Summary
In this weeks episode find out filming went for Chris in Auckland, while Sam went to the Balloons over Waikato Night Glow for the first time.
We talk about the movie, The Substance, Gary’s economics gets a mention and so does the new break through car chargers BYD is bringing out.
We have a couple of Kickstart of Dropkick as well.
Go have a listen and let us know what you liked.
Links
Kickstarter – MetMo Fractal Vice
Kickstarter – Doze – Micro Geiger
The Substance
Gary’s Economics
BYD’s Latest Breakthrough
Show Transcript
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Sam [00:00:21]:
Hello, and welcome to episode 524 of the Chris and Sam podcast.
Chris [00:00:26]:
I’m Chris.
Sam [00:00:26]:
And I’m Sam. Welcome along to your weekly fix of randomness technology in life. 50% of us is drinking tequila right now, and you will have
Chris [00:00:34]:
to guess who. And 50% of us was drinking tequila just as that started and just about choked on it.
Sam [00:00:41]:
This is what a professional podcast operation, does.
Chris [00:00:45]:
Funny you should say that, actually. Professional podcast operation.
Sam [00:00:49]:
Have you sold us to someone?
Chris [00:00:51]:
No. No. But I was talking to a podcast professional
Speaker D [00:00:54]:
Yes.
Chris [00:00:55]:
Yesterday. I was working with one, in fact. Yeah. Our our mate guy. So we were talking, at a lunch break with, the, person the the client Yeah. From the council that that we’re working for. A good friend of her, Guy’s, knows because they’re in the film community as well, so
Sam [00:01:12]:
they have a
Chris [00:01:12]:
good chat about that. Yep. And so we’re just having random chat, and and Go was talking about all the stuff he’s doing for podcast. So he’s got a bit of a podcast school going on. I didn’t know that, did you?
Sam [00:01:24]:
Didn’t know about the school. I know he had a studio.
Chris [00:01:26]:
Yeah. I know he’s got a studio, and he’s got a teleprompter in the studio too Yep. Which is good to know because, yeah, we might end up throwing some more businesses away. So I I worked with Guy Pigdon. If you’ve not heard of him, he has been he’s directed quite a few things around about the place, but most, conspicuously his films, I Survived a Zombie Holocaust, which I cannot recommend enough, and older. Yes. Which is his more dramatic thing, which I’m I’m not going to recommend as much because it’s not my thing. But the I survived the zombie holocaust, I totally tell everybody about it.
Speaker A [00:02:07]:
And new followers is the short horror that they’ve just won a bunch of awards with
Chris [00:02:11]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:02:12]:
And, got a bunch of funding, and I think they’re turning it into a feature.
Chris [00:02:17]:
Oh, did have they got that?
Sam [00:02:18]:
I don’t know. I think they’re working on it.
Chris [00:02:21]:
Working on it. Because that is a really clever, clever short film. I really, really enjoyed that. And it it played at Monsterfest in, London. Is that Monsterfest in London? I think it is. He was wearing the Monsterfest, t shirt yesterday.
Sam [00:02:35]:
I don’t know if it’s Australia or US maybe. Yeah. I One of them.
Chris [00:02:39]:
Somewhere. There’s so many.
Sam [00:02:40]:
I’m sure. And and
Chris [00:02:41]:
and I know he has got into one of the ones in London. I just can never remember which is which.
Sam [00:02:45]:
Oh, that’s cool.
Chris [00:02:46]:
So that was my day yesterday. I’m a bit brain dead because You’re old. Not because of the tequila.
Sam [00:02:51]:
Because you’re old. Hey. Don’t give it away.
Chris [00:02:54]:
Don’t give
Sam [00:02:54]:
it away. We don’t know who’s drinking.
Chris [00:02:56]:
A long drive yesterday, a big day, and then I’ve been slammed with loads of work.
Sam [00:03:01]:
And you don’t drive much. So
Chris [00:03:03]:
Yeah. And and, yeah, Sam pulls up at my car park right outside my door. I’m like, who’s this weirdo? Who’s parking in my park? And they’re like, it’s Sam. Oh my god. Is it Thursday already?
Sam [00:03:16]:
That’s right. That’s right.
Chris [00:03:17]:
Even know what day it is. So
Sam [00:03:18]:
Don’t even need to schedule these things. Someone just turns up and, ready to go. Forecast time. Yeah. Ready to go. I saw a movie last night. Have you heard of the substance?
Speaker A [00:03:28]:
Oh,
Chris [00:03:28]:
yes. I’ve seen the substance. We were talking about it yesterday, actually.
Sam [00:03:31]:
Oh, I I’d never heard of it. They talked about it at work, and then, it made the opening to the Oscars a lot more, make a lot more sense.
Chris [00:03:43]:
Alright. But yeah.
Sam [00:03:44]:
So because, yeah.
Chris [00:03:46]:
I I didn’t see the opening of the Oscars, but yeah.
Sam [00:03:49]:
Oh, yeah. So, basically, Conan O’Brien’s hosting, and they knocked
Chris [00:03:52]:
Oh, yeah. No. No. I did see that. I saw that clip, and I saw it on YouTube. Yeah.
Sam [00:03:56]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So I saw that clip. We’re not gonna spoil it for you, but you need to watch the substance. This is a film that I would expect Adam to show us at a film night.
Chris [00:04:05]:
I know. Adam’s the one that told me I must watch it,
Speaker D [00:04:08]:
and that’s
Chris [00:04:09]:
why I watched it.
Sam [00:04:10]:
Okay. Good. I I can’t remember if you told me about it, but if you did, I forgot. And they were just talking about it at work, and they didn’t really say much. They were just like, oh, it’s pretty cool. Rah rah rah. And I was like, oh, okay. Cool.
Sam [00:04:21]:
It’s on TV and see it on demand, so Seems to watch it for free.
Chris [00:04:25]:
Oh, is it at the moment? Cool. Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh. It’s it’s really good. Demi Moore’s in it. She I’m not giving anything away, but and we talked about this probably too long yesterday when we were chatting because you know what it is when when you talk to another film guy about how cool that opening with the star is on the
Speaker D [00:04:43]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Chris [00:04:44]:
Because that opening gives so much context to what’s to follow without any real words said or anything. It’s just so clever, and then it finishes on the star as well. It’s it’s such a good
Speaker A [00:04:57]:
Yes.
Chris [00:04:57]:
Such a good film.
Sam [00:04:58]:
But, also, it sort of explains the film and after that in, like, thirty seconds with the eggs. Yeah. And there’s not much explanation of anything else. Because I thought, the people that are offering the substance, we’re gonna try and cash in on it somehow. Like, I thought that’s where it was gonna go. Lots of practical effects.
Chris [00:05:19]:
Yeah. I I was not a huge fan of the ending because it just went on a lot lot longer than I wanted to.
Sam [00:05:26]:
So so for no one who’s watched it, go watch this on TVZ on Demand three. This is the blurb. A fading celebrity takes a black market drug, a cell replicating substance that temporarily creates a younger, better version of herself. There we go. I felt near the end because since Sarah was watching it with me, and she was just like, what are we watching? Who who told you about this? And I said, the people at work. And she goes, what’s wrong with them? Because because there is a point where you think it’s just gonna finish, and then it carries on. Yeah. And I got the feeling that, a, they were trying to pay homage or whatever you wanna call it to maybe some of the eighties films and different things, or the special effects guys were like, we’ve got all this stuff.
Sam [00:06:10]:
Let’s just keep going. See what we can do. Because you were just like one point, you’re like, okay.
Chris [00:06:15]:
Yeah. Because I thought it finished, like, three times, and it just keeps going.
Sam [00:06:18]:
Yeah. Because it was cool.
Chris [00:06:19]:
It was good. But, yeah, I It’s two hours and twenty one minutes long, so it is quite long. No. And and I didn’t click who it was at first, Demi Moore. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker D [00:06:30]:
Yeah. I
Chris [00:06:31]:
got because did she get an award for that in this?
Sam [00:06:34]:
She got nominated. She got nominated. So that’s why the Oscar thing, she’s at the front row, and he says, Conan goes, oh, thanks so much for that Demi. And I was just like, I don’t know what that clip is.
Chris [00:06:46]:
Like, I had no reference. No. I I’d I’d seen it before that, so I knew exactly what it was.
Sam [00:06:50]:
Because I it was just like, okay. I don’t know why I haven’t seen it mentioned before, really.
Chris [00:06:55]:
I thought I’d come
Speaker D [00:06:56]:
across I thought I would’ve said
Chris [00:06:57]:
I’m sure you I’m sure you did. Because I know, Adam told me about it, and I could say, yeah. Yeah. He told me a few times, and I’ve gotta see it. And then Moe at work took was talking about it. I’m like, that’s the thing Adam told me to see, and she’s got good taste. So
Sam [00:07:10]:
This is definitely a Adam film. I was watching it direct. Upset. I was
Chris [00:07:13]:
like, this is
Sam [00:07:14]:
the kind of thing Adam would show us, but not tell us anything in which we sit there going, what is this?
Chris [00:07:19]:
What the hell’s going on?
Sam [00:07:20]:
So this is cool because it’s sort of like a real mainstream accessible movie that’s
Chris [00:07:26]:
So that has been our entertainment portion. Now we’re going to move to our educational portion of the, podcast.
Sam [00:07:32]:
He’s excited about this, but I’m I’m not so sure.
Chris [00:07:36]:
I wanted to I’ve I’ve been red pill by, Gary from Gary’s Economics, Gary Stevenson. So he’s got a YouTube channel called Gary’s Economics. And, apparently, it’s taking off quite a bit, so I thought I’d just randomly come across it. But now it’s everywhere, and I Never heard of it. Was possibly not going to talk about it the other week. And then after that, he was interviewed by Stephen Bartlett of Diary of a CEO.
Sam [00:08:06]:
Oh, that dude. Yep.
Chris [00:08:07]:
Stephen Bartlett start or Diary of CEO started to do these, debates. Yeah. I think he’s done a couple. I’m not like it’s a new thing. But anyway, so you got, Gary from Gary’s Economics Yeah. Who I’ve just started watching and following
Speaker D [00:08:21]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:08:21]:
And Daniel Priestley, who I’ve got three of his books, love his stuff, and he’s all about, entrepreneurship entrepreneurship. He’s got a really good book called Oversubscribed.
Sam [00:08:32]:
Oh, I’ve heard of that book.
Chris [00:08:34]:
Yeah. And Key Person of Influence is his big book.
Sam [00:08:37]:
Oh, you you like that you like that book.
Chris [00:08:39]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I’ve I’ve talked about that stuff before. So anyway, so that was and it was pretty good, except they were a little bit at loggerheads. And Gary didn’t come across as well, and I don’t think he
Sam [00:08:53]:
So he’s not good
Chris [00:08:54]:
in a act articulate.
Sam [00:08:56]:
So he’s not good in a life situation, maybe?
Chris [00:08:59]:
He’s very passionate, but he doesn’t he’s not great in discussing things. So he’s a a fairly young, millionaire. I think he’s, oh, say, fairly young, 30 or whatever.
Sam [00:09:09]:
Yeah. So, yes, very young.
Chris [00:09:10]:
He’s, he grew up on the wrong side of the tracks in London. You know? He’s got a London accent, working class accent. He was a a maths prodigy, basically, in a poor family. He went to London School of Economics
Sam [00:09:24]:
Yep.
Chris [00:09:25]:
Which is highbrow. Everybody around him is rich and he’s not.
Sam [00:09:28]:
Okay.
Chris [00:09:29]:
And then he got a job tray as a trader, and he was getting paid at at his best, like, £2,000,000 a year. Yeah. So, doing really well, obviously, there. And his whole thing is that the so he’s an economist, and he loves you know, that’s his thing. His his jam’s just the economy. He go and he said to Daniel, he goes, I don’t know how to make money. I don’t know how to run a business or anything, but I know the economy. I bet on the economy.
Chris [00:09:56]:
That’s my job as a trader. I bet on the economy. I can see what’s happening. And he said, the real problem that we have economically forget this vote red, vote blue, though all the same, the big problem is inequality. That’s what’s killing everything economically. Okay. And what I like this is so I’ve watched loads of his videos. Mhmm.
Chris [00:10:19]:
And what I liked in one of them was the way he described it. So Rishi Sunak Rishi Sunak, who was the old UK Prime Minister
Speaker D [00:10:28]:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Sam [00:10:29]:
Couple of
Chris [00:10:29]:
years ago or whatever. Whatever. One of the richest people in UK. Right?
Sam [00:10:33]:
Because That’s right.
Chris [00:10:34]:
Yeah. Because when he got elected, it was like he’s got more money than the king type thing. His just his income off investments at 5% would be around £500,000 a week.
Sam [00:10:48]:
A week? Okay.
Chris [00:10:50]:
Right.
Sam [00:10:50]:
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Look at that.
Chris [00:10:52]:
The point of that is you can’t spend that. No. You get £500,000 a week in income. Yeah. You cannot spend it. So what do you do? You buy assets. What’s the assets do you buy? Houses, property.
Sam [00:11:08]:
Okay. Like neighborhoods.
Chris [00:11:10]:
Yeah. Neighborhoods. Yeah. But as you buy and his kids do the same. Like, you know, it’s a whole family thing, so he’ll be giving money to his kids, and they’ll be buying houses and stuff. Yeah. But when you’re buying those assets, the prices go up because there’s less of them for anyone else to buy.
Speaker D [00:11:25]:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Chris [00:11:26]:
Why the middle class, quote, unquote, middle class Yeah. Can’t afford to buy anything. No.
Sam [00:11:31]:
That’s right. It’s happening here, I think.
Chris [00:11:32]:
So he said in in one of his videos, and I quite like this, he said, as a thought experiment, like, this is not what I’m recommending we do, but this is a thought experiment. If we text the these rich people, say say like him, we text them a billion dollars.
Sam [00:11:48]:
Okay.
Chris [00:11:49]:
You know? So he’s got billions and billions. He got hundreds of billions. Right? We text him a billion dollars
Sam [00:11:53]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:11:54]:
And we just burned that money.
Sam [00:11:56]:
Okay.
Chris [00:11:56]:
You didn’t even you didn’t put into the government or anything. You just set a light burned it. You just get rid of it. Deleted it.
Sam [00:12:02]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:12:03]:
He would have to liquidate some of his assets to pay the billion because their their wealth is not in cash.
Sam [00:12:09]:
Okay. Okay. Yeah. It’s all paperweight or handbooks or whatever. Yeah.
Chris [00:12:12]:
So they he would have to liquidate things, which would free up more assets, which would bring their prices down.
Sam [00:12:19]:
Okay.
Chris [00:12:20]:
So apart apart from the whole thing of it’d be good for the government to get some money so we can pay the national health service and all that sort of thing because UK, it’s just even pulling that money out of that that end of the market will help everybody else. So this whole thing is tax the rich. Yeah. Now I that made a lot of sense to me, whereas, Daniel was really against us. He because he’s rich. He goes, I don’t wanna get taxed. If you tax the rich too much, they’ll all leave. And and, Gary is like, well
Sam [00:12:52]:
Who cares?
Chris [00:12:53]:
We tax them on their property. They’re not leaving with their property. Their property is here, so we tax it at source. He goes, if you were in China and you own factories and you went to go and live in America and go, I’m not paying any money to the Chinese, what would the Chinese do?
Sam [00:13:08]:
Take over the factory. They take over the factories.
Chris [00:13:10]:
So he goes, you know, it’s all very well saying people are mobile, but you can there must be a mechanism to do it. I don’t think he’s got the the plans of how to do it. He’s trying to get a move movement on what what it is. But, anyway, I thought it was really interesting. I thought it was interesting thought experiment, and I was like, yeah. I think there’s a lot of stuff in this space. And you see, Bernie and AOC have been traveling on the states, and, effectively, it’s the same message. Inequality is killing everything.
Sam [00:13:37]:
Yeah. Yeah. True. But the question is, they’re not gonna do it. The government here is the same. They’ve been told you should tax, and you’ve got rich people. You’ve got sir, Ian what’s his face? Wherever. Camera’s last name.
Sam [00:13:50]:
But he there there are rich people that are like, yes. Text us more. Like, it makes sense, and we’re okay with it because we’ve got so much money. We wanna, you know, pay us pay, you know, pay back the amount, whatever. Yeah. But I think everybody’s too scared to do it. I think our potato headed, prime minister, he’s probably too scared to do it because he’s a bit wishy washy about things.
Chris [00:14:11]:
He he’s not interested in anybody.
Speaker D [00:14:14]:
No. No. He’s he doesn’t wanna help anybody out.
Chris [00:14:17]:
But yeah. But that’s the point. That was the other point, and I I think I said that was that he said, it doesn’t matter who you vote, blue or red, whether it’s Labour or National or over there, Tory or or Labour or whatever, they’re all rich people.
Speaker D [00:14:31]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Chris [00:14:32]:
Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. They don’t think about it the same way.
Sam [00:14:34]:
I wonder if that’s happening at a smaller scale with, like, people that have got just a little bit more, if you could help with that, but then that’s not fair. I don’t know.
Chris [00:14:43]:
Yeah. Because his thing was yeah. Well, attached to the rich, but the rich is people earning over 10,000,000 a year. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So I agree. You know? And he’s actually I’m all for lowering taxes on lower income people. Yep.
Chris [00:14:57]:
But we have a progressive tax thing, whereas the more you earn, the more you pay. Mhmm. But it goes up to a point. I think it’s around, like, a million pounds. And then after that, none of
Sam [00:15:05]:
them pay anything. So so I think somebody’s just written an article yesterday or today for New Zealand sort of explaining that whole thing and how we should do it. And I’ve got a feeling where’s the place where they if you’re speeding and your speeding ticket’s relevant to how much you earn? Sweden, Finland, One of those
Chris [00:15:23]:
Oh, yeah. Greenland That sounds familiar.
Sam [00:15:24]:
Sweden. I don’t know. One of those guys. They’re the same, I think. They’re doing lots of taxes, and everyone’s happy because it help benefits everybody.
Chris [00:15:33]:
Yeah. And and the Nordic countries do do that well, I think. They all pay a lot of tax, but they they live in a place where you don’t get as much crime because everybody can afford to live.
Sam [00:15:44]:
Yes. Craziness. On the weekend, I went to balloons over Waikato. We got tickets to it because it used to be over the road at, the university for a long time. Yeah. It turned to chaos, basically, because it’s a free for all. And I think there was a lot of drunk people or drunk teenagers.
Chris [00:16:01]:
Oh, so you went to the Cleveland’s 1?
Sam [00:16:03]:
Well, that’s the only place that’s being held.
Chris [00:16:04]:
Yeah.
Speaker D [00:16:04]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Chris [00:16:05]:
So they have night glow. Yes.
Sam [00:16:06]:
The night glow. Yes. You put your name in for a ballot, and then you get some tickets. And then everybody online cries and moans a lot because they can’t make it. Blah blah blah blah blah. But, it was interesting because you you go in, you’re allowed, homemade food and no prepackaged stuff. But I was reading online today, people were still moaning, like, it’s almost a week later, And they said the light that they really need to work on their ticket entry place because it seemed to be a lot of variety in what they would do and let people in. So there was I remember on the night, there was one woman and she was screaming, no chairs.
Sam [00:16:45]:
Don’t bring chairs. No chairs allowed. And then you get in there, and, like, there’s hundreds and hundreds of people that have camp chairs. And I was like, man, that’s a good idea. And, but I don’t wanna carry one. So, you know, that’s that’s the benefit. And then, they were like, yeah. And then when we learn, they were doing bag checks.
Sam [00:17:03]:
And I sort of looked over at this rubbish bin, and it was full of bottles of Coke and Mountain Dew and all sorts. Like, the whole bin was full. And, I opened my bag, and I had a hoodie in there and then two little bottles of water, but you couldn’t see them. And she sort of looked at the bag, and then she grabbed the bag with absolute force and squished it. And, like, her hands wrapped around both sides of these water bottles, and they crinkled like and she goes, oh, you’re all good. Could have literally had anything in those bottles. But, it was alright. It was good.
Sam [00:17:36]:
I’ve never been to the night globe before, so it’s a first No.
Chris [00:17:39]:
It’s it is good. So Carl was talking about it because he he lives across
Speaker D [00:17:42]:
the road.
Sam [00:17:43]:
He literally is just there.
Chris [00:17:44]:
Lives across the road from it. And, and he was talking about the night glow, and I had to stop him and then explain to everybody from outside of Hamilton Yes.
Sam [00:17:53]:
What the night glow was.
Chris [00:17:54]:
Yeah. I mean, night glow was really good. I’m like, hang on a sec. For those of you that don’t know, the night glow is hot air balloons sitting on the ground Yeah. Where they play loud music, and they, use the flaring inside the balloons to light them up in time with the music.
Speaker D [00:18:12]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Chris [00:18:13]:
And it might sound a bit naff, but it is one of the most amazing things you’ve seen. And how many ballooned? Because it must be there’s like a dozen of them,
Sam [00:18:21]:
Yeah. Something like that.
Chris [00:18:22]:
Yeah. Yeah. I I haven’t been to it at Clordlands, obviously. I’ve been to it when I was over here. Took Carolyn one time. So yeah.
Sam [00:18:29]:
Anyway, it’s sort of I can see why, like, the families with the kids went because it’s free. Yeah. And you can take your own food if you want to. But, yeah, I’ve got no need to go for
Chris [00:18:40]:
I don’t
Sam [00:18:40]:
know. Yeah. Any any foreseeable It’s
Chris [00:18:43]:
definitely something you wanna do once, and it’s a thing that you’d take somebody who’s visiting.
Sam [00:18:48]:
Yep. That’s the one.
Chris [00:18:49]:
Much. Because, yeah, I I only went the once, and I, when Carolyn came down, we went to it.
Sam [00:18:55]:
Excellent. I’ve got some kick starter dropkicks for you.
Chris [00:18:58]:
Sweet. What do we got?
Sam [00:18:59]:
They’re just sort of interesting more than our usual complete randomness.
Chris [00:19:03]:
Okay.
Sam [00:19:04]:
Do you know I’d like, I didn’t even know what this was. The metamofractal vice. Do you know what a fractal vice is?
Chris [00:19:12]:
Fractal divine? No. Just vice. Fractal vice? Yeah. No.
Sam [00:19:17]:
So it’s a little tiny vice, a forgotten relic reimagined for the modern day, bringing an icon of engineering into the twenty first, century. It’s a little tiny vice, like a very small one that can hold whatever, but, basically, it’s got, like, movable teeth in it, so it doesn’t matter what you’ve got in it. This thing can grip it.
Chris [00:19:39]:
Yeah. I I yeah.
Sam [00:19:40]:
And I was like, oh, okay. Cool. Interesting. Twenty nine days to go as we record this.
Chris [00:19:47]:
How much per unit?
Sam [00:19:49]:
New Zealand dollars, 3 hundred and 30 6 dollars. You’re saving 10%. So it looks really good, but I it’s quite small.
Chris [00:19:58]:
And it would be for a very specific sort of thing. I think people are doing some sort of smaller models.
Sam [00:20:04]:
Smaller models or Yeah.
Chris [00:20:07]:
Oh, yeah.
Sam [00:20:07]:
Building stuff. Yeah. So, so it does actually say here there are big versions around, but what about desktop makers? Yeah. So they’ve made this little small version. It looks like it’s made out of really good material. It looks really nice. You can hold whatever you want down and work on it. And, yeah, I thought that was interesting.
Sam [00:20:29]:
So
Chris [00:20:30]:
How long to go on it?
Sam [00:20:32]:
Twenty nine days.
Chris [00:20:33]:
Okay. So that’s only new, Yeah.
Sam [00:20:35]:
Real new. 38. Right. Yeah. So they wanted about 19,000
Chris [00:20:40]:
Oh, they should get that easy.
Sam [00:20:41]:
New Zealand dollars, which is 8 and a half thousand pounds. It’s a UK based one. Okay. 19,000 New Zealand dollars. It’s only gonna be going for a couple of days. How much have they raised?
Chris [00:20:51]:
I I reckon they’d be close to that, if not, over it. I’d say 15,000. 2 point 5 million dollars. Holy crap.
Sam [00:20:59]:
People want this. Good on them. Yeah. That’s interesting. That’s a good one.
Chris [00:21:04]:
Think that would be that big a market for us. Speak actually in two days. Mind you, that doesn’t say a lot because they could have done so much pre, marketing.
Sam [00:21:13]:
Yeah. There’s a whole, you know, pre marketing. They may have a fan base already for something else. I’m not sure what. I haven’t really researched it. We’ll have the link in our show notes, though, if you wanna check it out. Now the other one, is the Doze micro geiger. Measure your daily
Chris [00:21:30]:
radiation dose. Oh.
Sam [00:21:31]:
So we’re subject to nuclear radiation at all times, but how much? Well, you can get this little thing. It’s like a little box. It looks like a a fancy m p three player maybe. And, if you wanna it starts off as a maker
Chris [00:21:45]:
Is it a like a wearable?
Sam [00:21:47]:
No. It’s like a little box. I’ll show you in a sec. But it’s sort of you can get the guts of it without a case. So it’s to make a version, a hundred and 11 New Zealand dollars. If you want the complete version, only a hundred and $30
Chris [00:21:59]:
Oh,
Sam [00:21:59]:
yeah. You get the PCB board, the tube, battery, and a plastic case. And it’s sort of is there a better photo so I could show you? Yeah. It’s like this little box with a little screen and a couple of buttons. Oh, yeah. Like, it’s very specific. It only does one job. And,
Chris [00:22:14]:
It sort of does look like one of those, wireless microphones that you get.
Sam [00:22:19]:
Yeah. Yeah. Similar to that. It can pick up, yeah, two different types of radiation. And, I mean, they’ve been around for a long time, so I assume this is accurate and works. Like, I
Chris [00:22:32]:
don’t think it’s a breakthrough thing. If you lived in Europe right now, I’d be buying one. Yeah. Maybe. You know? I where is it made?
Sam [00:22:41]:
Germany. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So good. They want
Chris [00:22:44]:
Well, you probably think it works then. It’s just that thing. It’s made in Germany. It probably works.
Sam [00:22:49]:
Probably works. They wanted to raise 9,395 New Zealand dollars. They’ve got seventeen days to go. What what’s the estimate?
Chris [00:22:58]:
They’re they’re well into it. I I would say they’re definitely up in the hundreds of thousands.
Sam [00:23:03]:
Hundred and 20 6 thousand.
Chris [00:23:04]:
Hundred and 20 6?
Sam [00:23:05]:
Not as big as this little vice thing. Yeah. But they’re up there.
Chris [00:23:09]:
Bet you you’re right. I bet you that vice thing, the guys have done multiple other things, and they’ve got a fan base. And
Sam [00:23:16]:
You’ve now got me okay. Here we go. That I’m just checking on it.
Chris [00:23:20]:
Because that’s the way to do it is if you create something good and you really deliver for your, this I
Sam [00:23:27]:
know who they are. Cool. I don’t think we’ve ever talked about it, but they made MetMo Driver the world’s most satisfying driver. It’s like a little screwdriver that folds around as a fidget toy, but is very, usable as well.
Chris [00:23:39]:
Oh, wow.
Sam [00:23:40]:
So I have seen that before. They’ve done eight other projects, a jewel threaded pen for the curious mind, some sort of gear fidget toy, and a metal cube made out of stainless steel.
Chris [00:23:53]:
Yeah. So that they’re making things to a high spec. Yep. Otherwise, they wouldn’t have people spending
Sam [00:23:59]:
No. That’s right. And if you’ve already got seven other projects, you’ve met those goals, you’ve got you’ve delivered, and people like you, you’ve probably got a strong fan base Yeah. And you’ve got a type of person. And I quite like that, the items that they have made are all in the same realm. They haven’t gone, oh, here’s this book. Yeah.
Chris [00:24:18]:
The the for one of a better word, they’re for engineering nerds.
Sam [00:24:22]:
Exactly.
Chris [00:24:23]:
You know?
Sam [00:24:23]:
I wasn’t gonna say it because I didn’t wanna upset all the engineering nerds that listen to our podcast, but here we are.
Chris [00:24:29]:
Yeah. Well, I’ll I’ll I’ll I’ll I’ll I’ll shout it out. Hey. So speaking of engineering nerds
Speaker A [00:24:35]:
Oh.
Chris [00:24:35]:
Have you heard about BYD’s latest breakthrough?
Sam [00:24:37]:
No. As on the car the car manufacturer?
Chris [00:24:39]:
Yeah. The the oh, I are you sure you hadn’t heard about this? This is huge news.
Sam [00:24:43]:
And so
Chris [00:24:44]:
They I know. They’ve, launched a fast charger. Not just a prototype. This is going into production. It can fully charge car batteries in five minutes.
Sam [00:24:55]:
How have they got over the barrier of thermal loading?
Chris [00:25:00]:
I don’t know, but they have. So that is one question that people have is, does it negatively impact batteries? They don’t know how negatively it will impact the life of a battery life cycle of a battery.
Sam [00:25:15]:
Yeah. Yeah. But that’s mental.
Chris [00:25:17]:
What I didn’t know re reading a little in this a bit, I didn’t realize BYD started as a battery company. Oh, okay. A battery company before it was a company. So they were, like, making all these batteries, and all the batteries they were making were going into cars. And they went, wonder if we can make the cars as well. So which is a different way to do it. But this is this is the thing that got me was this, stat. Right? Mhmm.
Chris [00:25:42]:
The Tesla price to earnings ratio, p p
Sam [00:25:45]:
e Okay.
Chris [00:25:46]:
Is something like a 60. So this is how many, so they earn this much over the year. We’ll value the company at this many times that amount they earn over the year. Right? Now I think Toyota is pay something like 18.
Sam [00:26:06]:
Okay.
Chris [00:26:07]:
Right? Shit. Yep. And so Tesla is ridiculously overpriced, and that’s, this was probably before it had the it’s probably a lot lower now. It’s probably around a hundred 20, but it’s still way overpriced. Right? But somebody put it in this way, which I thought was really cool. To put it another way, based on the price of the stock against the number of cars sold in a year, BYD is priced at something like 39,000 per car they sell.
Sam [00:26:37]:
Okay.
Chris [00:26:38]:
And Tesla is priced at something like 485,000 per car they sell.
Sam [00:26:43]:
Woah. Currently.
Chris [00:26:44]:
Which is ridiculous. Oh, well, that was a couple of week oh, Yeah. Yeah. A week ago, it’s probably it’s it’s it’s in a bit of a nosedive, the old, Tesla stock.
Sam [00:26:54]:
So they’re gonna put 4,000 of these fast charges in China, and it’s double the fastest charger Tesla wants to roll out later this year. Tesla’s at 500 kilowatts. This is doing a thousand kilowatts. Yeah. So but the the the question is what’s it gonna be for battery health and stuff? But they wanna fix this, battery anxiety.
Chris [00:27:17]:
Well, you talked about it when you talked about going to Wellington. Yeah. I I don’t think we did it on the podcast. We talked about it afterwards, I think, where you had to charge up the battery to to, you know, to hand the rental car in. It had to
Speaker D [00:27:30]:
be at 80% or whatever,
Chris [00:27:32]:
and you gotta sit there for thirty minutes or Yeah.
Sam [00:27:35]:
Yeah. And I had to and I found a charger that was, the the more powerful one. Yeah. Because otherwise, it would have been an hour or something. I don’t know.
Chris [00:27:43]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So if you can make it five minutes, that’s the holy grail for these
Sam [00:27:48]:
guys. And it yeah. You
Chris [00:27:50]:
know? So Tesla, got a big bump in earnings or or stock valuation three months ago. I wanna say three months ago when they did that looked told, you know, told everyone about the fast charger.
Speaker D [00:28:02]:
Oh, yeah.
Chris [00:28:03]:
And then BYD’s put them this last week Yeah. With this, you know, hey. Else is better than theirs. And so yeah.
Sam [00:28:10]:
I actually drove a BYD again today for work. Yeah. And I couldn’t figure out why it was beeping the whole time in the car park because I’m driving out of this underground car park. And it’s the stupid, E Road thing, which
Chris [00:28:23]:
Oh, yeah.
Sam [00:28:23]:
For fleet vehicles have. And it’s this little tiny screen, and you log into it.
Speaker D [00:28:27]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:28:28]:
So it knows Used to have
Chris [00:28:29]:
them at Gilmour’s in the trucks.
Sam [00:28:30]:
Yeah. Yeah. That’s it. That’s it. But these new cars, the the BYDs, have a really long sloping windscreen and this really deep dashboard, and they mount this thing at the very end of the dashboard right at the bottom of the windscreen, and it’s miles away. And this car, I can only see half of it. So but and I forgot. I was just like, what is that beeping? I had someone in the car with me, and I I was like, I’ll just keep driving, as you do.
Sam [00:28:57]:
And I was like, I don’t because I just assumed it was warning me about something because they beep all the time. And I was like, and then I was like, oh, it’s the bloody thing, and you have to physically stop, turn the car off and back on. And I can’t reach from sitting, I can’t reach the thing.
Chris [00:29:13]:
Now for those of you listening, Sam is not a small guy. He can he’s got wingspan.
Sam [00:29:18]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:29:19]:
So if you can’t reach it, there’s gotta be people that are trying to crawl onto that freaking
Sam [00:29:23]:
So I’ve gotta, like, stop and, like, get out of my seat and sort of launch forward and tap in my PIN code. And then I was all good. I was like, oh, sweet.
Chris [00:29:32]:
Yeah. No. Yeah. So I I took the Mevo up to, Auckland yesterday for this filming. I I rented Mevo, and
Sam [00:29:40]:
you You don’t have to fill it up, mate?
Chris [00:29:41]:
I did, actually.
Sam [00:29:42]:
Oh, you do you do have to? Yep. Okay. I wasn’t sure.
Chris [00:29:44]:
But you just drive into the the pump that they, you set hit the fill up that tells you where petrol station that, works with them is.
Sam [00:29:53]:
Cool.
Chris [00:29:53]:
You you pull it. Yeah. You turn it off. You go, I’m at the pump. It it looks on the map and says, oh, yeah. You are. Which pump are you at? Pump one. It goes start
Sam [00:30:03]:
you following up at zed?
Chris [00:30:04]:
No. BP.
Sam [00:30:05]:
Okay. No. That’s right.
Chris [00:30:06]:
Yeah. No. So, yeah. And so you do it all with your phone, which is pretty cool. But what I was gonna say is I I got to Sky City, and I Yeah. I got supposedly the early bird, but somehow I didn’t manage to validate it. Yes. So the $16.50 was $48 for the day.
Sam [00:30:23]:
Yeah. They’ll do that.
Chris [00:30:24]:
Goddamn. And then guy did the same, and he goes, but I did validate it, and it still came up $48. So, you know
Sam [00:30:30]:
Who knows?
Chris [00:30:31]:
This is how Sky City rips you off. But, anyway, it’s, if you want the early bird, you’re in level six, which is the lowest level. Yeah. So I’m in there. I get out of the car. I go to lock the car. It’s like, no signal. You can’t can’t lock the car if you don’t have the phone.
Chris [00:30:46]:
And as I’m walking back, I must have got just the the right bit of, signal bound somewhere in it. Oh, oh, I locked the car. Cool. And then I come back. It took me, like, two minutes of walking around the car park, pressing this button, trying to
Sam [00:30:59]:
Oh my god. Yeah. Yeah. When you talked about using the Mevo last time and you run out of data, I think it was, on your phone ran
Chris [00:31:08]:
out of data.
Sam [00:31:09]:
I brought that up in a meeting at work where there was a different team talking about using those cars, and I said, something you need to know, if if you run out of data or you don’t have anything, you can’t, like, sort it out. And they’re like, oh, never thought of that.
Chris [00:31:22]:
Yeah. I was
Sam [00:31:22]:
like, okay.
Chris [00:31:22]:
Yeah. No. That’s, yeah. Because I I was checking my data right now. I’ve got plenty of data this time, mate. Yeah. So yeah. No.
Chris [00:31:30]:
It was good. And the Meebo, I’m still still bullish on the Meebo that
Sam [00:31:34]:
it works
Chris [00:31:34]:
well. It was pretty good. So it
Sam [00:31:35]:
brings us to the end of the podcast. Trying to think what I’ve got coming up in the next week. I don’t know.
Chris [00:31:42]:
I don’t know. I would shout out to to Guy Pickton that I worked with. He’s such a pro with the camera. We did some great, great stuff. The clients were all real wrapped with him. And if you haven’t listened to his podcast, the Guy and Harley podcast, we’ve talked about them in the past.
Sam [00:32:00]:
Go check it out.
Chris [00:32:01]:
They’ve been going as long as us, although he did say, we haven’t done as many, episodes as you.
Sam [00:32:08]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That’s right. They’ve got lives and, are super busy with things. We’re here, tuning out Well context.
Chris [00:32:16]:
About hourly. They might their hours might be.
Sam [00:32:19]:
Oh, it could be. Could
Chris [00:32:21]:
be. Because they they their podcast is sort of I
Sam [00:32:23]:
mean, they’ve got one episode where it’s about six hours of them arguing, I think. So that’s we haven’t reached that level. I don’t know how that I’d just walk up.
Chris [00:32:31]:
We we just get, off the mic, and then we argue for for six
Sam [00:32:36]:
hours. So okay. Until next time. I’m Sam. I’m Chris. See you. Bye.
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