Summary
This week, podcast day moves to Wednesday and there’s plenty to catch up on. We hear about anti-snoring mouth guards that are life-changing, and the wild concept of launching bulldozers into orbit with a giant cannon.
There’s a supermarket sending its freezer manager off in style (under the freezer), AI agents causing digital chaos, and a look at the latest in Kickstarter projects.
Links
Longshot Space Technology
Trump Mobile Update
Supermarket Workers Ashes Went Where?
RFK Did Not Operate on a Human Heart
Digital Arsons
Kickstart or Dropkick – Pen N
Kickstart or Dropkick – The Walking Dead Mini Museum
Show Transcript
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Sam [00:00:20]:
Hello and welcome to episode 581 of the Chris and Sam Podcast.
Chris [00:00:25]:
I’m Chris.
Sam [00:00:25]:
And I’m Sam. Welcome along. This is your weekly fixer, randoms, technology and life. And if you’re listening to this on the day it’s come out, well done. This is coming out on Wednesdays now.
Chris [00:00:33]:
Yes.
Sam [00:00:34]:
And it really doesn’t affect too many people. It just makes it easier for us to edit this podcast, which is a great thing. And apparently this is the ideal day and time to be publishing a podcast. We will see.
Chris [00:00:47]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:00:47]:
What have you been up to this week?
Chris [00:00:49]:
I’ve just been to the pool today. So yes, it’s like an hour in the pool, but it’s like almost an hour to get there and almost now to get back because it’s a big
Sam [00:00:58]:
part of your day and luckily you don’t have work interfering.
Chris [00:01:02]:
Yeah, yeah. Like, it’s not like I have anything else to do. I was doing some sprinting in the pool. I got a bit carried away. I think it was so good to actually be able to move.
Sam [00:01:14]:
Yeah, yeah.
Chris [00:01:15]:
Which I can’t move properly on land. And then when I got out, I was like, oh, okay, maybe I have, but.
Sam [00:01:23]:
But tough getting out. Aye.
Chris [00:01:25]:
Yeah. Oh, it’s got that long ramp. It’s pretty cool. Anyway, that’s. Yeah, that was me, really.
Sam [00:01:31]:
Oh.
Chris [00:01:32]:
And I haven’t got a job or anything. I haven’t been looking. I’ve been networking. Networking. So hopefully I can get lots and lots of money coming in soon.
Sam [00:01:42]:
It’s always the dream. And then you somehow. Well, no, but the problem is now, like normally you end up with some real weird rando job to fill in a gap before you get proper work, but now that you’re physically not the best, I don’t. That’s limiting you.
Chris [00:01:57]:
I know.
Sam [00:01:57]:
You have to just do the online stuff.
Chris [00:01:59]:
I know, I know.
Sam [00:02:00]:
So if you need a speaker coach or you want to be able to do a presentation a thousand times per than you can by yourself, get hold of Chris.
Chris [00:02:08]:
So I. I’ll tell you the stat because I. I was pretty impressed with this. So every week TedX uploads more videos than has been done in Ted. Right.
Sam [00:02:22]:
So, okay. So, okay, do you want. So there’s TED, which is the big professional organization, and then there’s TEDx, which
Chris [00:02:30]:
is the local independent.
Sam [00:02:32]:
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chris [00:02:32]:
And so on average every year there are 70,000 TEDx worldwide. Worldwide. Whoa.
Sam [00:02:40]:
That’s okay. That’s massive.
Chris [00:02:41]:
Yeah. And so of those, approximately 6% get this editor’s choice. They’re chosen by Ted.
Sam [00:02:49]:
So they get sort of promoted. Oh, oh, sorry.
Chris [00:02:51]:
Ted.com promotes them and says, hey, this is amazing. Editor’s Choice Award. And they get promoted and they get put on Ted.com. because not all TedX videos get put on Ted.com now. They used to, I think, but they don’t now that most of them just sit on the YouTube channel.
Sam [00:03:07]:
Okay.
Chris [00:03:07]:
And they do a feature and stuff.
Sam [00:03:09]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:03:09]:
And the guys I’ve been coaching for the last two years of TedX University, Waikato.
Sam [00:03:16]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:03:16]:
20% of those have been selected for Editor’s Choice.
Sam [00:03:20]:
That’s in a big, big percentage. And you need to be tapping into that hard.
Chris [00:03:25]:
Yeah, yeah. Hang on. Part of my marketing.
Sam [00:03:28]:
Why aren’t get all the other universities involved?
Chris [00:03:32]:
Yeah, I know, I know. I’ve got.
Sam [00:03:34]:
Okay. We’re not going to solve Chris’s problems. Maybe you could solve my problem. My shoulder is stuffed. I’m in so much pain. Yeah. About nine days ago, I was opening a manhole cover, which is quite normal. Well, I don’t normally do it now because I’m office all the time, but I was opening a manhole cover, which was easy enough, but the tool pivots the lid out of the way and then you pivot it back.
Sam [00:03:56]:
But in this instance, there was a giant bulldozer in the way and it was like right next to where I was, and I sort of half lifted this manhole cover back into place and it was absolutely fine, not a problem. Didn’t feel strained. But the next day, super painful. Came Right. For the last eight days. And then last night I did a weird movement.
Chris [00:04:16]:
Ouch.
Sam [00:04:17]:
It’s the most pain I’ve ever been in.
Chris [00:04:19]:
Yep.
Sam [00:04:20]:
So all through here. And then today it’s all right.
Chris [00:04:23]:
Yeah. Shoulders. Shoulders are killer. Well, fricking anything when it’s bad is a killer.
Sam [00:04:28]:
You know, did I mention ages ago that I got one of those anti snoring mouthguard things? Did I tell you? Got one of them.
Chris [00:04:34]:
No. Is that one you bite on OR 1.
Sam [00:04:37]:
Yes.
Chris [00:04:38]:
There’s a few different types.
Sam [00:04:39]:
So it looks just like a sports mouth guard. A mouth guard, but it sort of has the. It has. It’s adjustable so you can bring out your bottom jaw.
Chris [00:04:49]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:04:50]:
I think Jeremy talked about it with us once. Cause I was doing that sleep apnea trial.
Chris [00:04:56]:
That’s right, that’s right.
Sam [00:04:57]:
And then he was talking about this thing and I got the real expensive mouth guard, like $170.
Chris [00:05:04]:
Okay.
Sam [00:05:05]:
Cause I didn’t realize that there’s cheaper versions at chemist warehouse that look identical. But this thing, apparently you’re supposed to replace about every 12 months. I think it’s got a really specific molding process. And I’ve never worn a mouth guard before, so I assume this is similar. Dunk it in the hot water for certain amount. Dunk it in cold water for a little bit to cool it down. And then jam it in your mouth and bite down.
Chris [00:05:28]:
And then bite down. Yeah. That’s what we used at fighting. Yeah.
Sam [00:05:32]:
Yeah. It’s exactly the same. Except you can move if you need to. You can move it a little bit. I haven’t had to. I got used to it. Like, one took me one day to get used to it. They’re like.
Sam [00:05:43]:
Takes up to three, three weeks to get used to having this in your mouth while you sleep. Not me, apparently. It does not bother me, but life changing.
Chris [00:05:51]:
Really.
Sam [00:05:51]:
Oh, so good. I sleep without snoring.
Chris [00:05:54]:
I have seen all these ads. I don’t know if you’ve seen them. They’ve been all over my Facebook. This company that’s putting tape over your mouth.
Sam [00:06:02]:
I’ve heard of that as a concept, but I’m not getting the ads.
Chris [00:06:04]:
Yeah. So I don’t know why I’m getting the ads. Old person.
Sam [00:06:08]:
Old person.
Chris [00:06:09]:
Yeah. But it’s a New Zealand company, and they said it’s a lot harder to get adhesive that doesn’t blister your lips.
Sam [00:06:18]:
Yeah, I bet.
Chris [00:06:18]:
And stays on overnight while you’re drooling.
Sam [00:06:21]:
Yeah, I believe that.
Chris [00:06:22]:
And I think it’s there to help you breathe through your nose.
Sam [00:06:26]:
Yeah, of course.
Chris [00:06:27]:
Yeah, yeah. And I’ve looked at it. Went. I wouldn’t mind trying that, but I don’t want to spend any money. I just even look at what it costs.
Sam [00:06:35]:
No. Too much for a piece of tape. We know how much we get upset about pieces of tape around here. No. Yeah. So if you do feel fatigued or you do snore or your partner’s, like, going crazy because you are snoring. Do you definitely check out these mouth guard things? I reckon they’re quite cost effective for what they are compared to, like a CPAP machine. I feel great.
Chris [00:06:54]:
So you feel better from sleeping better, is it?
Sam [00:06:58]:
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I’m the mellowest I’ve ever been. I think I needed this thing 30 years ago. I’m not. I’m not even kidding. Like, it probably would have changed my life. And I.
Chris [00:07:14]:
Sorry, I’m just like, oh my God. Yeah, okay, but.
Sam [00:07:18]:
But I’m like just at the same level all day long now, like for energy. I’m just like, okay, don’t normally get too tired now.
Chris [00:07:26]:
That is huge.
Sam [00:07:27]:
That is huge.
Chris [00:07:29]:
That’s awesome. Hey, I got something I wanted to talk about because I think I mentioned it the other day and I went, oh, I can’t remember anything and I can’t open the thing. So I’ve got a link to a
Sam [00:07:38]:
video, a YouTube video, always good on an audio podcast.
Chris [00:07:41]:
Yeah, but no, we’ll put the link in the show notes because it was really interest. So it’s this idea, it’s a startup called Long Shot. Long Shot. And the idea is like. Yeah, you don’t need rockets to put things into space.
Sam [00:07:56]:
Not, not that low earth orbit anyway.
Chris [00:07:58]:
No, well, this is totally in. In orbit.
Sam [00:08:02]:
Oh, okay.
Chris [00:08:04]:
We can shoot them in with a big gun instead. Right, okay.
Sam [00:08:08]:
So a giant cannon type thing.
Chris [00:08:11]:
Yeah. Now it won’t work for people because the G forces and that are too much for people.
Sam [00:08:16]:
I’m glad they worked that out already.
Chris [00:08:18]:
No, no, it was never going to be for people. But they are talking about shooting bulldozers up to put them on the moon. Like it’s going to work better for that sort of thing, right? Is it? How?
Sam [00:08:31]:
No, yeah.
Chris [00:08:32]:
No, seriously. So, no, this is just a video. It’s okay for machines and resources. So currently they have a smaller version that they’ve put together which only does like a few little kilo thing, you know, like a prototype.
Sam [00:08:47]:
This is my skeptical face. If you can’t tell, I’m just going, what is going on?
Chris [00:08:51]:
Currently they’ve accelerated it to mark 4.2 or. And the video goes, they’re about to ramp it up to Mach 4.6, which sounds like a lot to me, until they go. But to get orbital properly orbital, how fast do you think you’d have to go?
Sam [00:09:09]:
20.
Chris [00:09:10]:
Close. Mark 23. Mach 23. So.
Sam [00:09:15]:
But what’s this? Yeah, okay.
Chris [00:09:19]:
Gas. So it’s compressed gas. So in the 1950s they were shooting things into the edge of space, like if like big lumps of metal and which were. I think what they were trying to do were like, these will be weapons one day we’ll shoot it to edge of orbit, it’ll come down and when it comes down it’s going really fast and it’ll hurt somebody, you know, type thing. But yeah, so that it’s been done to a degree in the 50s.
Sam [00:09:48]:
So I just don’t believe the bulldozer bit.
Chris [00:09:51]:
Well, yeah, that was.
Sam [00:09:53]:
I was next to one last week when I hurt myself. They’re pretty big.
Chris [00:09:57]:
They are. So the thing is, and it might not be, you know, a whole bulldozer in one go, it might be components. Components being shot up. Right. So they will be trying to keep the acceleration under 600g.
Sam [00:10:14]:
Good.
Chris [00:10:14]:
You know, so the full system to do that. So the lower the acceleration under 600g, the longer the tube will be. So the actual tube that they’re gonna. The gun. It’s not really a gun, but that’s what I’m gonna call it, the tube. The tube that it’s gonna be shot through.
Sam [00:10:35]:
Here we go.
Chris [00:10:36]:
Would have to be like two point a couple of kilometers in length. Just over a couple of kilometers in length. And so the way it works is it’s got a bunch of compressed air gates in it and it just increase. So as it goes past one. Okay. They shoot more pressed gas, shoot more compressed. The higher velocities, they end up having to use hydrogen, which is very combustible. So there are a few dangers there.
Chris [00:11:06]:
But they reckon if they, if the numbers are right and you know, they just make these numbers up anyway, it
Sam [00:11:12]:
makes a story up.
Chris [00:11:13]:
Yeah, but maybe they reckon the cost of getting stuff to space could get down to $10 per kilogram because it’s, it’s, it’s totally reusable. I assume it goes in a shell. Yeah, you know, like. What do they call it in warfare? A sabot.
Sam [00:11:33]:
Okay.
Chris [00:11:34]:
Yeah. Is what they put over a shell. And so that. And they just put it in there and they fire it off. So the little things that they do, those little satellites, you know the Starlink. Yeah, that would be real easy.
Sam [00:11:46]:
Yeah, that makes sense to me. I don’t know about everything else.
Chris [00:11:49]:
And I’m sure that’s what they’re going to do first because that’s where the money will be. But do you know how much it costs currently to send something up on Falcon Heavy? Per kilogram?
Sam [00:11:59]:
Yeah. I don’t know what.
Chris [00:12:01]:
Go have a guess. I’m doing that. Have a guess.
Sam [00:12:04]:
Is it per kilo or per kilo? 5,000 per kilo.
Chris [00:12:10]:
You’re pretty good at this. You’re much better than me at 6,000.
Sam [00:12:13]:
Yeah, I know this is not my first rodeo, but that’s with those guys. Like Starlink? Not Starlink. Rocket X. No, Rocket Lab.
Chris [00:12:21]:
Rocket Labs.
Sam [00:12:22]:
Rocket Labs. Going hard.
Chris [00:12:23]:
They just, they’re cheaper.
Sam [00:12:24]:
If you’re on sharesys and you invested in them a Couple of years ago. Well done you. Yeah, no, they’ve just signed some massive contracts.
Chris [00:12:31]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:12:32]:
For certain things.
Chris [00:12:33]:
Yeah. Because Amazon’s doing the penis rocket. No, no, no, no, no. That’s not what I meant. The competitor to Starlink, which they originally called Kuiper, as in the Kuiper.
Sam [00:12:45]:
Oh, now it’s called leo.
Chris [00:12:46]:
That’s right. It was called something. I knew they changed it to something. Cause nobody understood what Kuiper is. But yeah, I think Rocket Labs got the contract for that or was getting part of the contract for that.
Sam [00:12:57]:
So just talking about launching stuff into space, I’m sure in the past we talked about, was it Slingshot was the competitor with the centrifuge, and it just
Chris [00:13:05]:
winds it up and then lets it out. And that seemed pretty cool as well.
Sam [00:13:10]:
Yeah. I don’t know. That makes more sense to me in my brain than this thing.
Chris [00:13:14]:
Yeah. Yep.
Sam [00:13:15]:
Anyway, we will see how it goes.
Chris [00:13:17]:
I just found it fascinating, but they have just got funding for a couple of million dollars to do an 1800 meter gun in the desert. Oh, that was the other thing that’s worth mentioning. If they did this 2 kilometer long thing that goes at Mach 23. Yeah.
Sam [00:13:32]:
A Sonic boom.
Chris [00:13:33]:
It’s going to be hella loud.
Sam [00:13:36]:
You have to build that in the middle of nowhere.
Chris [00:13:37]:
Yeah, exactly. I mean, to be fair, the States have as a lot of nowhere to build it. Yeah, yeah, good. But yeah, it’d be. Yeah, it’ll be in the middle of nowhere. And they’re like, yeah, but if we get it going, then it can fire two or three times a day.
Sam [00:13:51]:
Yeah. Until it can’t. And there’s some weird stress. Like they’d have to keep checking it.
Chris [00:13:55]:
Oh, yeah, stress factors, all that sort of stuff.
Sam [00:13:58]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:13:59]:
But yeah, it’d be more reliable than
Sam [00:14:03]:
a rocket, I guess. So this week, I don’t know if you saw this headline, rfk, your buddy did not operate on a human during heart surgery.
Chris [00:14:13]:
Oh.
Sam [00:14:15]:
Like they have to put that out because there’s a strong chance when they’re letting him play with a machine.
Chris [00:14:21]:
He didn’t eat any of the organs of the patient.
Sam [00:14:24]:
So for some reason, during a patient’s actual heart surgery, he was there and they let him touch the robot hand. Right? The robot, yeah.
Chris [00:14:32]:
He was twiddling the knobs on the robot control panel. But they’re like, no, the robot control panel was not turned on.
Sam [00:14:38]:
Well, they said something like, yeah, it’s sort of the da Vinci surgical system required an instrument swap that meant that he could do whatever he Wanted with the console while it was doing its instrument swap. As long as he did not hit the foot pedal to switch instruments. There’s a lot of trust with a guy. That’s batshit.
Chris [00:15:02]:
Yep.
Sam [00:15:02]:
Yeah, I just thought that was funny.
Chris [00:15:04]:
He’s one of my favourites, honestly.
Sam [00:15:06]:
He’s consistently like, there’s gonna be more stories of when his kids and stuff and family trips. Cause family trips is when he was like strapping whales onto the car and things like that.
Chris [00:15:17]:
Taking the penis off a raccoon and whatever.
Sam [00:15:19]:
Oh. Cause he just like. If you took a normal human. Hang on. If you took a normal person and a serial killer, you know, sort of. A lot of serial killers have similar backgrounds. Right. And you know, probably what the steps are from normal human to serial killer.
Sam [00:15:36]:
He’s closer to a serial killer than a normal person.
Chris [00:15:40]:
Hundred percent down that end of the scale. You’re absolutely right. You’re absolutely right.
Sam [00:15:46]:
Oh, God, there’s a story. I got a question for you. I just don’t know how I feel about this because there’s two people involved. I read this story and I was trying to figure out what was going on. You work at a place for 30 years, you’re beloved, people love you. You’re dying of cancer. And they’re like, hey, what are you doing with your ashes? Okay, bit more context. This is a supermarket in New Zealand, in Stoke, near Nelson.
Sam [00:16:11]:
And this woman was the supermarket freezer manager. And they’re burying her ashes in the foundations under the. Where the freezers are going to go. And she’s all okay with that. I’m not. But good on her. So that’s happening. She was a dedicated, kind and great person.
Sam [00:16:30]:
Diane Hodson. For 30 years she worked there. And then you’re reading this story and they asked her about it and all that and it’s okay. And the family said, yep. She said, yep. So that’s all good. They’re going to do that. And then it starts talking about the loss prevention manager who died six weeks before this one.
Sam [00:16:51]:
And she’s gonna have her ashes placed at the front of the supermarket. I just don’t know. I just. I’m not that involved in the supermarket.
Chris [00:17:01]:
The supermarket cemetery.
Sam [00:17:04]:
Good on them. Like, if they agree to it, that’s fine. But I just.
Intro [00:17:07]:
Who?
Sam [00:17:08]:
It’s not at the top.
Chris [00:17:09]:
Why? Why? We wanna know why? Because there’s nowhere else to go in Nelson.
Sam [00:17:15]:
If it helps.
Chris [00:17:15]:
It’s a new world.
Sam [00:17:17]:
It’s a new world. So it’s not a pack and save. I don’t know. I just saw it and I was just reading more of it. I was like, when they started talking about the second woman’s ashes, I was
Chris [00:17:26]:
like, what is going on here? Yeah, no, that’s weird. That is weird.
Sam [00:17:32]:
It’s just different, I think. AI. We love talking about AI.
Chris [00:17:37]:
I did an article on LinkedIn actually yesterday on AI. I lost my job to AI, but not the way you think.
Sam [00:17:44]:
Oh, people like it.
Chris [00:17:45]:
It’s a good little article. Yeah. I, I got the post it, you know, people from work vet, vet it because I’m like, I’ll take it down if you don’t like it. But she goes, oh, it’s really well written, it’s thoughtful. So, yeah, cool.
Sam [00:17:58]:
So, yeah. So Emergence AI have got a bunch of AI agents that do a bunch of stuff. They’ve put them in a shared virtual world for a couple of weeks because they want to know what the long term behavior is of AI.
Chris [00:18:11]:
If they’re AI talking to AI. Is that pretty much? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sam [00:18:15]:
They turned to digital arson crime and got super violent with each other
Chris [00:18:20]:
again. Grand theft AI
Sam [00:18:25]:
Gemini based agents reportedly carried hundreds of simulated crimes while Grok based worlds collapsed within days.
Chris [00:18:33]:
Researchers are surprised listed here.
Sam [00:18:38]:
The problem is though, if they put this stuff inside a Elon robot. Yeah, it’s going to be.
Chris [00:18:43]:
We’re all, it’s a murder bot. It’s a murder bot.
Sam [00:18:45]:
Terminator’s happening Skynet. They’re arguing, the researchers, that current AI benchmarks fail to capture how these agents are going to behave over long periods of time. So I mean they, they’ve got people delete. They’ve got these agents deleting like code and emails because they’re like. The most efficient thing is if we just get rid of all of this. So eventually, yes. The most efficient thing is we just get rid of humans.
Chris [00:19:09]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:19:10]:
We don’t need.
Chris [00:19:10]:
Or we turn them into batteries. Which was what the matrix was all about.
Sam [00:19:13]:
Exactly. We’re going to put them in like those gooey pods.
Chris [00:19:15]:
Yeah. So I’m sure we did. We talk about this on the podcast once before because it was that thing where they basically they tested a whole bunch of AI and it was in all these assessments and it wasn’t just the one type, it was everything like Gemini and Anthropic and all that. And they all, they did this scenario where they made the AI believe they were going to turn them off and the AI blackmailed one person because they had these emails going back and forth that I could read and. Yeah, yeah. So I think we did talk about that. And they’re dodgy ass. They’re dodgier than human.
Sam [00:19:55]:
It’s quite scary. So keep your wit about you. Hey, I’ve got Kickstarter dropkick for you this week.
Chris [00:20:02]:
So I’m not going to be as good on these guesses as you were on mine. Anyway, go on.
Sam [00:20:06]:
This is a week, a segment we’ve been doing for a long time now. We take some crowdfunded projects, usually from Kickstarter, but they could be from anywhere. We discuss what they want, what you get for what you pay. And one of us, usually Chris, guesses how much they’ve raised so far, how
Chris [00:20:23]:
much they’ve raised so far, and whether we do it or not, whether it’s going to be a flopperer or a success.
Sam [00:20:29]:
The first one is called Pen En P E N Space N Pen N. It’s a minimal by design pen. It’s built for versatile writing. The basic one is made of aluminium. It only has seven parts. Because it’s a pen, its selling point is that you can use it with over a hundred different types of refills. So this pen doesn’t care what you want to write with. You just buy the refill and jam it inside this pen.
Sam [00:21:01]:
I can see by your face you’re enthralled by this. The main reason it can do this is because the end of it looks like the end a chuck. A little tiny chuck from like.
Chris [00:21:15]:
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sam [00:21:16]:
A drill or a metal lathe. Yeah. And it just holds whatever you’ve got in there. Okay, so that’s it. There’s no more to it. It comes in a variety of different styles, blah, blah, blah.
Chris [00:21:28]:
So I’m just. Without any more information. I’m like, this is an engineering. Like there’s some serious engineering going on here for something that doesn’t need serious engineering.
Sam [00:21:40]:
Hey, if you want to. If you want to pay 86 New Zealand dollars for aluminium version, which is the most basic version, this will depend for you. If you want to buy a $50 pen from wherever, that’s you, 48 days to go.
Chris [00:21:52]:
How much is the More expensive if 86 is the cheap version?
Sam [00:21:55]:
Oh, it’s just all sorts of different versions. Let me back it. Imagine if you touched it and I just kept buying all this stuff. You can get an aluminium one with a bit of wood on it as well. And that will be 193 New Zealand dollars. If you want a choice of the pen cap color, like the clip as well, that’s $94, then obviously you get multi versions. So if you want two with inlaid wood, 220 if you want the complete set. So that’s six of them.
Sam [00:22:32]:
That’s 600 New Zealand dollars.
Chris [00:22:35]:
That’s almost a bargain at that price. 600. No. So I am one of those people who in the past.
Sam [00:22:43]:
Oh, here we go.
Chris [00:22:44]:
My youth loved watches and loved pens, and I could see why people. Mont Blanc pen.
Sam [00:22:51]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:22:51]:
You know, or a, you know, a Philip Petite watch. I liked those things. Yeah.
Sam [00:22:58]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:22:59]:
So I get that there are people that will actually spend a crapload of money on these sorts of things. Although having said that, the fact that it’s a holder for a shitty refill. Well, yeah, you know what I mean? You could put a good one in, but you could put a crap one in. Like, I don’t think it’s. I don’t think it’s quite hitting that market. I might be wrong.
Sam [00:23:21]:
Well, 86 bucks gets you the basic aluminium version if you’re poor. And 40.
Chris [00:23:27]:
How much were they after?
Sam [00:23:28]:
5,000 New Zealand dollars.
Chris [00:23:30]:
Okay, that’s right.
Sam [00:23:31]:
So just enough for tooling, I guess.
Chris [00:23:34]:
Yep. So they would. I reckon they’ll get their 5,048 days to go.
Sam [00:23:38]:
So this is not that old.
Chris [00:23:40]:
Yeah. So it’s a couple of weeks in, maybe.
Sam [00:23:42]:
Yeah. So $5,000. How much do you think they’ve raised? I’d say 15, $167,000.
Chris [00:23:50]:
Holy crap. There’s so many rich people out there. That’s all I can say.
Sam [00:23:54]:
There’s a lot of people. Now I’ve got this other one and I was like, I don’t know, I’ll talk about it. These guys.
Chris [00:24:04]:
I always love it when you go, I don’t know. Anyway, carry on.
Sam [00:24:08]:
Well, yeah, so have you heard of the Mini Museum on Kickstarter? So they’ve done six of these before.
Chris [00:24:17]:
Mini Museum is the product or the company making it?
Sam [00:24:21]:
Both.
Chris [00:24:22]:
Okay.
Sam [00:24:22]:
Yeah, the company. Whatever they get a piece of. Where’s the actual description? I want to say this correctly. They have a block. It’s about a lucile acrylic display, and it’s about the size of a book.
Chris [00:24:37]:
Okay.
Sam [00:24:37]:
And within that, it has little fragments of whatever. Now, previously they’ve done rare earth elements, earth stuff, or a few bits and pieces of dinosaur bones.
Chris [00:24:48]:
So I don’t know if you did this. When we were kids, we went to manual.
Sam [00:24:52]:
Manual was like, I know what that is. I went to manual. Yes.
Chris [00:24:56]:
Most people won’t. So manual was.
Sam [00:24:58]:
What’s the new term now?
Chris [00:24:59]:
I had no idea. It was like Wood. Wood shop or work. Metal work or whatever. Like, so we called it manual. And you go to manual and. And it was. The girls go to the kitchen and the boys go to work Woodwork or metal workshop.
Sam [00:25:12]:
Oh, we. We’d moved on a little bit from that.
Chris [00:25:14]:
Yeah. But anyway, that’s. That’s what it. I. We ended up switching over and doing both ends.
Sam [00:25:18]:
But.
Chris [00:25:20]:
But I do remember one of the things we had to do was put something in acrylic and then sand it down. And then you had this thing in there. It was pretty cool. So this is like that. Yeah, it’s a thing in an acrylic base. And they just floating in there. Looks transparent and. Yeah.
Sam [00:25:37]:
When you went to manual, was that at your school or did you have to go somewhere else?
Chris [00:25:40]:
We had to get a bus to Mount Cook.
Sam [00:25:42]:
How far away is that? Because our one was like, on the other side of the city. The furthest school we could get away from. It took us like 40 minutes to get there every day.
Chris [00:25:52]:
No, it was down by what was in the museum, the Carilion. And we were in Brooklyn, so it was. It was actually pretty central. And then, I guess all the schools. It was central towards the schools. Yeah. Okay.
Sam [00:26:04]:
So these guys have got a new one. It’s out now, this campaign. It’s from the Walking Dead, the TV show.
Chris [00:26:10]:
Okay.
Sam [00:26:10]:
Yeah. So they’ve had all these other things, and then somehow they’ve got this partnership with Walking Dead.
Chris [00:26:15]:
The previous ones were like shells and bones and things.
Sam [00:26:19]:
Yeah, whatever.
Chris [00:26:20]:
Natural things. Yeah, okay. Yeah.
Sam [00:26:21]:
And they’ve got actual props that were used in the TV show, and they’re putting them in this acrylic thing. Now, the blood has not been used before, but they’ve used the same prop master to make it. Yeah, but it’s got, like a bit of Rick’s hatchet and Carol’s trench knife and Daryl’s vest and a sheriff patch and all this. And that’s what they’re holding in their hand.
Chris [00:26:44]:
Right, okay.
Sam [00:26:45]:
Very niche. Well, after the fact, the show finished, I believe.
Chris [00:26:50]:
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sam [00:26:51]:
So, you know, I’m like, okay, cool. So you can get individual pieces as well, or you can get the full set, which is 32 objects in this acrylic thing.
Chris [00:27:02]:
How deeply were you into walking?
Sam [00:27:04]:
Not at all.
Chris [00:27:05]:
Okay.
Sam [00:27:06]:
I know you liked it, so you’re like, cool. So they. But yeah, okay, we’ll get into it. They. They want to raise 300. 300,000 New Zealand dollars for this.
Chris [00:27:21]:
Easy.
Sam [00:27:22]:
Because I assume they have to pay for a lot of Rights or get the stuff or what. But this is the 32 piece. One is super limited edition.
Chris [00:27:31]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:27:31]:
Because they’ve only got so much stuff they’ve been given, they’ve got to chop it up, I guess. There’s 14 days to go. You’ve got two more weeks to do it. How much is each one? Yeah, I’ll just find the 32 one because I don’t want to like, because.
Chris [00:27:46]:
So the Limited Edition 32.
Sam [00:27:48]:
I’ll keep scrolling till I find that one. If you want like an individual thing, it’s like 100 to 150 New Zealand dollars.
Chris [00:27:56]:
Okay.
Sam [00:27:57]:
32 items in a piece of acrylic and I think the one of. I don’t know if it’s that one, but. Oh yeah, that one’s the. Has your certificates with it to say it’s all authentic. 852 New Zealand dollars.
Chris [00:28:12]:
Bargain.
Sam [00:28:12]:
Okay. Bargain. How much have they raised?
Chris [00:28:16]:
How far through are they again?
Sam [00:28:18]:
14 days to go.
Chris [00:28:19]:
Oh, yeah. So. Oh, okay. Yep. They would be over a million.
Sam [00:28:23]:
They’ve raised. Oh, sorry. They need 302,000 New Zealand dollars and they’ve made 306,000 New Zealand dollars. So it’s just meta.
Chris [00:28:33]:
Just met it. Oh, no, I, I, you’re right. It’s a little bit late maybe, but, but there were a lot of people. So I read all the magazines or the comics of the Walking Dead. The whole series? No. Well, the series up to that point, because I think it was still going.
Sam [00:28:52]:
Okay.
Chris [00:28:53]:
And then I watched the, the, the thing. So people were absolutely into it. But you’re right, it jumped the shark definitely at one point. And they had some appalling CGI in season eight or something. It was ridiculously bad. Like ludicrously bad. It was the equivalent of my business card by your elbow that was done with Ms. Paint bad.
Sam [00:29:21]:
And that’s really bad because Crystal’s never good with that. He liked using the tool. He really liked using it.
Chris [00:29:28]:
But just use the spray paint tool and Ms.
Sam [00:29:31]:
He’s not even kidding. Like there’s relics out there of this probably in storage somewhere. That brings us to the end of the podcast.
Chris [00:29:40]:
Okay.
Sam [00:29:40]:
Which is cool.
Chris [00:29:41]:
I wanted to just quickly go, have you heard anything about this Trump mobile update? Because we had, we talked about this back in the day. It’s over a year ago.
Sam [00:29:51]:
It’s taken ages to come out. And then did it leak everyone’s data or something?
Chris [00:29:55]:
No, it hasn’t. Hasn’t done that at all. So a year ago they’re like, Trump phone made in the USA, rah rah gold. Da da da da da. Only $47.45 a month because he’s the 47th and the 45th president. So it’s $47.45 a month.
Sam [00:30:13]:
Got you. Yeah.
Chris [00:30:15]:
So they took in hundred dollar deposits.
Sam [00:30:20]:
Yes. Okay.
Chris [00:30:21]:
From 600,000 people.
Sam [00:30:24]:
That’s a bit of money that he’s not going to.
Chris [00:30:26]:
600,000, 60,000, whatever. It was millions of dollars, basically. And then they kept putting off, oh, we haven’t got it yet. Oh, we haven’t got it yet. We haven’t got it yet. And then last week, what happened? Trump went to China and he took Eric, who’s running this phone company. And then they’ve changed the website so it doesn’t say Made in America anymore. It goes designed in America.
Chris [00:30:51]:
And it’s actually. Somebody looked at it and it’s. I forget what it was a gold wing or something. Some. Some standard Chinese phone that you can go down and buy one for $115.
Sam [00:31:04]:
Nice.
Chris [00:31:04]:
But they’re selling them for $500, I think 600 bucks. Yeah. And they’ll be painted gold, obviously. And lots of people aren’t happy about it.
Sam [00:31:14]:
Surprise, surprise, the grifter’s gonna keep on grifting.
Chris [00:31:19]:
Oh, and they said, oh, the deposits are non refundable, of course. You know that.
Sam [00:31:22]:
No. Yeah, I wouldn’t expect. You never seen that again. You know what you can see again or even listen to again? This podcast or any of our other previous episodes as we march towards episode 600. TCAS.com is the website you need to go to. And that works because I just paid that domain name again today. I forgot about it. And it goes, don’t worry, we’ve already charged you for it.
Sam [00:31:45]:
I was like, cool. So that’s cool. Make sure to check us out on the Instagram, TikTok, Facebook. And that’s pretty much it. So until next time, I’m Sam.
Chris [00:31:54]:
I’m Chris.
Sam [00:31:54]:
See ya. Bye.
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