Summary
Sam is still sick, and Chris is shattered from all the work he’s been doing lately. Chris is also mistaken for Sam this week.
Apple vision is announced this week, we give our expert view on this. The WEL Energy Trust board elections are coming up.
We talk about the moon some more as well as scientists coming up with a cheap blood pressure monitor, new high temperatures in a tokamak.
We also talk first aid courses and so much more.
Links
Apple Vision Announced
Low Cost Blood Pressure Monitor
High Energy in Fusion Reactor
Show Transcript
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Sam [00:00:23]:
Hello, and welcome to episode 433 of the Christmas podcast. I’m Chris. And I’m Sam. Welcome along to another week of me being sick, randomness technology in life. Yeah. They sound a little bit croaky there, mate. I cannot get I don’t know what’s I’ve done a COVID test. Apparently, I don’t have that. I I don’t know. I feel I’m so bloody exhausted. I
Chris [00:00:47]:
don’t know. We’ll see. Yeah. I I I’m I’m absolutely bugged as well. And and but there’s a really — I mean, listen to that. I I’ve been working really, really hard. We we had some stuff come up, and it was, like, this is work I’ve been working on for, like, off and on for 6 months effectively. And then all of it had to be done at once. And so I had to do different I’m gonna mention this because there’s a point to this. Alright. I had to do a different thing about the regulatory building thing in each state of Australia, 8 states. Right? So that’s cool. I’m going through and halfway through. I get to Queensland, and it’s just doing my head in. And I was like, alright. I’ll leave that to the end. And so then I did all the rest. Got them all and they’re all the same but different. Like, they’ll have different names for building permit, building authority, construction certificate are all the same thing, but in different states. They have different names to the same thing, basically. Of course. Of course. And basically, there’s a few small changes, but everybody’s the same. You’ve gotta get an approval to build there. Like, that’s called a developing approval development approval. And then you’ve got a building permit, which shows you what you’ll so it tells you what you can and can’t build, and then how to build it, you know, that you’re doing it in a safe way. That makes sense. Except for Queensland because in Queensland, like — What are they? they don’t have a state rules. The state rules basically say go and talk to your council. Every council does it differently, and they have a state guideline that says, basically, you can just do whatever the hell you like because you can hire these people who are building certifiers, and they do it. And I’m just like, this is the most corrupt state ever because There’s even though all these warnings that if you’re gonna buy a house in Queensland, do make sure you get a you check the the council to make sure that this final building inspection was done because one of the laws in in Queensland, everywhere else, pretty much. You have to have a certificate of occupancy or a building certificate to save. The building’s safe, and you can live in it. You can’t live in it unless you got the certificate. in Queensland, you can move there if it’s your building and and you haven’t got a a safety built certificate. That’s fine. there’s no problem with that. But if you sell it, it becomes a problem. So people live there for 10 years and they sell it. They don’t even remember. And then yeah. it’s just I just thought Queensland is the most corrupt state of Australia, just on that basis. Like, not on the basis. Just on that basis. Yeah. Okay. And I wondered, what do you think would be the most corrupt area in New Zealand?
Sam [00:03:42]:
Auckland. Yeah? I reckon I don’t know. It’s hard to say. I don’t no. Palmston North maybe, and it’s it’s a shame. Like, I know people give Hamilton Shade, but Parmesan North is the real
Chris [00:03:57]:
— because it it really is it’s that whole when you know that you get things done because of who you know rather than because of the rules, that’s to me, that’s the that’s the sign of corruption. Right? And, yeah, I just I wonder. And and you’re right. Sometimes, it could be a big city, but I think more often, it’s a smaller city because bigger cities sort of need rules to function. Yeah. Yeah. That’s my opinion, anyway. I I was just curious. Anyway, what else have you been? And this is me. I’m I’ve I’ve I’m a bit shattered this week, but I did 10 hours on on Monday and 12 hours on Sunday. And it’s not like I started work at 5 and finished at 5. That’s like I started work at 5, and I finished at 8:30, and I had some hours and breaks in between somewhere on that.
Sam [00:04:46]:
I would like to tell you that I’ve done some stuff, but I have not done anything. My goal my goal before I got this cold or disease or whatever I’ve got was to go out and some smash out some kilometers and just get a little bit fitter in preparation for field days next week. I was gonna be in top form for field days next week. That’s my goal. That’s out the window. I’m gonna be huffing and puffing I’m gonna have to bring some energy drinks. And if I fall asleep somewhere, well, that’s what happens.
Chris [00:05:19]:
Yeah. We’re we’re interviewing a different person 2 from the one we were planned on interviewing.
Sam [00:05:25]:
Same company. Same company, the founder. That’s all. I don’t even know what it’s about. So that does mean that means nothing to me. Well, you’ll be pleased to know that I’ve done all the research. Good. I’m like, I have done no research. I’m gonna stand in the background and pretend I don’t know you as I wear the exact same shirt as you. But, you know,
Chris [00:05:48]:
Yeah. No. That’s cool. No. We’ll we’ll be fine. We’ll be fine. Actually, I Yeah. Yeah. Did you that just reminded me. Did you have you you you remember Michelle Howie?
Sam [00:06:01]:
Yes.
Chris [00:06:02]:
Have you seen her post on Mother Ruckers? No. So she’s got this community thing, she’s starting, local community thing, people going for walks with rucksacks.
Sam [00:06:15]:
Alright. yeah, you talking about doing the case. Yeah. That’s what reminded me. I read about that today. I signed up to her random newsletter, the random one. Yeah. You can. She’s a very interesting person, but seems to be all over the place.
Chris [00:06:30]:
Yes. Yes. She’s she’s cool. I like her, but, yeah, you’re right. It’s Not a lot of rhyme nor reason. I can get some good feedback on my newsletter too, plug the disc at a time. Yeah. That is. Go. Yeah. No. I got some good feedback from Karl on this one. I had to ask him, actually, because he goes, oh, I started reading, and I got busy because, you know, obviously, he’s been busy with work as well. So I read it today because I wanted to to repost that in LinkedIn. So yeah. So, yeah, I’m getting some he said that was very much my voice, that last one. Yeah. So — Talking of Karl, we got feedback from him today
Sam [00:07:06]:
about last week’s podcast episode. Yeah. Absolutely. Actually, So that’s good. The main point is he stands up to p.
Chris [00:07:15]:
He’s a gizzy pro, man. That’s right. That’s right. And I don’t think I don’t think Gizzy is corrupt just for the record. I don’t think it is. No. No. I don’t think so. Like, they’re probably
Sam [00:07:27]:
struggling. in general?
Chris [00:07:30]:
No. Yeah. Actually, I do want us to talk about one thing. So yesterday, I went to Hamilton. Basically, we finished our hit our deadlines yesterday or except one thing I had to finish, and I did this morning. So I went to Hamilton. So I have been to everyone so far, still, the only person that has done that. Are you gonna get a little award? Yeah. Do you get a little award? They they keep saying, Oh, yeah. I remember your name’s Sam. And I’m like, no. I’m Chris from the Chris and Sam podcast.
Sam [00:08:01]:
315 me, Sam. No. No. No. I don’t like that. No.
Chris [00:08:09]:
You should see the look of disgust on Sam’s face right now. Like, yeah. Yeah. I’m Sam. That’s that’s how I look. So so it was good? Yeah. No. It was great. It was great. I I’m really a big fan of Joel Vince. Never heard of I I reckon he will come at, like, hit the big time. I reckon he will. He’s he’s really, really good at that deadpan comedy and acting regardless of what the audience is doing, which is quite often groaning, which is because he’s made them groan. Yeah. He’s really, really good. I’m I’m very Very impressed with Joel. But, yeah, no, it was good. And it’s good to see them trying out some new material, some of the other guys. Some of it hit, some of it didn’t, but it was you know, it’s it’s cool. It’s all part of the all part of the scene. Right? So Yep. It was a little bit of a quieter night last night. Don’t know whether it’s just chilly in the air, although it’s been really fine. I actually walked there and back because I needed that — Nice. — that exercise after sitting around. Anyway, I wanted to talk about real quickly Go. Apple Googles. Well, I don’t think that’s what they call them, do they? It’s Apple Vision. Apple Vision. Yeah. Somebody said it looks like black mirror. It looks like something had a black mirror, and I’m like, It — Yes. It does. No. It it looks identical to the goggles in ready player 1. Oh, yeah. I have to I have to see that again because I can’t remember. No. No. There’s a comparison shot. It literally
Sam [00:09:43]:
looks like they’ve just copied it.
Chris [00:09:45]:
I got a few notes here. I I wanted to mention about it. So — Yeah. This is mostly thanks to Marcus Brownley. I don’t know if you’ve seen his video on it. Yeah. I did watch that video because that’s what I was gonna talk to you about. Okay. Alright. Alright. So yeah. So it’s 3 and a half grand US, which is yeah, a lot. Let’s face it a lot. I mean, my car is not worth that. So — No. No. No. It is 1st gen, though. Yeah. And then yeah. And that’s — That’s what they normally do. it’s misaligned quite heavy, and that’s easy to forget because It looks like it’s transparent, but it’s not. No. That’s creepy. Aye. Yeah. It’s so creepy. It wasn’t till he sat down. I was like, Oh, because I thought it was a glass that became opaque. Yeah. Yeah. But, no, it’s on the outside, it’s got a screen showing your eyes, which is cameras on the inside are looking at. So many cameras. Yeah. And and then when you go isolated. So augmented reality, you’re not actually seeing the world you’re seeing what the camera is showing you — Yes. — which means In a way, so augmented reality or the pass through feature on the Quest 2 that I have is black and white. So Yeah. Doesn’t feel very you you don’t feel like you’re there. Right? No. No. No. You click that, and you you can see enough to navigate through the room if you have to. but you you you don’t feel like you’re there. Whereas in this thing, it will feel like you’re there because it’s full color, Yeah. And then when things pop up in that world, you can’t tell the difference because they’re both digital. It’s not — Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it’ll be quite good. So I I think it’d be quite interesting.
Sam [00:11:32]:
I like how he was saying how, like because he and he he reviews a whole bunch of stuff. He gets first hand dibs on almost everything this guy. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Sure. And he was like, it’s not often he uses the word magic, but the way it tracks your pupils and what you’re looking at. Yeah. And you can just look. And that’s interesting because Elon Musk has now been granted the ability to put chip inside a human’s head. And if you’ve seen that about the monkey, Elon’s talking, and he goes, oh, this monkey’s got the chip in it. and he’s just thinking about what he wants to select and is doing it. And I was like, would I rather have a camera looking at my pupil and me just picking it or Elon Musk putting a chip in my brain. Beep, the chip in my brain, I like, but it’s then you go, Who owns the chip? And what’s the chip telling them? No. I no. No. I I’d rather go with just the camera looking at my eyeballs. Yeah. And the other thing just to finish on this Apple thing was when he was talking about the ability to wear them and you can record something and it’s recording it stereostopically, like, super realistic, and that dad is videoing their birthday. So — — googles on, and it just clicks. Let’s and creep your Yeah. It’s creep. Yes. So if you play it back, it’s like you were there, which is cool. But Everybody else has to deal with you just with goggles on, just South Park will already be making an episode about this. I know. I know. I know. I know. — see it. I had exactly the same thought. I just thought of it, Dan. Stan Marshall will probably end up buying it. Ignore the whole family, and he’ll just be wandering around.
Chris [00:13:17]:
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I do wanna mention a couple other things. So one of the things that I didn’t expect I didn’t think about was the 2 hour battery life. for a 3 and a half $1000 thing. But that that was like, okay.
Sam [00:13:31]:
Again, you’re right. It’s 1st gen. Yeah. But the battery is not connected to the headset because it’ll break the leg. Yeah. Yeah. So you’ve got this battery pack, which you can, like — On a cable. — plug into the mains. But yeah. That you put in your pocket or whatever. So that that was one thing. And the other thing,
Chris [00:13:47]:
there’s no hectic feedback. So I use the oculus all the time, and it vibrates like a game controller does. You know how has that vibrates? You do 2 controllers the way. I do have 2 controllers. Yeah. Apple doesn’t. You got fingers. No controllers for the Apple. Yeah. But it just means one less input. Not saying that the oculus or the gamer controllers are the bee’s knees. Like, they’re they’re not perfect either. Yeah. Yeah. But it’s it’s one level less of input coming back. And for gamer, that’s really useful. So my ultimate thing from from watching that was it still feels like this is a solution in search of its problem. It doesn’t know what it is yet. It’s really only gonna be for developers to play with, and somebody’s gonna, hopefully, come up with a brilliant idea that’s not been done before and knock it out of the park, and it’ll be the go to thing. Yep. but they don’t know what that is yet. So — No. No. No. — may never happen or somebody may, you know, do something amazing. Yeah. Yeah. We’ll see how it goes. Yeah. Anyway so I thought that was really good interesting info. Another thing I wanted just taking over, mate. You bet. Another thing I wanted to talk about real brief we talked about Jonathan Neb’s last week with his walking — Running. Running. Running. Running. Running? Yeah. Through Canada or whatever it was. Yeah. this week, his brother, I I just thought I’d do a bit of a yell out because he he con contacted me. And I said, yep. Yep. I’ll I’ll certainly do that. The Will Energy Trust — Then hang on. He specifically said, can you talk about this on the podcast? No. No. He just no. He didn’t talk about it in the podcast. No. Good. Jesus. Will will you vote for me? basically, that’s what he said. Yeah. So he’s he’s on the well energy trust, and Thomas is a fantastic guy, really good guy. He runs the water boy and an associated charities, so and they help kids, basically. is really nice guy, and he is on the ballot for the Well Energy Trust. So if you happen to be in the Waikato and you get those voting papers, I’d consider
Sam [00:16:03]:
voting for Thomas. There’s a as always, there’s a few Randos. If you look at that list of Rando people,
Chris [00:16:10]:
Yeah. I didn’t vote use all my 7 votes. I was a little bit I mean, I got Jamie Strange was the only one I really knew.
Sam [00:16:20]:
Vicky love Vicky Revlich, whatever her last name is. I’m gonna screw her last name up. She’s in there, and she’s the woman that we use as a judge for the making at the pumpkin carnival. And she — I didn’t like that. She’s she made her own, like, magazine and her whole own industry. Like, she’s pretty clever in that regard. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
Chris [00:16:43]:
Yeah. I I I yeah. I did my I’ve I’ve already posted mine in. Anyway,
Sam [00:16:50]:
that’s super efficient of you. This are you okay?
Chris [00:16:55]:
I knew that if I didn’t know, I’d forget. So and and that was part of my long walk the other day. BMW, Have you heard about this BMW i four trial?
Sam [00:17:06]:
What’s i four trial?
Chris [00:17:08]:
The New Zealand police, sir, trialing the — Oh, yeah. — electric BMW i Four. Yeah. So the BMW i Four is an electric vehicle, which is a a a police thing, they’re trialing it. And I’m just I I can’t remember because I watched the video. I’m gonna it looks real cool. It’s a nice looking car. Yeah.
Sam [00:17:29]:
A a year is that a 1 year trial? That’s what they usually do, isn’t it? Something like that. I’ve gone with that one because it’s got one of the longest ranges in a car. Yeah. 500 kilometers. 500 kilometers. Yeah. Over 500. Yep. So many angry people on the Facebook post about it. oh my god. So many angry people. Yep. They’re just like — Because it’s a BMW? Well, yeah, partly because the the main fleet of Skoda now, they were like, what’s the deal? What are you gonna use it for? You can’t use it all the time. It needs to be recharged. And it was like, yeah. They understand what an electric vehicle is, and they understand what the limitations are. And I think there’s only certain scenarios that can actually be used for or certain periods of time. Yeah. I mean,
Chris [00:18:18]:
The reality is the reality is we’re going that direction with legislation. Right? At some point — Well, it’s a it’s a everybody will be yeah.
Sam [00:18:28]:
Sorry? It’s a man it’s a mandate from government that all government departments have to reduce all their emissions. So a lot of these government departments have got electric vehicles or are getting them. And this is the police just going, okay. We’ll do our part. Yeah. Like, at the end of this trial, they’ll they might go, you know what? this does not work for us.
Chris [00:18:49]:
Absolutely. That’s what a trial is. That’s what gets me. That’s what gets me when people do this thing. I’m like, they would be it it would be negligent of them not to do this trial. Yeah. And and and find the best possible car Like, it’s not like they’ve got a Nissan leaf in the gun. We’re doing a trial with a Nissan leaf. You know what I mean? I am under the impression
Sam [00:19:12]:
I’ve heard somewhere They are getting some other type of car, which won’t be a actual marked police car, it’ll be for office people that have to drive between buildings.
Chris [00:19:24]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They could — — sense. There there would be all sorts of for one of the better term general staff, administrative staff. and and administrative requirements for things. I mean, I could understand them using the, you know, the police no. Is it police? No. That’s criminal what do you call it? Partner of corrections. Those vans I was thinking those vans
Sam [00:19:48]:
because they said police on the side, but those vans could be electric. quite easy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That sort of thing. No no doubt they’ll let us no doubt we’ll find out how it goes. The only thing I was thinking was a lot of police cars get rammed and stuff all the time. Like, every time they chase someone, and they’ve just updated their pursuit policy, so they’re allowed to chase after people a bit more now. I’d hate to see what the repair bill is when they crash that.
Chris [00:20:15]:
The repair bill would be something, but it would I would imagine and I might be wrong. I would imagine it’s safer than petrol. being ready.
Sam [00:20:27]:
I don’t know. They I don’t know. I know they freak out if a Teslas involved in a crash. Oh, really? Yeah. Because soon as they — Chemicals. No. If there’s any ignition, they can’t you can’t just easily put it out. They burn for hours. they just sort of let it burn. So I know when one of them crash, it’s all goes a bit crazy.
Chris [00:20:48]:
Okay. True. Yep. And and — Just because they’re worried about the battery compartment. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And and I’ll be honest, I know nothing about all that stuff. Hey. I’ve been going through some similar things over the last month, I think, a couple of times, but I’m gonna go back to this topic.
Sam [00:21:07]:
Oh, gosh. Okay.
Chris [00:21:10]:
the moon. The moon may be more habitable than you think. Okay. So there was a couple of things that I’ve watched recently. There was a I think it’s an older one from Singularity Hubbo rewatched. Now is this legit, or is this some sort of — No. No. No. This is all science stuff. Okay. Because everybody’s going the there’s a a huge push, and there’s a geopolitical push for getting to the moon now. So we wanna go to other planets, but we can’t get things out of the gravity well from earth to build things and step the space. But what they’ve found is these eight was it something like 20,000,000,000 tons of water in the poles of the moon. Right? Let’s melt it. Yeah. And so that they can use for drinking water. Yeah. They can use it for fuel because you get fuel up my mind. — out of it. You know? It’s — Yeah. — split it off for hydrogen and oxygen. So the oxygen obviously use as well. So it’s really important So they they knew that a few years back quite a few years back, I forget when now. But I’ll I’ll put a link because there’s a really good program from PBS America, which is the public broadcasting service of America. like, the BBC effectively. They did a thing called back to the moon full special, which I think is about 2 months old now. So it’s not, like, old. And they go through a lot of that stuff, and it was fascinating because, I mean, for for one thing that I thought was amusing was they’re talking about digging. Right? You gotta dig there. But you can’t get a a if if you could somehow get a excavator up to the moon, which you can’t because too bloody heavy. But if you could, it pushing into the ground will just lift it off the ground. It won’t dig. because — Would they would they anchor it down? Well, what they did what what they’ve done is really clever, I thought. So they’ve got this thing with wheels, but on the outside, it’s got other wheels, like but the digger wheels, and they counter rotate so they’re pushing against each other — Oh, okay. — as it’s going down. which is brilliant. This is like, oh, that’s clever. So yeah. And they’re using and they go, well, things are gonna break on this. So how do we fix it, and they’re using the crushed up moon dust as
Sam [00:23:35]:
for — Sumeet.
Chris [00:23:36]:
yeah, to do that printing. What do you call it? 3 d printer — Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. — a new wheel. So they 3 d print a new wheel and put it on. It looks it looks jinky ass. Yeah. Damnmy has — Yeah. — but works. So, you know, that’s that’s what they’re doing. And and the other thing that it was really interesting to me too was They have a lot of volcanic tubes. So at one point, the moon had lots of volcanic — Mhmm. — whatever, activity. And so I have a lot of these underground volcanic tubes. And, effectively, what you could do is and and we’re talking about 100 of miles one tube is a hundred miles long. You can go in there, shore it up spray the thing, pressurize it, there’s your habitat. Oh. Underground, it’s somewhat protected from radiation. and things, micro meteorites and all that sort of stuff. Anyway, I I I find it fascinating. So check out this Pedia special and there’s a the singularity video as well, which was quite interesting.
Sam [00:24:38]:
Nice. So scientists, let’s keep up with them. Have you heard of I didn’t know what this was. A Tokamak? No. t o k a m a k s. and I am assuming that’s how you pronounce it. It’s a it’s a device used in magnetic confinement fusion. Okay. And this is a they’ve got a few of them apparently around the world, and the idea is that they want to sustain a stable plasma state of the fusion reaction so you can get limitless energy.
Chris [00:25:20]:
Right. So they’re keeping the the electrons and neutrons and whatever. in a very confined space using magnetics so they can’t fly apart, and the reaction just is ongoing. Right. Okay. Right. So in the 19 nineties at the TFTR
Sam [00:25:37]:
Tokamak, wherever the hell that’s found, they managed to make 10,000,000 watts of fusion power.
Chris [00:25:44]:
Holy shoot.
Sam [00:25:45]:
Yeah. But now they’ve managed to do a 100 They got over a 100,000,000 degrees recently with the latest version of this thing called the ST 40. But it’s quite small, apparently. It’s smaller than the other ones, but it’s like they’ve got a yeah. A 100,000,000 degrees Celsius they’ve got to. which is the apparently, the temperature that fusion power plants need to generate for commercial energy. So I don’t know how long I don’t know how long it was at that temperature for.
Chris [00:26:20]:
Yeah. But I’ve never done it before. Yeah.
Sam [00:26:23]:
A fraction of a section 6 second, usually. Yeah. I’d say so. — those things. But then, yeah, that’s amazing. So I came across that, and I was like, didn’t know what any of that was about. So it was interesting. Then And then I saw this story. I think it’s the University of California. bunch of engineers. They’ve got this plastic clip thing that goes on a smartphone camera and flash unit, and it can monitor your blood pressure at the user’s fingertip. Right?
Chris [00:26:54]:
Right. So you put your finger on sip on that plastic thing
Sam [00:26:58]:
yeah, which is pretty cool. Now this little clip thing only cost 80¢ to make. And they reckon that this could be an affordable, accessible way for resource poor communities to check their blood pressure along with whatever the app is that does it. And at scale, these things will probably cost 10¢. They could they could just hand them out to whoever. and show them how to do it. Yeah. So they just clip it clip it on and then with the fingertip, and the app guides them on how long and how hard to press while it’s doing the measurement. And, apparently, it’s as accurate as any other thing that you can buy commercially. Like, retail, I guess. It’s the same. It’s it’s so close that apparently, it’s really good.
Chris [00:27:53]:
I I that reminds me of something. I was reading a book. It’s actually an audio book, but it’s old. It was an old one. Okay. So I wanna say it’s, like, thirty, forty years old. It actually feels older, but maybe it’s not. It could be. You are an old man. Yeah. Well, audiobooks.
Sam [00:28:12]:
they don’t make audiobooks of old, old books. They do. Well, maybe they do because this does seem really old. You used to be able to get them on tape. because my mom’s uncle was half blind. And when we were a kid so — Oh, yeah. True. — thirty odd years ago, he was listening to tapes.
Chris [00:28:29]:
true true. Actually, that’s a good point. This could be anyway, so it was on it’s on inventions and stuff. So I I was just trying to get some you know, ideas for podcasts or or or for the newsletter or whatever. But one of the things I talk he talked about was this mother and son who brought this guy back to life using a kit basically, a kitchen plunger, you know, a plunger,
Sam [00:28:54]:
Okay.
Chris [00:28:55]:
It’s for pulmonary resuscitation. Yeah. So instead of using fist or a hands for pit. Yeah. Yeah. They use this plunger. because she wasn’t very big or whatever. And it worked really, really well. And then they they created I think they got a patent for it, I think he was saying in the thing. And I was like, that makes so much sense to me. Like, it’s much more specific centered It would be less, I think, less hiring. I don’t know if you’d get enough pressure though, would you? I don’t know. I don’t know. But I’m I it it I was like, what happens to these ideas sometimes? And and maybe you’re right. Maybe it was like, Yeah. Talking — Actually, not better than just using hands. Talking about all of that, how many first aid courses have you done over the years? 2, 3, 4, 4, maybe 4. I mean and I’m thinking about things when I was a kid as well. Oh, okay. And how
Sam [00:29:52]:
varied have they been? from, like, the instructor to what they make you do. Oh, bit very much the same, I think.
Chris [00:29:59]:
Yeah. Obviously, when I was a kid, it was basic. But yeah.
Sam [00:30:04]:
Yeah. Yeah. My one is pretty quick that I do every — You do it every every year, though, right? Every 2 years. Every 2 years. Okay. And so that was all good, and they plowed through some stuff, and we learned some random stuff as well. But Sarah just did one for her job where she works at a school. It’s a random training organization sort of around the corner from you. They had to do all this random homework, and this booklet was just full of random information. but very little on actual first aid. And more about, yeah, more about being prepared for an emergency, like, draw your escape plan in your house.
Chris [00:30:46]:
And what do you do if this isn’t — — really school specific. not as much as we thought it would be. Yeah. because they when you said that, I thought it was gonna be very school system. No. And then it said,
Sam [00:30:58]:
Here’s a car crash out of Lego. When you come across it, what would you do? And you had to write down 5 things. Anyway, the course itself, apparently, was really good. And all the first aid courses I’ve ever done of only ever had the CPR dummy hooked up to a machine once, and it was showing your compressions. This one Sarah the one Sarah just did They were all hooked up to iPads. They had to do CPR for a full 2 minutes, and they had to get a 100% before the person would pass them. Oh,
Chris [00:31:32]:
that’s that’d be tiring too. Yep.
Sam [00:31:35]:
And then, also, they did It was something to do with the dummies had sensors on it, I think, to know where you were putting bandages or something. Some other high-tech thing. And then I said, did you do a defibrillator? No. They just pointed up to a picture and told us we just That’s it. I was like, oh, oh, okay. I we do the defibrillator thing. Like, I know how to use one of them. It’s just all random
Chris [00:32:06]:
what these people teach you. It’s different. And and it’s it’s interesting because that’s sort of the realm I’m playing with in terms of not the health and safety. so I don’t with that damn health thing. But it’s it’s the same. I we’re using, what they call, in performance criteria that the government sets to be assessed against, and then we interpret how we can get that performance, like, how we can meet that performance criteria — Yeah. — and the questions and or whatever exercises we give them, which is exactly what they’re doing. They’ve got performance criteria. They’re going, Well, if we ask them about this Lego in this car crash, it’s gonna cover this. Yeah. Yeah. So it may it becomes a term of art in terms of you can do something quite different, but it’s meeting the same, you know, criteria performance criteria. It’s quite interesting. Yeah. No. Totally. It’s but it’s I don’t know. I just thought
Sam [00:33:02]:
I don’t know. You just always think it’d be a bit more standardized across the whatever, but They are covering the points, I guess.
Chris [00:33:09]:
Yeah. And and the reality is that no two situations are ever gonna be the same. I like the idea that they’re not too standard — Yeah. True.
Sam [00:33:21]:
—
Chris [00:33:22]:
that those little bits of variety, particularly for you because you’ve done quite few of them will make a big difference, like, when you’re in a real situation, you’ve got a real basic a a solid understanding of the fundamentals. But particularly with some of the stories that you’re shared, you can see how those fundamentals can be applied in different scenarios. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty cool. So the last couple of times, I did it I did it with the Surf Life Saving Club when I started doing some work with them. But there was a few years ago, and I was never really that good. I didn’t know what I was doing because I hadn’t done it for years years. You know?
Sam [00:33:58]:
Well, That brings us to the podcast. Next week, we are at field days, which means we will be running around with microphones. And If you’re listening to this and you are at field days on definitely Wednesday, maybe Thursday. Let’s see. If you see us come say hi, we would love to talk to you. Absolutely. And then so that means many many many interviews will be coming out after that. Yep. And we will have to try and record a podcast for next week as well. And just finally to before we we sign off,
Chris [00:34:30]:
just a reminder that we’ve got the fireside chat coming up — With no fire. with no fire. Bring your own fire. But I still like the idea of calling a fireside chat, so that I know you too. You love it. You absolutely love it. — do. I do. And that’s what did we say? The 11th June? 2nd July you’ve got here. Yeah. No. The 11th June is when I put this in this thing. What am I doing? — actually written it. No. No. Oh, 2nd
Sam [00:34:57]:
July. I’m looking at the wrong line. I don’t know what date is correct, but we will let you know close to the phone. 2nd July at 10 AM.
Chris [00:35:05]:
Sunday, 2nd July at 10 AM, that’s New Zealand time. if you’re in America, it’ll be Saturday at some point. That’s right. That is how I understand it. Yeah. Okay. Details will be in the Facebook page. And if you want to make some comments on that, that’d be great. Cool. Yep. Until next time, I’m Sam. I’m Chris. See you. Bye.
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Find out what we’ve been up to this week. We talk about the new Apple Vision that was announced, some scientist stuff and first aid courses.
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