Beat a Kangaroo

Summary

Chris gives his review the movie Late Night with the Devil. He also got a random scam message via LinkedIn. Sam had his own scam interaction as well.

Just how many people stared at the eclipse? Scientists have realised frogs have been screaming.

Sunfed foods is closing down. We learn what US people thing they can beat up. Plus we talk about the plan to build an underwater science base.

Show Transcript

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Sam [00:00:21]:
Hello, and welcome to episode 475 of the Chris and Sam podcast.

Chris [00:00:26]:
Hi. I’m Chris.

Sam [00:00:27]:
And I’m Sam. Welcome along to your weekly fix of randomness technology and life brought to you from New Zealand.

Chris [00:00:33]:
Yes. And today’s randomness will be really random because we didn’t really plan this one.

Sam [00:00:38]:
I’ll tell you what. Okay, I’ve got something to start off with. What is in common with The Tim Ferriss podcast, The Dollop, The Criminal podcast, some other podcast I can’t remember and this very podcast we’re on right now. What is common amongst all of them?

Chris [00:00:56]:
The podcast hosting platform?

Sam [00:00:59]:
No. Think better.

Chris [00:01:01]:
Think better. Better. I can’t think of anything. No.

Sam [00:01:06]:
We are all turning 10 years old this year.

Chris [00:01:09]:
Oh, wow. Holy shit.

Sam [00:01:11]:
And at the time we were doing this, I didn’t think, any of these other podcasts had not been going that long. So, I’m surprised. I thought, like, The Ferriss had been going way longer. Like, we were like, you know our our podcast is very random and and, and we’ve we’ve talked about this because we’re not super niche about and topic. It’s very hard to get that huge fan base, which is fine. But, man, we were ahead of the curve. Like

Chris [00:01:42]:
Yeah. I got, I got messaged by somebody in, LinkedIn this morning. So I’ve been up for a few hours doing a few, workshop things on on LinkedIn this morning on Zoom this morning. But I was checking my emails, and I got a a thing from LinkedIn, and it’s a guy from Matchmaker FM.

Sam [00:01:59]:
Okay.

Chris [00:02:00]:
And, Matchmaker FM connects, podcast guests with The podcast.

Sam [00:02:05]:
Yes.

Chris [00:02:05]:
And the guy goes, hey. We’re we’re we’re Matchmaker Sam, and we we want to, move into the New Zealand area. And I’m like, dude, I’ve been following Matchmaker FM for at least 5 years now because it’s before COVID, I think. And I’ve already had guest spots based from your thing. You just don’t know about me. And said, our podcast has been going for 10 years. It’s just not a, yeah. Interviewer what? It’s not a a commercial podcast, basically.

Sam [00:02:33]:
So Tim Ferriss has basically for because his 10th anniversary is coming up, we’re all obviously thinking about what we’re going to do to celebrate this momentous occasion. And as you know, we’ve put in about 3 minutes worth of thinking on our, you know, and episode slash 10 year, which are all around the same time. But Tim Chris is like, let me know where I should go anywhere in the world. All I need is a bar that can hold, like, a couple of and people. And he’s got a form, I think, on his blog or something. And he’s like, yeah. Okay. I guess because he doesn’t usually like going out too much, but he’s like, this is special.

Sam [00:03:10]:
Let’s do it. I’m not sure what the other podcasts are up to. I think they’re just sort of touring around.

Chris [00:03:16]:
Wow. Cool.

Sam [00:03:18]:
But 10 years

Chris [00:03:19]:
list of podcasts again? Oh, The Dollar. The Dollar.

Sam [00:03:21]:
Yeah. The Dollar. I

Chris [00:03:22]:
I thought they’ve been going longer than us as well. Okay.

Sam [00:03:25]:
I I think we started, like, 6 months after Tim Chris and a couple of months after the dollop.

Chris [00:03:34]:
Yeah. Yeah. Because, I had been following, Tim Chris with The and show. He had, the random show in YouTube for for a while before he started the podcast.

Sam [00:03:46]:
Yes. He’s rereleasing those.

Chris [00:03:48]:
Yeah. I’ve been following that for ages. I love that. I I just really love I was still at telecom back then. So that was how long that ago that was.

Sam [00:03:55]:
Ancient.

Chris [00:03:56]:
Yes. He was the guy. Tim Ferriss was the guy that introduced me to Twitter because I saw him giving a tweet. And he goes, how many of you people here are tweeting right now? And I’m like, what the hell is he talking about? I had to Google it and figure out what it was. Yeah.

Sam [00:04:12]:
Yes. Hashtags was the thing that confused the hell out of me in the beginning.

Chris [00:04:16]:
Yeah. I

Sam [00:04:17]:
don’t I just couldn’t get my head around hashtags because they’d be talking about hashtags, and I’d be like, what are you on about? What does it mean? What does it link to? Because I’d be like, you just mentioned it, and I’m like, but what’s it linking to?

Chris [00:04:29]:
Yeah. Yeah.

Sam [00:04:30]:
Yeah. Yeah. Remember that. And then I was like, after a while, I saw it, and I was like, oh, you’re just, like, tagging random things.

Chris [00:04:37]:
Yeah. Yeah. It’s it’s interesting. It’s been a journey. Alright? Speaking of a journey, not that this is, yeah, not The is really a this is the worst segue ever. But chris headline stood stood out to me today.

Sam [00:04:53]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:04:53]:
And it’s from The Irish Star. So I don’t know how credible a newspaper that is, but, everyone still stood out. Robbie Williams, you know, the musician. Yes. Robbie Williams says aliens are targeting him because of his fame to be a messenger. Robbie Williams have claimed that aliens are targeting him because they want him to be a messenger for them on earth, and he’s seen UFOs on multiple occasions. He’s claimed aliens are choosing him because of chris fame. He’s a 50 year old rock sam, so he’s younger than me.

Chris [00:05:25]:
Goddamn it. Yeah. He he described how while pinning down a song in Arizona about alien contact, a gold ball of light appeared in the studio as the music played. I The think that it’s probably just the drugs. But, you know.

Sam [00:05:44]:
He’s involved in something recently, but I can’t remember what. He might have been a judge on a show or something. I can’t remember. Hey, I’ve just quickly Googled this. So they’re talking about this now. Like, a couple of days ago, they’re talking about this. In 2019, the New Zealand Herald has a story saying that he installed 24 hour security due to the fear that aliens might contact him. So this has been going on for a while now.

Sam [00:06:11]:
You imagine being 24 hour security, but just that. Not even crazy fans, not stalkers, none of that. Just the aliens.

Chris [00:06:19]:
I I’m being I’m so famous. I’m being stalked by people from another planet, bro.

Sam [00:06:25]:
So you’re just like you’re like, so, what what sort of, what have you got to help protect me from the aliens? And you’d be like, well, I’ve got this special tinfoil hat, this, probing stick. Like, you could just make stuff up and go, this is what you need. Don’t forget about guns. Guns are useless for aliens. I’ve got this roll of tinfoil. He also added in this thing. He may have a mental illness, but he admitted he was only saying that to appease any skeptics. Like, he fully believes this.

Chris [00:06:57]:
Yeah. Okay. I don’t know. It’s yeah. Yeah. I don’t know. It sounds crazy to me, but fair enough. Okay.

Chris [00:07:07]:
I guess we all have our peccadillos. Actually, this is another one And thought initially was a little crazy or a little why, in the the headline and this is BBC, so this is a little bit more of a, more mainstream, outlet, but the White House wants the moon to have its own time zone. And I’m like, well, would they have one time zone? Because, you know, there’s multiple sides of the moon. Like, just the same as the way the earth is. So but what what is actually interesting is is because of the different gravitational field strength on the moon, time moves quicker on the moon than it does on earth.

Sam [00:07:52]:
So Excellent point. Yeah. You froze for a minute and a half for me, so I have no idea what you’re talking about. I’m I’m I’m gonna say Zoom recorded it, so that’s good. So time goes faster on the moon. So when we live on the moon, we’re we’re out of sync.

Chris [00:08:08]:
So The White House has, suggested that that, the moon has its own time zone. And I was

Sam [00:08:15]:
That makes sense. It should do.

Chris [00:08:16]:
Why why would it? Like, not I yeah. But I think it’d have multiple time zones. I I just didn’t see the point. But then yeah. But then I found out that the gravitational field strength is is, lower, so time moves quicker. 58.7 microseconds a day. So, you know,

Sam [00:08:36]:
The adds up. That’s the gist of it.

Chris [00:08:38]:
I guess it adds up.

Sam [00:08:39]:
They’ll either do a correction or their own

Chris [00:08:41]:
clock or their own time thing there, which yeah. It’s not exactly a time zone though. I wouldn’t call that a time zone because it’s not using the same clock. But it’s fascinating because I never would have thought of that.

Sam [00:08:57]:
No. We’ll have to worry about that when we’re all living on the moon.

Chris [00:09:00]:
Well, we will when when when, you know, when granddad’s on the moon or whoever ends up going over The moon, I guess it’s being granddad’s will be in the on the moon because it’s less, less, gravitational pull. So it’s easier to get and, shuffle around. So you

Sam [00:09:16]:
reckon that’s it? They’ll send all the old people there first?

Chris [00:09:19]:
Yeah. Yeah. No. Once they’ve built it out.

Sam [00:09:23]:
Oh, okay. So it’d probably be to be honest, it’d just be like a big retirement and. And, you know, the whole family’s there just watching this rocket go off or whatever spaceship with all these old people. I don’t The you later. Yeah. Yeah. It’s the new Florida.

Chris [00:09:39]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they’ll probably make it tax free on the moon or something. Get people to move out The. And all the old people with money bugger off over there.

Sam [00:09:48]:
That’s right. They’ll love it. Hey. Doc has spent almost half a $1,000,000 to kill and stoat.

Chris [00:09:55]:
Oh my god. But was that the last one?

Sam [00:10:00]:
That’s the only one. So there’s an island called, they identified a stoat in and on Chalkia Island in Fiordland. And it had been predator free since 1999. So they went after it because they’re using that island, to, breed like kakapo chicks are on The. Tekakahu skinks and little spotted kiwi chicks. So they were like, you know, it’s a pretty special place that’s been predator free. They spent it on, incident management team costs. So that was probably most of it.

Sam [00:10:40]:
Staff time, conservation dog handlers, helicopters, and boat expenses. They then spent another $210,000 to make sure it was pest free by installing a surveillance system and doing a bunch of biosecurity planning because I guess I don’t know if it swam over there or it caught a ride on something. But,

Chris [00:11:02]:
yeah. Yeah. I don’t know. I don’t know if states can swim. I guess they probably can.

Sam [00:11:06]:
I think they can.

Chris [00:11:07]:
Most most vermin are they vermin? I don’t think they’re vermin. Most most rats and all that sort of thing and swim. So

Sam [00:11:14]:
Oh, I’ve got a story about a rat or a weird animal I saw last night. I wish I videoed it, but I didn’t because I didn’t know what was going on. So I got home from work last night at, like, 10 o’clock. I get out of the car and this weird thing comes along the footpath beside me and it goes up the neighbor’s driveway. And I’m like, what is that? It’s so weird. And initially I thought it’s a hedgehog.

Chris [00:11:37]:
That’s what I was just thinking. Yeah.

Sam [00:11:39]:
It’s the wrong shape.

Chris [00:11:41]:
Right.

Sam [00:11:41]:
And I was like, oh, and then I look and. There’s this cat just sitting on the road. Like, I think it was following this thing. So I turned on my light on my phone and I went up the neighbor’s driveway to try and find this thing. And, it was sort of in the shadows and it caught us it sort of stepped out and it was sort of like, this long The wide. It looked like a rat with no tail and all its fur was all scuffy and it was so weird looking And then it just scurried off, and I think it went up chris stairs.

Chris [00:12:15]:
Definitely possum. Oh, no. No tail.

Sam [00:12:19]:
No. It was the tail that threw me because I

Chris [00:12:21]:
was like

Sam [00:12:21]:
Yeah. For sure. I don’t know if it’s missing a tail or what it was, but it was definitely and it wasn’t sprinting. Like, it was just scurrying along like a rat. But it was a bit slow. Like, I don’t know if this cat had been beating the crap out of it. Anyway, it was one of those moments I wish I had.

Chris [00:12:37]:
Here’s a question for you. Did the cat have 2 tails?

Sam [00:12:43]:
No.

Chris [00:12:43]:
Like it ripped and off. Yeah. Okay.

Sam [00:12:46]:
Yeah. So that’s that’s what happened there. You just never know what’s going to happen. Actually talking about The, I must knock myself out on the weekend. Everybody thought I’d hit my head, but I didn’t. But I I had an epic fall off a small child’s rolling toy thing that I went down escape ramp off. Seemed like a good idea at the time. And,

Chris [00:13:07]:
So you decided to use a skate ramp on purpose with some child’s rolly thing?

Sam [00:13:13]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. My daughter has this thing that I got her when she was like 3 or 4. This little cart thing. She’s 16 now. But anyway, she’s still got it.

Sam [00:13:24]:
And when we go to my mum and dad’s, all the cousins are there, they always want to go to this park. There’s a little skate park. It’s, like, little. Like, it’s not huge. And, anyway, they roll around on these things. And I rolled down this little hill on it and it was good. And then I was like, Oh, I’m going to go down this bigger one. And when I say bigger, it’s only if I’m standing next to it, it’s like chest height.

Sam [00:13:43]:
So I went from The. It’s quite

Chris [00:13:45]:
steep though. Yeah.

Sam [00:13:46]:
Yeah. And Saira goes, I don’t think you should do that. And I was like, no, I’m good. And anyway, I rolled down and then yeah. It just started wobbling.

Chris [00:13:54]:
So you’re standing on this thing?

Sam [00:13:56]:
No. I’m sitting on it.

Chris [00:13:57]:
Okay. Cool.

Sam [00:13:58]:
It started wobbling and then I, just bailed off. And, I don’t know about you, but I’ve I’ve taken a few falls in my The. And every time I do it always goes slow motion for me. So I know, and know, what I’m doing and I’m pretty good at falling, I think. Like, I’ve never really felt

Chris [00:14:15]:
I’m usually pretty good.

Sam [00:14:16]:
Yeah. I’ve tumbled down, big forest hills. Like, I’ve tumbled for a long time down hills and been okay. But, so my I went down and my head my glasses came off. My head moved so violently, but I hit my head on my shoulder on my arm.

Chris [00:14:32]:
Oh, yeah.

Sam [00:14:33]:
And I got that grazed there and one on my side. And anyway. But everyone sam running over and, like, you’re here? You’re here? And I’m like, what? No. No. I’m good. No. You hit your head. I was like, no.

Sam [00:14:43]:
I didn’t. Are you sure you might not know you hit your head? I was like, no. No. Like, my head’s fine. Like, you’d know if I hit my head. And my daughter’s like, yeah. You’d be swearing all the time. Thanks.

Sam [00:14:55]:
Anyway.

Chris [00:14:56]:
Oh, yeah. No. There’s nothing like a good fall. I remember 2 specific falls very, very well. 1 was ice I see stairs outside, my place, and my feet just which shot up in the air. And I went down flat on my back across the the the the stairs. So that Yep. The of the stairs went straight across my back and then sort of slowly bounced down the rest of the stairs, which was really bad.

Chris [00:15:23]:
I had concrete stairs at The old place I used to live at. And The, one of the most amusing ones is at a toga party Yes. That I went to, for the surf lifesaving club in Whangamata with, Jeff and a few of the boys. And they’re all young. I’m I always must be 40 The, probably ish, give or take.

Sam [00:15:46]:
So you’re the older one?

Chris [00:15:48]:
I’m definitely The old oldest one. And most of the people there getting drunk are are teenagers. And they’re doing beer slides.

Sam [00:15:55]:
Okay.

Chris [00:15:56]:
Naked beer slides, I think. And so I’m like, you know, it’s it’s yeah. A and people in this bloody thing drinking away. And I’m holding this Heineken, and I stepped forward, and my foot hit this beer all over the floor. And it just shot up in the air, And I could see both my feet, like, in the air and go

Sam [00:16:14]:
Oh, woah.

Chris [00:16:14]:
Oh, this is not gonna be good. And then slammed down, but I managed to keep my beer upright so I didn’t spill any. And the only thing that and woman’s got is like, who’s got undies on under his toga? He’s got undies on

Sam [00:16:28]:
so Oh, no. They shit about that.

Chris [00:16:31]:
Yep. Good. That was that was it. But yeah. But I still remember that like it was, in slow motion. The whole feet going up and going, oh, shit. This isn’t going to be good. Make sure you don’t spill the beer.

Chris [00:16:45]:
And, yeah, I’ll and it fine.

Sam [00:16:48]:
I, the only the only other one I remember, it wasn’t really a fall, but it was a bank collapsing that I was going up. So yeah. So we I used to measure pine trees as a job and we we we worked in the middle of nowhere. There’s only ever 2 of us And I had this plastic, I had all this gear attached to me, but I had this tape measure which was sort of like a round plastic strip of plastic that was all marked.

Chris [00:17:16]:
But it

Sam [00:17:16]:
was quite tough. But I had that trailing behind me. It was like 20 meters long. I always had this behind me. And the dude I worked with, sometimes you’d blink and somehow he’d be somewhere else. So after a while, I was like, chris is really weird. I don’t I’ve never seen you move fast, but you you’re over there. Okay.

Sam [00:17:30]:
And he got to the top of this bank thing and he goes, yeah, it’s all good. Just climb up this bank thing. I was like, oh, okay. And then I sort of I think the tape was wrapped around a tree at and point. So I sort of was like, oh, yeah. And then the whole thing came down with it with little trees. It was all everything.

Chris [00:17:46]:
Like a whole bunch of stuff.

Sam [00:17:48]:
Yeah. Got got, up past my knees, but I sort of started running down the hill with it. And Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That’s real weird.

Sam [00:17:57]:
I was lucky nothing else happened, bad because yeah. But we’re miles away from anyway.

Chris [00:18:02]:
Yep. Yep. Well, when you get as old as us, you know that luck has had a part in it.

Sam [00:18:09]:
I yeah. Yeah. Totally. Yeah.

Chris [00:18:12]:
This is a really weird, headline that I saw in another BBC headline. And I’m like, what is going on? So this is the headline. Ringleader of Global Monkey Torture Network, The torture king Yes. Is charged. Have you heard of that?

Sam [00:18:31]:
I’ve heard about the monkey torture thing because I think David Ferrier spoke about it a couple of months ago.

Chris [00:18:37]:
Oh, right.

Sam [00:18:38]:
And there’s a lot of it’s not even full on torture. I mean, that guy is doing that. But there’s a lot of viral videos out there that if you keep seeing the same thing over and over again, it’s being manufactured by somebody somewhere. And one of these things was to do with animals, I think. It was the monkeys. And then I think some people were doing some things with dogs. And it was sort of like they were in distress. And I think it might have stopped before it got too bad on normal social media networks.

Sam [00:19:12]:
But I think in other areas of the Internet, probably, they were doing worse things. But, yeah, this guy was, like, full on,

Chris [00:19:18]:
Yeah. So he ran several chat groups for monkey torture enthusiasts Yeah. Around the world.

Sam [00:19:23]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:19:24]:
I just can’t see that. So when I was young and blockbuster was a thing, I remember getting out, a couple of movies, which I don’t know how they were legal in New Zealand. And I got them out a couple of times when I was, like, 12 or 11:12 because

Sam [00:19:40]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:19:40]:
You know, it’s it’s like, chris is interest this is different. The The effect effectively stuff snuff movies. It was faces of death and faces of death The. And it’s just a whole series of clips of people dying. But they warm you up, and they warm you up with some animals dying. And one of them, The beginning was them killing these monkeys in a restaurant. So basically, The restaurant, you go to this restaurant, and these are like this is in the seventies. These people are smoking and all the rest of it.

Chris [00:20:11]:
And they’re sitting in this restaurant and the guy brings a monkey and chucks it in, and and there’s a yoke. So the the monkeys in the table and all that’s sticking out of the table is its head. And it’s spinning around. And they all get out hammers and they start hitting him on the head until they knock him unconscious. Then the waiter comes over and cuts the top of his head off and they all eat the brains.

Sam [00:20:36]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:20:37]:
It was the most disgusting thing. I much preferred watching all the people die than, The monkey. That was terrible.

Sam [00:20:44]:
But, like, it’s crazy when you think about it. This guy has several chat groups that are all watching this. There’s other people that will be doing this, and there’ll be even worse people doing stuff to other people or other things. Yeah. It’s just you just don’t know. Like, it’s absolutely mental.

Chris [00:21:03]:
Yeah. I I yeah. I I don’t get it, which is probably a good thing. It’s a good thing

Sam [00:21:08]:
that I don’t It is. Yeah. No. You don’t wanna go searching

Chris [00:21:11]:
for any of this stuff. Oh, hell no. Hell no. Yeah. But The faces a death. So, I mean, most of them were there was, videos of executions, like, you know, electric chair and all that sort of stuff. Most of them mold and a few, videos of, you know, people getting caught in accidents or attacked by

Sam [00:21:29]:
Yeah. Yeah.

Chris [00:21:29]:
And stuff.

Sam [00:21:30]:
We we’ve got the gist. We’ve got the gist. And it was like yeah. They grossed, like, apparently, $35,000,000 from that film. Just that and, the original one, which is crazy. Goddamn. Hey. Luxon just announced something.

Sam [00:21:47]:
And

Chris [00:21:48]:
I was gonna know.

Sam [00:21:49]:
No, no, no, no. Chris could actually be okay. This could be actually okay. So he said that he wants to do a major change to address building supply shortages. So what he’s there’s 3 changes. They’ve they said basically they wanna recognize building product standards from overseas so they can bring in different products. Because at the moment, I think Fletcher’s has the whole industry tied up because in the building standards, they don’t say, hey, just use a plasterboard product. It’s like you must use Jib.

Sam [00:22:24]:
Yep. Yeah. You know? So they’re gonna,

Chris [00:22:27]:
So just for the people overseas, Jib is Gibraltar board, which is a New Zealand brand of plaster board.

Sam [00:22:34]:
Yep.

Chris [00:22:35]:
Because when I went overseas and I was working in construction, and I said, oh, we got to put Jibbord up there. Nobody knew what I was talking about, which was amusing too because I was working in Gibraltar.

Sam [00:22:45]:
Yes.

Chris [00:22:46]:
And it it made it funny that it was called Gibraltar board and they’d never heard of it in Gibraltar.

Sam [00:22:51]:
They’re going to get the requiring building consent authorities to accept the use of products that comply with specific overseas standards that are equivalent or higher The in New Zealand. I’m sure everything’s probably going to be higher than the standards here. And they’ve going to allow the, approving of building products certified through reputable certification schemes overseas. For example, if they approve the and Australian scheme, which is called Watermark, which is a weird name, but anyway, it could immediately provide Kiwis with access to another 200,000 products.

Chris [00:23:27]:
Oh, that’s cool. Sell your shares in, Fletchers, but, that’s cool.

Sam [00:23:31]:
It’d be interesting to see how it goes. Like, he just says a lot of stuff and hopes it works. But this could be potentially the suppliers here now because like I think Fletcher’s Owns Placemakers and Carter’s or something. I don’t know. There’s a few they’re all intertwined.

Chris [00:23:46]:
Yeah. I didn’t know. Yeah.

Sam [00:23:47]:
But if like Mitre 10 or somebody had the gumption and stuff, I guess, to go out and start bringing in the stuff that people want, like it’s a balancing act of figuring it out. But hopefully they don’t stuff it up because you don’t want someone to build something with an Australian product. They said they got to start with Australia and then hopefully go further out. So they’ll bring in, like, maybe American products and stuff. But our market’s so small, you know, It’s yeah. We’ll see.

Chris [00:24:18]:
Yeah. For sure. Alright. I I did think this was amusing. I don’t know. I’m only gonna talk about the headline just because it seems so typically French.

Sam [00:24:27]:
Okay.

Chris [00:24:28]:
So Air France pilots are threatening to strike over the new government strike ban.

Sam [00:24:33]:
Nice. They are a nation that likes to strike.

Chris [00:24:37]:
Oh, 100%. And, honestly, I I I I’m I I’m with the pilots on this one. If the government’s gonna put in a strike ban and just because you’re a pilot, like, screw that. I’d strike. Show them the power. That’s awesome. I like that. That’s funny.

Chris [00:24:54]:
But very French.

Sam [00:24:55]:
Yeah. They’ll do that. Last week, you were talking about dungeon crawler, Karl.

Chris [00:25:01]:
Yep.

Sam [00:25:02]:
I am 75% of the way through the first book.

Chris [00:25:07]:
Right. I’m I’m most of the way through I’m about the same, I think, through the 5th book.

Sam [00:25:12]:
Yes.

Chris [00:25:13]:
There’s 6 there’s 6 in the series, but I don’t know if that’s 6 so far because I don’t think they’ve finished it on the 6 and. Not not the way I’m going at the moment.

Sam [00:25:22]:
No. I don’t know. Chris Do I don’t even know who this is targeted towards. It’s hitting a whole bunch of points.

Chris [00:25:30]:
Yeah.

Sam [00:25:30]:
Yeah. I think.

Chris [00:25:32]:
So I think there’s a name for this. It’s called RPG Lit.

Sam [00:25:37]:
Yes. Oh, no. Lit. A lit RPG game lit adventure.

Chris [00:25:42]:
Yeah.

Sam [00:25:42]:
He’s targeted all those things.

Chris [00:25:43]:
Literally literary, role playing gamers. So people that that do like the role playing game.

Sam [00:25:50]:
Yeah. Yeah. I don’t know what else is stooge for it, actually. It’s pretty good. You get right into it. I could definitely see a movie and this somehow.

Chris [00:26:00]:
Yes. Sam people have said that The the if they made a series on that, it would be epic, But it’d be so hard to do well. And I have the same issue with, Ready Player 1. I was like, I wanna see it because you can see it in your mind. It’s so vivid. But at the same time, you go, but if they make it and they screw it up, I’ll be devastated. And this would be the same because it’d be pretty hard. You’ve got a lot of creatures in it and,

Sam [00:26:29]:
But you can see, like, how he’s pulled from all sorts of different things. So it’s sort of like Hunger Game ish. A part of it reminded me of Labyrinth. And when I think about some of the creatures, I’m thinking about, like, some of those things.

Chris [00:26:42]:
Yeah. A lot of it, somebody said it was very much like the running man.

Sam [00:26:46]:
Yep. Running. Well, it says that at the start of the book. The Oh, yeah.

Chris [00:26:49]:
Yeah. That’s right at the start of the book. Yeah.

Sam [00:26:51]:
Because they’re like, oh, you know, chris is very much like running man or something else. Yeah.

Chris [00:26:56]:
It’s great. It’s great fun. It’s it’s just a fun read. But, yeah, I got a bit carried away and ended up buying them The. And I’m reading my

Sam [00:27:04]:
way through. I mean, I yeah. I’d like to say that I brought them. Let’s just pretend I did. All good. You can get them for, it’s hard to keep. I don’t 4.99 on Kindle or you can buy the whole pack. I think there’s deals.

Sam [00:27:26]:
You can get all 6 for 36.49.

Chris [00:27:29]:
Oh, well, I didn’t go with that deal. Goddamn it.

Sam [00:27:32]:
Were you buying them individually?

Chris [00:27:35]:
Yeah. Because I couldn’t find a pack on Kindle on on Amazon.

Sam [00:27:40]:
Anyway, check it out. It’s called Dungeon Crawler Carl by Matt Dinnaman.

Chris [00:27:44]:
Dinnaman. Dinnaman. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Definitely got my stamp of approval. So.

Sam [00:27:49]:
Yeah. If you’re into anything like fantasy, role playing, RPG, all that sort of stuff. It references all sorts of stuff all the time.

Chris [00:27:58]:
Yeah. It’s very funny. Very funny. Very light comedy stuff.

Sam [00:28:02]:
Almost most brings us to the end of this, amazing podcast episode. What, what are you up to?

Chris [00:28:09]:
What am I up to? I’ve got a, a 3 day workshop coming up, and it starts at 4 AM on Friday Saturday. And then on Sunday, it starts at 3 AM because daylight savings. And so

Sam [00:28:22]:
I’m so I’m so glad I’m not working in the morning.

Chris [00:28:25]:
Oh, yeah. So 888 hour, 8 hours a day for 3 days. So So I’m gonna be doing that. That’ll be interesting. We’ll see what happens with that. And then, what else am I up to? I just need to do some work and I haven’t been doing a lot of work. I’ve been

Sam [00:28:40]:
Work pays the bills.

Chris [00:28:42]:
I know. I know. I know. And I need to stack that up so I get paid at the end of the month. So yeah.

Sam [00:28:49]:
Very good.

Chris [00:28:50]:
What about you? What are you up to?

Sam [00:28:52]:
I am trying to sort out some of this Misty Flix stuff, I think. Yes. I’m just sorting out little bits and pieces of different things and, we will see how we go. So until next time, I’m Sam.

Chris [00:29:05]:
I’m Chris.

Sam [00:29:06]:
See you.

Chris [00:29:07]:
Bye.

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