Summary
Fieldays is happening next week and we are gearing up for it. Chris won’t be taking his bike as he broke that this week, while Sam had to deal with another rat.
We talk about Final Destination Bloodlines, Ukraine and their Spider Web operation.
A NZ Scientist is confident that the company they run can create a new type of reactor. While we learn that Builder.ai was really just using a lot of people for their technology.
All of this and a bit more in this weeks episode.
Links
Fieldays Website
Final Destination Bloodlines
Ukraine’s Operation Spiderweb
NZ Scientist working on nuclear fusion
Builder.ai turns out to be not what it appears
Show Transcript
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Sam [00:00:07]:
Hello and welcome to episode 534 of the Chris and Sam Podcast.
Chris [00:00:26]:
I’m Chris.
Sam [00:00:26]:
And I’m Sam. This is your weekly folks at randoms. Technology and life. That’s what we’re all about. Over 10 years, we’re gearing up for field days. If you don’t know what that means. We go to field days because they let us in for some reason. I think we are the first.
Sam [00:00:40]:
I’m gonna say we were the first podcasters to be there. Were the consistent podcasters. I’m not sure. We talk to random, interesting people and create very short little clips.
Chris [00:00:50]:
Yeah, that’s really it. We meet some really cool people and. And we do those as a separate thing. So, you know, if you want to listen to those, you can. And they share them.
Sam [00:01:00]:
And those businesses love it. The innovation, we don’t know. To be honest, this is probably the year we’ve done more research than any other year. I’ve got a rough idea.
Chris [00:01:10]:
And by we, we mean Sam.
Sam [00:01:14]:
Collectively, I think we’ve got a rough idea of some interesting innovators that are going to be there.
Chris [00:01:21]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:01:21]:
Which is cool. We always find random people either in the home style. Is a home style. What’s that? Tent. Lifestyle tent. The lifestyle tent. And occasionally in the food, whatever they call that one. The food.
Chris [00:01:35]:
Particularly the alcohol.
Sam [00:01:37]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:01:39]:
Someone likes to say, hey, we’d like to interview you for a podcast in the hopes that they’ll give us a bottle of whiskey or something.
Sam [00:01:45]:
That has happened in the past. Anyway, what have you been up to this week?
Chris [00:01:49]:
I. I was just saying I. I rode out to the. The old improv on. On Sunday night and through a pothole. And I bent the seat post on my bike and I sort of managed to get there because I was almost there. So that was.
Sam [00:02:06]:
Oh, it’s on the way there.
Chris [00:02:07]:
On the way there.
Sam [00:02:08]:
Oh, no, that’s even worse.
Chris [00:02:09]:
So then did my improv. That’s all good. And then I. I was like, I should be right to ride back. I’ll just ride back. I bent it as straight as I could, which was not at all.
Sam [00:02:20]:
No.
Chris [00:02:20]:
And as soon as I started, it started rubbing against the wheel. So the seat’s like pointing straight back.
Sam [00:02:27]:
I’m guessing you don’t like it like that.
Chris [00:02:28]:
No, no. So I was pushing it and I was pushing it, like through. Over the bridge and all the busy part. And then when I got to the back Streets. I sort of rode it standing, which is not ideal, but it’s still quicker than walking. So I got, I got home. So I’ve got three AliExpress versions of the bike. Post, seat post.
Sam [00:02:50]:
So he’s got more tri Nasium to come to replace the broken train. Asium.
Chris [00:02:54]:
That’s why I ordered three. So I don’t expect them to last.
Sam [00:02:58]:
But hey, I will say you’re very good at buying multiple things from AliExpress over the years. You’re just like, it’s so cheap. I’ll just get some more just in case.
Chris [00:03:07]:
Well, if this one broke and it’s the same diameter, because I’ve got to get the same diameter, which is by the way, the smallest diameter. I think that bike is probably not made for my weight. I just had to figure out how to say that.
Sam [00:03:21]:
You’re maxing it out properly.
Chris [00:03:22]:
Yeah, I’m maxing it out.
Sam [00:03:23]:
Hey, at least the wheel didn’t buckle. That would have been more annoying.
Chris [00:03:27]:
No, no, no, no. Most of the bike is good.
Sam [00:03:30]:
Oh, that’s good. I had to deal with another rat this week. I in my wisdom. I had giant pumpkin seeds out drying and I was like, this weekend is when I’m going to put them all away and I’m going to film some stuff with it. It’s going to be all great and we’ll test germination. And I go down there and they’re all gone. And I was like, damn it. And I was like, oh, this sucks.
Sam [00:03:50]:
So I was like, yeah, a rat’s coming to the garage. Anyway, set a trap. And then the next morning.
Chris [00:03:57]:
You already had the trap from last time.
Sam [00:03:58]:
Yes.
Chris [00:03:59]:
Yep.
Sam [00:03:59]:
Yeah, yeah. And at field days I might be buying a very expensive. A high tech trap.
Chris [00:04:05]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:04:06]:
That kills multiples and tells you that it’s done it via Bluetooth and things like that. But we will see. Anyway, so anyway, the next morning that was good. It went down.
Chris [00:04:14]:
Which we will have on the Internet so people can watch samsrat.com.
Sam [00:04:19]:
Yeah, that could be something. But yeah, so set the trap. And the next morning, went down there, trap was knocked off the shelf, but there was a rat laying on the shelf looking dead. And I was like, okay, it’s been killed and somehow got out. So that was all good. Later on I went back down there. This time it was sitting there staring at me with its beady little eyes just like hunched up. And I was like, oh, I don’t like that.
Sam [00:04:44]:
And then left that for a little bit.
Chris [00:04:46]:
And then I went back with a hammer.
Sam [00:04:50]:
Yeah, well, that’s right. We went back down. Actually we had to go out. So we looked down there and it sort of was still on the shelf and it moved over a little bit and I was like, oh, okay, it’s really stuffed. But it’s just moved a little bit. Sweet. So we come back and then we realized it moved a little bit further. And I was like, sweet.
Sam [00:05:08]:
And then we’re gonna go down and get rid of the rat and then fill up. There’s a hole that goes into the wall. And we think it was a outlet for a dryer.
Chris [00:05:19]:
Oh yeah, yeah. And previously air vent. Yeah, I think so.
Sam [00:05:24]:
Anyway, previously I filled it up with expanding foam because I thought anyway, the rat ate all of that.
Chris [00:05:29]:
Yeah, yeah. As they would eat its way through that.
Sam [00:05:31]:
So anyway, I went down there, the rat was gone. It’s not there anymore. So.
Chris [00:05:37]:
Houdini.
Sam [00:05:38]:
Houdini. So we thought, oh, maybe it’s gone back up the pipe. Anyway, in the meantime, I’m like, I’m gonna fill this pipe up. So rats do not like steel wool. So jammed it full of steel wool and then concrete. Just concreted it. Put concrete in there and then a cap on it. So pretty happy with that.
Sam [00:05:53]:
And that was all good. And then I thought I’ll just hit a trap just in case. And then the next day caught a rat, which I assume is the same one, I hope. But this time it fully got it. Anyway, good times.
Chris [00:06:06]:
Wonder how the misfire happened?
Sam [00:06:07]:
Well, we think the trap actually has two settings. It has a normal setting and then it’s got a sensitive setting. And I’m sure in the packaging when I got em like a year ago, whenever it said you change it from normal to sensitive to make sure you get everything, but I think it’s too sensitive. And they just touch it with their paw.
Chris [00:06:29]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:06:29]:
Claw. I don’t know what they’ve got. Anyway, then it goes off. But now this.
Chris [00:06:33]:
I bumped it and it went off. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, all right, that makes sense.
Sam [00:06:37]:
And then it was a trip to the library. Cause that’s where I get rid of them.
Chris [00:06:39]:
Do you? What?
Sam [00:06:40]:
Oh, there’s a. There’s two really big rubbish bins. Public rubbish bins in front of the library near my house and that. No, because other. Cause if it’s not rubbish day. Think about it. I know.
Chris [00:06:54]:
Don’t you put in the food scraps bin?
Sam [00:06:56]:
No, no. Or even the normal rubbish bin. Because even if it’s in a plastic bag, it’ll be sitting outside for up to six days. Oh, not even longer actually. Cause it’s every second week and I’m like, I gotta get rid of it now. So I go down to the library and there’s got these public rubbish bins that are full of random stuff and my dead rat in a plastic bag, like I just jam it in there. But they got really wide openings for the rubbish bin, so it’s easy to get it in there.
Chris [00:07:22]:
Okay, good, good, good work. Yeah.
Sam [00:07:25]:
Oh, I did see a movie this week though. I Final Destination, Bloodlines.
Chris [00:07:30]:
Oh, okay.
Sam [00:07:30]:
Have you seen the Final Destination movies?
Chris [00:07:32]:
No.
Sam [00:07:33]:
Ah, do you know the gist of the Final Destination?
Chris [00:07:35]:
Oh yeah, no, I have seen. I’ve seen the first one or two.
Sam [00:07:38]:
Okay, that means you’ve seen all of them.
Chris [00:07:40]:
Maybe just the first one.
Sam [00:07:41]:
Doesn’t matter. You’ve seen all of them. The. They just randomly kill people in creative ways. And the gist of it is if you escape death, death comes after you.
Chris [00:07:51]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:07:51]:
And in this one, a whole bunch of people escape death at the start and death is going after everybody basically through their family trees. They work that out and then they all just die randomly in great ways and very graphic ways.
Chris [00:08:09]:
So Adam recommended a movie to me. Yeah, Bring Her Back. I’m trying to remember because I didn’t write it down.
Sam [00:08:16]:
Okay.
Chris [00:08:17]:
And it was Bring Her Back and there was, there’s. And he was talking about the, the. It’s an Aussie group that did it and they got a lot of funding, a lot more funding for this one and they did another one before called Tell her about It, Tell Me about it or something like that. Talk to Me or something like that.
Sam [00:08:33]:
Okay.
Chris [00:08:34]:
But anyway, so I, I met up with Adam for. Oh, that’s interesting. Now I know that Mo at work loves the horror movies that Adam talks about.
Sam [00:08:43]:
Okay.
Chris [00:08:43]:
Okay, so it’s like. So you’re like straight on there. I’ve just had a recommendation for a film, this one, and it’s from these guys that did this one thinking, you know, maybe Mo would be interested. And Mo’s like, haha, I saw that last night, I don’t like it as much as the old one. And then Mel’s in there, who’s the uber Christian person network who goes, yeah, yeah, I’ve seen it as well. And I like the, like all these people know these movies that I don’t know. And I’m like, oh my God, there’s a lot of amazing. Yeah, anyway, that was pretty cool.
Sam [00:09:12]:
Philip who? Philip Howell. Brothers.
Chris [00:09:14]:
Yeah, Philip how Brothers?
Sam [00:09:15]:
Yeah. Anyway, Yep. Yeah, so that seven. That one Bring Her Back is out.
Chris [00:09:21]:
Now in the brandies now. So apparently it’s really good.
Sam [00:09:24]:
7.6 out of 10 on IMDb. Final Destination is just.
Chris [00:09:29]:
It’s a final destination.
Sam [00:09:30]:
Exactly. And then. Yeah. Right up until the last second.
Chris [00:09:34]:
Although I will have to say Adam was saying, I’ve got one recommendation, one anti recommendation.
Sam [00:09:40]:
Okay. It’s always interesting. Yeah, I love Adam’s recommendations. What’s the anti one?
Chris [00:09:46]:
The latest Mission Impossible. He just could not handle it.
Sam [00:09:49]:
Oh, really cool. I haven’t seen it, but when he.
Chris [00:09:52]:
Was like, he’s leaving because I think he went with his kids and family and he was like, what do you guys think? And I’m like, oh, it’s all right. It was absolutely terrible. So just from a story point of view, he just found it.
Sam [00:10:05]:
I haven’t seen it. I saw a story this morning though. Simon Pegg’s character with some other girl whose real life name is Pom. Their chemistry apparently really, really good in the film. Adam let us know if that’s true or not. And people are like, we want to see some sort of spin off or whatever those guys are up to when they’re not on this mission.
Chris [00:10:24]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:10:24]:
So I don’t know. Apparently they’re having fun with the press tour.
Chris [00:10:28]:
Yeah. Because I, I heard that it wasn’t a great film either. The story wise. He said the stunts were amazing, as you’d expect.
Sam [00:10:37]:
Yeah. And I think sometimes that’s, you know.
Chris [00:10:40]:
They had this cynical view is the whole movie is just an excuse for Tom Cruise to do those stunts.
Sam [00:10:45]:
Oh, I think, I think it, I think it is. You know, I think it is.
Chris [00:10:48]:
But I haven’t seen. Because I didn’t realize it was two parter because I hadn’t seen this one. Yeah, it’s the previous one, the one where he jumps the motorbike over a.
Sam [00:10:57]:
Cliff, which I can’t even. Oh, okay.
Chris [00:10:59]:
I’ve never seen it.
Sam [00:11:00]:
Oh no, I have seen that. I just can’t remember it.
Chris [00:11:02]:
Yeah. Well, this is apparently the second half to that two parter. Oh, right. And he goes, the, the other one was so good and this one’s so bad and that you couldn’t watch the two of them next to each other.
Sam [00:11:14]:
It’s just like that’s the problem with these big franchises and switching writers and all this sort of stuff.
Chris [00:11:19]:
I said, oh, do they switch writer, director? He goes, no, it’s the same one.
Sam [00:11:22]:
Oh, come on.
Chris [00:11:22]:
What?
Sam [00:11:23]:
Okay.
Chris [00:11:24]:
And he said, lot of it was shot for this one in the same time as the old one.
Sam [00:11:28]:
Oh, this is getting worse by the second. I know. Anyway.
Chris [00:11:30]:
Anyway, anyway, we’re getting. We’re getting carried away. I want to talk a little bit about this Ukraine thing.
Sam [00:11:35]:
Yeah, they’re going great.
Chris [00:11:36]:
Yeah. So it’s pretty impressive. I’ve been following a little bit of it. So you’re.
Sam [00:11:43]:
Chris is sitting on a Swiss ball at the moment, and it’s making the weirdest sound.
Chris [00:11:47]:
So if you’re rubbing against the leg of the slip.
Sam [00:11:51]:
There we go. If you can hear a weird sound, that’s what’s going on.
Chris [00:11:54]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:11:55]:
But yes. Drone attack.
Chris [00:11:56]:
Drone attack. So 18 months in the planning.
Sam [00:12:00]:
Yep.
Chris [00:12:00]:
They. They set up a warehouse in a Central Siberian town, and it’s like an old town. Like, somebody suggested it was like, Detroit. I don’t know what Detroit’s like. You know what I mean?
Sam [00:12:16]:
Old steel town.
Chris [00:12:16]:
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he says it’s the sort of town that if you got some cash, you can get anything you want. Some Semtex. You got American dollars? We’ll give you some Semtex. Because it’s so far away from the Ukrainian border, like time zones away from the Ukrainian border.
Sam [00:12:32]:
That’s what you want. Good.
Chris [00:12:33]:
So that’s where they built these drones and did them. Because I thought they built them in Ukraine and shipped them over, but no, they built them there. They were like 300 meters away from the local FSB, which is the security brewery, and they. They built them there. And they. They had a company set up that was mobile homes.
Sam [00:12:56]:
Yep. Okay.
Chris [00:12:57]:
And so that’s what the trucks were. That’s what these things were. They were in the rafters of a mobile home. They look like containers, but, you know.
Sam [00:13:04]:
Yeah, yeah.
Chris [00:13:05]:
And so they. They put all these drones in there, 117 drones. And they hired some random guys because.
Sam [00:13:12]:
They didn’t even know a. No, just drivers to go somewhere.
Chris [00:13:15]:
They just got a consignment. You trailer up, drop it off here.
Sam [00:13:18]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:13:19]:
And so they did that. And they’re all. All these truck drivers are old. 66 and 68. They hit four air bases. And these things are miles away from each other. The. The furthest one from Ukraine is further from.
Chris [00:13:37]:
A further distance from New York to LA.
Sam [00:13:39]:
Oh, wow.
Chris [00:13:40]:
Further than that away.
Sam [00:13:41]:
Okay.
Chris [00:13:41]:
Yeah. 2000.
Sam [00:13:42]:
And they’d move 500 kilometers. I think I saw something. They moved. Did they move some of their planes at some point?
Chris [00:13:47]:
Oh, yes, because they thought part of the operation. The overall planning of the operation is they sent all these missiles onto these different airplane airports so that they would pull them to these ones yes.
Sam [00:13:59]:
So they good, good forward thinking.
Chris [00:14:01]:
Yeah like no properly planned. And then, and then on the day and this is again these bases are covering several time zones.
Sam [00:14:10]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:14:10]:
They go right attack and the, the, the lids drop off these things and the drones go out and just blew up 40 odd planes. 41 is what they say now. They, they destroyed I think 20 ish 17 to 20 and the other ones are out of commission. But some of that is the part of the nuclear triad. It’s some of the nuclear carrying air support for them.
Sam [00:14:37]:
And they took out the big ass command one.
Chris [00:14:39]:
Yeah, they took two, two of those out. So they had.
Sam [00:14:42]:
Which can’t be replaced.
Chris [00:14:44]:
No, they can’t make, they don’t make them anymore. And the parts, the parts of the parts that were made in Soviet Russia are now in places like Ukraine that not part of Russia anymore as well. So they can’t get the parts anymore.
Sam [00:14:57]:
Far out.
Chris [00:14:58]:
So they had eight at the beginning. They already destroyed two and they destroyed two more. So they, the half halved their, their thing. And when you’re talking about these sorts of military vehicles you can’t fly them all at once anyway because they always break down. So yeah, if you’ve got four left you probably only got two that are in the air at any.
Sam [00:15:20]:
Yeah. And maintenance and crews and whatever else.
Chris [00:15:22]:
That sort of stuff. So anyway and with the bombers it’s going to totally reduce the amount of capacity they have to do these things. But there’s a couple of other things that people didn’t realize. At the same time they bombed, they did a similar operation at the same part of the same operation. They bombed a submarine.
Sam [00:15:39]:
Oh, I didn’t know that.
Chris [00:15:40]:
Yeah, it was blocked. Okay.
Sam [00:15:43]:
And with drones or something else.
Chris [00:15:45]:
With drones as well.
Sam [00:15:45]:
Flying drones.
Chris [00:15:46]:
I think it was flying drones as well. I think it was part of the operation Spider Web and they, I mean they haven’t destroyed the sub but they’ve damaged it quite a bit. And you can’t like get a damaged sub and send it out like.
Sam [00:16:00]:
No, no, you can’t do anything.
Chris [00:16:02]:
You have to fix it and it will be months to fix it. So. And that’s a nuclear sub. So you know that’s a few, maybe a hundred thousand dollars worth of drones have done billions of dollars worth of damage.
Sam [00:16:15]:
I heard that they, the drones probably had AI to help identify the best spot to attack or something or is that just pre programmed? I’m not sure.
Chris [00:16:23]:
They had some AI and they did some training with the drones and AI on a museum with the same aircraft really?
Sam [00:16:30]:
It’s also.
Chris [00:16:31]:
They recognized it.
Sam [00:16:32]:
Like, what are you guys doing here at the museum? Oh, we just want to have a look.
Chris [00:16:35]:
Yeah. Think it was Ukrainian museum. Yeah.
Sam [00:16:38]:
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Chris [00:16:38]:
Outside of the, Outside of Russia.
Sam [00:16:40]:
That’s my Ukrainian accent. Could you not tell?
Chris [00:16:43]:
But what happened was they did have. So the drones would take off and I think they didn’t all take off at once.
Sam [00:16:51]:
They took stag at them just in case, I guess.
Chris [00:16:53]:
And they, they would go to the air airport on AI and find their place and do a run and then an operator would jump in and do the final.
Sam [00:17:03]:
All right.
Chris [00:17:04]:
I believe, because they use the Russian. They all had SIM cards in the drones and they use the Russian telephone system to attack the Russian. Oh, it was, it was, it’s an amazing, it’s an amazing accomplishment. And then of course they, they set a charge off at the bottom of the curse Kerch bridge.
Sam [00:17:26]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:17:27]:
Which unfortunately hasn’t done a huge amount of damage. The Russians have said, oh no, it’s still good to go. And they’re still using it. Hopefully it just falls over, but.
Sam [00:17:36]:
So I wonder like what else is being planned or being worked on?
Chris [00:17:40]:
Things are going through and yeah, things are, are still being.
Sam [00:17:44]:
You imagine sitting there and you’re like, okay, what can we do? Like, like blank slate.
Chris [00:17:49]:
You’re like, you can’t do that again.
Sam [00:17:51]:
No, no, you can’t.
Chris [00:17:52]:
That’s fine. Because. Oh. Because the next three days there’s been these huge fricking traffic jams everywhere because they’re searching every truck going everywhere.
Sam [00:18:02]:
Exactly.
Chris [00:18:03]:
So it’s just wasting manpower and it’s, it’s just. Oh, it’s just glorious. So very good. Brilliant.
Sam [00:18:10]:
Yeah, that’s very interesting. Talking about nuclear, there’s a very good article, but it’s behind a stupid stuff CO NZ paywall and I can’t get around it, but somehow I could read it on my phone this morning. So I don’t know how it works. I thought it was written pretty well. So there’s a 32 year old guy in Wellington, runs a car, a company called Openstar. His name’s Ratu Ma Taira and he’s got 55 employees and he’s working on a inside out nuclear fusion solution.
Chris [00:18:45]:
What does the inside out mean?
Sam [00:18:47]:
Well, apparently there’s different ways of approaching nuclear fusion and everybody does it in a specific way, but this guy’s like, nah, we’re going to do it the other way, which is with magnets and this floating donut thing inside this giant sphere. So it inverts the conventional tokamak reactor. So instead of containing plasma within magnets, it’s got a levitating magnet within the plasma. So it inspired by planetary magnetic fields, it says. Now this story is from November from Radio New Zealand. But basically it’s easier and faster engineering compared to the traditional way. Rapid iteration and it’s a very less complex design. In November they’d raised about 20 million New Zealand dollars and they need more funding.
Sam [00:19:35]:
And there’s like four stages. So there’s this initial one and then there’s two other ones and then there’s the actual working reactor. But they’ve done. Where is it here? Oh, it might be in the other article. They’ve actually created plasma from it. Like they’ve done what they wanted to do. So yeah, that’s cool.
Chris [00:19:56]:
I mean we’ve got to, we’ve got to sort out the energy thing and that’s a good way to do it. I still, I still have high hopes for thorium reactors. So thorium reactors were something that the Americans gave up on in the 60s because they just stupid. And the Chinese have, well, a number of countries to be fair. I think we talked about one of the Sweden guys doing the thorium reactors, but China’s actually got one going now, all right. And it’s working quite well. And so instead it doesn’t have the rods and things. And the water, it doesn’t need the water.
Chris [00:20:32]:
It uses a liquid sodium. It’s salt. Oh, right. Going through the. The biggest concern with it really is that, you know, it rusts the hell out of pipes.
Sam [00:20:41]:
Oh, okay. Yeah, that’s right.
Chris [00:20:43]:
Over time. But you can just turn it off and it’ll cool down sort of thing.
Sam [00:20:49]:
This one uses hydrogen and they were talking in the article that I can’t link to or view anymore, they were talking to an expert in Auckland who teaches I think at Auckland Uni and he was like, yep, this is totally viable. Super, super hard to do, but if anyone’s gonna do it, might as well be a Kiwi.
Chris [00:21:06]:
Yeah, yeah. And that’s the bigger issue is that old reactors all use plutonium and it was 238 or whatever it was that had to use. And thorium’s very plentiful, plutonium isn’t and hydrogen obviously is just everywhere. So. Yeah, cool, that’s. That’s good. I hadn’t heard of that.
Sam [00:21:26]:
Have you heard of builder AI?
Chris [00:21:30]:
No.
Sam [00:21:30]:
It’s a London based AI app building company and they raised fund. $455 million from Microsoft is an investment that’s pretty decent, eh? Anyway, it turns out their neural network was actually just 700 Indians. It came to the. It’s just come to light now in May, and they basically went bankrupt because they revealed that, yeah, AI wasn’t really doing much. It was sort of just doing a little tiny bit of planning or something, and they were just like, got the Indian.
Chris [00:22:08]:
It’s a mechanical turk.
Sam [00:22:10]:
Yeah, that’s exactly it. But that’s what Amazon got caught out on with that shopping thing. You know when you walked into a store and they.
Chris [00:22:17]:
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sam [00:22:18]:
It was just a bunch of people watching cameras and stuff.
Chris [00:22:20]:
Yeah, yeah. That was stupid. So stupid. Actually, I’ve got Trump vent here because people have been moaning that I haven’t talked about Trump for a while.
Sam [00:22:29]:
I’m sure they have. So it’s yourself, isn’t it? What? Go. What?
Chris [00:22:32]:
There’s just a couple of things. I just been driving me nuts. There’s been so much. To be honest, there’s been so much going on that I’m just like, I don’t want to talk about it, but I’m going to talk about this because this is hilarious. How many people do you think are in Trump’s government, or cabinet government, whatever you want to call it, from that used to work at Fox News?
Sam [00:22:54]:
I don’t know. I’m going to say 1023. And so these people obviously have varied backgrounds, but at the base level, they were news journalists. Most of them. Were they all on tv?
Chris [00:23:08]:
They’re all. All on tv. Yeah, all of them were on tv. I don’t think there was any behind the scenes. I think they’re all actual hosts to some degree or another. Okay, so. Cause Pierrot, the Janine Pirro. Have you ever heard of her? Judge Janine? Okay, I think Judge Janine.
Chris [00:23:25]:
And she does. So she’s been made District Attorney General for Washington or something like that, like. Because she’s a judge. She was a judge once, you know. And the Hegseth guy we’ve talked about before, he was in the army once, so he’s the Secretary of Defense.
Sam [00:23:42]:
Collins just met him.
Chris [00:23:42]:
Oh, my God.
Sam [00:23:43]:
Judith Collins just met him.
Chris [00:23:45]:
Oh, really?
Sam [00:23:45]:
Yes. And I think she said something like, he had heard of me. Who cares? Good. Flex. And your husband’s Sam Owen. Let’s not forget that.
Chris [00:23:53]:
But building on that, Tulsi Gabbard, who I think. I don’t know where she was Fox. She was. She’s a nut job. Anyway, she’s the dni, the Director of National Intelligence. So she runs all the yeah, like she runs the CIA overseas. The CIA, nsa. She’s the, the one in top.
Chris [00:24:14]:
Yeah, all of those. Right. She said, oh, we’ve got a big problem with the President Trump.
Sam [00:24:19]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:24:20]:
He doesn’t read his presidential briefs.
Sam [00:24:23]:
What a surprise.
Chris [00:24:24]:
Right? So. And I saw a graphic. I haven’t written it down, but I saw one the other day. And in the first hundred days, Obama had read 63 of these. Biden had done 90. In the first Trump president, he’d done 50. And in this one he’s done 15.
Sam [00:24:45]:
Yeah, he’s just checking out. He doesn’t care.
Chris [00:24:47]:
He doesn’t care. So anyway, she goes, what we’re going to do is we’re going to present it differently. So she suggested hiring Fox News producers and a personality to deliver a daily PDB as a short news like thing with graphics and a video game like bomb explosions, et cetera. Because the president doesn’t read.
Sam [00:25:08]:
I mean, yeah, I guess if it works, it’ll be stupid as. But, you know, if. I don’t know.
Chris [00:25:14]:
But then it saves so much money. That’s all about saving money. I’m sure Doge would be all over that.
Sam [00:25:21]:
No, he got kicked out.
Chris [00:25:22]:
I know. Yeah. And then this other thing, I. Have you heard about this? You must have. By now, Trump’s jumped the shark, posting that Biden was executed.
Sam [00:25:33]:
Oh, yeah, he’s a robot. He’s a cloned robot.
Chris [00:25:36]:
So he was executed in 2020 and he’s a cloned robot, which we all know clones and robots are different things. You can’t have a cloned robot.
Sam [00:25:45]:
Also, what’s the argument? You’ve got the. You’ve done. You’ve gone through all this effort of executing someone, making a clone robot, whatever that is, and they’re like old and decrepit and they fall upstairs.
Chris [00:25:57]:
It made them worse than he was. Why would you do that?
Sam [00:26:01]:
What’s the point?
Chris [00:26:02]:
Yeah, so. So all of that. And I mean, so they’re going, oh, they should have done the 25th Amendment on, on. On Biden because. Because this new book come out, Original Sin by Jake Tepper, which cnn, by the way, is going down in the polls, down in the viewer ratings, because they’ve just been pushing the book so hard and firing on them and it’s all about Joe Biden being stupid and they’re like, hang on, but Trump’s doing all this.
Sam [00:26:30]:
I know, it’s crazy.
Chris [00:26:31]:
So anyway, yeah, so that’s my, that’s my Trump rant. Rant over.
Sam [00:26:35]:
I saw a clip. I can’t remember on what YouTube thing? It popped up. But they had the. Who’s the. He’s not the head of the FBI, but he’s got something to. With the FBI. Cash Patel is that the guy has his own. Had his own show and he’s like a podcaster.
Chris [00:26:49]:
Yeah, yeah, no, there’s two. There’s. He was one and the other one was Don Bongino.
Sam [00:26:55]:
Okay. So anyway, they show clips of him doing his weird podcast show thing and then they had a clip of him on. On tv and he was basically complaining because he has to work so hard now and he’s always in the office.
Chris [00:27:07]:
But then Bongino.
Sam [00:27:08]:
Okay, and then the other guy is there earlier and later and he’s just like, I just don’t know. And they’re like, you’re an idiot.
Chris [00:27:13]:
And they’re like, yeah, that’s called a job.
Sam [00:27:16]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:27:17]:
I’m there from morning to night and all I’m looking at is four walls.
Sam [00:27:21]:
That’s right.
Chris [00:27:22]:
Yeah. It’s a job. It’s not a job. I’ve got to put up with my boss, which is the other dude I was talking about. Yeah. There’s this interview with Keshe Patel on Fox because he’s an Indian dude or whatever and he’s facing Brett Bear, who’s a host and interviewing him. And they’re on stools. And it’s the funniest thing because it looks like one of those Lord of the Rings distortion things because he must be really small because he’s sitting in this chair and his feet aren’t even reaching the crossbar of big polite.
Chris [00:28:01]:
Oh, he looks like a hobbit. And the other guy looks normal sized. And it’s like, it’s cracking me up. I have to find the photo show. You just made me laugh so much.
Sam [00:28:11]:
Well, that brings us to the end of the podcast that went really quick for us. Just so much good stuff. Next episode, we will have our episode from field days. And a short time after that we will have the field Field Days interviews up on the website. If you’re going along, come say hi. We’re going to be there on the Thursday. I don’t know what else. If there’s somebody you think we should talk to, let us know.
Sam [00:28:34]:
Yeah, if you.
Chris [00:28:35]:
Absolutely. If you know of somebody who’s got a stall there or going to be there or whatever. Particularly if they’re going to be there on Thursday. Yeah, let us know. Drop us a line on the Facebook.
Sam [00:28:44]:
Yeah, yeah.
Chris [00:28:45]:
And we’ll. We’ll see if we can hook up.
Sam [00:28:48]:
If you’re wondering what Field Days is, I’m not sure how many of our listeners actually go or even know. It’s the largest agricultural event in the Southern hemisphere. It’s huge. And somehow, like I said at the start, they let us in. So thank you to Field Days for that, and until next time. I’m Sam.
Chris [00:29:03]:
I’m Chris.
Sam [00:29:04]:
See ya. Bye.
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