Indoor Rock Climbing and Bullet Coffee – EP11

Show Transcript

This transcript was generated by an AI and may not be 100% accurate. If you have questions about any of the information found here, please reach out to us.

Chris [00:00:06]:
Hello, Chris. Hey, Sam. How are you doing?

Sam [00:00:24]:
I’m good. This This is number 11.

Chris [00:00:27]:
11? That’s crazy. Leagues 11. Leagues 11.

Sam [00:00:30]:
Yeah. Okay. The end, and I cut

Chris [00:00:41]:
you off. You did. You cut me off. And what I wanted to say was a big shout out to, p Pocket Casts. Get it right.

Sam [00:00:50]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:00:51]:
My my new podcast software. So, It’s made by Shifty Jelly.

Sam [00:00:57]:
Yeah. I love that name.

Chris [00:00:58]:
Yes. It’s awesome, mate.

Sam [00:01:00]:
No. That that that that actually just appeals to me.

Chris [00:01:02]:
Yeah. I don’t I don’t even know why, but Shifty Jelly. It’s just cool. It just sounds good. Anyway, I had mentioned before that, We got a really cool email from PocketHouse when we when we got on there.

Sam [00:01:15]:
So, I

Chris [00:01:17]:
had been having a few little problems with Stitcher. Now I love Stitcher. I’ve had Stitcher for for ages. It’s really been my my podcast thing, but the app’s been playing up on my phone. Cut off halfway through. Yeah. Then when you turn it back on, it’s on a different podcast, and then you gotta try and find where you’re at. And you can’t just, You know, jump forward in 22nd lots, and, oh my god, it just drove me insane.

Chris [00:01:43]:
So I spent money, which is not something I do with apps, Really? And I got the, Pocket Cast with Shifty Jelly, and I got a yeah. Shout out to them. Man, that is a good product. That is awesome.

Sam [00:01:55]:
It is. I I love it.

Chris [00:01:56]:
I I went through I binged listened to, Start Up? Start Up. That was a brilliant, Brilliant, podcast. If you haven’t listened to

Sam [00:02:06]:
it, I highly recommend it. Start up the podcast .com. If not, we’ll put I’ll put show links down below for what that is. It’s really cool.

Chris [00:02:15]:
And because it’s gimletmedia.com.

Sam [00:02:18]:
It is Gimlet Media. That’s what they came up with?

Chris [00:02:28]:
Except maybe you shouldn’t listen to it because it makes us sound way more amateur. No. Because that guy, that is awesome.

Sam [00:02:36]:
What I want but what I will say to what you just said, go listen to some other podcasts that are being made in New Zealand right now. On. You see how well they sound.

Chris [00:02:46]:
Yeah. And we love you all, honest. We do. We do. But no. We we we do we’re doing our best. And When I say we, I really mean Sam because Sam does all the editing. He really sorts out the, the Someone has to the sound engineering stuff.

Chris [00:03:02]:
And, yeah. And he pretty much owns all the equipment with I don’t even own the sofas we’re sitting on, actually.

Sam [00:03:09]:
The main thing is Chris turns up at his own house. Like, he just has to walk down the stairs, and he sits here and records the podcast with me. And then Excellent.

Chris [00:03:19]:
And then Sam goes home, edits it, uploads it, does all the stuff I have no idea about

Sam [00:03:24]:
how all that works. Don’t worry about that. It’s magic. Yeah. It’s magic.

Chris [00:03:27]:
It’s the magic that Sam has.

Sam [00:03:29]:
It’s pretty good. I’m liking the podcasting thing. It’s it’s I I I

Chris [00:03:33]:
look forward to it. I look forward

Sam [00:03:34]:
to us

Chris [00:03:35]:
getting together and having a chat and And, I

Sam [00:03:37]:
just wish those bloody arms would turn up from China. I’ve got a Right. We’re getting these, scissor sort of arms that mount to the desk so we can have the microphone easy.

Chris [00:03:48]:
Of, those old school desk lamps that Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Move around.

Sam [00:03:52]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:03:53]:
It that with a microphone on the end of it.

Sam [00:03:55]:
And that means we can actually sit properly and have the microphone in front of our face.

Chris [00:03:59]:
I’ve given up sitting on the edge of this couch, and now I’m Holding my microphone, which I I

Sam [00:04:05]:
You’re doing an amazing no. You’re doing an amazing job because I can’t hear random sounds at the moment.

Chris [00:04:20]:
Things been going for you, Sam?

Sam [00:04:23]:
Pretty good. I ended up going with the Pippins group, which is like girl guide.

Chris [00:04:30]:
Oh, that’s like girl guides. Little little girl guides. Yeah.

Sam [00:04:33]:
Yeah. My daughter’s 6. So she goes to Pippins, then they go to Brownies, then they go to girl guides. So it was their last night. The other night for the year, and we ended up going to Extreme Edge, I think is what it’s called. I just had to think about that. Extreme edge indoor rock climbing. It was really cool.

Sam [00:04:51]:
Although when we turned up, the comment my daughter said to me was, oh, man. It’s not even real. So from there, I think she thought she’s gonna actually be climbing an actual rock face somewhere.

Chris [00:05:03]:
And, But she must have had fun when she got onto it.

Sam [00:05:07]:
Oh, it’s yeah. It was awesome. It’s just really cool because they are all self, I can’t remember what They, they hook themselves you hook the kid on and they climb, and then when they get to the top, they just jump off and it sort of lowers them down slowly. It’s automatic.

Chris [00:05:25]:
It’s automatic. They don’t have a belay person anymore.

Sam [00:05:28]:
Not for the kids. For adults, you have to have the belay person.

Chris [00:05:31]:
Alright.

Sam [00:05:31]:
But for the kids, because there’s, like, 25 walls that the kids can climb.

Chris [00:05:37]:
Right. Because I I went to it, It’s probably 12 years ago, so this is a long time ago. I was going out with a a a woman that had, 4 kids, and we went with the kids. And I love climbing the walls and playing all over the place. And, yeah, she just watched Hey. That’s awesome.

Sam [00:05:59]:
So all the walls are themed, and if you scroll through, you you can see the photos. And my daughter’s favorite one and the first one she went on and she Got a bit stuck at the top was the Tetris wall.

Chris [00:06:10]:
Oh, I see the Tetris wall. And she

Sam [00:06:12]:
just goes, I love the block wall. And she went up at Seven times, and she just keep trying and trying and trying, and it was so awesome to see her. She just because she’d jump off and she’d go, I had to jump off because my hands were hurting a little bit, but I have to keep going. I’ve gotta I I’ve got

Chris [00:06:28]:
to get to the top. Yeah.

Sam [00:06:29]:
She just honestly wasn’t tall enough to do the very last, like,

Chris [00:06:34]:
Alright. Okay. That looks awesome.

Sam [00:06:36]:
It was

Chris [00:06:37]:
And I think it’s a great confidence builder for kids. You know? It’s

Sam [00:06:39]:
Yeah. It was really good. And the instructor heat, It was really funny because when you’re in the Pippen slash girl guides and you help them out, you’ve got all these kids, like, 30 up to 30 kids all screaming and yelling and they’re very noisy. And do you know how you make them all quiet? You just raise your hand, and that’s the sign. And they all put their hands up and they all shut He goes, that’s awesome.

Chris [00:07:09]:
The power. I wish I could do that. I couldn’t do that as a trainer and a corporate when, when I’m dealing with adults.

Sam [00:07:16]:
But they know they know that’s the rule. So that’s they’re so used to it. You can do it anywhere, and they all just stop and put their hand up. But the really cool thing that the instructor Sid, which was really good. He said, look. Make them climb just a little bit and then get them to jump off so they understand how they come down slowly. Because if you make them climb to the top, they’ll freak out, and they won’t come down.

Chris [00:07:36]:
And they’ll be stuck there like a cat up a tree. Yeah. That’s awesome. If you can, see if you can put a couple of those photos on the show notes. Yeah. Yeah. Even the ones without your daughter and Yeah.

Sam [00:07:45]:
Yeah. Yeah. No. No. I’ve got I’ve got some good ones.

Chris [00:07:48]:
Yeah. So that’d be Very cool. Because those, themed walls that King Kong one looks good. It looks like it’d be pretty easy, but

Sam [00:07:55]:
The King Kong one’s really cool because it’s 2 people side by side, Are they a race?

Chris [00:07:59]:
Oh, nice. Yeah.

Sam [00:08:00]:
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And and but on the other side where the adults were because you imagine 1 person that worked there Trying to put 30 harnesses on all these kids, so it took a while. Man, there were some, extremely fit looking females. So what I wanna say? But they were doing some amazing rock climbing. Like, at one point, she’s upside down and then Her legs let go, and she’s just holding by her hands, and then she somehow flipped back around. And I was just like, what?

Chris [00:08:29]:
I know. I, the first time I ever went to one of these, and this is probably 15, maybe more years ago. Yeah. And it was a it was in Auckland somewhere, and it was a cinema, an old cinema that they’ve made into rock climbing all. And in the middle of the cinema now you know what sort of size I’m talking about with cinema.

Sam [00:08:49]:
Yeah. The middle

Chris [00:08:49]:
of cinema, in the ceiling is a bell. Yeah. And this guy went up, and he Crawls across the ceiling Yeah. Rings the bell, goes to the wall, touches the wall, runs across, rings the bell, goes back to the wall, and somebody goes, He’s going for the record. Yeah. And the record is, like, 13 times ringing the bell or something, and it was insane.

Sam [00:09:14]:
It’s probably more now.

Chris [00:09:15]:
Well, it probably is now. I mean, like, it’s 15 years ago, but it was just like Yeah. How is he clinging to the ceiling?

Sam [00:09:22]:
Oh, no.

Chris [00:09:22]:
That is unnatural. Road. You know? And it keeps stopping and shaking his arms out and stuff.

Sam [00:09:26]:
And One of the funny things my daughter said was because she had her little harness on, and she’s watching the people. And she said to me, What’s in the bag behind them that they keep putting their hand in? And I said, oh, it’s basically chalk powder so their hands don’t get sweaty and they can grip the rocks. She goes, that’s cool. When do they attach the bag to the back of our harnesses? And I said, I don’t think you need them. She’s, she’s a little bit disappointed in that.

Chris [00:09:53]:
Well, she’s, she’s paying attention, and she’s being observant,

Sam [00:09:57]:
which is all good. That’s crazy.

Chris [00:10:00]:
No. It’s cool. So what else is new? I I I was gonna mention something, actually. Tony Robbins’ booked launch. Have you seen it everywhere?

Sam [00:10:08]:
No. I I haven’t. I I’ve heard it on 1 podcast, and that’s it. I don’t think I’m hanging around in the same sort of circle Slash website, The New York.

Chris [00:10:16]:
Because I’ve heard it on 4 or 5 podcasts. Oh. He’s been a guest on Lewis Howes, Tim Ferris, I love marketing. Actually, just out of interest, Joe Polish behind I love marketing is the mind mastermind behind Tony Robbins book launch. Ah, okay. Why he’s got all those other people

Sam [00:10:38]:
in

Chris [00:10:38]:
there, because they all have podcasts of their own as well. So, you know, they will all be doing it. It’s been, in all these different groups that I’ve been on online and stuff. It was just everywhere. Yeah. So I bought it, and I was having a look.

Sam [00:10:53]:
Did you buy it locally or overseas or Amazon

Chris [00:10:56]:
on my Kindle. Oh. Yep. So there was a pre thing you could order in the hardcover book. And I almost did it because, you know, it’s just cost of shipping, so it would cost $20. I don’t know.

Sam [00:11:07]:
Something like that. Yeah.

Chris [00:11:09]:
But I ended up going, I’ll just get it on Kindle because I know I’ll read it on Kindle.

Sam [00:11:14]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:11:14]:
You know? Yeah. I I love my Kindle. So, yeah. So I got it. I I’m only I’m not even halfway through, actually, and I’ve been sidetracked by doing so many other things recently. But it the book’s really good. It’s really, really cool. I I’ve got his previous books, and his last book was 20 years ago that he wrote.

Chris [00:11:33]:
Yeah.

Sam [00:11:33]:
So Tony Robbins is the big motivational speaker guy you see on the TV all the time running down, high fiving everyone. Now I just wanna say that this book is Money. Is that right?

Chris [00:11:44]:
All about master the game. Yep.

Sam [00:11:46]:
All about money. And I think you can correct me if I’m wrong here. The gist of it is he He hung out with a lot of people that are experts with money or had success Yep. Over a it was quite a long period,

Chris [00:11:58]:
Oh, yeah. No. He’s got he’s got people that have been That are the top of the game in the in the money industry, if you like.

Sam [00:12:04]:
And and he’s written this book to try and teach you their secrets? Yep.

Chris [00:12:09]:
Yep. And so, yeah, he’s got a big story about how, he watched the financial crisis and all this. Oh, he watched a actually, I must look it up. It’s a documentary about the the crisis. And he said it would do 2 things for people. Either they would see that and they’d just be in absolute despair about how bad that has been and how badly people screwed it up, or they’d be like him, totally annoyed, Pissed off, basically. Yeah. And he went, we’ve gotta do something about this.

Chris [00:12:41]:
We can’t have this going on. You know? It’s because The the people that made this happen through being greedy or whatever, their punishment was they got a lot of money Nave the tax

Sam [00:12:52]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Chris [00:12:53]:
And gave it back to them and said, fix it. Yeah. Do more of what you were doing. Like, it’s just crazy. So so he said He he knew people and, you know, he’s, well connected, obviously. And so he, got into all these different financial groups and fund managers and all the rest of it. But there’s some amazing things in there, like and I used to sell superannuation funds for Prudential years years years ago.

Sam [00:13:17]:
Yep.

Chris [00:13:17]:
And I knew the fees were pretty high Yeah. Because we did a, zero fees for staff.

Sam [00:13:25]:
Right? Oh, wow.

Chris [00:13:25]:
So I got one of those. But, you know, every percentage so if if you and I started off with the same amount of money,

Sam [00:13:32]:
we were

Chris [00:13:32]:
at a 100,000 or a A million or whatever. We threw it in there. It got the same rate of return, but your fees were 3% in my fees were 1%. Yep. Difference is I’d have 60% more money than you at the end.

Sam [00:13:44]:
It’s crazy.

Chris [00:13:46]:
It’s insane. So, anyways, it’s a really good book. So I, I thought I’d I’d mention it, but I was I was just as interested in the way it’s launched. It’s just gone everywhere, and he’s really selling it through social media, Oh, yeah. Totally. And you’ve gotta give away information. And, you know, that content and information is what Tony Robbins has been about his whole career. And, yeah, I I Know quite a bit about the Tony Robbins stuff.

Chris [00:14:18]:
I’ve been through a lot of stuff, listened to his courses, and all that sort of thing. So, yeah, it’s good to see him back.

Sam [00:14:23]:
Very good. What is it?

Chris [00:14:24]:
Oh, and, oh, there was 1 quote out of the book. I gotta

Sam [00:14:26]:
say it like it was something else.

Chris [00:14:28]:
Yeah. Louis Louis Agassiz is, It’s quoted, so Tony Robbins always puts quotes at the beginning of chapters and all that sort of stuff through the text. There’s one that is I love this. It was like, I can’t afford to waste my time making money, and that resonated with me so much. I’m like, I’ve gotta go to work to make money to pay the bills, But I have so much important stuff like this podcast, for example Yeah. That I need to get done, like, the book we’re working on, the film stuff we’re working on, none of which is I expect to make any money from, to be honest. No. But it’s like you know, that’s the stuff that actually lasts.

Sam [00:15:05]:
Actually, a couple of podcasts ago, we were talking about if people their job? Yep. If you remember that. And I thought of a quote, and I know what category we fit in, And it’s, are you working to live or you’re living to work?

Chris [00:15:21]:
Yeah. So we’re working to live.

Sam [00:15:23]:
Yeah. Like this podcast and film stuff and other non nonpaying things. Hopefully, they’re gonna pay at some point. Yeah. Yeah. So it goes goes a long way with that track.

Chris [00:15:52]:
Yeah. That makes much more sense. And yeah. No. You’re right. That is the thing. There’s always things that I’m trying to do, and, Yes. I know.

Chris [00:16:01]:
I overdo it a little bit sometimes, but there you go. It’s good fun.

Sam [00:16:05]:
Yeah. Yeah.

Chris [00:16:05]:
Yeah. You gotta do everything you can while you’re alive. And as you get older, you realize the time’s getting Shorter.

Sam [00:16:10]:
Yeah. That’s right. So are you much of a coffee drinker?

Chris [00:16:16]:
I am. I, don’t Haven’t been drinking as much these days, but, yes, I Well, I notice it if I miss a bit.

Sam [00:16:27]:
Really? I I just I don’t. I don’t like coffee. They pick up people always say, can I offer you a coffee or would you I was like, no? And I thought I don’t drink. Actually, I hardly drink hot drinks, to be honest.

Chris [00:16:39]:
Yeah. Well, see, I don’t like, I don’t really like instant coffee.

Sam [00:16:43]:
No. No. No. I I I understand that, and I understand roasted and all that.

Chris [00:16:47]:
So Trim lettuce.

Sam [00:16:48]:
So you’d be you’d be on the bullet you’d be keen to get a bulletproof coffee.

Chris [00:16:53]:
What on earth is a bulletproof coffee?

Sam [00:16:56]:
It’s the latest craze in the coffee world to hit New Zealand. And if you read the comments, we are about 2 to 3 years behind everyone else. So what do you oh, no. What do you think is in a Bulletproof coffee.

Chris [00:17:12]:
Kevlar? I don’t know.

Sam [00:17:15]:
It’s gonna be hard to swallow.

Chris [00:17:17]:
Yeah. I reckon. I have no idea. I just bought

Sam [00:17:20]:
a quick

Chris [00:17:21]:
coffee.

Sam [00:17:21]:
It’s a strong espresso with coconut oil, unsalted butter, and a hint of natural vanilla. How’s that how’s that strike you?

Chris [00:17:29]:
You can’t I am going to go to Urge tomorrow, and I am gonna ask if they do a Bulletproof coffee. Actually, what’s tomorrow, Friday. Maybe I won’t make it tomorrow, but

Sam [00:17:38]:
Actually, yeah. Go and ask wherever you go get your normal coffee from. Yeah. And, And, it’ll be interesting.

Chris [00:17:43]:
Oh, no. I could I I know the guys at Urge quite well, and I could go in and say, do you make bulletproof coffee? No. Here’s the recipe. You need to start making it, and they will.

Sam [00:17:51]:
Yeah. Just tell him to check out the stuff article. Yeah. Yeah. So, apparently, if you’re, very fit, it’s reasonably good for Like, it’s okay, but a lot of people are saying it’s not that healthy due to the butter and coconut oil and other bits and pieces. So

Chris [00:18:10]:
No. It’s not like coffee’s really healthy to begin with, to be honest with you. You know?

Sam [00:18:15]:
So, anyway, check out the article on stuff. I’ll link to it on the show notes. And check out some of the funny 125 comments below. People are arguing for and against it, And, it’s really good. Actually,

Chris [00:18:28]:
talking about, comments, are we gonna talk about the same thing? Have you seen the does New Zealand have a garden?

Sam [00:18:35]:
No. Not it? Really? Oh, no. I know what I I understand what that is. My real quick thing was The comment system on stuffs, is, run by a big multi international company Yeah. And they got hacked. Did you know that the other day?

Chris [00:18:50]:
No. No. No.

Sam [00:18:51]:
And they had to shut down all the comments on, like, all these websites. So pretty much every news website uses this company and stuff was affected, and now they’re all back up online.

Chris [00:19:00]:
Alright. But on Reddit Yes. On Reddit, there was, somebody went, I know you’re gonna make fun

Sam [00:19:07]:
And it was in the

Chris [00:19:08]:
abuse me or something.

Sam [00:19:09]:
And it was in the, New Zealand New Zealand read sub Reddit. Yeah.

Chris [00:19:12]:
Yeah.

Sam [00:19:13]:
I’m gonna find it.

Chris [00:19:14]:
And, basically, yeah. And They said, but is it true that it’s illegal to have a garden in New Zealand? And then all these smart ass New Zealanders are like, don’t talk about that. And it was so it is actually quite funny.

Sam [00:19:27]:
I see it. How everyone went through the, The the great

Chris [00:19:31]:
I can’t even Remember it. It’s a couple of days ago since I read it. I’m

Sam [00:19:34]:
just trying to find

Chris [00:19:35]:
the so funny.

Sam [00:19:36]:
Here we go.

Chris [00:19:37]:
You can can you link to it in the show notes? I spent, I think, an hour reading that thing, and I didn’t finish it.

Sam [00:19:51]:
No. But that’s what that’s what you end up doing on Reddit. You just start reading all these

Chris [00:19:55]:
why I don’t go on Reddit. I know. But Reddit is where Sam gets all his information before everybody else.

Sam [00:20:05]:
Yeah. It’s yeah. If you if you wanna keep up and be on the ball with most stuff that’s happening anywhere, go to Reddit And pick a few good subreddits, and then 2 days later, you’ll see it on the news. And the next day, you’ll see it on stuff, and that’s all they seem to be doing.

Chris [00:20:21]:
Yeah. Yep. Oh, and TrueBridge. That was a big thing.

Sam [00:20:25]:
So, I’m looking I’m looking blankly at him as he’s telling me this.

Chris [00:20:29]:
What’s his first name, Daniel? I can’t remember.

Sam [00:20:32]:
Yes. I was gonna talk to you about this. The free diver.

Chris [00:20:35]:
The free diver. So he’s going to break the world record. He had a world record record at a 101 meters.

Sam [00:20:42]:
What do you tell me what you think about this. Go. Go.

Chris [00:20:45]:
Okay. So there’s a couple of things. We were talking about it the other day at work. Tree. It wasn’t that long ago, maybe 5 years ago.

Sam [00:20:55]:
Oh, okay.

Chris [00:20:55]:
And they were breaking the world record at 60 meters.

Sam [00:20:59]:
Okay.

Chris [00:20:59]:
And somebody said a 100 meters Will never happen. It’s impossible. The human body won’t

Sam [00:21:04]:
do it.

Chris [00:21:05]:
So True Bridge is all and and and in this doco, apparently, somebody beat somebody else’s record by a meter And sent them a meter long piece of string Yeah. As as a, you know, This is how much I beat you by. Anyway, you know, TruBridge, there was a lot of hype. Yeah. Apparently, he failed to in a training dive, failed to get 93 meters earlier in the week.

Sam [00:21:31]:
You are okay. You were telling me a whole bunch of information I don’t know. Yeah. That’s good. It’s changing my opinion a little bit.

Chris [00:21:37]:
Because he’d had a cold or I’m not quite sure what it was, and that was why he was a bit iffy. But there was so much hype behind it with the because Steinlager was sponsoring it. And they everywhere.

Sam [00:21:49]:
I find it bizarre.

Chris [00:21:50]:
The Steinlager was

Sam [00:21:51]:
I transferring? Yeah. I find that really weird. I find the hype around it really weird. I Yeah. I thought it was good that he was going for a world record, and Then when I realized it was his own record and he’s already held 15 world records, I was just I don’t care. Yeah. If he was trying to beat an Australian or an American, yep. Nah.

Sam [00:22:09]:
Would have been good.

Chris [00:22:10]:
Yeah. I I my take on that

Sam [00:22:13]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:22:14]:
Sorry. Won’t move Yeah. Yeah. Moment when I talk again. My take on that is that he needed sponsorship. Yeah. Steinlegger sponsored him. Yep.

Chris [00:22:24]:
They put in 1 hell of a major media campaign because it was on the It

Sam [00:22:29]:
was every it was

Chris [00:22:29]:
on the even the movies. It was at the cinema on the trailers. List.

Sam [00:22:33]:
It was on the billboard in Huntley.

Chris [00:22:35]:
It was everywhere. And, you know, and I actually feel sorry for him because if he did start feeling a bit sake. Beforehand, there’s no stopping that media machine.

Sam [00:22:44]:
No. Yeah. No. No. You can, Scott. I’m not gonna do it today, guys.

Chris [00:22:47]:
Yeah. Because they had

Sam [00:22:48]:
it I think they were talking about, like, 3 months ago.

Chris [00:22:51]:
Exactly. Because

Sam [00:22:51]:
it was broadcast live on TV.

Chris [00:22:53]:
Was a bit ill. He would have had to go through with it.

Sam [00:22:55]:
Did you?

Chris [00:22:56]:
I did. That’s not the sort of stuff that you take lightly. Like, that is No. Edge of existence stuff there.

Sam [00:23:05]:
I found it weird That oh, it was good that he had to grab the flag at the bottom of the rope, but I found it weird that he had to tie it to his Ankle? Because I thought that would waste a few precious seconds, possibly.

Chris [00:23:19]:
I think they have to do something speculative At the bottom, that was the whole point. They have to do something that shows that they’ve cognizant and stuff.

Sam [00:23:28]:
Did you hear about the random what he had to do to get the record? How they work it out? Because he he he was about to pass out 20 meters from the top from the surface. Yeah. And he gave the head nod. That’s what it said. He nodded. And that means the divers knew he was something’s wrong. So he grabbed the rope, and then they sort of brought him to the surface. Yeah.

Sam [00:23:50]:
But to get the record, they have to come up out of the water, give a thumbs up, okay signal with their hand. They have to Be asked if they’re okay and then stay conscious for the next 30 minutes. Yeah. Then they can get the record. Yeah. It’s Nog. Because Easy.

Chris [00:24:07]:
It because if you you come up and then you die

Sam [00:24:10]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:24:11]:
And you hold the record, then somebody else will go, fuck. I I don’t really need to live. I I’ll go and break that record.

Sam [00:24:17]:
Oh.

Chris [00:24:17]:
So yeah. No. You’ve gotta do, these cognizant things. He,

Sam [00:24:22]:
he was He said to the media, he’ll probably have another attempt in 6 months. Yeah. But I think

Chris [00:24:30]:
I don’t know if you’ll still have the sponsor. I

Sam [00:24:32]:
don’t think, yeah, Steinlager will send him a 12 pack and say, good on you, mate. You know? Unfortunately

Chris [00:24:39]:
It is good on him, and it it’s good to shine the spotlight every now and again on those guys that are doing amazing things that most people don’t know.

Sam [00:24:46]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:24:46]:
You have you have you have Huey that’s doing a great thing.

Sam [00:24:49]:
You have changed my opinion to a bit better today.

Chris [00:24:54]:
Alright. I

Sam [00:24:54]:
was a bit I was very against it. I just I put I put that on Twitter the other day, and I had, like, I had about 7 people agree with me, and only 1 person was going on about how great it was. Yeah.

Chris [00:25:08]:
I mean And don’t get me wrong.

Sam [00:25:09]:
I don’t wanna take away from it at all. I think it was probably the media side of it that I thought was crazy as opposed to the actual, what he was doing.

Chris [00:25:18]:
And that That is interesting because that media side of it right. So alcohol, specifically Yeah. Has been squeezed. You know? Yep. They they can’t do it on the the films now, and they can’t do it on TV, and they can’t do all this.

Sam [00:25:32]:
That’s

Chris [00:25:32]:
But they can do this sponsorship on a person and just put them supported by a Steinlacher or something. I don’t know how they got around it, but they did, obviously. So, you know, presumably, they’ve got a a crapload of money marketing money that have been able to spend in other ways, and and so they just blowed.

Sam [00:25:50]:
Would they be able easily work out their rate of return on that.

Chris [00:25:56]:
I think they would get have some stats. I don’t know how curate, they’d be. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Be some stats that that that that they had turned to. There’s always metrics, but, again, how accurate those metrics Baron

Sam [00:26:08]:
It’d be interesting to see if Steinlager are slowly, maybe even new in New Zealand terms become the Red Bull Of sponsoring for these random things.

Chris [00:26:21]:
Yeah.

Sam [00:26:21]:
Because Red Bulls and everything. Yeah.

Chris [00:26:23]:
Yeah. I know. I know exactly what you’re saying. I I yeah. It it’s it’s a good call because I know Steinlager did huge, huge things out out of the original, you know, America’s Cup when America’s Cup was night.

Sam [00:26:35]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:26:35]:
Like it was it was brand building.

Sam [00:26:37]:
Are you upset they’re going to Bermuda?

Chris [00:26:41]:
I’m not Upset upset about anything to do with America’s Game? I don’t really care about it anymore.

Sam [00:26:46]:
Well, they they they one of the commentators is now saying that, think Grant Dalton said something a bit random at the media conference, and they’ve picked that to mean possibly the, what’s the word do I wanna say? To find out if you’re in the America’s Cup, they might hold that in Auckland.

Chris [00:27:03]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The the, Challenger’s Cup. Yeah. Challenger’s Cup? Something like that. So, yeah, they’re they’re aiming to try and get the Challenger’s Cup in New Zealand, and that would be cool. That would be huge bonus for Ross.

Chris [00:27:16]:
It would. Team New Zealand almost need that to happen because the government’s not gonna help fund Team New Zealand. Do you know how much they are looking for for for

Sam [00:27:24]:
I wanna say 300 odd

Chris [00:27:26]:
It’s a $100,000,000. Oh, I

Sam [00:27:28]:
thought it was 300.

Chris [00:27:29]:
The campaign

Sam [00:27:30]:
campaign. But Stephen Joyce was,

Chris [00:27:40]:
from the government.

Sam [00:27:42]:
Yes. That

Chris [00:27:43]:
might be it.

Sam [00:27:44]:
That might

Chris [00:27:44]:
be it. I’m not sure. But, but, yeah, that’s a ridiculous amount of money. And the only way it’s gonna be worthwhile for New Zealand is if a a significant portion of it is is here. Yeah.

Sam [00:27:55]:
Did you

Chris [00:27:55]:
hear a big come come Did

Sam [00:27:57]:
you hear about the, the the the negative spin on the Bermuda thing?

Chris [00:28:02]:
Oh, what? There’s only Hotel

Sam [00:28:04]:
hotels. Oh, 200 beds.

Chris [00:28:07]:
No. It’s it’s 200 hotels with 2 no. It’s 2,000 beds, I thought they said.

Sam [00:28:12]:
Said, oh, the thing I heard, and I’m sure it doesn’t sound right, was 200 beds. I’m sure it must be more.

Chris [00:28:18]:
Yeah. No. I think it was 2,000 beds.

Sam [00:28:20]:
Yeah. That makes way more sense.

Chris [00:28:22]:
But even so, that’s that’s not a lot. You know? That’s enough for the cast and crew and the the the trainers and the engineers, and, there’s no spectators there.

Sam [00:28:30]:
Like, No.

Chris [00:28:31]:
That’s crazy.

Sam [00:28:31]:
It’s it’ll be interesting. They’re slightly smaller boats.

Chris [00:28:33]:
But they were saying they were gonna put cruise line, and so we’d just dock off there and you’d have Yeah.

Sam [00:28:39]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:28:39]:
So So that that would be

Sam [00:28:41]:
That’d be good.

Chris [00:28:42]:
Good for the cruise line industry.

Sam [00:28:44]:
Oh, because they need all the money they can get because they, you know, they’re You know, they’re releasing these massive boats that just travel around the world nonstop. But, you know

Chris [00:28:53]:
There would be I mean, if if you’re gonna watch America’s Cup doing it from a cruise, man.

Sam [00:28:58]:
Party. Be good. That’d be pretty cool, actually. Yeah.

Chris [00:29:01]:
Yeah. But yeah. So, I’m not overly fast about It was like,

Sam [00:29:07]:
I think We had that we had that we had that amazing opportunity.

Chris [00:29:10]:
We won it once, didn’t we? So that

Sam [00:29:13]:
Back in the day.

Chris [00:29:13]:
Sort of, We’ll just leave it at that.

Sam [00:29:16]:
Yeah. And we should have won it.

Chris [00:29:17]:
Oh, what about New Zealand Soccer’s big plan to, holiday. Market soccer to be the game of New Zealanders.

Sam [00:29:25]:
Oh, is that what they’re gonna do?

Chris [00:29:27]:
Not exactly, but it’s something like that. And so all we gotta do is Start winning games and maybe, you know, get into a World Cup and win the World Cup, and and it will be. Dude, if we win the World Cup in soccer, I can guarantee you there will be a lot of support from New Zealanders for a long time coming. The chance of that actually happening, if that’s your plan, You need to look at the plan.

Sam [00:29:49]:
Yeah. Good good luck with all that.

Chris [00:29:53]:
But yeah. I I’ve I’ve got nothing really against n Soccer, but it’s yeah. It’s gotta be I don’t know. They’ve gotta spice that up quite a bit. It’s just not very exciting.

Sam [00:30:05]:
No. No.

Chris [00:30:07]:
You don’t care either? No. I’m just getting tired. Well, I mean, Lydia Ko has done so well for golf.

Sam [00:30:15]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:30:15]:
And in New Zealand. So

Sam [00:30:16]:
how they randomly find some more Asian kids that are younger than her that they found in Auckland that seemed to be the next thing. Have you seen that?

Chris [00:30:23]:
No. I haven’t, but I’m not surprised. So golf is a a huge thing in Asia, but it’s so expensive.

Sam [00:30:30]:
That’s where they play in the middle of Knight.

Chris [00:30:32]:
Yeah. Yeah. It was you that told me about that. Yeah. Somebody told me about that, and I think it was you. That yes. So they, You know, they run the golf courses 24 hours a day because there’s so many people, so few golf courses and, you know And I

Sam [00:30:45]:
think we’ve got, I think per population, we’ve got the most golf courses

Chris [00:30:50]:
of anywhere in the world.

Sam [00:30:51]:
Quite pro because they’re everywhere. People just They’re in paddocks, and they’re sheep wandering around.

Chris [00:30:55]:
So we do. We have a lot of Asian people, immigrating to New Zealand, which is cool. Yeah. And so they wanna play golf, and it It’s a big status symbol. You know? They can go back and go, oh, my kids play golf, you know, when they they probably don’t say it there, but, when they send it back to, to to China, so or or Japan or wherever, Korea or or any of the Asian trees. It’s it’s quite as a set of symbols, so I’m not surprised that there’s a lot of young Asian

Sam [00:31:25]:
Oh, I think I think young just young people in general.

Chris [00:31:28]:
I don’t know. It’s because golf has never been something that you know, it’s not something in my family. Right? So I never knew anybody when I was a kid that played golf. Like, really?

Sam [00:31:38]:
Yeah. You could say that with lots of different things, though.

Chris [00:31:40]:
Yeah. I guess. Yeah. But I always always thought of golf as an older person’s sport Growing up, you know, like, tennis was a younger person sport. Golfers and old person. Yeah. You know? I don’t know. Anyway, so that’s probably it for us for today.

Chris [00:31:55]:
Yeah. Another one that went really quickly.

Sam [00:31:58]:
We’re just getting too good at this sort of thing.

Chris [00:32:00]:
Yeah. Well, hopefully, hopefully, you guys are finding it interesting out there.

Sam [00:32:03]:
But make sure to drop us a line, Facebook page, Twitter, or on the website. Share it with anyone that might be keen to have a listen. Yes.

Chris [00:32:13]:
We got some exciting things coming

Sam [00:32:15]:
up. We do. We can’t say anything.

Chris [00:32:18]:
Yes. I know. Signing off.

Sam [00:32:29]:
Yep. Until next time. I’m Sam.

Chris [00:32:31]:
And I’m Chris. And this

Sam [00:32:33]:
has been the Chris and Sam podcast episode number 11. See you. See you.