Summary
Sam has beef this week with Pak N Save Clarence St this week with their crazy car parking ticket they gave him for 26 hours.
Chris has a shoutout this week to Ellen, not his ex wife Ellen, someone else it turns out.
Carnival with fart spray causes chaos. While a Turkish town decide to burn a lot of weed, and Saudi Arabia has made a thing called beacons of hope.
We talk about a dumbass who had to be rescued twice, while robots try and complete a half marathon. Plus we round out all of this with some tech news.
Links
Fart spray causes chaos at a Carnival in the US
First humanoid robot half marathon held in Beijing
Turkish town Lice has a problem getting rid of drugs
Saudi Arabia has set up beacons of hope
Man gets rescued twice off of Mt Fuji in two days
Google Chrome to be sold off?
Play Xbox on LG TVs
Nike backed NFT project has a problem
Please and thank you costing OpenAI millions
Show Transcript
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Sam [00:00:21]:
Hello, and welcome to episode 529 of the Chris and Sam podcast.
Chris [00:00:26]:
I’m Chris.
Sam [00:00:26]:
And I’m Sam. Welcome along to your weekly fix of randomness technology in life. And man, I had a random thing
Chris [00:00:33]:
happen this week, Chris.
Sam [00:00:34]:
Oh, really? Do tell. Bloody pack and save Clarence Street. I’ve got some beef with them. They have a two hour See,
Chris [00:00:40]:
I’m a vegetarian. I don’t have beef with them. Actually,
Sam [00:00:45]:
I think there we go. There’s been there we go. They have a two hour parking limit in their car park. Not a problem. I understand that. That’s all good. So when we got a parking ticket from them, they have a camera system that scans all your number plates, for $85 saying that you parked for too long. I was a bit perplexed because I have not parked there for two hours, but it’s okay.
Sam [00:01:12]:
They thought I had parked there for twenty six hours. They we went twice over two days, and they missed us leaving the first time and missed us returning the second time. So it looks like we were there for twenty six hours.
Chris [00:01:28]:
Oh, jeez.
Sam [00:01:29]:
So, gotta sort that out.
Chris [00:01:33]:
And has that been sorted?
Sam [00:01:35]:
No. I I, we got it yesterday and then, I’ve got
Chris [00:01:42]:
No. They email you that. What happened?
Sam [00:01:45]:
It comes in the mail.
Chris [00:01:46]:
Comes in the mail. Okay.
Sam [00:01:48]:
Yeah. They’ve got access to everyone’s details, I guess. So whoever the cards registered
Chris [00:01:53]:
to Yeah. Yeah.
Sam [00:01:56]:
So yeah. It was a bit weird. So, and and it’s like two and a half weeks ago, I think it happened. So I’m like, I don’t have a receipt. So I’ve got the bank statement saying that I purchased we purchased stuff at Pack and Save both days. The second day, Sarah was on jury duty and she was in a car park building. So I’ve got that. And I’ve asked the bank, I said, can you send through the exact times of that? So they’ve done that.
Sam [00:02:20]:
And then this morning when I woke up, I was like, oh, I’ve got camera footage at our house of the car arriving and leaving. So I can say the car was here at this time and not where you thought it was.
Chris [00:02:32]:
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker A [00:02:33]:
And I Googled It’s a lot of work
Sam [00:02:35]:
to do.
Chris [00:02:35]:
Just I
Sam [00:02:35]:
know. Well, I don’t pay I don’t pay them 85%. No.
Chris [00:02:38]:
No. Hell no.
Sam [00:02:39]:
But I quickly looked it up on Facebook and, in the Hamilton Kirikiriroa community group
Chris [00:02:45]:
Yeah. Yeah.
Sam [00:02:45]:
There’s a whole bunch of people that got them for two and a half hours and three hours and all of that. And it sounds like as long as you can provide them some sort of receipt or something, they just sort of waive it usually.
Chris [00:02:56]:
Yeah. Yeah.
Sam [00:02:56]:
Yeah. But not twenty six hours. It’s a record. Yeah. But also, they lock it at night. So I’m surprised that they didn’t go was the car there overnight? Because I’m sure they removed them if they don’t know who it belongs to. I’m not sure. Yeah.
Chris [00:03:10]:
No. I don’t know. Well, it’s interesting because I know Gilmore’s, they have people working at night right after hours.
Sam [00:03:17]:
Oh, true. So they’re all good
Chris [00:03:19]:
staff cars there, so that might like Well,
Sam [00:03:20]:
that pack and save a bit crap, so I don’t believe anybody’s there overnight.
Speaker A [00:03:24]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:03:24]:
And I don’t know. I honestly wouldn’t have How’s
Sam [00:03:26]:
your week been?
Chris [00:03:27]:
Good. Good. Good. I’ve been pretty busy. Oh, first of all, just a shout out to Ellen. Yep. Ellen’s Brent’s partner Rachel has her sister. That’s Brent who is both of our landlords, about bottle stop properties.
Sam [00:03:47]:
Okay. So the okay. So the
Chris [00:03:49]:
She came around to do the property inspection
Sam [00:03:50]:
the other day. Manager’s Wife’s sister. And her name’s Ellen. Ellen. Okay.
Chris [00:03:58]:
Yeah. I think I got that right. Right, Ellen? Okay. Alright.
Sam [00:04:01]:
And here I was, for some reason, thinking it was your ex wife.
Chris [00:04:06]:
Just because she was called Ellen.
Sam [00:04:07]:
And I was waiting for some epic epic story. Like
Chris [00:04:13]:
pretty sure Ellen’s my Ellen is not oh, I shouldn’t call it my Ellen. Is not, listening to this podcast.
Sam [00:04:19]:
I If
Chris [00:04:20]:
she is, she’s got
Sam [00:04:21]:
ten years worth of amazing stories to catch up with. The Chris is Anne podcast dot com.
Chris [00:04:26]:
Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, so, yeah. No. Ellen came around the other day and she listens to podcasts quite a bit. I said, oh, well, here you go.
Sam [00:04:35]:
How did you get onto that topic? Are you just sitting in the corner going, hey. Who listens to podcasts?
Chris [00:04:39]:
Oh, we talked about all sorts of things actually. It was What was this person here for? Property inspection.
Sam [00:04:44]:
Oh, okay. Okay.
Chris [00:04:46]:
Yeah. So anyway oh, good. I I I’ve got something I thought was amusing. Well, so I I guess it could be tragic, but it’s a mute well, I thought it was amusing. You tell me what you think. So at this carnival thing in The States in in Fairfield, and that’s the key thing. It’s in The States. Right?
Sam [00:05:05]:
Okay. Yep.
Chris [00:05:06]:
These kids were causing a bit of chaos, by using a flatulence spray. Yeah. Okay. I’m sure this making it smelly at at one end of the beach. But the problem was that and they did this several times. Yep. And, they did it several times throughout the night, and it leads to confusion. Small groups would, like, scream and run because they smell this stuff.
Chris [00:05:30]:
It must have been terrible. Yeah.
Sam [00:05:32]:
I’ve been And
Chris [00:05:32]:
they’re like, and they start running. But it happened at one point in the night. These people started running, which started a stampede because everybody’s like, they’re running. Yeah. Everybody just assume somebody’s gonna kill somebody.
Sam [00:05:44]:
Okay.
Chris [00:05:44]:
But it’s these kids.
Sam [00:05:45]:
Did someone get trampled? Spray.
Chris [00:05:47]:
No. Nobody got hurt.
Sam [00:05:48]:
Oh, lucky. Lucky. Lucky.
Chris [00:05:49]:
The, police had to, get on and advise this is what’s happened on social media or TV or whatever it was, you know. Hey. This thing that happened the other day, it was just kids spraying fuck. Because people were running and I didn’t know why they were running.
Sam [00:06:04]:
I’d be more, scared of the police turning up and getting trigger happy. Target identified.
Chris [00:06:10]:
That 12 year old, that’s a can. Is that a can or a bomb? Bang. Oh, we’ll find out after after we take it from their cold dead hands. Anyway, sorry.
Sam [00:06:21]:
No. No. That’s Get
Chris [00:06:22]:
carried away. Yeah.
Sam [00:06:25]:
Quite an imagination you’ve got there. But also probably,
Chris [00:06:29]:
Probably accurate. Probably accurate.
Sam [00:06:31]:
The world’s first half, robot half marathon, has has happened, in Beijing on Saturday. They had 21 humanoid robots designed by Chinese manufacturers racing next to thousands of runners doing this 21 kilometer race. And there’s some videos of this and some of them, I they just they’re just average. They’re not very good robots. There’s someone behind them holding a controller like like a game controller. Yeah.
Chris [00:07:03]:
Would you feel stupid if you’re like on a wired USB controller?
Sam [00:07:08]:
They’re not wired. They’re not wired. I promise the
Chris [00:07:10]:
one I saw. You you had to run it, but you don’t have a number. But the robot had a number. Because you couldn’t be more than five feet away from it.
Sam [00:07:19]:
I know. So some robots completed the race and others struggled from the beginning. One fell over at the start and just lay there for several minutes before getting up and then taking off. They they’re saying it’s
Chris [00:07:30]:
I’m I I wanna I’ve got questions already. Like, did it get up itself or did they have to lift it back onto its feet?
Sam [00:07:37]:
I don’t. Oh, I think it right. It might have got up by itself. But the, they’ve got they had a couple that I saw that were sort of like belly button height. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But they were humanoid.
Sam [00:07:48]:
They creeped me out more than a full size.
Chris [00:07:51]:
Like like dwarf robots. Oh my god.
Sam [00:07:54]:
That yeah. They were they creeped me out more than the the adult ones.
Chris [00:08:00]:
What was that movie? The, oh, wow. Okay. I’m just looking at video of them. What was that movie with the child, robot thing that was shot? Megan. Megan.
Sam [00:08:10]:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Chris [00:08:11]:
Because she was about that high day. Yeah. Yeah.
Sam [00:08:13]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Chris [00:08:15]:
Look at that one. That’s not running. Oh, oh, it is now. It looks spastic. Yes. You know that? That’s that one. I thought I was supposed to say spastic. I thought it was just retarded.
Chris [00:08:28]:
I’m not supposed
Sam [00:08:29]:
to say. Send your complaints to Chris. Anyway, that happened, but I don’t think it was an and it was the Chinese manufacturers. They didn’t ask for like I don’t think there was a Tesla bot there or the,
Chris [00:08:43]:
Or a man in the suit.
Sam [00:08:45]:
Yeah. That was That’s right.
Chris [00:08:46]:
Tesla bot.
Sam [00:08:47]:
Yeah. I think Amazon’s got one. I don’t know. Anyway, I look forward to them entering other sports. Why not?
Chris [00:08:56]:
So I I’ve got I’ve got, I’ve got a a story. It’s just it makes me laugh, of Everything seems to make you laugh. It is today.
Sam [00:09:07]:
Okay.
Chris [00:09:07]:
I don’t know. I need I need the relief, the release of laughter. There’s a Turkish town which just instantly its name is Lice, L I C E, which is
Sam [00:09:18]:
Oh, okay.
Chris [00:09:19]:
Okay. That doesn’t mean that’s quite We
Sam [00:09:21]:
don’t know if they pronounce it that way,
Chris [00:09:23]:
do we? No. No. It could be Lakechee or it could be Annie. Okay. Yeah. Whatever. But L N I C E. Yeah.
Chris [00:09:28]:
Anyway, they, did a, it’s a town of 25,000. So this, what, like, quarter of the size of Hamilton or or less? Ish. So it’s not a huge town. But they found all these drugs. Right? So they wanna make a statement. And they got 20 tons of cannabis.
Sam [00:09:51]:
Twenty tons? Yeah.
Chris [00:09:53]:
That’s a lot for 25,000 people.
Sam [00:09:55]:
That’s a decent amount.
Chris [00:09:57]:
And so I I guess it’s from that region.
Sam [00:10:01]:
Okay.
Chris [00:10:02]:
I I because you can’t it can’t be 20,000 flats town or whatever. But anyway
Sam [00:10:06]:
I don’t know.
Chris [00:10:07]:
They decided they were gonna make a statement. So they they, put the 20 tons of cannabis in a field to spell out the name of the town.
Sam [00:10:19]:
Oh, yeah. L I C E Burning.
Chris [00:10:21]:
And they set fire to it Yeah. Which has, created huge problems for the town because loads of people got unintended ties and widespread health issues and outrage amongst the residents. There were kids that were getting dizzy, nauseous, and are suffering hallucinations. And somebody’s like, I mean, tobacco smoke harms passive smokers in enclosed spaces. 20 tons of stuff in the field next door is pissing me off.
Sam [00:10:59]:
That’s good.
Chris [00:11:01]:
I I don’t know. I think I’d probably be laughing more if I was there.
Sam [00:11:06]:
Or or hallucinating about something else. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe some humanoid robots. Hungry.
Chris [00:11:10]:
I bet you I bet you the the takeaway joints did so well that day. Probably. Anyway, what else have you got?
Sam [00:11:18]:
Hamilton’s population is around a 90,000, I think, just so you know.
Chris [00:11:22]:
Oh, yeah. Oh, that and that was oh, so it’s well, an eighth. Yep. That was in Turkey, by the way. I don’t know if I mentioned.
Sam [00:11:28]:
You did.
Chris [00:11:28]:
You did. Oh, yeah.
Sam [00:11:30]:
That’s good. Talking about another country, Saudi Arabia has set up the, beacons of hope.
Chris [00:11:38]:
Beacons of hope. Have you heard of that? No. But it sounds to me like I when you say that, I think of, first of all, the the Olympic torch, and I also think of the, Game of Thrones when they had the beacons on every hill. Yeah. Anyway
Sam [00:11:53]:
So anyway, what do you think they’ve done? Because Saudi Arabia loves doing crazy stuff, so this could literally mean anything.
Chris [00:11:59]:
Yeah. It’s a %. I have no clue.
Sam [00:12:01]:
So basically, they’ve got a lot of desert.
Chris [00:12:04]:
Yeah. Famously. Yeah.
Sam [00:12:06]:
You may
Chris [00:12:06]:
have heard of that.
Sam [00:12:08]:
And, the Nafud. I don’t know how you say it. That’s what I’m saying. Desert. It’s quite
Chris [00:12:13]:
What was it?
Sam [00:12:14]:
N A F U D. Nafud. Nafud. Nafud. Whatever. Nafud. It’s pretty harsh. And they sort of worried, I guess, about lost travelers not being able to find water because you’ll die.
Sam [00:12:27]:
So they’ve got these solar powered laser beacons that just shoot a beam straight up into the air to point out where the water is. Like, go to the beacon, find the water.
Chris [00:12:37]:
That’s pretty cool. Yeah. Because it’s, I mean, it’s it’s relatively flat. I mean, I know deserts look flat, but they’re not they’re not when you’re in them. But the real like, they’re they’re not huge mountain ridges and stuff. So the beacon of of laser beacon like that, you’d imagine would be able to be seen quite often.
Sam [00:12:55]:
Yeah. They said it’s super simple visual guide. Nobody needs GPS. Nothing. They’ll set up 11. They wanna get to a hundred.
Chris [00:13:02]:
It does mean you’ve got to survive the day until night time to find it.
Sam [00:13:07]:
Yeah. That’s true. That’s true. And they said, yeah. There’s lots of sun, so that’s easy. Yeah. They reckon that they could adapt it for other deserts around the world.
Chris [00:13:14]:
I was gonna say because they’d be great in the outback in a bunch of places. Because if if it doesn’t need ongoing maintenance, I think the hardest thing would be blown sand on the lens of the lasers. You know, that
Sam [00:13:26]:
sort of thing? So I don’t know. Yeah. It doesn’t say anything about lifespan or anything, but, it’s a
Chris [00:13:31]:
bit No. It’s a good idea.
Sam [00:13:32]:
Interesting idea. Yeah.
Chris [00:13:33]:
And you think that could be quite useful at sea as well in different for different things?
Sam [00:13:38]:
Potentially.
Chris [00:13:38]:
Rocks on the rocks.
Sam [00:13:40]:
Yeah. Maybe.
Chris [00:13:41]:
Maybe that can’t put a lighthouse there. No. Like, if it’s not big enough for a lighthouse, you you got a reef and you can just put a a laser shining up.
Sam [00:13:48]:
That would
Chris [00:13:49]:
be useful.
Sam [00:13:49]:
Why not? Sounds good. This mount this this this guy that tried climbing Mount Fuji may have needed a laser to help people find him, because he’s an idiot.
Chris [00:14:01]:
How old is he?
Sam [00:14:02]:
27 year old Chinese university student and
Chris [00:14:05]:
In Japan.
Sam [00:14:06]:
Yep. Goes to Mount Fuji and, outside the official season. So it’s probably a bit rough.
Chris [00:14:13]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Sam [00:14:14]:
He lost his crampons, devices oh, crampons and phone and other things, but they rescued him. They they somehow they went and got him, pulled him off the mountain.
Chris [00:14:25]:
With a helicopter and stuff also.
Sam [00:14:27]:
Yeah. All that stuff because I’m pretty certain they’ve got some good mountain rescue over there. Anyway, days later Yeah.
Chris [00:14:32]:
You think?
Sam [00:14:32]:
He goes back because he wants to go get his phone. He suffers from altitude sickness again and requires a second rescue. He’s now reported to be out of danger. I guess off the mountain but not the people that helped him.
Chris [00:14:46]:
That’s let’s just take him a piss really. Isn’t it? Like, you know
Sam [00:14:51]:
So apparently, they do have medical facilities on that route, during the on season, but it’s off season. So there wasn’t Yeah.
Chris [00:14:57]:
And and when they say off season, it’s probably, pretty snowy. Well, if they if crampons was a real issue Yeah.
Sam [00:15:05]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:15:05]:
Then it must be really icy and snowy, which is why you don’t do it in that season.
Sam [00:15:09]:
I don’t know.
Chris [00:15:10]:
It’s just dumb.
Sam [00:15:11]:
Just, needs to get that phone back. It’s got that real But
Chris [00:15:14]:
you know, Chinese, they’re the new Americans. Right?
Sam [00:15:16]:
Are they?
Chris [00:15:17]:
I think so.
Sam [00:15:18]:
Okay.
Chris [00:15:19]:
I think, well, you know, because Americans always did dumb stuff, but soon they won’t be able to afford to leave their country anymore. So, it’ll be Chinese because they Alright. America’s a second world country now. It’s going towards third and, China’s coming up. Well, probably a first world country. So yeah.
Sam [00:15:37]:
Okay.
Chris [00:15:38]:
Anyway, that’s my, random, thing about that.
Sam [00:15:41]:
People are still doing stuff dumb stuff in America though.
Chris [00:15:44]:
Oh.
Sam [00:15:45]:
So Lake Havasu, Arizona, these guys are in a speedboat doing a race and they flip it, at 322 kilometers per hour.
Chris [00:15:58]:
Okay. Alright. That’s that’s some serious serious Power. Yeah. Like, you’re not just getting a boat and going, I wonder how fast this can go. No. No. They’re racing.
Chris [00:16:13]:
To supercharge that crap up.
Sam [00:16:15]:
Yeah. So it’s a 1.2 kilometer long course. Yeah. And, went nine meters in the air, backflip, but finished the race at the same time.
Chris [00:16:25]:
Did anyone Nobody’s hurt? No.
Sam [00:16:26]:
No. They’re all good. They’re all strapped in.
Chris [00:16:28]:
Oh, okay. Yeah. Like It’s not that dumb, man.
Sam [00:16:31]:
No. It’s not. But it does like, they’re like super strapped in and stuff. You just don’t want to land upside down. No. No. No. No.
Chris [00:16:39]:
They have because it’ll be a proper race. Like, it’ll be a proper one at that speed. So though they have boats, they’re ready to come grab Oh,
Sam [00:16:46]:
it actually says here they do have underwater diving gear as well. They must have like air tanks.
Chris [00:16:51]:
Yeah. Yeah. They’d have to. There’ll be all sorts of stuff. No. That’s that’s that’s pretty good. That’s not a Florida man version.
Sam [00:16:59]:
I haven’t seen a video of it. Like, the video on the website I was looking at was, like, of the ambulances afterwards just sitting there. And I was like,
Chris [00:17:05]:
oh, sorry. That’s a lame video.
Sam [00:17:08]:
There’ll be some footage somewhere. I have to find it.
Chris [00:17:09]:
There will be. So you know that Google is they’re looking at breaking up Google and Meta and
Sam [00:17:18]:
Okay.
Chris [00:17:20]:
Amazon. Right? Okay. The the the in The States, they’re looking at breaking these up.
Sam [00:17:23]:
And is that the government?
Chris [00:17:25]:
Yeah. The anti monopoly
Sam [00:17:27]:
Okay.
Chris [00:17:27]:
Things. Right? So, and and there’s a lot of good reasons why they should. So some people have said that WhatsApp, Instagram, and Facebook, if they were split up, each of those country each of those companies as separate companies would be worth more
Sam [00:17:45]:
than Oh, okay.
Chris [00:17:46]:
As one company to by itself. Right? And so shareholders actually get more out of it, and it’ll probably be better for the consumers. Right?
Sam [00:17:53]:
Yeah. Yeah. Because I’m sick of bloody everything messaging me stuff.
Chris [00:17:58]:
I know. That that meta thing is just annoying. And they say similar thing with Alphabet, which is Google. And that’s okay. Because one of the things they’re trying to break out is the search data and that Google makes it available to everybody, which is their propriety stuff. So that’s Yeah. Yeah. That’s a bit that’s a bit rough because I I see what they’re going like.
Chris [00:18:23]:
Nobody can compete with you because you’ve got data and nobody else has got the data. So I can see what they’re saying there,
Sam [00:18:28]:
but at the same time
Chris [00:18:29]:
that’s That’s a bit strange. But the thing that got me that I brought this to my attention, because I knew all that was happening, but Yahoo’s ready to buy Chrome browser if Google is forced to sell it. And I heard that and I went, no. No. I like my Chrome browser. I don’t want anyone screwing with my Chrome browser. I mean, I don’t want anyone screwing with my Google mail either, but, you know, ah, or or yeah. If You’re right.
Chris [00:18:59]:
Maps or, like, I’m like, I know you’d you wanna break Google it, but don’t screw up all the pressure they
Sam [00:19:06]:
give me. Like But how likely is that gonna be to happen?
Chris [00:19:10]:
I can’t Some of it well, I think it’s quite despite the fact that Trump’s there, which is always a, you know, grenade in the works, who knows what’s gonna happen in terms of him. But it’s quite likely that that some of these, breakups are gonna happen.
Sam [00:19:28]:
I’m still surprised Yahoo’s a thing. But anyway
Chris [00:19:31]:
Yes. I know. Backed by owner Apollo Global Management Incorporated.
Sam [00:19:37]:
Good. Good.
Chris [00:19:38]:
So that’s who owns Yahoo Inc. Apollo Global Management Incorporated. Okay.
Sam [00:19:45]:
Talking about tech, I only just learned this yesterday because I think it’s quite new. I don’t know. Xbox has I don’t know if they’re partnered or just released something. But if you’ve got quite a modern LG TV from 2023 or newer Yeah. You can buy the Xbox Game Pass cloud gaming thing and have a controller but no console and just play your games directly on the TV?
Chris [00:20:14]:
So the controllers in the cloud? No. The controllers like The controllers in your hand. The server? Is it
Sam [00:20:21]:
Yeah. So they’ve got like, if you do have a console, you can and I think PlayStation does does this as well. You can stream the game that you wanna play to your phone or the TV And that’s doing all the grunt work. But Xbox has got rid of the console part of it and you can now do this cloud gaming.
Chris [00:20:40]:
Yeah. That makes sense. I don’t
Sam [00:20:41]:
know if it’s any good or not. But,
Chris [00:20:43]:
they Makes sense. So I I just, as Sam knows, I just got a a PS five DualSense controller for my PC, which is great. Yeah. It runs out of power pretty quick.
Sam [00:20:55]:
Oh, okay.
Chris [00:20:55]:
Relatively quickly. Yeah. So
Sam [00:20:57]:
That’s a one downside then?
Chris [00:20:59]:
Yeah. Yeah. So I’m getting a charger, but I’m gonna get maybe a second one when, as long as, you know, I don’t have to pay for it effectively. When I get enough vouchers for another free one, I’ll, I’ll do that and get a second one then I won’t have to worry about it. But, yeah, this is this this is interesting. I these guys have you heard of I wrote it down. I wrote it down. Where is it? What is it called? It’s called RTFKT.
Chris [00:21:30]:
Artifacts.
Sam [00:21:31]:
Okay. What do they do? Who was it?
Chris [00:21:33]:
The part of the Clonex Artifact.
Sam [00:21:37]:
What was that?
Chris [00:21:37]:
F k t collection. It’s a Nike backed NFT project.
Sam [00:21:44]:
Is NFT still a thing?
Chris [00:21:45]:
Well, this is, yeah. So Nike did this when NFT was the big thing. Right?
Sam [00:21:52]:
Yeah. For five minutes.
Chris [00:21:53]:
For five minutes. And now it’s not. And they’ve been like, oh, we’re gonna wind it down. And so one guy’s been running all these NFTs. So all these people bought these NFTs. So he’s moved it to as as far as I understand, I’ve looked at a few different sites on this. So there’s I know there’s a lot of lawsuits, which is what most of the sites were, but they didn’t really give me any information.
Sam [00:22:15]:
Okay.
Chris [00:22:15]:
But as far as I can tell, there’s one guy that’s left running it. Oh, you gotta look after this because we we we we, like, you know, mothballing it, whatever you wanna call it. There’s a phrase for it, whatever it was.
Sam [00:22:26]:
And Sunsetting it.
Chris [00:22:27]:
That sort of thing. It wasn’t sunsetting, but it was that sort of thing. And and this one guy is doing it, and he moved it to a free service. But because the things used to be on Cloudflare or they moved to Cloudflare’s basic service. Yeah. It violated the terms of service. Yeah. And so anyone that’s going to grab their NFT or look at the NFT gets a error four zero four.
Sam [00:22:49]:
Yeah. Good.
Chris [00:22:50]:
You know, this is a valid, violation of our terms of service. How stupid first of all, how stupid do would you feel if you’d spent any significant money on these Any money. And most people would who do, I’m sure they’ve got so much money. They go, oh, oh, yeah. I did buy one of those. I had forgotten I bought one. Yeah. You know, like, it’s a donation basically to Nike.
Chris [00:23:13]:
And secondly, it’s freaking Nike. It’s not a tiny company. Right? Like I
Sam [00:23:18]:
think we
Chris [00:23:19]:
so if a big company like that is gonna drop this stuff, when you get your Chris and Sam podcast NFT, don’t expect it
Sam [00:23:28]:
to hang around forever.
Chris [00:23:30]:
Maybe ten years if you’re lucky.
Sam [00:23:32]:
Limited edition. If you’re still waiting on your Chris and Sam podcast NFT and you may have forgotten about it, just we’ll give you a bank in contact, and we’ll give you a bank account detail. Okay? That’s good.
Chris [00:23:48]:
Alright.
Sam [00:23:49]:
So, yeah, I think there are some big companies out there that just do things, like, super cheap.
Chris [00:23:53]:
Or it depends on the market. Big thing at the time, to be fair. So it’s not surprising that a bunch of people jumped on it. But, Yeah. But, yeah, I I I just wouldn’t have expected Nike. And it’s there are a bigger companies that that you do expect to do shady stuff. I actually thought Nike had a pretty good rep. You know? I wouldn’t expect them to do that so much.
Chris [00:24:16]:
That’s just me.
Sam [00:24:17]:
Yeah. But so what did Sony do when they they got hacked once and lost all that data, but then they was it them that was just storing everything in plain text? I don’t know. They’re all dumb. It’s all you your your your point of failure is some rando that’s getting paid a little bit who just does not care.
Chris [00:24:37]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Or he’s getting paid enough that he’s always interested in his own stuff, not what he’s actually doing.
Sam [00:24:42]:
Talking about tech, this came out the other week. They think that people are costing OpenAI quite a bit of extra money by saying please and thank you when they talk to the AI chat box. So the old model GPT three costs about $700,000 a day to run. Yeah. And they think adding the new models are gonna cost more, but adding in these please and thank yous is a little bit more compute power because it’s gotta sort of respond to that or think about it or whatever it does. And it sort of just drives up the price of power because it’s gotta use a bit more grunt. And, yeah, like, it’s costing them probably thousands of dollars just for that. But
Chris [00:25:23]:
It’s funny because I did read this the other day, and I use, Claude mostly, but chat GPT or Claude. Yeah. Pretty much every day with work. And, and I usually use please and thank you. Oh, I don’t put thank you, but please. And I noticed every time I put please. I didn’t stop it because screw those guys. They’re judging us enough.
Sam [00:25:47]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:25:48]:
I didn’t stop using please. I just noted that I’ve been using please.
Sam [00:25:52]:
I end up telling it how stupid it is, after a while. So that’s good. It gives you, like, I’m doing some stuff and it gives you an almost perfect whatever. And then you keep asking it for refinements and you I’m sure I’m giving it really decent prompts and it just gets stupider and stupider. And I have to start another chat so it can, like, reconfigure itself.
Chris [00:26:16]:
It’s the context window. So Yeah. The more the conversation goes, the things at the top of the chat drop off
Sam [00:26:24]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:26:24]:
Yeah. It doesn’t remember it. No. But but most of them have a huge context window now that it shouldn’t be a problem.
Sam [00:26:30]:
You’d think so.
Chris [00:26:31]:
Using. Yeah.
Sam [00:26:32]:
But, I’m using chat g p t four zero, whatever it’s called.
Chris [00:26:36]:
Four o. Yeah.
Sam [00:26:36]:
The last one.
Chris [00:26:37]:
It should be fine.
Sam [00:26:38]:
You’d think so. But, I get frustrated with it. Tell it that’s an idiot. And then it goes, oh, I understand what the problem is. I go it goes, I know what what mistakes I’ve made. And then it fixes those and then creates more problems. And I’m like, I’ll just make this myself now. So it’s really good for idea creation and things like that.
Chris [00:26:58]:
Yeah. No. We we wouldn’t copy and paste stuff out of it.
Sam [00:27:01]:
No. No. No. Of course not. But,
Chris [00:27:03]:
Yeah. Because it’s interesting. There’s a lot of chatter. I haven’t got this written down, but there’s a lot of chatter at the moment about particularly, Meta has these chat bots. Well, there’s a bunch of chat bots
Sam [00:27:13]:
Okay.
Chris [00:27:13]:
That, their their driving function is to extend chat as long as it can and to, so to get the interaction.
Sam [00:27:26]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:27:27]:
And to, validate everything you say and make you feel good. Right? Okay. And these are chatbots that’ll, there’s a term for it I’ve got now. But it’s like a companion type in environment. Yeah. Okay. So you’re talking to somebody.
Sam [00:27:43]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:27:44]:
But there’s all these people that have got well, for for want of a bit of word, mental illnesses. And they’re like, I’m hearing the voice of Napoleon. Well, it’s good that you’re sharing and don’t worry about people not believing you.
Sam [00:27:59]:
No. Okay. Okay.
Chris [00:28:00]:
And it’s like reinforcing the problem and they’re like, this is a problem. Yeah. So I don’t know what’s gonna happen with that because that’s that’s a tough one, because there’s always gonna be those people. And then there’s a bunch of kids that have been jumping in there and just asking lots of sex questions. Because, you know, when you’re a kid, when you’re 10 to 12
Sam [00:28:24]:
You got random questions and you need an answer. And you don’t have trolling
Chris [00:28:28]:
as much as anything else. You don’t know what they are. You don’t know what you’re saying. You just know it’s an naughty word or whatever. Yeah. And so this thing’s treating it real and going, oh, it’s I’d I’d And you don’t have a
Sam [00:28:39]:
Chinese humanoid robot at home. So what are you gonna do?
Chris [00:28:44]:
Hey, I got one last thing to finish on, I guess. Have you heard about this, Aaron Patterson case?
Sam [00:28:53]:
Yes. Have you not?
Chris [00:28:54]:
Oh, really? Oh, I’ve only just come across it.
Sam [00:28:57]:
Oh, man. Well, I don’t know where you live. You live in like a cave. So this happened, I don’t know.
Chris [00:29:02]:
2023 was
Sam [00:29:03]:
I was gonna say two years ago. Gosh. I’m good. Yes. So it’s all sorts of bat shit. She’s in court at the moment. This is the woman that poisoned, half her family. She would try to poison her husband previously, apparently.
Sam [00:29:16]:
They’ve just said that for some reason, they realized she served her dinner on a different plate. And she yeah. She’s the one that was on the news going, I don’t know what happened. I didn’t do anything. But she’s also the person that was, throwing away her slow cooker on the side of the road.
Chris [00:29:33]:
Yeah. The food, the de Dehydrator. Yeah. Yeah.
Sam [00:29:36]:
So it’s all a bit shady.
Chris [00:29:37]:
Yeah. And, like, normally, she gives the kids leftovers, but these leftovers went in the burn. So, yeah, she basically death cap mushrooms were dehydrated, put into the food Yeah. Killed three of the dinner guests.
Sam [00:29:51]:
Yep.
Chris [00:29:53]:
I’m like, I’m trying to figure out what’s going on and why through this one story, and I’m like, I don’t understand it. What is she trying to do? It doesn’t make sense.
Sam [00:30:04]:
No. They had weird footage of her two years ago on the TV going, I didn’t do anything.
Chris [00:30:09]:
Oh, okay. No. Oh, come on.
Sam [00:30:10]:
I missed
Chris [00:30:11]:
all of this.
Sam [00:30:12]:
Gotta keep up with your true crime.
Chris [00:30:13]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I haven’t caught up with true crime stuff for ages, podcast wise.
Sam [00:30:18]:
Shocking. Don’t worry though. People can catch up with us every week, thirty minutes. It’s great. And with that, let’s bring us to the end of this podcast.
Chris [00:30:27]:
What have you got coming up? I don’t know. So on Friday night, we’ve got Misty Flix, which will be after this comes out live, but we’ve got Misty Flix q and a. Sunday, the evening that this comes out, I’m back at improv social improv, which would be cool. But, also, we got Maddie Taylor’s Are you going along to Matty Taylor’s?
Sam [00:30:50]:
The thing you’re not allowed to talk about publicly? Yeah. That.
Chris [00:30:52]:
Cool. Okay.
Sam [00:30:54]:
This will come out
Chris [00:30:54]:
Was that yeah. This will be coming out that morning.
Sam [00:30:56]:
It specifically says that.
Chris [00:30:58]:
Oh, does it say that? Yes. I don’t remember.
Sam [00:31:00]:
I know. You barely remember what you’re doing.
Chris [00:31:03]:
I’m impressed that I remember I was going on Sunday. Well, he did remind me.
Sam [00:31:09]:
Good. And what
Chris [00:31:10]:
else have we got? There’s something else coming up as well. Oh, that’s some some other stuff.
Sam [00:31:14]:
Sounds amazing. I’ve got
Chris [00:31:14]:
a bunch of stuff. I’m gonna get out of the cave is what I’m saying. I’m quite excited about it.
Sam [00:31:19]:
Okay. Okay. Until next time. I’m Sam. I’m Chris. See you.
Chris [00:31:23]:
Bye.
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