was a little bit like I’ve forgotten who I am. It’s like you were having my dementia moment for me, maybe.

Sam [00:00:38]:
No, because I was just trying to.

Chris [00:00:40]:
I had to.

Sam [00:00:40]:
I was going to lead with something. But anyway, hope you’re well. Welcome to the podcast. I’m Sam, this is Chris. And if you didn’t get that we’ve been only doing this 12 years, what could go wrong?

Chris [00:00:50]:
We’re getting there. We’ll learn one day.

Sam [00:00:52]:
I was going to say, if you are one of the die hard fans that listens to this as soon as it drops. Hope you’re okay out out there because apparently the cyclone should almost be here. It’s exciting. Do you know about this?

Chris [00:01:02]:
I. I only heard today.

Sam [00:01:04]:
Okay.

Chris [00:01:04]:
Because I was like, it’s gonna be wet, but I’ll go to the shops later. Oh, no, I won’t go to the shops today. And they’re going, well, you want to get food in before the cyclone. I forgot to get bread, actually. And I’m like, oh, I better go today then. And then I was just telling Sam, actually, I. I hobbled there with my walking stick, which is quite painful, really. And I got, I got to the warehouse where I was going to get my baked beans and bits and.

Chris [00:01:30]:
And realized I left my wallet at home. So I had to. I had my phone with me. I had to jump on the lime. Scooter, scooter back, get my wallet, scooter back again, do the shopping. And I came back out and went, oh, screw this. And I scooted home with the shopping.

Sam [00:01:44]:
Excellent. Nothing, nothing like good planning when you’re injured.

Chris [00:01:48]:
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sam [00:01:49]:
Gonna be interesting to see how bad the cyclone is. They’ve never given a warning or very uncommon this far ahead. So they announced it already. They normally wait a bit closer and it’s one of the only times, I think they’ve announced it for the whole of the North Island. It’s not one area, it’s the whole of the North Island. Oh, really? Like it’s apparently that bad. Landfall at midday on Sunday. We will see how this pans out.

Sam [00:02:13]:
This may be the last podcast ever. No, we will find a way.

Chris [00:02:17]:
Well, no, actually, you know, because we have survived. We survived Easter, we survived nuclear war. I Thought we would have to be heading to a. An airfield with pitchforks. All of New Zealand heading to airfields with Pitchforch to. To get rid of these refugee billionaires that be flying in when nuclear missiles start raining. I was going to like confront Peter Teal and stick him with.

Sam [00:02:43]:
I don’t know how you were going to get to the airport with a pitchfork with your walking stick thing.

Chris [00:02:47]:
All right, true.

Sam [00:02:48]:
So anyway, we’ll see how it goes.

Chris [00:02:49]:
Uber bro.

Sam [00:02:50]:
Uber Uber. So anyway, yeah if you listen to this in the future, hopefully you’re okay.

Chris [00:02:57]:
Yeah, yeah.

Sam [00:02:58]:
I usually wear okay here in Hamilton just because we’re right in the center. I did get an email at work asking if I wanted to work in the Civil Defense Centre this weekend. Am I available if I. If they need me? Because listen, what did you say? I said no. Sorry, I clicked a no button, just not feeling it. But yeah, I’m part of that apparently.

Chris [00:03:21]:
Yeah, I know you are. Yeah.

Sam [00:03:23]:
So anyway, better stop at the supermarket later.

Chris [00:03:26]:
Yeah.

Sam [00:03:27]:
Oh, I was gonna say something. The. The KitKat heist. We talked about that.

Chris [00:03:32]:
Yes.

Sam [00:03:33]:
So they’ve got a.

Chris [00:03:33]:
We’ve been everywhere like. Yeah, it’s been mean to like you. I only heard of it when you talked about last week and then I heard of it everywhere and did you see somebody was. Did a photo of Artemis with the KitKats?

Sam [00:03:47]:
Yeah, yeah. The ultimate getaway or something.

Chris [00:03:49]:
Yeah, yeah.

Sam [00:03:50]:
Did you see the. In Toronto, the presidential level protection for the truck?

Chris [00:03:56]:
No.

Sam [00:03:57]:
So. So a marketing company put out an ad I guess and it said hey, we need security detail for a vehicle I guess, can you provide it? And they’ve got a little truck like a removal truck with KitKat all over it and they were driving around with four black SUV’s tailing it really closely because they’re worried about people stealing their KitKats. They did roll out a tracking system. Did you see that real quick?

Chris [00:04:26]:
No.

Sam [00:04:27]:
So they knew that it was. They knew the batch number. So they’ve got a website you can go to and check your chocolate to see if it’s stolen. I don’t know this.

Chris [00:04:37]:
Maybe the whole thing’s just a huge marketing publicity event.

Sam [00:04:41]:
Do you think the 12 tonnes actually got stolen? They must have, eh.

Chris [00:04:44]:
Because you can’t think I think it would have a company that big.

Sam [00:04:47]:
But it is.

Chris [00:04:48]:
They’ve made so much money out of that heist, you know like.

Sam [00:04:52]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:04:53]:
In terms of reputational value, they’ve made so much, you know, like if they had to spend on advertising what they’ve got in with awareness. Yeah.

Sam [00:05:05]:
You know, so the official statement I read here says. Official statement in response to other official statements. Thank you for your interest in the missing KitKats. But to clarify, this is not a stunt or an April Fool’s joke. Someone really stole 12 tons of KitKats and we really want to know where they’ve gone. So we created a stolen KitKat tracker. Lets you check if your KitKat is missing from the batch. So that’s good.

Sam [00:05:26]:
I mean, it is Nestle, who is like an evil corporation. So there’s that too, actually.

Chris [00:05:33]:
Iona or Elona, I’ve forgotten her name. Ilona Holloway. I think she did a really good breakdown of how KitKat has turned that story into a. Turned a bad thing into a story and the actual elements that they put in there.

Sam [00:05:49]:
Good on.

Chris [00:05:49]:
That’s really good.

Sam [00:05:50]:
That’s good. Their marketing team needs a raise.

Chris [00:05:53]:
Yep.

Sam [00:05:54]:
You know who doesn’t need a raise? Google.

Chris [00:05:57]:
Okay, what’s Google done?

Sam [00:05:59]:
So they’ve done some testing on the Google AI. I don’t know if you use Google much, but it comes back with the stupid AI results at the top of Google search results now.

Chris [00:06:10]:
Yeah.

Sam [00:06:10]:
And it sort of tries to condense the information to you. They’ve worked out that it’s probably telling millions of lies per hour and it said, is 90% accuracy good enough for a search robot? And. Yeah, so it’s just you can’t trust anything that AI tells you. We all know that. I hope everyone knows that.

Chris [00:06:28]:
Right.

Sam [00:06:28]:
Because I know it’s handy, but. Yeah, people are still getting caught out.

Chris [00:06:32]:
I think I saved something about this, but I saved the whole article and I can’t remember what was interesting in this whole article, but basically it was about AI’s TurboQuant being better than everybody else’s and.

Sam [00:06:45]:
Turboquant?

Chris [00:06:46]:
Yeah.

Sam [00:06:47]:
Is that what it’s called?

Chris [00:06:48]:
Yeah.

Sam [00:06:49]:
Man, I’d have a field day. If I was calling things, I’d call it. What would I call it? Rapid Taint.

Chris [00:06:55]:
The open question is whether anyone actually switches. Google’s best AI products are still scattered across too many interfaces. NotebookLM, AI Studio, Opal Stitch, Gemini, CLI and Anti Gravity.

Sam [00:07:08]:
I haven’t even heard half of these things, but I’m not in that space.

Chris [00:07:11]:
No, no.

Sam [00:07:12]:
Who cares?

Chris [00:07:13]:
No, I’m not that fussed about that

Sam [00:07:15]:
one, to be honest with you. Okay.

Chris [00:07:17]:
I went to Improv in the weekend.

Sam [00:07:19]:
Oh, one. Yeah, that’s right. They had it on Easter weekend. I’m sure it was.

Chris [00:07:22]:
It actually was the business we’d had.

Sam [00:07:25]:
Oh.

Chris [00:07:25]:
I think it was 18 people turned up and.

Sam [00:07:27]:
To do the improv.

Chris [00:07:28]:
Yeah, to do it.

Sam [00:07:29]:
Oh, okay, enough.

Chris [00:07:31]:
Half of them were new.

Sam [00:07:33]:
Okay. So no one.

Chris [00:07:34]:
Literally half.

Sam [00:07:35]:
So no one left Hamilton and they thought, no, actually, we’ll give this a

Chris [00:07:39]:
crack because I went with Adam. So I. I said to Ad. Adam McFall.

Sam [00:07:43]:
Yes, Adam McFall.

Chris [00:07:44]:
Yeah. I’d said to him, has he been before? No.

Sam [00:07:47]:
No.

Chris [00:07:48]:
So when we went to the movie premiere of Matua.

Sam [00:07:52]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:07:53]:
On the drive back, we were talking about in the car. I said, oh, next year when it starts, I’ll let you know.

Sam [00:07:57]:
Yeah, cool.

Chris [00:07:58]:
So it was the first one to, you know, on, on the weekend. And so I gave him a call. He said, yep. So he, he, he took. Took me down there. So I didn’t have.

Sam [00:08:07]:
Nice.

Chris [00:08:07]:
Yeah, that was cool. Gave me a lift down there. It was really. It was really good. And there’s a game called Papers. I don’t know if you’ve seen Papers

Sam [00:08:16]:
before and you’re not sure.

Chris [00:08:17]:
You’re doing a scene, you get ask. You know, you’re doing a scene, you’re doing this thing, and as you go through, you go. And what my grandmother always says, and then you pick up a piece of the floor and you read it out. Yeah. And then you justify what you’ve read.

Sam [00:08:30]:
Yeah, of course. Part of the thing.

Chris [00:08:32]:
And so I had one. Yeah. And I picked it up and it says, do you remember the Swedish twins?

Sam [00:08:39]:
Okay.

Chris [00:08:39]:
At which point half of the room fell over laughing.

Sam [00:08:42]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:08:43]:
Like, absolutely lost it. I was losing it. And half the room were looking at us going, they were lost. What on earth is going on?

Sam [00:08:50]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:08:51]:
So it’s an ongoing joke because I accidentally told them a story about how I got rolled as a drunk. Yeah. In Gibraltar by a couple of Swedish twins that I thought I was going to get lucky with. But.

Sam [00:09:03]:
Yeah, it’s not going to happen. Everyone could have told you that.

Chris [00:09:06]:
So. Yeah, no, improv was really good.

Sam [00:09:09]:
How did you go with the physicality? Were you hobbling around after that one?

Chris [00:09:13]:
I. I went out, I got up there and put a chair and sat down.

Sam [00:09:17]:
Oh, okay.

Chris [00:09:18]:
Did my seat. Sitting down? Yeah, it. It’s pretty bad, actually. I. Yeah, my walking is absolutely.

Sam [00:09:25]:
You don’t have to tell me that. I’ve witnessed it.

Chris [00:09:27]:
Yeah.

Sam [00:09:27]:
It’s not good. But hopefully one day they’ll fix you.

Chris [00:09:31]:
I. Yeah, I had to do some filming today and I was standing up for it.

Sam [00:09:34]:
Oh, no.

Chris [00:09:35]:
Even standing up. Pain, like. So I’m going to be sitting down for any more filming, I think. But anyway, that’s what it is. That’s what it is.

Sam [00:09:44]:
Well, that’s true. If you, I don’t know about this. If you had a pet parrot named Bebe or Babe Beebe, B E, B E B whatever. If you wanted to take it on an excursion that it couldn’t normally do, would you if you had the means to do it. So you’re going to take this bird out of its natural environment and apparently he’s gonna like it. How do you feel about a guy making a homemade bird sized submarine to take the bird to the Bahamas? Any thoughts on that?

Chris [00:10:24]:
Did he test it at home before he went all the way to the Bahamas?

Sam [00:10:27]:
Yes, it has an installed O2 metre inside the front of the container that would alarm if the oxygen levels dropped. He wanted to make sure it had plenty of fresh air. They run extensive safety tests, obviously in the bathtub as you do with a bird and submarine. Don’t know why you wouldn’t. And it’s a sheltered harbour in that. Now let’s say, you know, you’ve just ingested that piece of knowledge. I told you that’s not its wildest activity. It’s done.

Sam [00:10:55]:
What do you think this bird has

Chris [00:10:57]:
also done other than a submarine?

Sam [00:10:59]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:11:02]:
I can’t think of anything worse than the submarine.

Sam [00:11:05]:
It’s been skydiving. It goes into a bubble strapped on the front of the guy and apparently he loves it. When he gets to about a thousand feet, he opens the bubble and lets the bird out and then it follows him in the parachute all the way down the ground.

Chris [00:11:21]:
That’s sort of pretty cool. And that’s more of its natural environment than under the water.

Sam [00:11:25]:
Yeah. So it’s also done the jump 15 times. Some people have too much time and

Chris [00:11:30]:
money on their hands. Yeah. Okay. I want that bird’s life going back to AI for a second. Did you see it became a bit of a thing. Bernie Sanders. You know who Bernie Sanders is? Yeah, he interviewed Claude on camera on a YouTube video.

Sam [00:11:50]:
Oh, okay. No, I didn’t know. Hang on. So was Claude. He was just asking questions to it.

Chris [00:11:56]:
Yeah. So it was like a congressional hearing. I don’t know if it was like a made up, like in a congressional hearing or whether it was actually part of the congressional hearings that are going on. But Sanders asked Claude what information AI collects and what it knows about Americans.

Sam [00:12:13]:
Okay. And was it truthful? We don’t know.

Chris [00:12:16]:
Actually. Claude told him tech companies track everything, browsing history, location data, blah blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And Sanders has pushed for a moratorium on new AI data centers. So is that what Claude sort of suggested, a more targeted approach?

Sam [00:12:35]:
Burn them to the ground?

Chris [00:12:37]:
Then Sanders pointed out the AI companies are pouring hundreds of millions into lobbying to block exactly those safeguards. And Claude went, oh, yeah, no, you’re right, because that’s what freaking AI does. Yeah.

Sam [00:12:49]:
And then it’s just driving up the cost of RAM and hard drives.

Chris [00:12:52]:
So this clip. And I put this in a week ago so it’d be possibly way more. The clip at this stage had racked up 4.4 million views and split the Internet. Privacy advocates said Claude confirmed what they’ve been arguing for years. AI researchers said Sanders was leading the witness. Everybody else said, wait, you’re doing congressional hearings with chatbots now?

Sam [00:13:18]:
They’ll probably start doing it to each other. Because aren’t they building search platforms for the chatbots to talk to other chatbots and search their own chatbot stuff?

Chris [00:13:27]:
Yeah, there’s a whole bunch of stuff. So we’d already talked about the books that were made for AI.

Sam [00:13:33]:
It’s nuts.

Chris [00:13:34]:
Yeah. And I’m sure I read something else about an AI thing made for AIs to build AIs, and it’s just like.

Sam [00:13:41]:
It’s just too much AIs. With AIs. Yeah, I don’t like it.

Chris [00:13:45]:
But luckily, and apparently, I didn’t know this was a big thing, but AI porn is actually really huge. Okay, so on school, there’s a school. So school’s a platform where communities, Lots of communities and lots of courses in that. And in one of the. The main community, the school community, where all the owners of school communities go, oh, okay, yeah, you can post things there, or the owners can and all that. Somebody goes, who else is sick of AI porn everywhere? And I’m like, what? And apparently there’s a few AI porn. How to make AI porn communities. So the comments on this post were hilarious.

Chris [00:14:24]:
Oh, that’s terrible. Where exactly is that?

Sam [00:14:27]:
I need to check it. Check it out for purposes.

Chris [00:14:31]:
Yeah, Almost all the comments, I think. Well, I didn’t scan through all of them, but it looked like they were all that. But I was like, I don’t even know that was a thing. But then what would I know?

Sam [00:14:42]:
So who knows? This happened the other week. If you’ve got a problem and you want to raise awareness of it, people do, like, you know, interesting things. And in South Africa, a politician wanted to highlight management failures in the city, in Johannesburg, so she jumped into a pothole and snorkeled in it. And it’s so Massive. It’s basically like a small pond.

Chris [00:15:14]:
That’s not a pothole. You can’t call that a pothole.

Sam [00:15:17]:
Yeah, no, it’s a large water filled trench on a suburban road and she was trying to draw attention to it. Apparently she’s a well known politician, Helen Zill or Zilly. And she paddled around with it. I guess that’s one way to get it. Get attention.

Chris [00:15:35]:
I guess. So I was gonna talk about this amazing spam email I got.

Sam [00:15:40]:
You didn’t save it?

Chris [00:15:41]:
Yeah, I didn’t press save. I’m sure I pasted it in there. I didn’t press save. Good. So we’ll do that next week.

Sam [00:15:46]:
I look forward to it. And our listeners will be hanging onto their seats if they haven’t washed away due to a cyclone.

Chris [00:15:53]:
Uh, I, I had a. Did I tell you I had an issue with broadband last Wednesday?

Sam [00:15:58]:
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It came. Right. And you were depressed because you’d lost out on six hours of looking at adult content online.

Chris [00:16:07]:
None of that is true. But yeah, so actually it was April Fool’s morning. The first.

Sam [00:16:13]:
Yeah. Oh, okay.

Chris [00:16:14]:
So that’s right. I immediately like. Because you can’t find support numbers anywhere. Like they really try hard to hide.

Sam [00:16:22]:
I think they’re all like that now.

Chris [00:16:24]:
Yeah, I’m sure they are. So anyway, I, I emailed, I, I went on X which I never go on and message them there.

Sam [00:16:30]:
That was Facebook messenger, is what I think most of them use now.

Chris [00:16:33]:
Oh really? Oh okay. I didn’t think of that.

Sam [00:16:35]:
Or you write a post on one of their public posts and go.

Chris [00:16:38]:
And they, I emailed them.

Sam [00:16:40]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:16:40]:
I waited around just because maybe it just will come right. Didn’t come right. Phone them. Spent 67 minutes on the phone.

Sam [00:16:48]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:16:48]:
Got it sorted. In the end she like once she actually was on the phone and I did some because I’d rebooted a couple of times she got me to reboot it again and I’m sure they rebooted it then. That’s right.

Sam [00:16:59]:
I remember you saying that worked.

Chris [00:17:00]:
And she, I said, oh, what was wrong? And she goes, I don’t know.

Sam [00:17:02]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:17:03]:
And then, and then on the 6th I got an email.

Sam [00:17:08]:
Yep.

Chris [00:17:09]:
Hi Chris, thanks for your email. I’m happy to look into this for you. Five days later.

Sam [00:17:14]:
Classic. Two degrees classic.

Chris [00:17:16]:
I need to authenticate your account so make sure you. We’re protecting your details. Can you do this? This, this and this. And my reply, I replied by email. Thankfully I didn’t wait for your glacially paced reply and I Spent over an hour on your call center queue on the morning I had this problem. So this was sorted out five days ago on the 1st of April. But good to know you eventually checked your emails.

Sam [00:17:41]:
I mean, maybe they have a ton of emails and it’s good somebody replied. But yeah, their. Their customer service went downhill real fast at one point. Actually, that’s why I moved away from them, because I couldn’t with them.

Chris [00:17:55]:
Because you suggested them.

Sam [00:17:57]:
I’m with Skinny now.

Chris [00:17:58]:
Yeah, Yeah, I might have to. I know. Actually, I’m with them because somebody knocked on my door and he promised me the world.

Sam [00:18:06]:
And how’s that going for you?

Chris [00:18:07]:
And then when I had all these problems with modem, I rang him and he never answered the phone.

Sam [00:18:13]:
Oh, no, he’s. You’re dead to him.

Chris [00:18:14]:
And then, no, this is the worst part. He knocked on my door and go, have you heard of 2 degrees? I’m like, I bought it off you.

Sam [00:18:22]:
Oh, he doesn’t even know.

Chris [00:18:24]:
Oh, really? Oh.

Sam [00:18:26]:
Oh, that’s terrible. He doesn’t care.

Chris [00:18:28]:
He was a smooth, fragrant. Fragrant. Actually, smooth, fragrant Indian fellow with a very luxurious mustache.

Sam [00:18:37]:
You don’t need to paint a picture for us. It’s okay. I believe a man. I believe a man came and sold you into there. I don’t want to know what happened next.

Chris [00:18:45]:
Okay, yeah, whatever.

Sam [00:18:47]:
Took him out for dinner anyway. That’s cool. It’s never good.

Chris [00:18:52]:
Oh, and I’ve got one final thing on AI. It’s a LinkedIn post. I believe it’s real. Meh. What actually made me think it was funny was one of the comments. And basically a Reddit user has stumbled on a surprisingly simple way to cut AI costs.

Sam [00:19:12]:
Okay.

Chris [00:19:13]:
And the trick is to make the AI respond in broken caveman style language because they’re priced by tokens. Shorter responses cost less.

Sam [00:19:25]:
So you get the answer, but it’s just written like a caveman would speak.

Chris [00:19:30]:
So instead of. So it’s got the thing. The key rules here are short three to six word sentences, no filter, no filler, sorry, preamble or pleasantries. Run tools first, show the results, then stop. Do not narrate drop articles. Me fix code, not I will fix the code baseline normal to blah, blah, blah. So basically, you can save 75% of your costs doing this.

Sam [00:19:56]:
That’s crazy.

Chris [00:19:57]:
Why? Explain Me talk first me result first me stop is sort of the thing that comes back. And yeah, so it does that. Like I say, saves a lot. And all this stuff’s there. And this is off Reddit and Then, although I saw it on LinkedIn, and then William, I followed for a while. He goes, ah, yes. Full circle back to caveman. Technology’s brought us back to our roots.

Sam [00:20:24]:
Excellent. That’s cool. Have you been watching any of this Artemis stuff?

Chris [00:20:31]:
No.

Sam [00:20:32]:
So there’s just little things happening. Like, I know.

Chris [00:20:36]:
I heard about the toilet. And I heard about the toilet.

Sam [00:20:39]:
The toilet’s fixed now. The urine extractor fan has been fixed. That’s good. It looks like a what? A contraption for $23 million. That’s crazy.

Chris [00:20:49]:
They what, the toilet?

Sam [00:20:51]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:20:51]:
The toilet’s $23 million?

Sam [00:20:53]:
Yeah. $23 million with the engine.

Chris [00:20:54]:
Holy crap.

Sam [00:20:56]:
So that’s cool. They had a problem up there for some reason. They sent them up there with Microsoft Outlook, and I did see that they had to call Houston to try and figure out why. There was two instances running and neither of them were working. So they’re not getting emails up there. So imagine what that help desk is like. Do you see the shot of the woman astronaut when she took the battery out of the camera? I think it was.

Chris [00:21:18]:
No.

Sam [00:21:19]:
So DSLR cameras or whatever usually have like, a little tab and you sort of pull it and then the battery springs out a little bit. And she did that, and it just shot out and went, like, across the spacecraft. And she dived to grab it.

Chris [00:21:31]:
Oh, yeah.

Sam [00:21:32]:
Because it’s on its way.

Chris [00:21:32]:
Create some problems.

Sam [00:21:34]:
And then there was one shot that looked like it was some sort of staged thing, but I’m not so sure. Somehow a jar of Nutella got loose and it just floated by itself in front of the camera while they were doing something. It looks like such an ad. So I hope they.

Chris [00:21:54]:
This space mission has been brought to you by Nutella.

Sam [00:21:58]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:21:58]:
Did you see the Trump talking to them?

Sam [00:22:01]:
Oh, yeah.

Chris [00:22:02]:
The silence. Yeah.

Sam [00:22:04]:
It was so good.

Chris [00:22:06]:
So Trump’s going on waffles, rambling, sort of ask the question. Sort of. Maybe not.

Sam [00:22:11]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:22:11]:
And then the guys. I just stop. Crew are just waiting.

Sam [00:22:16]:
I think it was a minute 20.

Chris [00:22:17]:
They just stand there, and everybody’s sitting there for a while. Nobody says anything. And then the guy goes, I just want to control. I just want to check our comms. And President Trump goes, I’m still here. Yeah. He’s a moron. He’s such a moron.

Sam [00:22:33]:
He’s so good.

Chris [00:22:34]:
But at least he didn’t blow us all up with a nuclear bomb.

Sam [00:22:37]:
No. There’s still a chance, though.

Chris [00:22:38]:
Oh, yeah. There’s two weeks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Taco Tuesday to. Yeah. World War Three Wednesday. I Guess.

Sam [00:22:51]:
Yeah, who knows? I don’t really have anything else.

Chris [00:22:54]:
I don’t either.

Sam [00:22:56]:
It seems to have been a very quiet week for stuff. I don’t know.

Chris [00:23:01]:
Honestly, that whole thing about waking up and finding out that he was going to wipe out a whole civilization actually made me think of the 80s, because we used to think about that quite a bit in the early 80s.

Sam [00:23:13]:
Was that like during the Cold War?

Chris [00:23:15]:
Yeah, yeah, about. Oh yeah. This is what you do. If there are nukes flying around, make sure you get under your desk. Well, we didn’t get told that. The Americans got told that. Pretty sure we were like, that’s not gonna help. But the Americans, you know, we got strong desks.

Chris [00:23:33]:
Yeah. But yeah, that whole thing’s been absolutely crazy and it, and it sounds like Iran’s won at this point. Like, actually, I’ve gotta say this. Have you watched any of their Lego videos?

Sam [00:23:49]:
The what?

Chris [00:23:50]:
The Iranian LEGO video.

Sam [00:23:52]:
Oh, I heard about them, but I haven’t seen them.

Chris [00:23:54]:
Oh, I’ve seen. I. Honestly, it’s freaking genius. I mean, I don’t. I can’t say I’m into the Iran regime, but I’ve watched every single one of those Lego videos that has come up.

Sam [00:24:08]:
So they’ve drawn you in.

Chris [00:24:09]:
I’m definitely more biased towards Iran than I am towards Trump right now.

Sam [00:24:14]:
Oh, that’s crazy.

Chris [00:24:15]:
Which is crazy. It’s mental. But honestly, they’ve got some great songs with them and they are funny ass and it’s really good. And I’m like, dude, these guys are playing the game well, you know?

Sam [00:24:31]:
Okay, so I wonder.

Chris [00:24:32]:
So check it out.

Sam [00:24:33]:
Okay. We’re endorsing it.

Chris [00:24:38]:
I don’t know. I don’t feel like I’m on America’s side. And I don’t want to say I’m on Iran’s side, but if I’m not on America’s side, where am I?

Sam [00:24:48]:
I don’t think anyone’s on America’s side. They’re on their own special.

Chris [00:24:51]:
Yeah, I think if you’re going to rank, rank them though, Israel’s the bottom, then America and then Iran and the rest of the world’s on top of that.

Sam [00:25:01]:
That’s right.

Chris [00:25:02]:
Although Hungary’s not far up there either.

Sam [00:25:04]:
Oh, really? We’ll see how we go with our cyclone. We might be at the bottom.

Chris [00:25:08]:
Yeah, yeah. Oh, no, we won’t being. We won’t. We may be destroyed by a cyclone, but we won’t be destroyed by being assholes. These guys are being destroyed by being assholes.

Sam [00:25:19]:
Yes. Oh, just real quickly, did you see the Prime Minister of New Zealand walk into the room and not realize the two new members of parliament were next to him? He just thought they were ushers. They just walked past him and he sort of stopped there and he looked around and they’re like, oh, they’re oh, oh, hey. And he said that. He goes, oh, I’m so sorry. I thought you’re ushers.

Chris [00:25:40]:
He’s such a moron.

Sam [00:25:42]:
Anyway, that brings us to the end of. I know.

Chris [00:25:46]:
Such a depressing ending.

Sam [00:25:49]:
It might not be. People might like that.

Chris [00:25:52]:
No, no, it’s depressing me as well. I don’t care about the listeners. What the hell.

Sam [00:25:59]:
That brings us to the end of the podcast, but you can check out over almost 12 years worth of podcast episodes. That’s a lot.

Chris [00:26:07]:
And a lot of them. Sam started off well.

Sam [00:26:09]:
Yeah, that’s right. There’s only probably less than 5% where I didn’t know what was going on at the start. We’ve done this multiple times, so check out tcasp.com, tcas.com we’d love it if you left us a review on Facebook. Actually, now that I think about it, go find the Chris and Sam podcast on Facebook. We’re the one with actual followers and posts, and you can leave us a review. That would be very handy. So until next time, I’m Sam.

Chris [00:26:37]:
I’m Chris.

Sam [00:26:37]:
See ya.