Summary
Chris and Sam are back in the studio after some remote recording and illness, diving into everything from scams and AI deepfakes to the unusual world of remote work—from prison!
Share what happens when a coffee truck leans a little too hard into its graveyard branding. Plus, there’s a wild story about cough syrup gone wrong, squirrel hunting mishaps, and a graphic novel Kickstarter smashing records.
Links
Coffee Truck Banned from Hospital
Entrepreneur Ripped off JP Morgan
SORA 2 upgraded
Jail working from “home”
Youth just need to go get a job
Cough Medicine Problem
Mistaken for Squirrel
Dungeon Crawler Carl Crowdfunding
Show Transcript
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Sam [00:00:22]:
Hello and welcome to episode 552 of the Chris and Sam podcast.
Chris [00:00:26]:
I’m Chris.
Sam [00:00:27]:
And I’m Sam. Welcome along to your weekly fix. Hey. Ah. Of us. And some other bits and pieces. Hey.
Chris [00:00:34]:
Fix of us.
Sam [00:00:35]:
I will say though, I think we recorded this exactly a week ago today.
Chris [00:00:39]:
Eh.
Sam [00:00:39]:
Must have been.
Chris [00:00:40]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:00:41]:
It feels like such a long time. I know. We did do it remotely last time, so that’s what it was.
Chris [00:00:47]:
I think that’s true as well. Yeah. Yeah. You haven’t been here for a couple of weeks. Because I’ve felt sick and I don’t want to get.
Sam [00:00:52]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:00:52]:
Make use.
Sam [00:00:53]:
But I don’t know what’s happening. I think I. I’ve got to the point of excessive busy.
Chris [00:00:59]:
That. Yeah, tell me about it, bro.
Sam [00:01:02]:
It’s crazy.
Chris [00:01:03]:
Although I got some good news. I got relieved. I’m not doing the cinema in proviso on the 31st.
Sam [00:01:13]:
So they just postponed it.
Chris [00:01:14]:
They postponed it?
Sam [00:01:15]:
You’re still doing it?
Chris [00:01:16]:
Yeah. If. If it goes ahead. It’s been postponed, but not a definitive date, so that’s cool.
Sam [00:01:23]:
We better start off with something good. Shout out to Lister. Liam.
Chris [00:01:26]:
Yes.
Sam [00:01:26]:
Has a new son. I have no idea what it’s called.
Chris [00:01:30]:
Jensen David.
Sam [00:01:31]:
Excellent. Oh yeah. Went with the old Jensen Ackles type name. Whatever his name is.
Chris [00:01:36]:
I don’t know who that is. It’s funny because it’s Jensen David. Liam Jensen. David Hanlon.
Sam [00:01:45]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:01:46]:
I used to know a David Jensen.
Sam [00:01:48]:
Oh, wow.
Chris [00:01:49]:
Which is just weird. No.
Sam [00:01:50]:
Jensen Eccles or whatever his name is, is the guy that. In the boys TV show that they defrosted from back in the day and they fight him. Is it soldier boy?
Chris [00:02:00]:
Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Sam [00:02:01]:
That’s that actor’s name.
Chris [00:02:03]:
Okay. I hadn’t heard it as a first name before.
Sam [00:02:06]:
I was like, that’s the only person I’ve ever heard of. So. Congratulations, Liam.
Chris [00:02:10]:
Congrats, Liam. And Rachel.
Sam [00:02:12]:
And of course Rachel. Without her, Liam, I don’t know what you’d be doing.
Chris [00:02:19]:
No, nobody does. Cool. But. Yeah. What else have you. And we had. No, that’s. That’s basically I.
Chris [00:02:27]:
I was on the radio station this morning. The only thing I was going to mention because he goes, oh, do you want to put. You don’t have to put the headphones on. But you. You can if you want. Ah, yeah. I’m. I’m used to it, bro.
Chris [00:02:40]:
I’m a pro. That was the first Time I’ve ever been in a radio station. I’ve been on the radio a few times, but always been from a phone. Like they’ve rung me and yeah, I’ve been.
Sam [00:02:50]:
I’ve been to Free fm. That’s where you spoke today. I think I’ve been there twice before and I’ve done the Breeze maybe three times.
Chris [00:02:58]:
Yeah, I know you’ve talked about the Breeze before as well. Yeah, yeah.
Sam [00:03:01]:
It’s not too. Some. It’s not much different to the room we’re sitting in with random stuff everywhere and a table. They just, you know, usually be. They’re in a bigger building and they’ve.
Chris [00:03:12]:
Got better stands for their mics.
Sam [00:03:15]:
Yes, that’s probably the big thing.
Chris [00:03:17]:
It’s about the only thing that I could tell.
Sam [00:03:19]:
Yeah, I know. Apart from that’s pretty simple way, but that’s pretty cool.
Chris [00:03:22]:
Yeah, no, it’s good.
Sam [00:03:23]:
So you were talking about misty flicks and making sure people knew about it.
Chris [00:03:27]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:03:28]:
You can still buy a Misty flicks pass or a whatever the other one’s called.
Chris [00:03:34]:
So there’s the festival pass, which is really good if you are a filmmaker. If you’re just a movie lover. We have the movie lover pass. Or the movie, I think it’s called Movie lover Pass.
Sam [00:03:44]:
No, movie, film, Misty flicks. Film pass.
Chris [00:03:48]:
Film pass, whatever. And yeah, so that’s gets you into every film session. Film session.
Sam [00:03:53]:
And then if you only want to go see a single session, then you can buy that.
Chris [00:03:58]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:03:59]:
On the Regent website we’ve got, we’ve got, we’ve still got tickets left.
Chris [00:04:04]:
Yeah. But definitely, definitely worth getting in there and grabbing some of those. So. And you’ll get to see us as well.
Sam [00:04:10]:
Sure is. When you have a bit of extra money. $175 million.
Chris [00:04:18]:
Oh yeah, when I do, I will let you know.
Sam [00:04:21]:
You can buy some movie tickets. This 28 year old French entrepreneur called Charlie Javiss, and it’s a female, she got seven.
Chris [00:04:31]:
Charlie.
Sam [00:04:32]:
Yeah, Charlie. She got sentenced to seven years in prison and she’s got to pay back $287 million for defrauding JP Morgan Chase out of $175 million in the acquisition of her startup, which is called Frank. So she was a former fintech entrepreneur, once Featured in Forbes 30 under 30. Apparently that’s important. And yeah, she fabricated a database of 4 million users when in fact they only had 300,000. There was fake data like phone numbers, home addresses, emails, Social Security numbers, dates of birth and personal financial data. And with that she was able to say, we’ve got a big database by my company.
Chris [00:05:15]:
How did you think they wouldn’t notice? Like, you know, particularly after you’ve sold the company, you’d be like leaving the country like immediately, wouldn’t you?
Sam [00:05:28]:
I was just gonna say your plan would have to be leave the country and never come back. That’s.
Chris [00:05:33]:
Never go to anywhere that has a, what do you call it, extradition treaty with France. Oh yeah, like, yeah, like, yeah, I, I’ll be living in Russia for the rest of my life.
Sam [00:05:44]:
Cool. Yeah. So defense wanted 18 months, prosecution wanted 12 years. And she finally got seven years. They said that she could remain free during appeals, which could potentially be over one year.
Chris [00:05:57]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:05:57]:
Because of her infertility struggles and desire to start a family. That’s sort of why they went a bit lenient on it and she got some letters of support. It’s all a bit crazy. So anyway, I’m not a big fan.
Chris [00:06:09]:
Of these female entrepreneurs ripping everybody off and then everybody going, oh, but we’ll let you have a baby. Because that’s what happened with the. What’s her name? The Steve Jobs look alike. Yeah, yeah, her, whatever her name is.
Sam [00:06:24]:
Take the blood test and we can tell you everything that’s wrong with you.
Chris [00:06:26]:
Yeah, that one, like they did the same with that. I’m like, no, you’ve given up your frickin opportunity to have kids by being a douchebag.
Sam [00:06:35]:
We could, but on the like, the New Zealand equivalent of that, if you don’t know, is if we have a semi famous musician or semi famous sports star, they can just get away with whatever they want. Yeah, but a name, a bit of name suppression in the mix. You’re all good.
Chris [00:06:50]:
Oh, I got this interesting piece of spam. I’m just gonna read this out for you. So it was from Yennefer Natalia Navaez Cabrera.
Sam [00:07:00]:
Okay.
Chris [00:07:01]:
Yeah. And her email address is illuminati.headquarter066mail.com.
Sam [00:07:11]:
Yes.
Chris [00:07:12]:
And it says. Greetings. You’ve been identified as someone with rare potential. Based on our internal selection, the Illuminati Council sees you as a strong candidate to initiate.
Sam [00:07:24]:
How much money have you given them?
Chris [00:07:26]:
If accepted, you will receive $1 million. See, I won’t have to give them. They’re going to give me a million dollars. To begin your journey towards wealth, power and higher influence. Do you accept to proceed with us?
Sam [00:07:40]:
Oh my gosh.
Chris [00:07:43]:
I saw that this morning. All right, I’m clipping that. I would copy and paste that into share that because that cracked me Up.
Sam [00:07:52]:
That’s. Yeah. Excellent. I’ve lost my train of thought.
Chris [00:07:57]:
Yennefer just blew your. Blew your mind.
Sam [00:08:00]:
Yeah, sure did. Sure did. Oh, so there’s been an Upgrade on the AI video platform recently. A Sora S O R A Sora 2. And there’s all these batshit videos coming out and it’s upsetting a lot of people. So one of those people is Robin Williams daughter Zelda.
Chris [00:08:22]:
Okay.
Sam [00:08:23]:
And she said, stop sending me AI videos of my dad. It’s gross. Not what he wants and it’s creeping me out. I saw a video the other day. Michael Jackson working in supermarket. Very realistic.
Chris [00:08:33]:
Yeah. Why would you send somebody, anybody like, I don’t care who. An AI of their dead father, husband, what, you know, like, loved one like that. That. Why would you do that? That’s just.
Sam [00:08:50]:
Yeah. So she said stop believing I want to see it. Or that I’ll understand. I don’t and I won’t if you’re just trying to troll me. I’ve seen way worse. Yeah. I’ll just move on. Like I’ll.
Sam [00:09:02]:
I’ll block you and move on. But this is a problem now. There was a video that somebody made on Sora 2 and it was an influencer talking about a yogurt and honestly could not tell it wasn’t real. It looked so good.
Chris [00:09:21]:
It’s so such a worry. I haven’t played with any of that stuff yet. No, no, it will be interesting. I’ve got a more random thing here. I just thought this was interesting because it’s. A local coffee truck was banned from the Scottsdale Hospital due to the name of the truck or the. You know how they name their truck and it was called Graveyard shift Coffee.
Sam [00:09:46]:
Okay.
Chris [00:09:46]:
Because they. They go to all the ers and stuff like that.
Sam [00:09:52]:
Yep. Okay.
Chris [00:09:53]:
And they. The menu has things a bit further. It takes a bit further. Like they have drink names include the Bloody Eye with chocolate and strawberry, the formaldehyde with lavender and honey, but the Murder Spice with honey and cinnamon. And you know, it’s got a little bit of a morbid thing that people in ER and actually all rescue services I would suggest have quite morbid senses of humor.
Sam [00:10:18]:
Yeah. More so than a normal person, I think.
Chris [00:10:20]:
So. Yeah.
Sam [00:10:20]:
That’s good marketing.
Chris [00:10:21]:
Yeah. Anyway, so. But the hospital went, oh, we don’t want you parking outside our hospital. It’s bad for business. And stop them from coming along. And all, all the workers that really paid because they actually, they were really popular.
Sam [00:10:34]:
So I’m trying to think of a conversation we had it must have been at work maybe. And it was. I wish I knew what it was. It was very similar to that. And I said to somebody, these people need to lean into their name.
Chris [00:10:49]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:10:50]:
And they haven’t. And they’ve got this real weird name. But not anything else. Because apart from that there’s nothing to differentiate.
Chris [00:10:58]:
Yeah. Coffee is coffee is coffee. So you grab something and you just lean right in. And they’ve leaned in with all the names of the drinks and all that sort of thing. That’s what you want to see. I got another one here. I thought this was interesting. What’s your take on remote work? What do you think of remote work in general?
Sam [00:11:20]:
I think that the return to office that a lot of people want is more of a micromanager type of thing. And remote working works for a lot of people. And there are results. There’s always people that are trying to scan the system.
Chris [00:11:34]:
Yeah, but there’s people that scan the system when they turn up at work. Yeah.
Sam [00:11:39]:
And just sit there and do nothing.
Chris [00:11:41]:
Yeah, exactly. And you see them just on Facebook all day, so. Exactly. Obviously, I’m a big proponent of remote work. Cause that’s what I do. I work from home. But these guys are real proponents of it that I’m going to talk about here. I, uh.
Chris [00:11:56]:
Cause. Well, basically because they’re incarcerated. Oh, this is in the states and this is in Maine.
Sam [00:12:02]:
Okay.
Chris [00:12:03]:
Hey, but wouldn’t that in Maine prisoners. This is the heading in Maine, prisoners are thriving in remote jobs and other states are taking notice. So isn’t this a great idea? I think it is.
Sam [00:12:15]:
Hang on. So I’m going to say that I think it’s good because they learn a new skill set. They get to work remotely so they’re not endangering anyone if they’re that way inclined.
Chris [00:12:29]:
Yep.
Sam [00:12:30]:
They’re probably not getting paid at all.
Chris [00:12:32]:
Well, they are actually, but I’ll go into that for a second.
Sam [00:12:35]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:12:35]:
Okay. Okay.
Sam [00:12:36]:
I’m keen.
Chris [00:12:36]:
Because it said people who are incarcerated paid notoriously low wages for kitchen, laundry work and maintenance.
Sam [00:12:43]:
Yeah, yeah, totally.
Chris [00:12:44]:
But the expanded use of laptops is creating other opportunities. So Preston thought is only 32, but he’s already landed his dream job as a senior software engineer. And he’s bought a modest house with his six figure salary.
Sam [00:12:58]:
And he’s in prison.
Chris [00:12:58]:
And he’s in prison. Good on him. It was all accomplished by putting in long days from a cell at the Mountain View Correctional Centre in Charleston. It’s not normal to have 15 to 17 hours a day to really Focus on something and learn something, like deeply. He said, fortunately, tech is one of the few areas where they’re not concerned with your college degree, but they’re only concerned with your ability to write code.
Sam [00:13:22]:
Yeah, exactly.
Chris [00:13:23]:
And so he’s a computer geek.
Sam [00:13:26]:
But if they do get released from prison, this is a job that can just transfer.
Chris [00:13:30]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:13:31]:
Like they could go find another job remotely. They don’t have to go to fast food or supermarket.
Chris [00:13:36]:
Yeah. So he got in trouble. He ended up in prison for the first time at age 20. I don’t know how old he. I think it said he was 29 now or something. You know, I was worried and pretty hopeful, hopeless that I’d messed my life up so bad. There was no longer possible to have a normal life and career. When you’ve got nothing to lose, it’s pretty easy to behave that way.
Chris [00:13:53]:
And when you’re out of prison with a criminal record, no money and identity as a convict, he says it’s, it’s. The likelihood is you. You’re screwed, basically. Yeah. It’s not his words, but.
Sam [00:14:04]:
Yeah, there’s a story about an kiwi guy that came out yesterday because. Oh, no, you carry on and then I’ll. I’ll carry on.
Chris [00:14:11]:
Well, yeah, there was a bit of an interview here. We’ll have a link to the thing in the show notes and it’s worth having a read because the people that hired him said, oh, he’s incarcerated. Well, maybe he can’t do the job. But they were, the, the prison was really helpful. Like, that’s the key.
Sam [00:14:31]:
That’s the key. Because I think, I mean, if they had any brains that somehow work it out where they go, yeah, you can earn whatever you want, but we’re going to take a percentage.
Chris [00:14:40]:
Yeah, that’s one of the.
Sam [00:14:42]:
Okay, yeah.
Chris [00:14:43]:
So anyway, yeah, we’ll put that link in the thing. I think it’s a great idea. I think it’s brilliant. I mean, if they were convicted of computer frauding crimes using a computer, that would be a different thing, obviously. But, you know, and, and it’s. Yeah, there’s got to be some sort of check, I guess.
Sam [00:15:03]:
There’s a lot of stories coming out currently about finding work. Our illustrious leader, Potato Head Luxon, he has, he has stated that they are getting rid of the youth benefit or worker, whatever the hell it is. And if your parents earn over $65,000, you just got to go find a job. He goes, tough luck. Just go find a job. You can just go find a job. Like it’s. That simple, just go find a job.
Sam [00:15:30]:
And they’re talking to all these different industries and people, and they’re like, there really isn’t that many jobs out there. Or you’ve got a lot of people applying for them. And one of the stories they had a couple of days ago, very similar to what you were saying. This guy did something dumb in his 20s. I think he stole a car or held someone up or something like that. He’s done 5,000 job applications in the last two years and had five interviews. And as soon as I do that background check, he can’t do anything according to the story. Yeah, sure, there’s other bits and pieces.
Chris [00:16:05]:
But, yeah, I mean, I, I, I want to say that if you can be good enough at something, none of this would matter. Like, if you can. But that’s not a good answer for everybody.
Sam [00:16:21]:
No, it’s not a good answer for everybody. But it is interesting. Like, I mean, a couple of things. Like, if you lost your job tomorrow, what would you do? Or if you found yourself incarcerated in prison, what would you do? Because you got so much more time on your hands as a thought experiment.
Chris [00:16:37]:
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Sam [00:16:39]:
Yeah. And it is definitely because you, you’ve.
Chris [00:16:41]:
Had this recently, really, with the big career switch.
Sam [00:16:45]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:16:45]:
It was sort of forced on you to some degree because there were internal changes, but I think you were heading in that direction.
Sam [00:16:52]:
Yeah, yeah, I was. I was. And yeah, so I’ve learned, picked up new skills and stuff.
Chris [00:16:57]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:16:57]:
And, yeah, it’s always interesting, but I think it is tough out there for job seekers. I think I was just lucky. I don’t know.
Chris [00:17:05]:
Yeah, yeah. 100%. I think you got to get into something and go deep on it, but you may not be able to find it. You may, it might find you because what you’re doing now was not your, it wasn’t on your dream list. It wasn’t on your dream board. No, no, no.
Sam [00:17:22]:
But that’s, and that’s the thing. When I talk to people, like, I don’t have or still don’t have a vision of what the hell I should be doing, I think you can pick me up and drop me somewhere, and I can just do that. And I don’t know if that’s a good thing or a bad thing, but.
Chris [00:17:37]:
Yeah, yeah, I’m very similar to that. I keep joking with when I get interviewed with epic. So we often have somebody come in, clients, and ask us, oh, what do you do? And I’m the finisher. I get dropped into the end of the project to finish off the project. And that’s literally been my job for the last two, three years. Yeah. Is they start the project, they get it all going, it’s all getting up. And then they drop me in to tie it off and, and finish everything up and keep everybody happy.
Chris [00:18:07]:
And while they’re going on to the next thing and. And I’m like, is this a good thing? And. And my boss is like, no, it’s great because just the fact that I can jump in, figure it all out and just do it without any upskilling is cool. So that’s pretty good.
Sam [00:18:25]:
Hey, that. That Turkish guy, the shadow.
Chris [00:18:29]:
Oh, yeah, the one handed in the pocket. I think I saw something about that.
Sam [00:18:32]:
Oh, he did it again at the world champs.
Chris [00:18:34]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:18:34]:
He is so casual. The other guy, I think was up against the Germans. Got the eye coverings and the hat and all the random gear and stuff. And this guy’s just got a gun. He’s so cool.
Chris [00:18:47]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:18:47]:
And he’s. And he’s still. And he’s still performing at a high level. Like he didn’t fluke it.
Chris [00:18:51]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:18:52]:
Or anything like that. So that’s cool.
Chris [00:18:54]:
I thought this was hilarious. Well, I don’t know. Hilarious maybe overstating it, but actually I’ll just, I’ll just read the head headline. That might be enough. Cough syrup kills two children. Oh, yeah. Maybe that’s not hilarious. In Rajasthan somewhere.
Sam [00:19:11]:
Okay.
Chris [00:19:12]:
The doctor goes, no, this should be fine. And so he dropped the face.
Sam [00:19:17]:
He didn’t die.
Chris [00:19:18]:
He didn’t die. Pretty close apparently, but yeah. So what’s wrong with it? The generic cough sick syrup manufacturer.
Sam [00:19:28]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:19:28]:
Led to the deaths of two children and at least 10 others falling ill in the state in the past two weeks. A doctor who took a dose of the syrup to demonstrate that it was safe was also knocked unconscious and found in his car eight hours later. Like he got to the car park and he fell asleep in the car. Luckily he wasn’t driving when he fell asleep.
Sam [00:19:47]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:19:48]:
The dangers of some batches of the cough syrup which contains the compound dextrome, methorphin hydrobromide.
Sam [00:19:57]:
Of course.
Chris [00:19:57]:
Of course. Yeah. So, yeah, that, yeah. It just cracked me up that he goes, oh, no, it’s fine. And I. I remember reading somewhere further on this. Some, somebody else said, oh, I’ll take it too. And he did with the doctor.
Chris [00:20:12]:
He managed to get home before he crashed out and was stuffed as well. But yeah, the two year, two year old, like your parents, that would be just appalling. You give your 2 year old a Cough syrup and just die. That’s horrible. Anyway, okay, maybe that wasn’t so funny.
Sam [00:20:30]:
That’s not. No, no, you leave. You always leave with this random funny thing and it’s not quite funny.
Chris [00:20:38]:
Okay, I’ve got another one just along the sides.
Sam [00:20:43]:
Stop laughing so much.
Chris [00:20:45]:
I shouldn’t laugh because somebody died.
Sam [00:20:48]:
Okay, what’d they do?
Chris [00:20:50]:
Oh, it’s an Iowa teen. He’s. He. He. Him and his mates are out squirrel hunting with guns. And then, yeah, his mate shot him in the back of the head because he thought his head was squirrel.
Sam [00:21:05]:
How do you. Okay, is there a.
Chris [00:21:09]:
But that’s.
Sam [00:21:10]:
I mean, is there a photo of the back of the guy’s head?
Chris [00:21:14]:
No.
Sam [00:21:14]:
Like, does he have like a giant, like, ponytail type looks like There’s a.
Chris [00:21:18]:
Photo of the dude who died. 17 year old track and field star. Star. Sort of. Well, whatever. But, yeah, I mean, it’s just. Yeah, but guns. Absolutely.
Chris [00:21:33]:
Should have let kids have guns, you know, in America. That’s just brilliant. Brilliant.
Sam [00:21:39]:
Well, we know this. I don’t know why you’re preaching to us.
Chris [00:21:44]:
Okay, so I’m gonna talk about this for a second. Do you remember me talking about Dungeon Crawler Carl?
Sam [00:21:51]:
Yeah, we read. I read the book. I haven’t read the latest book.
Chris [00:21:54]:
Right.
Sam [00:21:54]:
I’m one behind. Five out. Six out.
Chris [00:21:58]:
Yeah, I forget.
Sam [00:21:59]:
I want to say six. And I’ve read five. And you’ve read all of them.
Chris [00:22:01]:
I’ve read all of them.
Sam [00:22:02]:
Right, yes.
Chris [00:22:03]:
So there’s a. This is a kickstart. It’s already fully funded. It’s.
Sam [00:22:09]:
It’s. Is it the creator of.
Chris [00:22:12]:
Yes. And it’s. So Matt Din. Dinman.
Sam [00:22:15]:
Yeah, that’s right. Matt Denman.
Chris [00:22:17]:
Yep. Always say it wrong. Him and these graphic novel guys. So it’s called Dungeon Crawler Cow Crocodile, and it’s Florian’s story.
Sam [00:22:28]:
Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. One of the characters in the story.
Chris [00:22:31]:
One of the characters in the story. And it’s pretty cool.
Sam [00:22:35]:
And it’s gonna be a graphic novel.
Chris [00:22:36]:
They were. Yeah, it’s a graphic novel. At the time that we’re recording this, there’s 26 days left. They were after $50,000. Okay, how much have they race?
Sam [00:22:47]:
Well, he’s got a pretty decent fan base, I think. And he. What was the deal? He was writing the book on that.
Chris [00:22:54]:
Platform or it was on Patreon, and he would do the chapters, chapter by chapter and release it. And the Patreons get to read it.
Sam [00:23:01]:
As he’s writing and from memory. He had a mental amount of Patreons, then.
Chris [00:23:07]:
Yeah, as I recall.
Sam [00:23:08]:
What do they want? 50,000.
Chris [00:23:09]:
They wanted 50,000.
Sam [00:23:10]:
Okay. I’m going to say.
Chris [00:23:12]:
And we got 26 days left. I don’t know how long it started. It’s usually 30 days.
Sam [00:23:16]:
31, maybe 31 somewhere.
Chris [00:23:18]:
Okay.
Sam [00:23:21]:
Half a million. 500,000.
Chris [00:23:23]:
1.57 million.
Sam [00:23:25]:
Wow, that’s cool. Yeah, that’s really cool.
Chris [00:23:27]:
Really cool. So they had these. What do you call it? The.
Sam [00:23:32]:
The tiers.
Chris [00:23:33]:
Tiers, yeah. That’s a win.
Sam [00:23:34]:
And you.
Chris [00:23:35]:
And the top ones, all the top two tiers all sold out within an hour in the first hour, which presumably all the Patreons just jumped in and bought them.
Sam [00:23:44]:
Yes. Do they have stretch goals?
Chris [00:23:47]:
Yes, they do. And so. And I haven’t got right into that because I’m not on that sort of thing. I think it’d be really cool to actually get these comics because Florian’s a cool character anyway.
Sam [00:23:59]:
How much does it just for a basic comic book?
Chris [00:24:02]:
I guess the basic PDF of everything.
Sam [00:24:05]:
Oh, are they only doing PDFs?
Chris [00:24:07]:
No, they’re doing hardcover. The cheapest one was PDF. I think it’s called a bronze. And I want to say it was 29 years. And that’s for the whole series. Yeah, yeah.
Sam [00:24:17]:
I wonder how much profit they make, though. Like, I just. I really want to see some of these breakdowns of these Kickstarter projects.
Chris [00:24:23]:
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sam [00:24:23]:
Because that’s a lot of money.
Chris [00:24:25]:
That’s a hell of a lot of money.
Sam [00:24:27]:
But then how much of that? Like, yeah, they must be saving money or not getting cheaper rates if they do more print runs of physical.
Chris [00:24:36]:
For sure.
Sam [00:24:37]:
But then at what point do they go, we might as well partner with an actual publisher because we can prove how popular it is.
Chris [00:24:45]:
I think this is an actual Vault Comics is who is running. Okay, so they are an actual publisher. So the video that, you know, the intro video, whatever, has Matt Dimming and talking to them and then the other guys talking about what they’re doing and all that sort of thing. So it’s an actual comic publisher.
Sam [00:25:03]:
I just.
Chris [00:25:04]:
And they’ve done a few of these things. This is on backerkit.com which is obviously what Volt uses.
Sam [00:25:13]:
Okay, whatever.
Chris [00:25:14]:
But, yeah, have a look. I’m sort of tempted, but you’d want to get the. I think you want to get the gold, which is about 100 US.
Sam [00:25:22]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:25:23]:
But the top one from memory, like, there’s all this stuff and, you know, they’re sold out. You can’t get them. But I did have a look And I think you get killed off in a book if, you know, if you pay the fee. 1500, I think was the top one. Yeah, yeah.
Sam [00:25:38]:
There is something to be said about fans of whatever you’re creating.
Chris [00:25:42]:
Yeah, like, absolutely. And, and it, I’m a fan, obviously. You, you’re a fan, I guess, to some degree. And so. And we’re talking about it in a podcast, so there you go.
Sam [00:25:53]:
And we may have talked about it twice before probably. And then I saw that guy at Armageddon once dressed up as him.
Chris [00:26:00]:
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you told me about that.
Sam [00:26:01]:
So, you know.
Chris [00:26:03]:
Yeah. So that’s cool.
Sam [00:26:05]:
Excellent. Oh, I got an email from the [email protected], the people that buy and sell websites.
Chris [00:26:14]:
Oh yeah? Yeah.
Sam [00:26:14]:
They want to know if I’m going to sell op shop directory, of all things. So I’ve got to book a call with some dude in America at some stupid time at night to have a yarn with him about different things.
Chris [00:26:25]:
It’d be interesting to see what they think that’s worth.
Sam [00:26:28]:
Oh, it’s not much. It’s not much. Yeah, I, I think the AI, they got an AI bot. So before you even reply to this guy, they’re like, hey, if you’d want to have a look. And it’s weird because I’m like, I don’t know where the website fits. So in the categories it was like, well, I don’t know what to pick. So I picked some random stuff and it came back with like 1100 bucks. And I’m like, cool.
Sam [00:26:51]:
But I flicked him an email and I said, you know what, let’s have a chat just, you know, for the hell of it. And he goes, yeah, sweet ass. And he goes, let me know, you know, these couple of other things. Like, you know, do you have social media and how many is on that and do you have an email list and all these little things? And then he goes, I’ll give you a better idea. So I don’t know where he’s from. America somewhere. I’ve got to tee up a zoom call with him. And then like, I haven’t touched this website in a year.
Sam [00:27:17]:
It makes a bit of little bit of money from Google Ads. It just ticks away in the background. I get emails all the time from people for updates and stuff.
Chris [00:27:24]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:27:24]:
And honestly, if I, I, if I only had one thing to work on, it probably should be this because it is the only thing that continuously makes money throughout the year.
Chris [00:27:32]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:27:33]:
And I’m always got people. And then so I get this email I replied to the guy yesterday. And then last night I look at the thing and somebody brought me a coffee for 25 bucks. Cause you can do that. And this guy goes, hey, I brought you this coffee. Can we have a chat? I’ve got an idea for a community initiative or something. So I’ve got to talk to this.
Chris [00:27:55]:
Other rando guy, wonder if he’s going to try create something with school. My school community’s going well. I’m enjoying that.
Sam [00:28:02]:
Yeah, that’s good. But I don’t know what the deal is. It just all happens at once.
Chris [00:28:07]:
Oh, that’s cool.
Sam [00:28:07]:
So we’ll see.
Chris [00:28:08]:
At least check out. Check these things out. How are we going for time?
Sam [00:28:12]:
You’ve got 30 seconds.
Chris [00:28:13]:
So I’m gonna talk about this. Have you, Chris, this is funny. This is funny.
Sam [00:28:19]:
Okay, go.
Chris [00:28:20]:
India’s got a festival, right? Yeah, that way. India’s got lots of festivals, but one of them is where the goddess Durga sitting at top her lion. The Hindu goddess Durga wields a celestial weapon in each of her ten hands. So she’s got ten hands. Yeah, but her target isn’t the usual demon of deceit, Maheshishura. This year the target is Donald Trump.
Sam [00:28:51]:
Oh.
Chris [00:28:51]:
So in the annual festival, the demon that gets slayed all month or all week or whatever, however it is, will be Donald Trump, because apparently he’s the demon around the world at the moment, representing the forces of evil. A striking figure with a blond coif, a rippling torso. Had to do that.
Sam [00:29:15]:
Yeah, I guess so.
Chris [00:29:16]:
And a face modeled on US President Donald Trump.
Sam [00:29:20]:
Well, that’s something.
Chris [00:29:22]:
Durga Puja is the name of the goddess. So.
Sam [00:29:26]:
Okay, if you’re celebrating that, have fun, good luck, and stab away. And that brings us to the end of the podcast. Until next week. I’m Sam.
Chris [00:29:40]:
I’m Chris.
Sam [00:29:40]:
See ya.
Chris [00:29:41]:
Bye.
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