Summary
Chris has a hard time back at Karate and is getting his bike fixed this week. Sam was moving pumpkins, bumping into someone that knew him and experienced a weird thing with some lost keys.
We talk a bit about the SignalGate thing in the US and the Tarrifs
We also talk about the Mean Pies app for all the pie lovers in NZ.
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Sam [00:00:21]:
T five of the Chris and Sam podcast. I’m Chris. And I’m Sam. Welcome along to your weekly fix of randomness technology in life. We’re all about that. Your weekly fix every week. We are here.
Chris [00:00:35]:
That that ran out of steam quick.
Sam [00:00:36]:
I I was trying to think of something to say, and at the same time, this told me there was a write error. And this is on the other SD card. So I’m getting rather annoyed with that, but I am sure this is fine. We will have audio for you. Anyway, apart from that, how’s your week been going?
Chris [00:00:54]:
Busy, busy, busy. It’s been pretty good. I I I had a major freaking karate session on Wednesday because I hadn’t been for almost two weeks. I I didn’t go last week because I I was in Auckland for one day, and then I actually worked through, and I was like, oh my god. It’s too late now.
Sam [00:01:10]:
Okay.
Chris [00:01:10]:
And then the week before, I’d been off sick.
Sam [00:01:12]:
So you turn up, and they beat the crap out
Chris [00:01:14]:
of you. So the the warm up
Sam [00:01:16]:
Oh, no. Was Okay.
Chris [00:01:17]:
Two laps running around the the field outside or car park outside sort of thing. Okay. Hundred punches against the bag, hundred kicks against the bag, 50 press ups, 50 sit ups, 50 squats, and two more laps. And that was before we started.
Sam [00:01:36]:
No. I’m really tired. I I’d be like, thanks, guys. See you next week,
Chris [00:01:42]:
And go, like And then yeah. So I came I I walked home, actually, because my bike’s in the shop. So my bike’s at ProudLocks. I’m getting What do you High speed gear changes.
Sam [00:01:55]:
Instead of what? Low speed gear changes? What’s the difference?
Chris [00:01:58]:
Those little twisty ones.
Sam [00:02:00]:
Oh, okay. You’ve got the grip the weird grip twist things. Yeah. And you’re like, I’m old. I don’t know
Chris [00:02:06]:
if this said that. You don’t have the strength. A hundred and three. Yeah. He he’s
Sam [00:02:11]:
like, you don’t have the strength.
Chris [00:02:13]:
No. He goes, oh, it’s it I said, I I think the the the wires need changing or whatever it is to because I can’t change gear. And he goes
Sam [00:02:21]:
That’s right.
Chris [00:02:21]:
He goes, no. It’s the twisty things. He says, these things are crap. And he goes, I can’t try change them at all. I need to get my offsider to come in and turn the gear to change it. These things are crap.
Sam [00:02:32]:
Okay. Now now just to
Chris [00:02:33]:
And I said, oh, well, what do you use? And he and he shows me another bike sitting there, and he goes this sort of thing, and it click click click click. Yeah. Works really easy. And I’m like, can I have them? He goes, sure. Okay. So, he said, I can get that, that one on you for you tomorrow sort of the thing. And I’m like because it was Saturday last weekend.
Sam [00:02:50]:
Oh, yeah.
Chris [00:02:50]:
I I dropped it off. Yeah. And I said, oh, I’ll do them both. And he goes, oh, I haven’t got a three speed because you got three speed and a seven, like, the for the Yep. Duran. And I said, well, he goes, I’ll order it. Does it do you mind if it takes a few days? I’m like, no problem. I haven’t heard from him yet, and it’s been almost all
Sam [00:03:06]:
He could have died. But, you know what?
Chris [00:03:08]:
That has crossed my mind. The the store’s been there for ninety one years or ninety two years, and he’s been working the whole time.
Sam [00:03:19]:
Yeah. Yeah. So now your bike’s a cheap bike, and you’re getting some more gear put onto it. So you’re increasing the value of this bike.
Chris [00:03:28]:
Yeah. Yeah. I said, oh, it is a cheap bike. He goes, I know it’s a cheap bike. Yeah. You don’t tell somebody
Sam [00:03:33]:
with to tell the hundred year old man about a cheap bike. He knows.
Chris [00:03:39]:
Yeah. So, yeah, hopefully, it won’t be too much. I’m I’m imagining it’s gonna cost me the same as what I paid for the bike again.
Sam [00:03:48]:
Probably. Yeah. But then this was the guy what did he fix one time for you? Was it the wheel or something?
Chris [00:03:53]:
He did a I had a flat, and he went in, put a new, inner tube. I think he put a new inner tube, or he or he patched the one and put it back in there. We’re inflated and put it all back together and gave it me for $5.
Sam [00:04:05]:
Yeah. Yeah. So maybe you’re probably paying mainly for the part.
Chris [00:04:09]:
Oh, a %. Yeah. I think I think so. Well, I don’t know what it’s gonna cost yet, so we’ll work that out. Hopefully, I’ll I’ll know soon. So, do wanna get to karate tonight. Didn’t do my workouts last couple of mornings. So yesterday morning after after karate, I was Shocking.
Chris [00:04:25]:
After that big karate session, I was like, no. I did my little mobility. And then this morning, it was pissing down outside, so I just did my mobility exercise. Anyway, that’s really boring. You asked what I was up to, though. That’s what I’ve been up to. How about you?
Sam [00:04:38]:
Last night, I was moving pumpkins, so that was fun. There was big? A hundred and eighty eight kilos. So, I had to go
Chris [00:04:46]:
Who who’s
Sam [00:04:47]:
A guy named Dale. They’re taking it to the school competition today.
Chris [00:04:53]:
Oh, okay.
Sam [00:04:53]:
So last night, they contacted me last week, and they were asking me how to lift them and move them. And I said, oh, I can do that. So he actually has access to a higher truck and stuff, so took a lifting ring and helped them out with that. It was pretty good. And then moved to probably another five forty, 50 kilo pumpkins as well. So that’s pretty cool.
Chris [00:05:13]:
Alright. So you at the show?
Sam [00:05:16]:
Today, I went to the school to judge the pumpkin event.
Chris [00:05:19]:
Oh, nice.
Sam [00:05:19]:
So the funny thing was, he goes, oh, Chris Chris will be here soon, this guy Chris. And I think his son it must have been his son, Joel. And they were like they turned up this guy, and he goes, oh, yeah. We we we’ve been to that competition, like, eighteen years ago or something. He won it. I was like, oh, sweet. And he was really good. And he does I don’t know who he works for, so I can’t shout them out, but he works for a crowd that does, certification and testing of high ab trucks.
Sam [00:05:45]:
Now I don’t know if it’s everything, but definitely the high ab. And he was like, oh, we we’re done work on this. And he had this real nifty, wireless hanging scale thing. Came in he brought he walked in with a briefcase and opened it up, and it was just a rectangle block of aluminum with a digital display and a couple of buttons. And he just looped it on and hung it, and then he pulled out this other box, which is like a remote control from it, so he could zero it. So he zeroed it, and we hung it, and we got $1.88, which was cool. Now a cut pumpkin loses a little bit of weight from evaporation, I guess, basically. And, when they went to the competition today, when I turned up, the school had canceled their event for tonight.
Sam [00:06:29]:
The harvest festival is not on tonight because of the rain. But they’ve got all the pumpkins there, and it was super quiet because no one was doing anything. It was just it was really weird. Normally, there’s people bustling around all the time.
Chris [00:06:39]:
Yeah. Yeah.
Sam [00:06:40]:
Yeah. Because it’s, like, the fourth or fifth time I’ve judged this thing. But they were like, oh, oh, here’s the big pumpkin, because they were getting apparently real iffy about them weighing it at home. They were like, one of the PTA has to be at your house. And they were like, no. Because they were talking to me, and I said, just tell her mom I’m going there. And they’re like, yep. So they did that, and they’re like, so apparently, when they turned up at school this morning, they’re like, no.
Sam [00:07:04]:
To make it fair, you have to weigh it on our scales because we’ve weighed everything else, which I do get to a certain point.
Chris [00:07:11]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Sam [00:07:12]:
If there’s a pumpkin that’s similar in size is what I’ll say. Yeah. Yeah. But if it’s not, who cares?
Chris [00:07:18]:
If the nearest one’s a hundred k g and this is a 80 yeah. No.
Sam [00:07:24]:
Anyway, I think it looks like yeah. Okay. So second place was fifty three point six kilos. Right.
Chris [00:07:32]:
So a third is a size.
Sam [00:07:34]:
But somebody they said you have to weigh it. So I guess they manhandled it off the trailer this morning. I’m not sure what they did. But, anyway, they got it onto their little scales, and they said it was a hundred and seventy nine point six kilos. That’s a bit of a difference.
Chris [00:07:50]:
Yeah. It is. But
Sam [00:07:52]:
Whatevs.
Chris [00:07:53]:
Yeah. I mean, I still have seen the official things
Sam [00:07:56]:
with your way. Well, it’s funny because I thought they had, like, a fertilizer bag. That’s what it was sitting in, so I assume that’s how they’ve weighed it. I guess they pulled it away, but still, yeah, I I I trust the guy that does it for a job that has a special, hanging scale thing.
Chris [00:08:14]:
Yeah. Yeah.
Sam [00:08:14]:
So I did that, judged that, was pretty good. Then I had a quick meeting with Paige and Tracy for Misty Flix. That’s about to kick off.
Chris [00:08:23]:
Because we’ve got to have that meeting with Paige at some point, but or maybe you don’t need me now.
Sam [00:08:29]:
We always need you. Your name came up. Don’t worry. Don’t worry. So no. That’s happening real soon. The the opening of submissions will be happening pretty quickly.
Chris [00:08:40]:
Yeah. The Misty Flix competition.
Sam [00:08:43]:
So it sounds like, there’s a lot more organization happening. We’ll see how it all goes. It’s pretty cool. And, that has been, I think, my week so far. Obviously, just work. I had the day off, which is great. It’s a little treat, isn’t it, really? Did I tell you that they I bumped into a guy at work the other day?
Chris [00:09:03]:
A guy?
Sam [00:09:04]:
Oh, no. I don’t think I told you the story. No. When the guy randomly was talking to me in a shop? No. Oh, so I’m doing my job. I’m at a random store that sells food, and I’ve got my new worker with me, and I’m showing her what we do. And I’m talking to the owner of the shop, and I’m about to go out the back to look at their kitchen. And there’s three people sitting at the front eating some food, and this guy yells out, hey, Sam.
Sam [00:09:30]:
Do you still grow giant pumpkins? And I look at this guy, and I’m really good at remembering faces and names and stuff. And I have no idea who this person is. And I was like, yeah. I do. I’ve just gotta go do this, and I’ll come say hi. Okay. So that was all good. So I went out the back, came back out, and and I just said straight up to this guy, said, I’m so sorry.
Sam [00:09:49]:
I can’t remember what your name is. He goes, oh, it’s me, Perry. I was like, oh, okay. How’s it going, Perry? So Perry used to work with ED, for about six months. He has six month contract with the police, operates speed cameras.
Chris [00:10:02]:
Oh, right. Right.
Sam [00:10:03]:
Right. He goes out. He was going out with my coworker’s daughter. He’s now married to her.
Chris [00:10:10]:
Oh, okay.
Sam [00:10:11]:
So his father-in-law is the guy. And I said, how’s it all going? Good. Good. Good. And I’m still trying to get
Chris [00:10:17]:
So is he still with the No.
Sam [00:10:19]:
No. No. No. Six month contract.
Chris [00:10:20]:
Oh, yeah.
Sam [00:10:21]:
Yeah. And then he went and actually got a proper job. Working for IRD for many years. Now he works for an IT crowd that sounds pretty cool, and he’s just about to he was applying for a new job, and I think he was applying for the people that he was with, and they were having a celebratory dessert. And I said, how’s it going? He goes, oh, yeah. Everything’s good. And he goes, oh, did you hear about the crazy new hours they’re doing for the speed camera thing? And I was like, oh, I heard something. I heard they’re doing four days on, four days off when they move contract.
Sam [00:10:56]:
And he goes, yeah. But did you hear when they have to start working some days? I was like, no. And I’m trying to get this confirmed. I’m trying to hear from one of the actual people that still do this job. He said this guy, oh, they’re gonna start 11:00 at night.
Chris [00:11:10]:
For what shit? What shift is that? Oh, twelve hours. Twelve hours. Eleven to eleven. It’s a weird time.
Sam [00:11:17]:
It’s stupid. I don’t think that’s right. I think it’s 11AM to 11PM, if anything.
Chris [00:11:23]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:11:23]:
I think he’s I I that’s why I said I don’t know. It sounds a bit weird. And I’ve heard from him and one of the other guys that told me about the four on four off, they’re gonna have, like, a CCTV camera in the van, but that’s watching them. So somewhere
Chris [00:11:39]:
Safety thing.
Sam [00:11:40]:
Yeah. So weird. I’m so glad I’m out of that.
Chris [00:11:42]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. That’s Anyway, that was my week. Cool. Well, we we
Sam [00:11:48]:
No. I do have a story. I’m sorry.
Chris [00:11:50]:
Okay. Go. Go. Go.
Sam [00:11:51]:
The lost key story because, honestly, this has broken our brains at home. So,
Chris [00:11:59]:
Sorry. I’m laughing already.
Sam [00:12:00]:
Yeah. I know. No. I know.
Chris [00:12:02]:
I’m just imagining you and Sarah, like, just going nuts. I can just No.
Sam [00:12:06]:
This is it. So so Sarah texted me, Wednesday morning, I think it is, and she says, I don’t know where my car keys are. Have you seen them? And I said, no. I have no idea. And she goes, I can’t find them. Now she never loses anything, and she knows where she puts stuff. So I’m like, okay. This is a bit weird.
Sam [00:12:24]:
Whatever. And she goes, where’s the spare key? So I told her that. She goes, okay. Off she goes to work. I come home. She comes home. She goes, look. I’ve looked for these keys for thirty minutes yesterday.
Sam [00:12:34]:
I don’t know where they are. It’s driving me absolutely mental because I do not lose my keys. I put them in the bowl here or they’re on the table. And I said, okay. When we got home yesterday, you came home first. She goes, no. The last time I had my car keys was later that night because I’d been to my TED ao course at the Wairanga, and I was like, oh, that’s right. I was in the kitchen.
Sam [00:12:54]:
You walked in. And she goes, yeah. And then I sat down at the table, and I did my work. I said, okay. Sweet. That makes sense. So we check the bag that she had with her, which is just this random bag that’s just standing upright. Not in there.
Sam [00:13:07]:
We check everything else. We pull out all the chairs around the dining room table because I in my brain, I’m like, they’ve fallen down onto the chair. No. So I’m like, okay. We go to the chairs in the lounge. They’re not there. I’ve I literally pull everything out. I pulled the giant couch out.
Sam [00:13:23]:
Not there. We then move to, like, random drawers, the fridge, the pantry. Oh, the bedroom, for some reason, I don’t know why they’d be down there, but, no, it can’t find can’t find them. This is, like, thirty five minutes of searching. Oh, and also Sarah also goes around and checks these chairs independently of me. Right? And then we’re like, listen. I’m just like, this is mental. I’m like and the keys there’s two keys, a square metal Harry Potter key ring, and then there’s blue fidget blue and bright pink fidget toy.
Sam [00:13:56]:
Very easy to spot. Yeah. Like, if you all you normally see is this fidget thing
Chris [00:14:01]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Sam [00:14:01]:
Before the keys. Not a problem. I walk from the lounge to the kitchen, turn my head to the left, and they’re right in the middle of the table just sitting there. And I was like, the keys are on the table. And she’s like, what? Like, her brain breaks, basically. She’s, what do you mean it’s on the table? She goes, %. Are are you shitting me? Did you just put them there? I said, I don’t put them there. It’s freaking me out.
Sam [00:14:23]:
Because we just literally looked at everything. Like, we looked at the table twice, Stefan, and they’re just there. There’s nothing covering him. There’s almost nothing next to him. They’re just there. And, yeah, that we’re we’re not allowed to talk about the key thing anymore because she doesn’t wanna think about it.
Chris [00:14:40]:
Pick something up and they were underneath it and nobody noticed. Pick something up, walked off, and then turn around. Oh.
Sam [00:14:46]:
The only thing next to it is a single sheet of printed paper. And the bag that was on the end of the table that we went through has no external pockets. No nothing. It’s just literally an opening. It’s like a handbag, but with an opening. Yeah. There’s nothing in that, and that got moved completely out of the way. So when we saw the keys, it’s just the keys on the table.
Chris [00:15:06]:
That’s weird.
Sam [00:15:07]:
It’s very it’s weird to experience and go through because it breaks your brain. Anyway,
Chris [00:15:13]:
yeah. Thank you, Dobby. Well, yeah. I don’t know. Anyway So what we missed last week, and I have to mention it because it’s just so stupid. Briefly. Briefly. It’s that whole signal gate thing.
Chris [00:15:27]:
It is the most mental thing.
Sam [00:15:29]:
But there was, yeah, it’s so fill us in real briefly of what happened.
Chris [00:15:34]:
Real briefly. So, some Atlantic, reporter sorry. He’s a reporter from the Atlantic gets us some Invite. Request, invite for signal, which is a thing like we use Telegram, It’s like that sort of thing.
Sam [00:15:47]:
It’s a messaging app that anybody can download, and it’s quite secure.
Chris [00:15:51]:
Yeah. Reasonably secure. Like, others are reasonably secure. Yeah.
Sam [00:15:55]:
Yeah. Whatever.
Chris [00:15:56]:
So, anyway, he gets this invite from, the defense secretary, a secretary of defense, something like that. Not a secretary of defense. Sorry. Intelligence. Defense intelligence
Sam [00:16:07]:
guy. Does he think that’s weird, or does he just go
Chris [00:16:10]:
because he does that beat. Okay. Okay. Yeah. On their thing.
Sam [00:16:13]:
That’s what I wasn’t sure about.
Chris [00:16:14]:
Yeah. So it’s his beat. So he he does think it’s weird because the Trump administration doesn’t like him because he wrote a couple of stories against Trump.
Sam [00:16:22]:
Oh, okay.
Chris [00:16:23]:
He he he was the one that told them about the suckers and losers, calling people that died and and wore suckers and losers. So they all hate him for that. Yeah. Okay. So he thought, oh, that’s a bit odd, but maybe he’s got something to tell me about the Ukraine war Yeah. Because that was top of mind. Right?
Sam [00:16:37]:
Yeah. Okay.
Chris [00:16:37]:
So he accepts the, invite or whatever it was, And then a a few days later, nothing comes of it. Few days later, his, because he’s been invited to the same, he’s he’s pulled into this group or invited to this group. Yeah. PC, Houthi small group or something it’s called. And he goes, oh, yeah. And then he starts watching, and he’s looking at the names that are are jumped in here, and there’s the vice president, the the head of the CIA, the, the Defense secretary?
Sam [00:17:10]:
No. What’s the name? Secretary.
Chris [00:17:11]:
Yep. Yep. Secretary of defense. DNI, the, the other one, because there’s so many of these defense people with a Tulsi Gabbard, whatever she is. Yep. And and Mike Hawes was the one that invited them. There’s 20 of them all up, like, including the vice president again. Like, what the hell? And so he goes, this what am I doing here? This can’t be right.
Chris [00:17:34]:
So he goes, oh, they’ve just got some AI bot. Somebody’s either having fun with me or it’s like some Russians trying to, you know, screw with my head. You know? Like, some some Yeah.
Sam [00:17:44]:
And and I assume he is a bit skeptical about things because, you know
Chris [00:17:49]:
He’s a reporter. Yeah.
Sam [00:17:50]:
And he doesn’t know what’s gonna happen.
Chris [00:17:52]:
Yeah. So they start talking about Houthis and bombing the Houthis and stuff like that. And he’s like, yeah. Now this is this is wrong. And he shows some of the people he works with who knows more about the security industry as well.
Sam [00:18:03]:
Oh, okay.
Chris [00:18:04]:
He says, does this look right to you? And they go, there’s, like, almost 0% chance that this is real. Yeah.
Sam [00:18:11]:
Because it’s so because it’s so batshit.
Chris [00:18:13]:
So so crazy. And then, the secretary of defense, Pete Hegseth, who have we’ve mentioned him before, but he was the weekend anchor. Not even good enough to become a weekday anchor. Weekend anchor at Fox News. Yeah. That’s his qualification.
Sam [00:18:30]:
Yeah. He’s earlier.
Chris [00:18:31]:
He was, in the army once, but, or in the services once. So, anyway, he is now the secretary of defense, and he puts in this thing and it’s he says, the time now is eleven, forty four eastern AM. This is what’s happening in thirty one minutes at whatever time it was. The f eighteens are taking off. They’re gonna be loaded with this, this, and this. It’ll take them this long to get to this place. They’ll drop the this is when the bombs will start dropping. We’ve had, eyes on target, and they had, confirmed that the target is in the building.
Chris [00:19:06]:
And, you know, this is happening. This is happening. This is when the second straight leaves. This is when the the second packages lands. And he’s looking there going, this can’t be real, but I’ve got a timeline. Yeah. If bombs start falling in I think it was two hours or half an hour or two hours, I think, because takeoff was in half an hour and then an hour to get there or whatever. So he actually stops at a car park.
Chris [00:19:26]:
He’s going to the supermarket, stops in the car park and starts looking on Twitter. He goes, bombs start falling. I’ll I’ll see you on Twitter. It’ll be on Twitter. And I know this is real, but it’s not gonna happen because it’s not real because this is dumb.
Sam [00:19:39]:
Yeah. It’s so dumb.
Chris [00:19:40]:
And then it’s real. And so then he he he post the story, like, the next day. So the next day, he ring he he immediately goes, oh my god. This is real. I know all this top secret information I should not know Yeah. Which I didn’t want to know. I didn’t ask to be here. You guys just told me all this stuff.
Chris [00:20:01]:
Yeah. So he immediately leaves the group chat, and you can imagine because that’ll say, JG has left the chat. And it’s like, who was that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They they don’t care. They’re all the top security people in the administration. They don’t even notice.
Chris [00:20:17]:
It’s just so dumb. Anyway, so he he publishes he he he reaches out to 10 of them and says, I was in that check. Can you confirm it’s real? You know, which is what the reporters do. And one of the agencies come back and says, yes. Like, instead of the person, the agency he works for, he must have handed it off to somebody else.
Sam [00:20:38]:
Yeah. They came back, and
Chris [00:20:40]:
they said, yes. We can confirm that as as totally real. And so he go because his subsequent interviews are going, I can’t believe they even admitted it. Like, even, like, the same day, they go, oh, yeah. No. That’s real. And so he publishes the story because it’s real. Yeah.
Chris [00:20:56]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:20:56]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:20:56]:
So he publishes the story without telling any of the detail. He just says war plans were, discussed. They talked about, the weapons used, the timing of the attack, all that sort of thing. This is dumb, and, you know, this is dumb. So it’s a big thing. The next day or the day that the day that that came out, I think, actually, there was a scheduled hearing in the defense. It’s something they do every month.
Sam [00:21:21]:
Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah.
Chris [00:21:23]:
And two of these people that were on their chat were facing congress. Yeah. So guess what they’re gonna be talking about? They were gonna be talking about Ukraine, but, no, we’re gonna talk about this signal thing. And, it was Tulsi Gabbard, who’s the, intelligence director, and, Mike Walz, the dick that, I know Ratcliffe, sorry, the CIA director with two two people. And so they go the CIA director says, yes. I can confirm I was on that chat. So that’s the first confirmation from one of them that, oh, you know, this is all real.
Sam [00:21:56]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:21:56]:
Because the others going, no. Never happened. No. It never happened. And, the, secretary of defense, Pete Pete Hegse, is like, oh, no. There were nothing nothing, classified was discussed at all. It’s not war plans. This this is a failed, Atlantic post story, and it’s a fail you know, all the all the Trumpism stuff.
Chris [00:22:19]:
It was just crazy. And, in the but in this, hearing, Ratcliffe goes, I didn’t say anything that was, bad. I didn’t give any see I didn’t give any classified information. He saw other people give the classified information. He should have said something Yeah. You know, on an unsecured line. But yeah. And Tulsa Tulsi Gabbard said, no.
Chris [00:22:41]:
No. Not to my recollection. None of that was classified. None of this. And so the the report is going and they they’re all calling him a liar. The report is going, well, okay. You’ve all said it’s not classified, so you have no problem if I publish it all now. Yeah.
Chris [00:22:56]:
And they’re like, no. And they called his bluff. He did run it past, some things, and the CIA did ask him to redact one thing. So he he published everything except the name of some individual, and which is actually really bad because they’ve screwed one of the on the ground informants that Mossad had Alright. In Yemen Yeah. That, yeah, he’s burned. And so the the the Israelis are really pissed off about this. Yeah.
Chris [00:23:30]:
They burned one of his best ass assets because these guys are stupid. So, anyway, that’s all happened. They’re still denying it. Nothing oh, they opened a investigation. Nothing’s happening. And the next day, they go, we’ve closed the investigation. It’s all good. Like and then today I don’t know.
Chris [00:23:48]:
Today, in the last twelve hours or something, they’ve, reported that somebody somebody’s leaked, obviously. There’s at least 20 of these signal groups.
Sam [00:23:57]:
Oh, in total? Okay.
Chris [00:23:58]:
In total. And this guy, Walls, who’s the something defense Whatever. Intelligence dude, has, been using Gmail
Sam [00:24:08]:
Of course he did.
Chris [00:24:09]:
For his Yeah. Which is not secure at all. He hasn’t been doing necessarily top secret stuff, but it’s stuff that is sensitive. So the whole thing is just absolutely
Sam [00:24:22]:
It’s crazy. So I saw this thing, and the guy was like, remember that time they were going on about Hillary Clinton and her emails? And they had, like, three hearings and all this stuff, and And it went on and on and on and on, and then nothing happened because who cares? It was just email. Wow. This happened, and don’t worry about it.
Chris [00:24:37]:
I because if if I was one of those politicians with them, I’d be like, so you’re saying that there’s nothing wrong with this and and because that’s what they’re going. Oh, there’s nothing. There was nothing. It was a little sensitive maybe, but there’s nothing top secret. And then I I would be going, ah, so on the record I I agree. I agree. You sound great. On the record then, would you like to give your apology to Hillary Clinton now? Because, like
Sam [00:25:00]:
I don’t know.
Chris [00:25:01]:
It’s I’d watch him choke on that stuff.
Sam [00:25:04]:
It’s all crazy. Makes no sense. If he got the invite, was that just a wrong number, or is it some weird setup? Or
Chris [00:25:11]:
guy, Mike Walks, was on the, interviewed on Fox News, and he made the most stupid thing. He he’s obviously not very bright. He goes, oh, look. I don’t know how he got on there. We’re gonna have an investigation to figure out how he got into the group. But you know how it is when phones you have phones and the names don’t match the the phone numbers and stuff and, like, everybody’s like, no.
Sam [00:25:35]:
Don’t know that.
Chris [00:25:36]:
And then he goes and sometimes your phone the phone number just gets sucked into your phone. What does that mean? Oh. Literally what he said. Like, this guy should be working at McDonald’s, not a freaking
Sam [00:25:48]:
He must I’ll tell you what he’s I he what he’s probably talking about is when you have a new iPhone, like, if you had an iPhone and I went like that. Yeah. Yeah. It’ll go beep, and I’d just get your contacts straight away.
Chris [00:25:57]:
Yeah. I’d
Sam [00:25:58]:
yeah. It’s pretty cool. Yeah. I did at work once and blew my coworker’s mind.
Chris [00:26:02]:
I did wanna talk about really briefly, because I didn’t really wanna talk about all of that. I wanna talk really briefly about the tariffs thing. Have you seen this?
Sam [00:26:09]:
You’ve got, like, literally two minutes.
Chris [00:26:11]:
Okay. So Trump’s Liberation Day tariffs came yesterday.
Sam [00:26:15]:
Yeah. Yeah. Whatever. Sounds like it’s bad for The US.
Chris [00:26:17]:
Yeah. It’s bad for everybody. But they people were looking at it when they did that because we got tariffs put on us,
Sam [00:26:24]:
I think. Yeah. Yeah. That’s right. That’s right. Because And
Chris [00:26:26]:
we don’t have any tariffs on anything.
Sam [00:26:27]:
No. That’s right.
Chris [00:26:28]:
Because he’s called it reciprocal tariffs, and this is what freaked people out. They’re like, well, hang on. Why how has this worked? And what he’s doing is he’s he’s got the, trade the the balance of trade. So he goes, how much have we paid New Zealand? How much has New Zealand paid us? Divide by one by the other, divide that by two. And it’s a really weird calculation. Like, somebody worked out how they calculate this. And they go, that’s what they’ve calculated this thing from. Why? And somebody else looked at that and went on to chat GPT and said, what’s a fair and balanced way to get tariff? And it gave exactly that.
Sam [00:27:04]:
Oh, okay. Good.
Chris [00:27:05]:
That that thing. Good. So it sounds like it’s unsubstantiated yet, but believable that Trump went on to ChatGPT to work out it.
Sam [00:27:14]:
I’m gonna say Elon.
Chris [00:27:15]:
Yeah. Or someone. Yeah. And that’s the best joke I’ve heard now was now economists know how doctors felt when he said inject bleach.
Sam [00:27:25]:
Oh my god. Because tariffs are just gonna kill everyone. Anyway, onto something better. A man from Wellington named Matt Tarkeek, is on a mission to save Kiwis from bad pies. He’s made an app called Mean Pies, and you can rate and upload photos of pies around the country, and, apparently, it’s taking off. So this is very much like, what’s the beer drinking one? Have you met people that do that? No. I’m sure Jeremy Housen’s involved in it.
Chris [00:27:52]:
There’s a So you can rate rate beers that you can’t beers.
Sam [00:27:56]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sense. But that’s been around for a long time. Like, I wanna say fifteen years. And and the people that have that are really into it. They’re like, oh, I’m gonna drive this other beer and that because I think you can collect because it’s the old
Chris [00:28:09]:
old Foursquare.
Sam [00:28:11]:
Oh, yeah. Sort of. Like Jesus. That was old. I clicked that
Chris [00:28:14]:
every day. Yeah. Yeah.
Sam [00:28:15]:
Not the dairy that’s available now. No. But Foursquare, the location based check-in app thing?
Chris [00:28:21]:
Yeah. But instead of checking into a place, you’re checking in a beer that you’ve got. That’s right.
Sam [00:28:25]:
Yeah. So anyway but back to Mean Pies. Yeah. He said people were excited about it. It had a solid following since, launching at the March. He goes it’s taken off pretty hard everyone’s pretty excited about it that’s what he looks like so that’s how I’m doing his voice he’s got a very glorious beard, he’s still plugging away still trying to make it better, he’s already got 300 registered accounts and about a thousand downloads. Now when this airs, he’s gonna have at least an extra what do you reckon? Two more downloads. No.
Sam [00:29:00]:
I don’t know. Who knows? Check it out. You get to see all the pies in the country, and you can click on the pie shop, and you get directions to the pie shop. It gives you some specific guidelines on how to review them, which is pretty good, actually, because you do want to, talk about the structural integrity, what it’s made off up of on the inside, and a nice photo of this fresh pie. So, like, the the example that here, someone’s made a mac and cheese pie. Dunno if that’s any good or not. He goes, it’s obviously completely subjective. Yeah.
Sam [00:29:33]:
Anyway, we will have a link to that in the show notes at chrisandsampodcast.com.
Chris [00:29:38]:
1 more thing before we finish up.
Sam [00:29:40]:
You got twelve seconds.
Chris [00:29:41]:
RIP Balcomer.
Sam [00:29:43]:
Did you
Chris [00:29:43]:
hear about that? Yes. So I I haven’t heard any details of what happened like he’s old, so maybe that was it. But, yeah, that was a bit of a surprise. I went in to look at his filmography. Yeah. That’s it’s huge. It is. Yeah.
Chris [00:29:58]:
How big it was. And, I’m gonna say I’ve never seen The Doors, although I did go to the movie. But I’ve never seen The Doors. I didn’t realize he was the lead in that.
Sam [00:30:10]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Chris [00:30:11]:
But yeah. I mean, always been known for Top Gun for me.
Sam [00:30:14]:
He was in some rapper’s music video five weeks ago when he put on the Batman mask.
Chris [00:30:19]:
Oh, really?
Sam [00:30:19]:
Apparently, but I thought he was bedridden the whole time. And, there’s a clip from, what’s it called? Is it Warwick Warwick Warwick Davies, the little midget guy? Dwarf?
Chris [00:30:32]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Sam [00:30:33]:
Yeah. He did the TV show called
Chris [00:30:35]:
They they did the movie Willow back in the day.
Sam [00:30:38]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. But, yeah, he’s got a TV show, the comedy show, and Ricky Gervais and, Stephen Merchant are in it.
Chris [00:30:45]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:30:45]:
And they’re at dinner, and he’s got Val Kilmer standing there by the Batman mask, and they’re like, guess who this is? And they’re going through all the Batmans except for Val Kilmer because no one can remember that. And he takes it off. He goes, we’re Mickey Willow two. We need 5,000 pounds. I’ll have a link to it. I can’t remember what that show was. He and yeah. Anyways,
Chris [00:31:02]:
please That’d be cool.
Sam [00:31:03]:
And then next thing you know, he goes, I’m going over there. And then you you just see Val Kilmer standing next to this other table with the mascot. Guess who I am?
Chris [00:31:09]:
I saw it’s actually pretty funny because I saw this is old too. I saw a a Saturday night look. Yeah. Saturday night live, which, mustn’t be too long after the what’s the Top Gun film?
Sam [00:31:22]:
Yeah. Top Gun. Yep.
Chris [00:31:23]:
Yeah. Where it’s like Iceman, the lady years. And he’s getting into a Boeing seven four seven type thing as a pilot, and he’s just saying, you guys are too dangerous. It’s just it’s quite a good clip. It’s really old. It’s like god. It was late eighties, but, yeah, it was really good.
Sam [00:31:41]:
Life’s too short is the show. You can find the clips on YouTube. I think he appears in quite a few of the clips as himself because he’s obviously trying to help come up with some plans and stuff. Yeah. So, anyway, went through, some sort of cancer, I think.
Chris [00:31:55]:
Yeah. Yeah. Because he he’d he’d lost his voice, and he did really well in that other Top Gun. I thought the way that they Handled that. Handled that was really good. So yeah.
Sam [00:32:04]:
And I think I think it was that when when they rang him for that, he said I’m too sick, and Tom Cruise basically dropped everything, and they took the whole crew to him Yeah. And filmed around him. So, anyway, that brings us to the end of the podcast. Hope that doesn’t bring it down a little bit. But, no, make sure to check out our back catalog, spread the word, have a listen, and maybe send us a message.
Chris [00:32:27]:
Yeah. Absolutely.
Sam [00:32:28]:
Okay. Until next time. I’m Sam.
Chris [00:32:29]:
I’m Chris. See you. Bye.
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