Summary

This week we discuss AI and some of the problems it has been causing us. Chris found something online to help with his mobility issues, find out how that went.

Sam drove another electric car this week. A Hamilton coffee company is the only NZ one to appear on an international list.

We talk about the changes to citizens arrest powers, the Red Bull Trolley Race came back, which leads us to a random story from Chris’s youth.

The Hamilton Festival of Weird is back on soon, Chris is taking part, find out how.

All this and more in the weeks episode.

Links

Hamilton Coffee company gets on global list
Change coming for citizens arrest powers
Red Bull Trolley Came Back with Winners
Hamilton Festival of Weird

Show Transcript

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Sam [00:00:21]:
Hello, and welcome to episode 520 of the Chris and Sam podcast.

Chris [00:00:25]:
I’m Chris.

Sam [00:00:26]:
And I’m Sam. Welcome along to your weekly fix of randomness technology in life. For over ten years. We’ve been bringing you thirty minutes

Chris [00:00:32]:
Life in the fast lane.

Sam [00:00:33]:
Of this, podcast. It’s being listened to around the world by robots or other people. Not sure, but welcome along.

Chris [00:00:41]:
Yeah. We’re we’re feeding AI with with, our knowledge. We could be. We probably are.

Sam [00:00:47]:
I feel sorry about them because sometimes our knowledge is a bit wonky. I had to, talking about that, we use, for a while now, we’ve got the just, what do you call it? The transcription of this podcast on our website. So if you wanna read what we’ve said, it’s it’s there, the transcript. And, using this tool and it uses AI, and every now and then, it just, like, I don’t think it’s that smart. I think sometimes it picks out if our voices are at different levels. And every now and then, I must get it exactly right, because one time, it just goes, Chris, for everything.

Chris [00:01:21]:
And I’m

Sam [00:01:22]:
like, what? Anyway, I managed to find the setting to turn off that automatic naming feature, and now I can go in and pick the right person, and then it does all of them. So it knows. But it’s because the AI tools, when you use them, they’re always tweaking them. So one day, it works really, really well, and then the next day, it’s doing something a bit different. Yes. It’s quite annoying. Yeah.

Chris [00:01:42]:
Yeah. That’s that is annoying. We we come across a little bit of that, with with various things. At the moment, I’m using, we have to do a plagiarism check.

Sam [00:01:53]:
Okay.

Chris [00:01:53]:
And we use Grammarly for that. Yeah. And so I’m creating these assessments, and I don’t think it should matter, but we have example answers for the moderators. Oh, okay. The moderators are gonna see the example answers. Right? And it’s just to give them an idea of what we’re doing. But because I don’t know anything about the print industry Yeah. All my answers are basically AI generated.

Chris [00:02:18]:
Right? But they’re not allowed to be AI.

Sam [00:02:21]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:02:21]:
So I have to AI them and rewrite them.

Sam [00:02:24]:
Wow.

Chris [00:02:25]:
And then there’s it’s only two centimeter sentences worth. It’s like, explain the, use of, the the benefits of using this ink in this context. Okay. And so I get two sentences from AI, and I sort of rewrite it a little bit. Yeah. But I can’t rewrite it too much because it’s only two sentences. It has all that stuff I need. It won’t make any sense.

Chris [00:02:53]:
Exactly. And then it goes, no. This is still AI. And I’m like, but no. And I don’t care, and I’m over it it now.

Sam [00:03:01]:
I think there’s a few university students at the moment getting pinged because I think all the unis use a very specific tool. I don’t know what it is. And I’ve seen online a few people going, hey. This thing, is saying I wrote an AI, and I didn’t. And now, like, you have to basically say versions of your writing every step, and then you can say to him, the whoever, this is how I wrote it.

Chris [00:03:28]:
Right. Yeah. And and, like, I I totally, get it because we don’t wanna be, sourcing materials. It’s funny too because, the unit standards are in there, and so it’ll pick up the unit standard we’ve got from NZQA, and it’s like, you’ve plagiarized this. Yeah. We have. Exactly. Because it’s supposed to be because it’s that unit standard.

Chris [00:03:48]:
Yeah. Yeah. And sometimes it’s a different unit standard that has the same clause in it. And it’s like so we ignore that because that’s what it’s about. But, anyway, anyway, we’re getting off on.

Sam [00:03:57]:
What have you been up to this week?

Chris [00:03:59]:
I have done karate again a couple of, a couple of times since we last spoke. Yeah. My yeah. I I don’t know if I’m getting better or worse. Although, I will say Oh. We will find out because I have ordered some Tiger Drops.

Sam [00:04:16]:
The one the people we spoke to at

Chris [00:04:17]:
FedEx. Cannabis.

Sam [00:04:18]:
Like cannabis. C b I don’t know what it is. Yeah. Can avoid whatever it is.

Chris [00:04:23]:
Yeah. Because did I mention it on the podcast last week, or did I talk to you afterwards? I said I was going to get a mobility consultation the

Sam [00:04:32]:
following day. The podcast, maybe.

Chris [00:04:34]:
Okay. Well, anyway, I said

Sam [00:04:35]:
Oh, no. Yeah. You you paid for it, this online thing.

Chris [00:04:38]:
I paid for a mobility exercise, and they go, oh. Yeah. That’s right. Yeah. Upsell you. So do you wanna hear what they wanted to upsell me to?

Sam [00:04:45]:
Oh, yes. I do. So I guess, laughing. So we knew that there was gonna be an upsell, and these people were from Australia or something, didn’t they?

Chris [00:04:54]:
Yeah. Yeah. So Well, yeah. The yeah. We’ll get to that. Okay. Can you So let me tell the story. So, I bought if you’re on, Facebook and you do anything that will search anything about mobility, you will start getting all these mobility videos showing as you do.

Sam [00:05:12]:
And some ads. I guess.

Chris [00:05:13]:
As ads and and and things like that. And one of them is Vanya Moves. It’s what what her name is. And they have this moves method, and her and her partner, Josh, I think, are Australians, and it’s pretty cool. I paid a hundred bucks to get their toolkit, moves toolkit, and it’s just a lot of videos and stuff. It is pretty cool, and I am using those. And then they say, oh, but you should get the individual coaching.

Sam [00:05:42]:
So It’s more personalized.

Chris [00:05:43]:
Yeah. Book a call with us, and at least you’ll get a program. You you don’t have to take on the coaching. So we get the first thing. I I speak to this guy, Oliver, in New York, and he says, cool. We took for an hour on the phone. Yeah. He goes, sweet.

Chris [00:06:02]:
Okay. I’ll, book you in with a call with Thomas. That’s right. Thomas is Thomas. Yeah. Coaches. Yeah. Sweet.

Chris [00:06:11]:
Okay. So Thomas will do this.

Sam [00:06:12]:
Yep. Good.

Chris [00:06:13]:
Thomas is not one of the coaches. Thomas is the onboarding specialist yep. AKA salesman. Yeah. And he’s in Cyprus.

Sam [00:06:23]:
Of course, he is. I mean, with a name like that, it’s to be expected. And And he’s like, hello, Chris.

Chris [00:06:28]:
And, yeah, he gave me absolutely no. I think I gave him more information than he gave me, so it was it was just a pointless. But how much do you think a six month, and I’m gonna give you the New Zealand dollars. He gave it to me in US dollars, but I couldn’t remember what it’s got right now.

Sam [00:06:46]:
6,000.

Chris [00:06:47]:
Oh, I was gonna be offered a special

Sam [00:06:50]:
Oh, yeah. Good. Price Good.

Chris [00:06:52]:
That was definitely higher than 6,000. The the full price for six months is 13,000 New Zealand dollars.

Sam [00:07:00]:
For 13,000 New Zealand dollars, I want them to live at my house and move my legs for me.

Chris [00:07:06]:
No. This is this is online consultations. No.

Sam [00:07:11]:
This is no one’s buying this. Who’s buying this?

Chris [00:07:13]:
I got the discounted rate at 8,600, which they’re gonna lock in even though I said, oh, I don’t think I

Sam [00:07:19]:
Did you laugh? Were you trying not to laugh? I would have been laughing away.

Chris [00:07:27]:
I was like, yeah. That’s not happening. That’s not happening. So, anyway, so instead, I’ve I’ve ordered some Tiger Drops, which is cannabinoid drops. Actually, they’ve got some rub, and I should have ordered that. And I think I might go back and order the rub for for for my hip. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Sam [00:07:46]:
Also,

Chris [00:07:46]:
I’ll let you know. We will let you know how that goes.

Sam [00:07:49]:
It’s a lot cheaper than their, special offer locked in price. Yeah. My sister had a question for you. Why has it taken you so long to get back to karate?

Chris [00:08:00]:
I don’t know. I I didn’t have a reason to go back, I don’t think. I didn’t have feel like I had anything to prove,

Sam [00:08:09]:
and

Chris [00:08:10]:
I didn’t really know anybody doing it. And, well, you know, like, my contemporaries aren’t so much training these days. Although, when I went down to Wellington, it appeared all of them were. So, goddamn.

Sam [00:08:22]:
They’re like, we never stopped.

Chris [00:08:23]:
Yeah. They never stopped. So I’m like, oh, okay. Well, maybe I should get back into it. Okay. So, yeah, Good question, though. But, yeah. I’m yeah.

Chris [00:08:31]:
I am enjoying it. I’m enjoying some of it, and I’m feeling some of it. That’s probably the the fair way to say it.

Sam [00:08:40]:
Real quick update. This week, I drove a different electric car this week.

Chris [00:08:44]:
Oh, okay.

Sam [00:08:44]:
BYD Atto, which is the bigger version of the Dolphin. It’s the SUV one.

Chris [00:08:49]:
Oh, okay. That might be the one I was And Have you got a picture of it?

Sam [00:08:53]:
No. I’ve got a picture of the door. Okay. For some reason, you imagine you open your driver’s side door. You’ve got the stereo speaker mounted in the, like, front part of that door. Mhmm. And then these guys, for some weird reason, aesthetically decided to put three really long bands of rubber from the center of the speaker to the other end of the door, so it looks like a little guitar. And, I was just, what is this?

Chris [00:09:20]:
That’s pretty cool. I mean, it looks good.

Sam [00:09:22]:
And you could strum them because I was doing it, and it goes, and I’m like, I don’t know what’s going on. It’s quite a nice car to drive. And then for some reason, they thought, oh, normal door handle was not really working for us, so we’ll design a round piece that looks like either a little speaker or an air vent, and then we’ll have this little piece on top.

Chris [00:09:46]:
That’s still on the inside. Oh, right. Yeah.

Sam [00:09:48]:
How you open the door to get out. You pull it Push it down? No. You pull the bit on top backwards.

Chris [00:09:53]:
Oh, okay. Like that. Yeah.

Sam [00:09:56]:
Yeah. Yeah. Pretty cool.

Chris [00:09:57]:
So are are you sold on BYD?

Sam [00:10:01]:
I that’s it.

Chris [00:10:01]:
No. I got no money. No. No. But if the if money wasn’t a problem, would you

Sam [00:10:06]:
consider BYD? Electric car. I don’t know about BYD themselves, but that’s like that’s like a spaceship. It’s very good. It’s got a billion buttons.

Chris [00:10:15]:
Yeah. Okay.

Sam [00:10:17]:
Anyway, so it’s good to do that. And then I got stuck talking to a panel beater of all places that were talking to me about electric cars. They were quite interested in it. And I said I have no idea this is the first time I’ve ever driven it it’s only done 600 kilometers I wanna have a clue they were talking to me about you know when you travel around and you go to a petrol station and she goes oh I I see all these electric cars parked up and she goes are these people just sitting around waiting? She She goes, I find that really annoying. Like, how fast does it take to charge? I was like, I have no idea. Yeah. Yeah. I’ll just pick it up and it’s charged.

Sam [00:10:47]:
I don’t know.

Chris [00:10:47]:
Yeah. Yeah. No. I I agree. I think for a work pool car where it does tend to sit in overnight in the garage Yeah.

Sam [00:10:56]:
Exactly.

Chris [00:10:57]:
Bin, it makes perfect sense. Yeah. You know? But, yeah, I don’t know about like, like, I couldn’t really have one here. I have to have an extension cord hanging out the window to Yeah.

Sam [00:11:06]:
And you just have the they’d be like a slow charge. Yeah. Like a little tiny trickle charge.

Chris [00:11:11]:
Yeah. That that sounds ridiculous. Well, have you been up to anything?

Sam [00:11:15]:
No. That that was it.

Chris [00:11:16]:
That was it. That was it. Okay. Alright.

Sam [00:11:18]:
I’ve done nothing else.

Chris [00:11:19]:
Have have you heard about Hamilton’s, coffee cred?

Sam [00:11:23]:
I saw it, and then I was like, I’ve never heard of this place.

Chris [00:11:26]:
Oh, really? No. I’ve I’ve been there.

Sam [00:11:28]:
I don’t even know where it was. I had to look it up.

Chris [00:11:30]:
Oh, okay.

Sam [00:11:30]:
Never heard of it.

Chris [00:11:31]:
So before we get on to what I’m talking about there, I just wanted to mention, when I was in Wellington Yeah. I was talking to dad and his partner, Carol. Dad’s been with Carol for, you know, forty years or something. And we talk about, coffee. Like, we’re talking about this place we went to to get coffee locally. Oh, I don’t like that coffee there. And then they go, oh, the best coffee we’ve ever had. Like, totally changed their thing.

Chris [00:11:58]:
The best coffee we ever had was at a place in Hamilton.

Sam [00:12:01]:
Okay. I’m like, really?

Chris [00:12:03]:
And you’re like, where? Where? So they described it. It it has to be Scott’s Epicurean. Yeah. It was Scott’s Epicurean.

Sam [00:12:10]:
They won a couple awards a few years ago for, I don’t know, food everything, I think, like, top. I don’t know if they’ve been doing anything recently, but Yeah. Whatever.

Chris [00:12:19]:
But dad’s, like I because this would have been a few years ago. It’d be two or three years ago, probably. Dad’s, 80. Carol’s around the same age, obviously. And they, they’re not very passionate about anything really, but at politics talk. Goddamn it. But, yeah, they went on about this coffee for a good five minutes. I was like, oh my god.

Chris [00:12:42]:
I’ll have to mention that. But, anyway so what I wanted to talk about the story was, the Hamilton’s Rocket Coffee Roasters.

Sam [00:12:50]:
I actually I remember what their logo looks like now, so I have seen it before. But I didn’t know it was Hamilton maybe.

Chris [00:12:56]:
Yeah. Yeah. They are ranked sixty second in the world, the worldwide list of top coffee shops.

Sam [00:13:03]:
Does it go to a hundred on that list?

Chris [00:13:06]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Top 100. Top 100. Yep. So he came in in sixty second.

Chris [00:13:11]:
So he’s the only one in New Zealand that made the list.

Sam [00:13:14]:
That I’d be in I’d be interested to know what other people in the coffee industry in New Zealand, especially Wellington Yeah. Or Auckland, really thought about this. Because I don’t know, like and who judged it? Like Yeah. Because it could

Chris [00:13:28]:
be just one list, and these guys happen to send their beans in or however they judge it. I’m assuming that’s how they do it.

Sam [00:13:34]:
No. I thought someone would be traveling around. I don’t know. Would they?

Chris [00:13:38]:
I don’t know.

Sam [00:13:39]:
Because either way, they’re not going to get all the entries from wherever, or is this one of those competition and things where they’re like, hey. Pay us some money to enter, like, the stupid podcasting awards in New Zealand. Yeah. And they’re the only New Zealand One that sort of entered. Yeah. But I won’t take away from them. Apparently, really good. People raved about them.

Chris [00:13:57]:
Yeah. Yeah. So The top spot was taken by Toby’s Estate Coffee Roasters in Australia

Sam [00:14:03]:
Yeah. To be fair. It’d be really cool to have, like, Rocket or whoever thought that whoever’s at a pretty good level go to the Australian one and go, you know what? It’s a %

Chris [00:14:17]:
right.

Sam [00:14:18]:
Yeah. Like, I just I don’t know. Yeah. You know what? Because I wonder if laypeople like us, if we went to this one in Australia, we’d be like, oh my gosh. This is the best thing I’ve ever had, or we’d be just like, this is a good coffee.

Chris [00:14:29]:
Because I’ve been to the on the other side of the, roasters, they’ve got the coffee shop, and it’s called something different on Victoria Street side. There’s a little coffee shop.

Sam [00:14:39]:
Oh. At

Chris [00:14:39]:
the back of it is the roasters. I’m pretty sure that’s how it works. And, I’ve had it there. I’ve been there a couple times years ago.

Sam [00:14:46]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:14:47]:
And, yeah, I I it was nice. Yeah. I mean, it was a good coffee, but I I I’m not a a connoisseur. Ah. But if anybody’s listening to this and they’re in Hamilton and they happen to be a connoisseur Let us know. Might be talking to you, Quentin. Let us know. Is Rocket up there? You know? I I’d be Yeah.

Chris [00:15:05]:
I’ve never heard

Sam [00:15:06]:
anyone mention it at work, but I think, honestly, my work goes to whatever’s the closest to it.

Chris [00:15:12]:
Yeah. You work in a council.

Sam [00:15:15]:
No. They they’ve got a lot of spare time. They can wander all over the place. Sierra Coffee just shut down in Center Place if you

Chris [00:15:22]:
want. It?

Sam [00:15:22]:
Yeah. They at least came up, and they’re like, we’re out.

Chris [00:15:25]:
Yeah. I think it’s an expensive front franchise, to be honest. All franchises.

Sam [00:15:29]:
Oh, all franchises are crazy. There’s a change coming for this citizen’s arrest law, so Brian Tamaki is rather excited about this, of all people.

Chris [00:15:39]:
Oh, god. Okay. Have we spoken enough of this dude?

Sam [00:15:43]:
No. So, basically, the government, for whatever reason, because they’re useless a little bit, they haven’t been able to get the police numbers up, so they’ve decided to put in this bill or whatever they’re gonna do to legislation to tweak the citizens, arrest law. And, basically, we had one apparently, we had one, but now the change is, before you weren’t allowed to citizens arrest anyone from 6PM at night till whatever time in the morning and and nothing under a thousand dollars. Now it’s a free for all, twenty four hours a day is what they want, any amount, and you’re allowed to restrain them. And you just ring the police and go, hey. I’ve got this guy shoplifting, basically. I’ve tied him up. What do you want me to do? And they’ve said the real thing is

Chris [00:16:34]:
There’s all these security guards all around the country with chubbies right now. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly.

Sam [00:16:40]:
Exactly. They’re all rather excited. But the the legal thing is you can only use reasonable force, and they’re gonna have to prove that at some point what reasonable force is. The experts or the people that were advising the government said, if you bring this in, there will be deaths. People are gonna die in retail, basically. So, anyway, good on you.

Chris [00:17:02]:
Purge is coming. It’s it’s

Sam [00:17:05]:
the purge might be coming for Luxon, actually. He’s, not doing very well because they’ve all realized he’s an idiot. And he’s a Really? And he’s a CEO, and he can’t answer any questions unless he’s been told, like, prepped for it. And, apparently, Mike Hosking’s went hard on him today or yesterday and was like, what do you like yeah. So Mike Hosking doesn’t like this guy now because he can’t answer questions. He goes, I haven’t been briefed on that. And he was, I don’t know what he was calling him up on, but I saw that the headlines were like, yeah. We all say

Chris [00:17:36]:
Yeah. I gotta say that that whole national government is a total joke. Yeah. Democracy obviously doesn’t work because we keep voting idiots. Like, not just us. Everybody around the world apparently votes in idiots. But then the opposite of democracy is also not great either.

Sam [00:17:57]:
I know. It’s a bit crazy.

Chris [00:17:58]:
So, yeah. Anyway, actually, let’s speak about that for a second.

Sam [00:18:02]:
Okay.

Chris [00:18:03]:
Because I I did mention this. I don’t wanna talk about Trump, but I will have to say this because it’s In passing. In passing. It it’s such a change. So this week, I don’t know if you were aware about the UN vote. So there’s a UN vote Okay. For condemning, Russia for its, illegal aggression or whatever you call it against Ukraine.

Sam [00:18:27]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:18:27]:
So it’s it’s it doesn’t mean a lot. It’s a, you know, vote for it, for aggression. And so all the European countries obviously voted to condemn them. Notable country, it’s like India who’s part of BRICS. Yeah. You know what BRICS is. Right? That’s the Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa are the the key ones, but there’s 14. BRICS is bigger than the g seven now.

Chris [00:18:53]:
In terms of their GDP, by the way. Alright. So we called about the g seven. It’s not the big player anymore.

Sam [00:18:59]:
Anyway Okay.

Chris [00:19:00]:
Anyway, so, right, India and China, who are part of BRICS, what do you call it? Abstained from the votes. They didn’t vote.

Sam [00:19:11]:
Okay.

Chris [00:19:12]:
But do you know who did vote for saying Russia is perfectly justified in their actions?

Sam [00:19:19]:
Oh, Trump, I’m guessing.

Chris [00:19:20]:
Yeah. The the ones that that voted that Russia is good to go are Russia, North Korea, Hungary, Eritrea, Belarus, and The USA. The hell is Eritrea? It’s a it’s a small country in Africa, I believe.

Sam [00:19:37]:
I mean, you don’t know what the country is and you’ve never heard of it before.

Chris [00:19:41]:
Eritrea. Eritrea.

Sam [00:19:42]:
There’s a a high likely chance it’s in Africa somewhere.

Chris [00:19:45]:
Yeah. Although, I I’ve made that mistake before, and it’s actually been South America, and I thought it was in Africa. I forgot which one it is. But anyway, so that happens as well. But yeah. So, so, anyway, it’s like, holy crap. You you The USA has switched sides, basically. It’s it’s Yeah.

Chris [00:20:03]:
Literally switch sides. So on that, I’ve been thinking about these you know about the shadow fleet. Right? You know much about the shadow fleet?

Sam [00:20:12]:
What’s the shadow fleet?

Chris [00:20:13]:
Shadow fleet is a fleet of old crappy, falling apart, tankers,

Sam [00:20:20]:
right,

Chris [00:20:21]:
that are uninsured Yeah. When I say old, because they they’re only supposed to last five or ten years or something, and these are, like, ten to fifteen years old or something like that. Right? They are a league because there’s sanctions against Russian oil. Yeah. So that they’re, you know, they’re uninsured because they have Russian oil on board, and nobody will insure them.

Sam [00:20:43]:
Okay.

Chris [00:20:44]:
So they’re, like, ticking time bombs going everywhere. Yeah.

Sam [00:20:46]:
Okay.

Chris [00:20:47]:
Lots of ports won’t let them dock because they’ve got no insurance, and the risk of calamity is high Yeah. Yeah. And stuff. And so there’s all these this shadow fleets. So it’s like 400 of these tankers around the world.

Sam [00:21:01]:
That’s a lot.

Chris [00:21:01]:
It’s a lot because Russia is trying to get rid of this oil. And a lot of them will go out into the middle of the ocean with another Ah, and then unload? And and pump across to the one that will go into port. And that’s how they

Sam [00:21:14]:
And then just go, I got this oil. I don’t know where I found it.

Chris [00:21:17]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it’s a bit dodgy. But I’m like, why doesn’t Ukraine get some special forces guys, their guys, and start jumping these ships? They can, like, take over the ship. They can pump it into their own one and sell it at proper rate because they know don’t have sanctions on them

Sam [00:21:36]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:21:36]:
And screw up the, Russian’s income and get some money. I reckon that’s the way to do it because the other option, which I thought was cooler first, which is probably not No problem. Is is to bring back letter letters of mark. You remember letters of mark? No. So in the fifteen hundreds

Sam [00:21:55]:
Okay.

Chris [00:21:56]:
1415, ’16 hundreds, ’17 hundreds even, that’s how wars were fought. Alright. They would say, you have a letter of mark. Anytime you see a Dutch ship, you can board it and rip everything out of

Sam [00:22:07]:
it. Okay.

Chris [00:22:08]:
And and we’ll take a bit of tax on that, and that that is literally piracy.

Sam [00:22:13]:
Yep.

Chris [00:22:14]:
And that’s where pirates came from. They were people that were given letters of mark from their country, and they just raided everybody else’s shipping.

Sam [00:22:21]:
Okay. Well, there you go. Well,

Chris [00:22:23]:
you could do that, but, I don’t know. That might be difficult. Anyway, sorry.

Sam [00:22:28]:
There we go. Hopefully, you’re still with us. The Red Bull trolley Grand Prix came back after a ten year hiatus recently.

Chris [00:22:38]:
Forward to seeing some of that, and I’ve I’ve missed it. I saw some ads.

Sam [00:22:42]:
Yeah. I keep seeing the ads, and I assume there’s footage online somewhere. I hope so. I don’t know anyway. Well, I haven’t looked at for that. But, basically, ten years ago, a team from, Red Stag Timber won, and they had a giant red stag as how they won. And they came back this year, and they won again with a ten year hiatus. This time, their thing looks like a log, and they were dressed up like Flintstones characters.

Sam [00:23:08]:
So it sort of looked like a Flintstone thing.

Chris [00:23:10]:
That sounds good.

Sam [00:23:12]:
That’s it there. Going pretty hard. Cool. So I think, like,

Chris [00:23:16]:
this is Where is it?

Sam [00:23:17]:
Auckland Domain.

Chris [00:23:18]:
Okay. Yep.

Sam [00:23:19]:
And, you know, this is the one where you go down, and it’s got hay bales and little ramps and stuff, and you see people fall out and crack their head and stuff. It’s good family fun. And, but I think it’s really cool. Like, they obviously stopped it ten years ago for Safe dealers. Yeah. Maybe. So maybe there’s no ramps on this one. Maybe it’s a bit safer, and it was just a pure race.

Sam [00:23:40]:
I’m not sure because we haven’t found the footage. Oh, here we go. The fastest time on the yabba dabba doo proving that sometimes brakes are just a suggestion. They set the 2025 track record at 55 just, yeah, just under fifty six seconds. Wow. So it’s pretty quick. And the People’s Choice, intents, rovering in tents rovering, and tents as in the tent that you sleep in, won over the people, because you get voted on

Chris [00:24:10]:
Style or whatever.

Sam [00:24:11]:
Style and coming in and doing all that sort of stuff. And I think it’s great that Red Bull brought this back. Like, I think it’s just some fun thing that we need. I know what you’re thinking. No. You don’t. Okay. What are you gonna say?

Chris [00:24:23]:
I I I we did, some, raft things in Wellington when I was a kid.

Sam [00:24:29]:
Okay.

Chris [00:24:30]:
And it it was every year, and it was for charity and stuff like that. And you build these rafts, and you had to go out and around the, the fountain and Oriental Bay and Yeah. To the Okay. The the beach. And so one year, I I jumped in with the fire crew, and we Have I told you this story?

Sam [00:24:49]:
No. Okay. No. Carry on. Here we go.

Chris [00:24:52]:
This is the only time I’ve ever feared for my life in New Zealand for being lynched.

Sam [00:24:58]:
How old are you?

Chris [00:25:00]:
Oh, I was Teenager. 15, 16. Something like that. A teenager.

Sam [00:25:04]:
Yeah. So you’re like, hi. I’ll join your team.

Chris [00:25:07]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I think mom knew one of the firemen that

Sam [00:25:09]:
Your mom knew everyone. Yeah.

Chris [00:25:10]:
I knew, bro. So, anyway, so I get on this fire crew, and they’ve got the hugest, most humongous rut. There’s no way we would And

Sam [00:25:18]:
it was made out of, like, barrels and stuff strapped together? Or

Chris [00:25:21]:
upright 40 gallon drums.

Sam [00:25:23]:
Upright. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

Chris [00:25:24]:
Stretched together. There was 10 of us on this thing, I think. It was a a bunch of us. Okay. And you we could barely move it. It was just a big floating dock. Yeah. But they had this huge, they had this hand pumped fire extinguisher like it came from a museum or something in the middle of it.

Sam [00:25:44]:
Okay.

Chris [00:25:44]:
And this is gonna be fun. Right? So I’m like, oh, they’re gonna squirt everybody because there’s lots of water pistols and all that shit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is gonna be great. They filled it with blood and bone.

Sam [00:25:57]:
For what reason? I think

Chris [00:26:00]:
to piss everyone off, they’re spraying everybody’s on the parade overlooking

Sam [00:26:05]:
Hang on.

Chris [00:26:06]:
So They’re spraying the public on the parade with this blood and bone, which just stank. It was filthy. Firefighters. Far way out towards the thing. It started turning back because everybody else is going around and coming back. Everybody’s screaming out. As we’re coming to the beach, there’s a huge angry mob. I dived off.

Chris [00:26:28]:
I’m not a fireman. I don’t look like a fireman. I’ve got a fresh up T shirt on. I tied to them.

Sam [00:26:34]:
You’re like, come out

Chris [00:26:35]:
of here. Yeah. I did a booty, and I swam around the side and got off the beach. And I’m like, I’m not with those guys. I’m not with those guys. What a random

Sam [00:26:45]:
thing to do.

Chris [00:26:48]:
It was nuts.

Sam [00:26:49]:
So they’re like, okay. We’ll we’ll build this we’ll build this raft, and I’ve got this antique squirty thing. Hey. It freaking shocked me. Yeah. I know. Like long distance. I was

Chris [00:27:02]:
pretty impressed with that thing.

Sam [00:27:04]:
You you could do that and shoot people with water,

Chris [00:27:06]:
and then you’d mean fire.

Sam [00:27:07]:
You’d still have annoyed people, but it’ll be like, that’s okay. It’s a firefighter. It makes sense. They’ve got the big squirty cannon. What a great idea. And then somebody, some dick of a firefighter, I’m assuming, goes, you know what? I’ve got some blood and bone. Let’s make everyone super stinky. In a place where we can’t easily get away from as we’re floating around in our giant floating dock thing.

Sam [00:27:30]:
Who what a silly, silly idea. What a great story.

Chris [00:27:34]:
But

Sam [00:27:35]:
okay.

Chris [00:27:37]:
So, alright. Well, I I think that’s what we could end on, but I will I do wanna yell out that we’ve got a I as we’re listening to this Yes. It’ll be Sunday is published. This coming Thursday, I will be performing at the Hamilton Weird Festival, whatever it’s called.

Sam [00:27:56]:
Doing what? What do you

Chris [00:27:57]:
know about the Fast and the Furious?

Sam [00:27:59]:
The movies. They’re great.

Chris [00:28:01]:
Yeah. So the original one, starred Roger Corman, in 1954.

Sam [00:28:08]:
No one’s that old to remember, but carry on.

Chris [00:28:11]:
Yeah. No. 1954. I’m not really that old to remember, to be fair. I’m I’m I’m a cast member in that. So how this is this improv thing. Right?

Sam [00:28:21]:
Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Chris [00:28:22]:
Works is they’ve they’ve, cut the film a little bit so it’s a little bit shorter, but they’ve, cut all the sound out. Yeah. We have a live musician,

Sam [00:28:31]:
which

Chris [00:28:32]:
will be Jeremy Mayle.

Sam [00:28:33]:
Oh, okay. Yeah.

Chris [00:28:34]:
Because Maddie wasn’t able to make it because Maddie normally does it. Yeah.

Sam [00:28:36]:
I was gonna say it.

Chris [00:28:37]:
Anyway, so Jeremy’s got a standard. So we got a live scoring musician, and then we’ve got a a a team of performers on stage with the mics, and we will be doing the words and the, ad libbing as it is. Alright. Improvising all the thing based on some of the asks that we have of the audience. So the audience will talk

Sam [00:28:57]:
to us. Sit down and

Chris [00:28:59]:
Yeah. So you get to watch this thing, and it’ll be quite amusing. I hope. You say that. I say that because I haven’t seen it done yet. So I’ve watched the movie. We’ve had a chat about it. We’ve got a practice next week just to because I don’t even know what we’re doing.

Chris [00:29:14]:
And they’re like, oh, do you need to practice? I’m like, I’d love to see how it works. So, we’re gonna have a a bit of a a run through one or two scenes next week just to get an idea of it. And then, yeah, Thursday. So I’ve got a link to the, there’s a Facebook event. It’s it’s a, so it doesn’t cost anything. Well, it costs what you wanna give it, but it is a small venue. So,

Sam [00:29:36]:
Where are they doing that one?

Chris [00:29:38]:
I can’t remember the name of the bar. It’s around by Navara, but further back, opposite the Barn T. I don’t

Sam [00:29:45]:
know. I have no idea. I know what you’re talking about, but Yeah.

Chris [00:29:47]:
I know I know where it is, but I haven’t been there, so I’m like, oh, okay. And he goes, oh, yeah. They do, musical things there every now and again, you know, bands and stuff there every now.

Sam [00:29:56]:
Okay. Well, that sounds interesting. I look forward to hearing how that goes. I’m in Wellington, and I get back on Thursday. So, a, not sure about the podcast next week. We’ll see how that goes.

Chris [00:30:07]:
Yeah. When when are we gonna record that? Yeah.

Sam [00:30:09]:
I don’t know. And, yeah, we’ll we’ll see what happens. So no doubt I’ll have some stories.

Chris [00:30:14]:
Alright. And I’ve got filming, on Saturday.

Sam [00:30:16]:
Oh, it’s all go.

Chris [00:30:17]:
Yes. So that this, well, actually, before you listen to this, I will have been filming. So that should be fun fun fun.

Sam [00:30:26]:
Okay. Well, until next time, whenever that is. I’m Sam. I’m Chris. See you.

Chris [00:30:30]:
Bye.