Summary

Sam is getting jabs this week and sad news as Mac the dog has passed away.

We talk a little about US politics and wonder how much of the recent things were pre planned. And is there sexism coming into play when talking about the Secret Service.

Olympics are on right now. We talk about that, and the stupidity of some team members.

We talk about the largest IT outage in the world, what caused it and were we impacted by it?

Idiot gets pulled over with a lot of drugs because his lights weren’t on.

We talk about a new way to drill holes on a construction site using a robot.

Chris catches us up about saline agriculture. Whole Sam talks about a cave on the moon.

Links

Stupidity at the Olympics
Largest IT outage in the world happened
Idiot with a lot of drugs gets pulled over
Robot to drill 20,000 holes on a construction site
Lot of people want to adopt a swearing parrot
Saline Agriculture
Moon caves found

Show Transcript

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Sam [00:00:06]:
Hello, and welcome to episode 491 of the Chris and Sam podcast.

Chris [00:00:25]:
I’m Chris.

Sam [00:00:26]:
And I’m Sam, welcome along to your weekly first your weekly fix even of randomness technology in life. I just got some blood taken out of me for a blood test for work.

Chris [00:00:35]:
That’s your excuse.

Sam [00:00:35]:
That’s my excuse. I’m going with it. Because work’s giving me a free hepatitis b injection, because I need one of them if I’m dealing with grease traps. And they must have just remembered about it even though I’ve been there 5 5 and a half weeks. But they were like, oh, you gotta do a blood test first because they gotta work out what immunizations you already have. Oh, really?

Chris [00:00:55]:
And then Oh, that makes sense, I guess.

Sam [00:00:57]:
Because I

Chris [00:00:58]:
never would have thought of that.

Sam [00:00:59]:
No. No. I just thought I was gonna get a jab for this, hip beat. But

Chris [00:01:02]:
Yeah. We used to just stack jabs when I was young. There was none of this, what do you already have? It’s just like stick your arm out. We’re giving you this.

Sam [00:01:11]:
Well, Simon at work said when he got his one done, they were like, oh, you’re you’re out of date for tetanus and something else is something else. So he got a whole bunch at once.

Chris [00:01:18]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That’s that’s that’s pretty bad. What what’s what’s happening? Anything exciting going on?

Sam [00:01:26]:
No. Nothing exciting. Sad news though, Mac Yes. Has passed away. Mac is, Adam’s giant Great Dane Yeah. And he was a great dog and he was always there at movie, movie nights.

Chris [00:01:39]:
Yeah. So, 11 just over 11 years old which is pretty old for a Great Dane, I think it is. I think it’s around 8 is the standard, I believe. I might be wrong. But yeah.

Sam [00:01:50]:
Sorry. Adam will correct you.

Chris [00:01:51]:
Yeah. Adam will correct me. Yeah. No. I caught up with Adam this week and and sort of, anyway, and so we we talked a little bit about that. But positive, he did get that movie finished that he’s doing for Misty Flix. So all Mac’s scenes are done.

Sam [00:02:07]:
Oh, cool.

Chris [00:02:08]:
So Mac will be immortalized in that. Yes.

Sam [00:02:12]:
Excellent.

Chris [00:02:14]:
What else we got here? I I’ve got to talk a little bit about US politics just

Sam [00:02:19]:
a second.

Chris [00:02:19]:
I think

Sam [00:02:20]:
you do. I’ve been I’ve been updating some of the website, and I think way back at like episode 110, one of the notes was too much talking about Trump back then.

Chris [00:02:33]:
I wasn’t gonna talk about Trump at all, but the whole the whole Joe Joe Biden’s, like, pulling out was a big

Sam [00:02:38]:
big deal. I didn’t realize that’s happened since we last recorded.

Chris [00:02:41]:
That yeah. That’s the thing. So last time we recorded, we’re talking about assassinations.

Sam [00:02:45]:
That’s right. So it’s hard to it’s hard to keep up.

Chris [00:02:47]:
It’s hard to keep up. But what I wanted to mention because I think it’s interesting. So Kamala Harris is is in. That’s cool. I’ve already made it clear that, you know, I I don’t know that, Americans can handle voting for a woman as a president, but, I mean, look at the options. Are you gonna vote colored or you’re gonna vote orange? Oh, wait, they’re both colored. So anyway, one thing I did wanna mention though is I wonder so people always go on about conspiracy theories. Right? And the reality is that most politicians, there’s no conspiracy theory going on.

Chris [00:03:24]:
If they think they can do something, they say it. They don’t, like, hide the fact that they can do something. Right?

Sam [00:03:31]:
Yeah. Okay.

Chris [00:03:31]:
Except this one thing. I wonder

Sam [00:03:34]:
What’s that?

Chris [00:03:34]:
If Joe Biden actually went, yeah. I’m gonna pull out, but I’ll wait till after the Republican conference. Mhmm.

Sam [00:03:43]:
So So they’ve locked in

Chris [00:03:45]:
Yeah. They locked they got their their VP, and they’ve locked in, this is how we’re gonna beat Biden. And they locked all that down, and then, like, a week later because

Sam [00:03:56]:
that’s so bad. A week later

Chris [00:03:58]:
Yeah. Went, well, no. Biden’s out, countless, and and and the republicans are

Sam [00:04:02]:
freaking out because they got this dickhead shady rant, and it’s not gonna work against, you know,

Chris [00:04:10]:
their whole thing set up for Biden, and now it’s Carmela. Anyway, I just wonder That’s interesting. Actually actually, strategic rather than

Sam [00:04:18]:
She did break Lucky. The record for the most donations in a single day.

Chris [00:04:23]:
Yep. $81,000,000

Sam [00:04:25]:
probably a bit more. 888 1,000 grassroots donors contributed with 60% donating for the very first time. And it wasn’t like it was like a little, you know, a couple hundred bucks here and there. Yeah.

Chris [00:04:37]:
Yeah. It’s probably $180 or something average or Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Sam [00:04:41]:
Yeah. So they said that’s quite surprising, I guess.

Chris [00:04:44]:
Actually, on that, while we’re still on the American thing, I thought this was fascinating too. The Secret Service director resigned this week.

Sam [00:04:52]:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Of course.

Chris [00:04:54]:
But do you know there’s been I’ve did I write down? No. Probably about 8 assassinations or assassination attempts of presidents over the last, say, 100 years or maybe more than US presidents? US presidents.

Sam [00:05:09]:
Okay. Yeah.

Chris [00:05:10]:
And not a single Secret Service director resigned because of any of them. Yeah. Okay. Because, do you know why? Why? Well, I don’t know why definitely, but I will say they were all men. But this cracked me up because, there was one guy and I didn’t get his name. I didn’t write it down, but many other I’m going to write read out what I’ve written down here. Many other presidents or nominees have been shot, but nobody ever resigned. President Gerald Ford was shot twice

Sam [00:05:45]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:05:46]:
By 2 different people. Nice. In the space of a week.

Sam [00:05:50]:
Oh good.

Chris [00:05:52]:
And not only did the guy that was director at that point go, oh, I shouldn’t really let him walk around the street like that. He also was still the director of the Secret Service when Ronald Reagan got shot.

Sam [00:06:08]:
Oh, okay. Okay. Okay.

Chris [00:06:09]:
So he he was, you know, director for

Sam [00:06:13]:
3 shootings of president. There was probably no one else.

Chris [00:06:16]:
There was

Sam [00:06:16]:
no one else.

Chris [00:06:17]:
I’ll just keep going. And so he retired honorably some time later.

Sam [00:06:22]:
He’s fine. He’s fine.

Chris [00:06:25]:
But somebody nicks, Donald Trump’s ear, which to be fair, it was a credible threat. He could have died, you know. And this chick takes resigns. And I think it’s fair that she did, and I think some of those other guys should have. And I just wonder if it’s just the fact that women take responsibility and men go, yeah. Well, I tried my best.

Sam [00:06:50]:
Maybe. But I think it’s just the times that we live in.

Chris [00:06:53]:
Oh, yeah. That’s true.

Sam [00:06:54]:
More so than that. Talking about Americans, the Olympics are on at the moment, which is exciting, I guess. I haven’t watched anything. What’s your go to Olympic sport to watch? Do you have one? My sister’s right into it.

Chris [00:07:05]:
No. I’m not not anymore. I what did I used to watch a lot of? I I did rhythmic gymnastics. I know. Sounds odd, but it just amazed me particularly when I was really really fit and did the martial arts stuff and all the rest of it. What they could do throwing that ball in the air, do the tumble and stuff, and and stand in a position and it falls in their hand and that sort of thing Yeah. Just blows my mind. So, yeah, the rhythm of gymnastics and gymnastics in general Yeah.

Chris [00:07:41]:
From an athleticism point of view, It’s not bad to watch the the sprints and stuff like that, but I’m not huge

Sam [00:07:49]:
No. No. Fan of of that. So there’s a bunch of American swimmers that are getting coached by a guy called Ken Ono, and he’s a he teaches number theory at Emory University Atlanta, and he does applied math and physics and was also, does a whole bunch of stuff. And he’s basically teaching them math and doing experiments and they’re all winning gold now. And it’s all about like micro movements and modifying them because he said like the last 3 kicks before they get to the end of the pool, they’re not using the right amount of energy. Like they just they know the wall’s coming up, so they slow down basically. Breaststroke’s the hardest thing to work on in a scientific way because of the movement and how much variability there is.

Sam [00:08:40]:
But yeah he’s got a whole bunch of people to up their game and we’re talking like very minute seconds Yeah. But it’s from nothing to gold.

Chris [00:08:49]:
Yeah. When you’re at that level, what is it? The the winning by a nose theory, you know, like you don’t have to put 20% more effort to to go from 3 times the the the prize

Sam [00:09:06]:
money Yeah. Basically. And and then you’ve got the Canadian assistant coach and analyst.

Chris [00:09:12]:
Oh, yeah.

Sam [00:09:12]:
From the women’s football. I’ve been sent home because I’ve been flying a drone to look at the, New Zealand women’s football team.

Chris [00:09:21]:
Yeah. That means Who thought

Sam [00:09:23]:
that was a good time? Hang on. You’ve got So

Chris [00:09:25]:
the New Zealand women’s football team are having their practice

Sam [00:09:28]:
time. Exactly.

Chris [00:09:29]:
And obviously, when you do these team sports, you know, you the competition is locked out of the arena or the stadium or

Sam [00:09:38]:
wherever you Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Chris [00:09:39]:
Meets the standard. And so the Canadian somebody, some people in the Canadian thing, decided to fly a drone over to

Sam [00:09:46]:
the car. The assistant coach the analyst. How stupid do you have to be? Not just in general. You’re at the top of your game. You’re at the Olympics. You’ve probably been involved for quite a while. There’s a lot of people around. They’re all top sports people.

Sam [00:10:01]:
Anything weird out of place, these people are gonna notice. And it’s mental.

Chris [00:10:06]:
Yeah. I mean, I think one of them was detained by the French police.

Sam [00:10:10]:
Oh, they won’t take yeah. I mean, that’s right. Because

Chris [00:10:12]:
Because it’s a it’s a drone in the city. I mean, I’m assuming they’d have similar laws to the yeah.

Sam [00:10:20]:
Well, I’d say it’d be pretty locked down for, airspace because you don’t want someone flying a bombing.

Chris [00:10:24]:
Yeah. Exactly.

Sam [00:10:25]:
We haven’t seen that yet in western culture, apparently.

Chris [00:10:28]:
Yeah. No. And but, I mean, you know, we know that Ukraine has, you know, drones or in Russia, you know, like, both sides. Flying a standard drone with a hand grenade on it is not that hard.

Sam [00:10:39]:
Exactly. Shout out to Harley.

Chris [00:10:41]:
Actually, on that too, before you before you go, John Oliver on his most recent thing, which you must look up if you have a look. I saw it on on YouTube and it was one of those pirated YouTube things, and it was just that week’s show, so I ended up watching it.

Sam [00:10:57]:
Okay. It

Chris [00:10:57]:
didn’t have the greatest sound, but it was freaking hilarious. At the end, he’s talking about the World Games, and I’d never heard of that. Have you heard of the World Games?

Sam [00:11:04]:
Vaguely.

Chris [00:11:05]:
So the the opposite, the off years of the Olympic Games. Okay. It’s every 2 years after the Olympic Games. Whatever that works out. But it’s like the odd sports that they want to maybe make sports and maybe become sports.

Sam [00:11:21]:
Yep.

Chris [00:11:22]:
And he he went through some of the funniest ones and stuff, but he’s like, everybody needs to get on this website. You know how John Oliver

Sam [00:11:29]:
Yeah. Yeah.

Chris [00:11:29]:
Get on this website and vote for Vote? BladeSports.

Sam [00:11:34]:
Okay. So like rollerblading and

Chris [00:11:36]:
No. No. No.

Sam [00:11:37]:
Oh, no. Lives. Oh, okay. Blade. Yeah.

Chris [00:11:38]:
Sorry. The guy is so freaking, focused in, and he goes around this, like like a table with arms holding different things, and he just cuts them.

Sam [00:11:51]:
Oh, yeah. I’ve seen that. Yeah. No. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. I’ve seen that.

Sam [00:11:54]:
Yes. Yep.

Chris [00:11:54]:
It’s funny.

Sam [00:11:55]:
So the big knife makers, make sure they go to that.

Chris [00:11:58]:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. It did remind me of like a trade show, like

Sam [00:12:01]:
They’ve gotta cut the rope that’s hanging and then cut it laying down and And

Chris [00:12:04]:
then I think the last thing is cut a piece of paper.

Sam [00:12:06]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It’s very shout. Oh, of course.

Sam [00:12:10]:
That’s crazy.

Chris [00:12:11]:
I was

Sam [00:12:11]:
just gonna say a big shout out to Harley. He’s at the Olympics right now.

Chris [00:12:14]:
Oh, is he?

Sam [00:12:14]:
Yes. Yeah. So it’s good. He’ll be doing some live captioning again.

Chris [00:12:18]:
Oh, I I was like, I don’t know what he’s competing in.

Sam [00:12:21]:
Oh, he he he keeps saying he’s over there for rhythmic gymnastics, but they kicked him out, so he’s gotta do something else. So he was lucky enough to go to the last Olympics during COVID which was a crazy experience. He did the live captioning for sailing and they won a big award all 37 people on that team or something silly. Yeah. I think he said there’s 20. I can’t remember what the figure was. There’s a bunch of Kiwis over there just doing this live captioning thing,

Chris [00:12:48]:
which

Sam [00:12:49]:
is quite surprising. I don’t know if he’s doing sailing again. Probably. Because he doesn’t yeah.

Chris [00:12:55]:
Good on him.

Sam [00:12:56]:
Sounds pretty sounds real interesting.

Chris [00:12:58]:
Yeah. No. He he’d meet some some cool people doing that, I reckon.

Sam [00:13:01]:
What about the largest IT outage in the world ever? How silly is this?

Chris [00:13:06]:
Okay. Go for it.

Sam [00:13:08]:
Well, they pushed it to live without testing it.

Chris [00:13:11]:
Yeah. I I so I I watched something about it, because I didn’t know it happened. I missed the whole thing. And it I

Sam [00:13:18]:
was gonna ask if it affected you, but you don’t go anywhere. So No.

Chris [00:13:21]:
It didn’t didn’t affect me, but I I saw something online. I I watched it, and it the guy though, it was a YouTube video and he was an ex engineer. Yeah. And he, from Microsoft and he he talked about it. It was fascinating actually what he said, but he’s like, yeah, no. What happens is you’ve got the kernel, which when you’re talking about the kernel in terms of processing, you only have the hardware in the kernel. You don’t want other things.

Sam [00:13:48]:
Oh, yeah.

Chris [00:13:48]:
But this crowds is it CrowdStrike? Crowd Crowdforce, CrowdStrike, whatever it is called, is a security program for enterprise. Yeah. CrowdStrike. Yeah. And they put it in the kernel Alright. And they they don’t have because so there’s a whole lot of things you have to do to get what’s the word?

Sam [00:14:10]:
Like acceptance?

Chris [00:14:11]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Approval to to do that, and they they didn’t, and they changed some stupid thing. And basically, it’s basically said put memory here. Oh, that memory doesn’t exist. Blue screen.

Sam [00:14:24]:
Exactly. So the cool thing was well, not the cool thing, but it was interesting. There were some people online working for big organizations and they’re like, we’ve just installed all this CrowdStrike software. Other companies are like, we removed it all because we understand these problems with it, like we got rid of it and other companies were like they’ve outsourced everything overseas which is great but you physically have to get to the device And my this dude rang up his nephew who then read the instructions on Reddit and had to go into a server room and basically you had to physically turn off and on the hardware and just delete a line of code and then you’re all good.

Chris [00:15:04]:
Yeah. But a lot

Sam [00:15:05]:
of places couldn’t do it and they’re scrambling to get people. And one of the places, Southwest Airlines in the States.

Chris [00:15:12]:
Oh, that would have been mental.

Sam [00:15:14]:
No. They’re using a 1992 version of Windows that they found on an old laptop somewhere and that managed to save them. Because that was the thing. Everyone was like, what old hardware have we got that can’t connect to anything or update? Let’s go. So they a lot of places reverted to that. But it was interesting because here in New Zealand, banking was affected. Like, EFTPOS cards weren’t working. Oh, I did see it.

Chris [00:15:37]:
I did see something on

Sam [00:15:38]:
It’s not banking all down.

Chris [00:15:39]:
I went to do a payment on thing and it said

Sam [00:15:44]:
That’s why.

Chris [00:15:44]:
Down and I was like, no.

Sam [00:15:45]:
That’s why. So anyway, it’s good to see that eventually the whole world will come to a crumble due to some silly little update somebody puts out. I’m looking like honestly, it’s what you it’s gonna get to the point where we’re all driving autonomous vehicles or something, and they all just take off.

Chris [00:15:59]:
Throw a little brick.

Sam [00:16:01]:
Oh, yeah. I don’t think it’ll happen probably in our lifetime because I think we’ll understand what to do but eventually I think couple of generations, those will be like,

Chris [00:16:10]:
The idiocracy when they start

Sam [00:16:12]:
high. Adiocracy.

Chris [00:16:13]:
You know, watering the crops with Gatorade. They’ll go, oh, cars stopped. What?

Sam [00:16:18]:
That’s right. Actually, talking about cars stopping, you know what you wanna do, when you’re driving around with quarter of a $1,000,000 worth of cannabis? You wanna have your lights on. That’d be very handy. So this dude driving around with 65 kilos of prepackaged ready to go marijuana, in Auckland. He’s 25 years old, and they pulled him over because his headlights went on.

Chris [00:16:43]:
So what what Do we know what sort of time? Did you say what time?

Sam [00:16:47]:
It was in the evening when he should have had his, lights on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It’s just like bags and bags of it in the back of this car. And they estimate I always find it interesting, So they’re like, it’s the street value. I’m sure they just make up figures sometimes to like make it feel like they’ve taken a bunch off. So 65 kilos, bunch of cash.

Chris [00:17:07]:
65 kilos is a lot.

Sam [00:17:09]:
It is. It’s a I

Chris [00:17:10]:
mean because those bags are not light. They are light. Like it’s not a heavy heavy thing. Right?

Sam [00:17:16]:
Well, once it’s dried and packaged, it’s like big bricks. So it is like solid. It’s not yeah. So estimated street value of almost $800,000. Yeah. So anyway,

Chris [00:17:28]:
and I bet he wasn’t driving a flash car.

Sam [00:17:31]:
No. No. It looks terrible. But it’s like whoever he works for, whoever he’s dealing with, those are gonna be like, what a dumbass. What a dumbass. All they had to do was turn the lights on and they would have never have known.

Chris [00:17:43]:
Exactly.

Sam [00:17:44]:
Unless he’s stoned out of his brain. I don’t know.

Chris [00:17:46]:
I would assume he’s stoned because duh.

Sam [00:17:50]:
I’d say so. Yeah. And to help or not help. Though, these guys is unrelated, but this could help people stay at home and smoke more weed maybe, when their jobs get taken over by a robot that can drill holes. So there’s a huge, one of New Zealand’s largest infrastructure products, which is this giant building down in Dunedin. Actually, it’s the new hospital. Right?

Chris [00:18:15]:
Oh, right. Right. Right. And I think the one we we talked about where they they didn’t have enough doctors to fill up the room?

Sam [00:18:20]:
Yeah. Probably. That sounds about right. We talk about a lot of stuff. And, this construction company and subcontractor, they’re bringing in this robot. It’s made by Hilti, which is a, have you seen any Hilti gear before?

Chris [00:18:33]:
I mean, I’ve heard about it all the time because you read about it all the time, but I don’t think I’ve actually used any.

Sam [00:18:38]:
I’ve just seen it like it’s really high end, like you can get drills and stuff and it’s like the top

Chris [00:18:43]:
of the range stuff. Overseas when I was working in construction. Yeah. Yeah. I would have used some of this stuff. Yeah.

Sam [00:18:49]:
So they’ve got this thing called DryBot and it’s gonna go around and drill 20 1,000 overhead holes that they need for construction, just in general. And it’s gonna they said it’s not to replace people. It’s just to reduce injury and stuff and it can do it but the really cool thing if you read this article they use this program which is sort of like a CAD program, I guess. Yeah. And they 3 d model the whole building to exact specs.

Chris [00:19:19]:
But they they would do that with a robot. Right? They’d send a robot with a lidar to to to map it.

Sam [00:19:25]:
No. It hasn’t been built.

Chris [00:19:26]:
Oh, oh, it’s pre built.

Sam [00:19:28]:
So yeah. Pre built 3 d model and they’re using that, but the robot takes that in and it knows where to do the holes. Right. Gotcha. So it’s semi autonomous. It just goes around and goes Don’t know how big the holes are or anything like that, but it’s just a big tracked robot with an arm with a drill on the end. Yeah. So and the drill in one of these photos isn’t that big.

Sam [00:19:49]:
It’s got a vacuum around it, so it’s sucking up all the debris at the same time.

Chris [00:19:53]:
Yeah. So it’s just a standard sized drill hole.

Sam [00:19:55]:
Yeah. Exactly. It’s so Yeah.

Chris [00:19:57]:
It’s nothing major.

Sam [00:19:58]:
Because when you first hear it, you’re like, oh, must be drilling like a huge thing. No. It’s like a 12 mil drill

Chris [00:20:01]:
bit. Yeah. Exactly.

Sam [00:20:03]:
Exactly. So anyway, I thought it was interesting. Just a random thing that I saw.

Chris [00:20:07]:
Well, because I’ve got a quite a random one to talk about too, and this has been floating around in in our list for a few weeks because we’ve been talking about so many other things. But I I’ll go with the the randomness as well

Sam [00:20:19]:
today. Okay.

Chris [00:20:20]:
And this is randomness technology, pretty much. Because have you heard of saline agroecology? No. Okay. This is fascinating. Right? So well, I I found it’s fascinating. So you’re gonna tell me if you think it’s fascinating.

Sam [00:20:34]:
Well, half the time I have to work out if it’s real or you’ve read it on some random thing.

Chris [00:20:39]:
Well, yeah, this is from LinkedIn to be fair. But so basically this is seawater agriculture.

Sam [00:20:47]:
Okay.

Chris [00:20:48]:
So there’s over 2,000,000,000 acres of salty wasteland across the planet that could be turned into productive farmland without using a single drop of fresh water

Sam [00:20:58]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:20:59]:
Using this method.

Sam [00:21:00]:
Okay.

Chris [00:21:00]:
Right? So, what they’re doing is they’re using plants, rare plants that thrive in seawater, saltwater.

Sam [00:21:08]:
And are they, like, sucking out the salt?

Chris [00:21:10]:
Yeah. They have this there’s a different styles of these plants. Some filter the water out and so that they don’t let the salt in, and some are immune to the salt, so it uses it anyway. So and there’s at least, there’s many different variant, varieties, varieties. Yeah. So, but basically they can create a bit of biodiversity, and it also is is good for carbon capture because they make really long root things, and you

Sam [00:21:49]:
Really long root things. You’re just an amazing They’re

Chris [00:21:51]:
long roots.

Sam [00:21:52]:
Yeah. Long roots. Yeah.

Chris [00:21:53]:
Deep deep roots. Deep. Right. And you when you harvest them, you cut them right off at the base, but it hasn’t killed the plant. No. It just grows again.

Sam [00:22:00]:
Okay.

Chris [00:22:01]:
So, yeah. So it’s it’s really good for animal feed. There’s some high quality vegetables you can get from the absolute green tips of these things. Oh. It does the carbon sequestration through that, through the root storage, and high value cooking oil and biofuels from the seeds that you get out of these things, As well as woody stamps for using in building materials like fiber board. So not like not a tree, but, you know, that sort of

Sam [00:22:32]:
Reconstituted board.

Chris [00:22:33]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Sam [00:22:34]:
Yeah. So I will say the counterpoint which I’ve just looked in the comments that a few people have said They’re saying, how do you ding what is wasteland? Because a lot of the time, it’s its own special ecosystem. Yeah. And it’s doing some stuff.

Chris [00:22:47]:
You don’t wanna take some salty marshland, mangrove swamp that actually is an important part of the the yeah, 100%. These guys are talking about doing it, I think it was UAE.

Sam [00:23:00]:
I mean, why not? With everything crazy happens over there.

Chris [00:23:03]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They they’ve been talking about the Ngoim going a bit, broke. Oh. Because so it was originally, what, 20 miles long, the line?

Sam [00:23:13]:
I can’t remember. It was absolutely

Chris [00:23:14]:
Now it’s 1.5 miles long. It’s it’s what it’s going to be. Mhmm. And the the they’re saying, oh, it might have bankrupted the entire country.

Sam [00:23:23]:
Because that dude, that English guy on YouTube did that video about it, Yeah. I can’t remember his name. But you must have sent it yeah. That did.

Chris [00:23:30]:
I sent it to you because he’s he’s so,

Sam [00:23:33]:
Dry?

Chris [00:23:34]:
Dry. And he kept going, of course, other people are saying this because I don’t want to be chopped to pieces in a

Sam [00:23:40]:
That’s right. That’s right. Yeah. No. I’m not saying that.

Chris [00:23:42]:
I’m not saying this, but what other people have said is he was funny. We might have to find that link and and and show show notes as well. That’s pretty cool.

Sam [00:23:51]:
So are they doing do you know if that’s at research stage?

Chris [00:23:54]:
No. They’re they’re going into a pretty major development right now. So it’s going a little bit past research, but it’s still prototype would

Sam [00:24:04]:
be the word.

Chris [00:24:04]:
Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, they’ve got a how big a I don’t have it written down here. There is a, I think, I want to say 50 square kilometer area that they’re working on.

Sam [00:24:19]:
Okay. That’s a decent size.

Chris [00:24:20]:
Yeah. 20 to 50 square kilometer area that they’re working on.

Sam [00:24:24]:
The figure that Chris just said.

Chris [00:24:25]:
Whatever that

Sam [00:24:25]:
could be. The figure that Chris

Chris [00:24:26]:
just made up.

Sam [00:24:27]:
Hey. They’ve just found, that they’ve found for the very first time a cave on the moon. And the scientists are all rather excited about it. Didn’t realize they didn’t know that. They assumed that there’s caves but they

Chris [00:24:39]:
We’ve talked about lava tunnels before in the moon.

Sam [00:24:42]:
Well, I don’t really know. So they said this is the first time they’ve discovered a cave on the moon. This is from BBC. And they said it’s at least a 100 meters deep and they’re thinking about it could be used to build a permanent base for humans on the moon.

Chris [00:24:55]:
We had this discussion

Sam [00:24:57]:
because I was so excited about it freaking ages ago. Well, you were talk this has literally just come out this week. So I know you talked about something to do with lava tunnels, but we have to we have to figure out what we talked about in the past.

Chris [00:25:10]:
Yeah. Yeah. I thought it was on the moon. I’m I’m sure it was on

Sam [00:25:13]:
the moon. I’m I’m sure it was Mars.

Chris [00:25:14]:
Like Mars? No. I’m sure it was the moon.

Sam [00:25:17]:
I don’t know. They said it’s so deep that they may astronauts potentially have to abseil in and jet packs or a lift or something to get back out. They’ve got a yeah. They’ve they’ve managed to like, use satellite to figure out the depth of it and stuff. And then they’re like, well, there might be more and it might work out really well. So they said that they realized there were probably caves in the moon about 50 years ago. And then in 2010, before we even started podcasting, a lunar thing took some photos of some pits and they thought they were cave entrances, but it was probably like potato camera footage. They probably couldn’t work out what it was.

Chris [00:25:54]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Sam [00:25:54]:
But they couldn’t figure out how deep it was. But now

Chris [00:25:57]:
2010 potato camera.

Sam [00:25:58]:
That’s right. They couldn’t figure how deep it was, but they’ve managed to figure that out now. So I don’t know. It’s it’s way better having that option, I think, instead of just going we’ve got to build a moon base from scratch.

Chris [00:26:09]:
Oh, yeah. And and that’s what we were talking about with the lava tunnels because there were supposed to be so many kilometers of these lava tunnels, and the idea was that they could go in there, effectively send a robot in and spray the the the outside of it with a resin. So you’ve you’ve basically built a shelter before you send a person.

Sam [00:26:31]:
That makes sense. Yeah. Our website has no mention of lava whatsoever. I don’t know. That’s alright.

Chris [00:26:39]:
That’s not the sort of crap we talk about when when we’re not on the podcast, to be fair. I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t have gone on and on about that if I was just talking to you.

Sam [00:26:47]:
No. I think you’re right. Yeah. No. Hey, there’s a swearing parrot that’s got a few people excited. This is in, Niagara at the SPCA. Somebody handed in this parrot. They this woman handed in pepper, which is the name of this parrot and 6 other parakeets.

Sam [00:27:05]:
And it can mimic 30 to 40 sounds. And it just starts off saying colorful things, like I’m going to kick your ass. Like it just starts screaming that out. So they put it up and they said, hey, look, you know, we’ve got this parrot, someone wants to adopt it. They had over 400 applicants wanting this parrot and, they’ve gone with this couple that actually have another swearing parrot and they’re quite young and they know how to look after birds and stuff. And they said, this is really good because these birds last forever.

Chris [00:27:38]:
Yeah.

Sam [00:27:38]:
And they said they can grow up with it. And, they’ve only heard it swear a couple of times and then the other one has sworn back at it once, I think. So they’re hoping to reintroduce them a bit better and they’ll get along. But they said they quite liked it.

Chris [00:27:52]:
Did I ever tell you? I’m pretty sure I have, and I don’t know if I told you on this podcast Okay.

Sam [00:27:57]:
Carry on.

Chris [00:27:57]:
The story about my uncle? Yes. Yes. And yeah. No. You did. Yeah. I did.

Sam [00:28:02]:
He he stayed in a hotel or something. He taught it. He left the recorder. That’s right. He worked for a electronics company.

Chris [00:28:09]:
Sanyo.

Sam [00:28:10]:
Yeah. And he left the recorder there. The bird started swearing at everyone somehow.

Chris [00:28:15]:
Yeah. It’s yeah. He left the

Sam [00:28:18]:
the recorder

Chris [00:28:18]:
overnight just on a loop, and it just said, the boss is a wanker. Basically, something like that. And, so and this is the atrium of the the hotel.

Sam [00:28:29]:
That’s right.

Chris [00:28:29]:
Yeah. All these these parrots in it. And Where

Sam [00:28:32]:
was this on somewhere fancy? Was it overseas, I think.

Chris [00:28:35]:
I can’t

Sam [00:28:35]:
remember where it was. Okay.

Chris [00:28:36]:
This was in the eighties. And so, yeah. It worked really, really well. Too well. They all swore, and the hotel had to sell all the patties.

Sam [00:28:45]:
Excellent.

Chris [00:28:48]:
Excellent. My uncle’s a legend.

Sam [00:28:50]:
That brings us to the end of the podcast this week. You’ve learned a lot. Thank you for coming along with us, whoever you are, in Belgium, France, wherever you are.

Chris [00:28:58]:
USA. USA.

Sam [00:29:02]:
It’s crazy. We do have the 500th episode coming up. We will share some more on that

Chris [00:29:08]:
in the future. Hopefully soon.

Sam [00:29:10]:
At some point.

Chris [00:29:11]:
Yeah. I’ve I’ve been, busy with, the TEDx thing. I I just wanna say

Sam [00:29:16]:
Oh, yeah.

Chris [00:29:17]:
So I’ve had so many people going, oh, we can’t do it. We’re we’re out. Or trying to pull out the bot. And the vice chancellor’s like, no, you can’t pull out now.

Sam [00:29:26]:
It’s good that he’s in that position to do that as opposed to being volunteers and just an organizer. It’s sort of a different dynamic.

Chris [00:29:34]:
There’s a different dynamic, which I I sort of think that’s some of the reason why they said yes in the first place.

Sam [00:29:39]:
Yeah. Yeah.

Chris [00:29:40]:
It’s because they felt they had to, but it’s on a real tight timeline and that pressure is getting to them real quick. But we’ve got Evo 1, Yeah. The first, what we call an evolution workshop Yeah. And somebody just booked their first coaching session quarter of an hour before that, workshop.

Sam [00:30:00]:
Do a speed run through it. So, you know, cool.

Chris [00:30:05]:
Good luck.

Sam [00:30:05]:
Look forward to seeing how that goes. Nothing against your coaching. Your coaching is amazing. Speak for coaching. If you need some, get hold of Chris. But, yeah, craziness.

Chris [00:30:13]:
It’s gonna be interesting.

Sam [00:30:14]:
Okay. Until next time. I’m Sam. I’m Chris. See you.

Chris [00:30:17]:
Bye.