Summary
Chris gets his long-awaited doctor’s results and battles osteoarthritis while recounting his adventure at the massive Metallica concert—complete with broken trains and flaming pyrotechnics. Sam deals with two things breaking: a car window regulator and a barely functional modem, going up against unhelpful tech support.
We hear tales of shared email addresses, old people using AI, and how chatbots and hacking are evolving. There’s discussion about local songs and questionable concert choices.
All this and much more in this week’s episode!
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Sam [00:00:20]:
Hello and welcome to episode 557 of the Chris and Sam Podcast.
Chris [00:00:24]:
I’m Chris.
Sam [00:00:25]:
And I’m Sam. Welcome along to your weekly fix of randomness, technology and life. You don’t need to be out there in the sun. You just lurk in your basement listening to a podcast. Welcome.
Chris [00:00:35]:
They could be out in the sun, mowing the lawns, listening to podcasts. Who knows? Could. Could happen. Could happen.
Sam [00:00:40]:
It could.
Chris [00:00:41]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:00:41]:
I don’t know why it could happen.
Chris [00:00:43]:
I have had a. A busy, busy week.
Sam [00:00:46]:
You’ve had a week?
Chris [00:00:46]:
I’ve had a week. I’ve had a week. So I did get my results back from the doctors. I’ll mention this first.
Sam [00:00:52]:
Get out. Everybody’s been hanging out for this.
Chris [00:00:54]:
Well, no, I. I thought. I’ll tell you on this because I. I hate to say it, but, you know, you were right.
Sam [00:01:02]:
What? What, What. What am I right about?
Chris [00:01:04]:
I have severe osteoarthritis in my right hip.
Sam [00:01:08]:
Okay. That’s. You don’t need to be a medical doctor to know that. You don’t even have to have sight to somehow know that. Okay, so what’s the plan?
Chris [00:01:17]:
I don’t know. I. So they. They. I had to go back in and do a. What do you call it? Do a questionnaire to get a referral.
Sam [00:01:25]:
Oh, yeah.
Chris [00:01:26]:
So I’ve got to get a referral with a specialist. But it’s like there’s a really bad long way. But it depends how impacting of your life it is.
Sam [00:01:34]:
Very impactful.
Chris [00:01:35]:
Pretty bad.
Sam [00:01:36]:
Yeah. Just. Okay.
Chris [00:01:37]:
Trouble.
Sam [00:01:38]:
Once. Once you state that you are no longer able to do a podcast that you’ve been doing for 11 years. Top of the list, guaranteed.
Chris [00:01:46]:
Yeah. Anyway, so. So that was cool. So found that out early in the week. And then went up to Auckland for a Metallica concert.
Sam [00:01:57]:
Yeah. You did?
Chris [00:01:58]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:01:59]:
With everybody else in New Zealand.
Chris [00:02:00]:
I did, yeah. Felt like it. Sorry. Screaming.
Sam [00:02:05]:
Don’t worry, there’s some screaming outside. I’m sure it’s friendly screaming.
Chris [00:02:09]:
Yeah, no, it’s the kids across the road. Yeah. So I went to Metallica concert. 55,000 people, as you said. So I did check with my sister. I’m like, this is a seated thing, right?
Sam [00:02:19]:
Oh, yeah, yeah. Great, great question.
Chris [00:02:21]:
Not standing. I couldn’t.
Sam [00:02:23]:
No, I couldn’t stand. No, no.
Chris [00:02:24]:
So say it’s cool. She goes, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So there’s my sister’s partner, Jason, it’s his 50th birthday and he’s a huge Metallica fan, so they bought the tickets.
Sam [00:02:35]:
Good.
Chris [00:02:35]:
For his birthday. And so there’s Audrey and Jason, their daughter Freya, who’s four.
Sam [00:02:44]:
Okay.
Chris [00:02:44]:
Audrey’s daughter Brooke, who is about 30.
Sam [00:02:49]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:02:50]:
And Audrey’s. And Brooke’s husband Ryan, who’s around 30, I guess.
Sam [00:02:55]:
Right. And you and me. Age unknown.
Chris [00:02:58]:
Yeah. But yeah. So Brooks. The whole point was Brooks staying at the Airbnb and looking after Freya. So Freya didn’t come along.
Sam [00:03:05]:
Oh. So, yeah, I wasn’t sure where the story was going to go.
Chris [00:03:08]:
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So originally it was supposed to be Liam going. Yes. But Liam, you know, because they bought tickets months ago, but Liam had had another child.
Sam [00:03:17]:
So how gutted is Liam? But also not gutted. Sorry.
Chris [00:03:20]:
Probably not gutted. And then they go, okay, all right, Charlotte can come instead. That’s the other niece.
Sam [00:03:26]:
Yeah. And.
Chris [00:03:28]:
But she’s. She’s decided to stay in Perth. She’s living in Perth.
Sam [00:03:31]:
Oh, okay.
Chris [00:03:31]:
So third choice, I guess we’ll ask Uncle Chris. Yeah, so it was cool. But, yeah, 55,000 people. They stayed at BNB in Henderson. So this thing with the trains. Trains are great. I really like trains. Trains.
Chris [00:03:47]:
I don’t think trains like me.
Sam [00:03:49]:
Oh.
Chris [00:03:50]:
So on the way up, one of the trains I was in broke down and had to put out of service.
Sam [00:03:56]:
Well, what ha. Okay.
Chris [00:03:59]:
We were in the station and the light started.
Sam [00:04:01]:
Oh, you’re on the station. Sorry, I thought you were on the train.
Chris [00:04:03]:
I was on the train.
Sam [00:04:04]:
Oh, I see.
Chris [00:04:06]:
It had stopped at a station. So I’ve been on for a while.
Sam [00:04:08]:
Oh, and okay. And.
Chris [00:04:10]:
And we stopped there for a while and the lights are flickering and people are looking around. I’m like, oh, is this not normal? Because I don’t know.
Sam [00:04:18]:
Yeah. Who knows?
Chris [00:04:19]:
And then it goes, you might want to get off here. We need to take this train out of service. What are the odds of that? So, you know, it didn’t take a lot longer. I had to wait another 10 minutes for another train.
Sam [00:04:29]:
Oh, that’s right. That’s right.
Chris [00:04:31]:
But the same thing happened the next day when I’m going back. Different train. Well, I assume it’s a different train.
Sam [00:04:38]:
No, it’s the same one. How to kill a duct tape.
Chris [00:04:42]:
Was. Was out of service and nearly 20 minutes. I was like, I’ve got to catch Tua. I’ve got to get to time to get this. But anyway, so that’s. That’s the. The trains there. But yeah, so 55,000 people went.
Chris [00:04:58]:
It’s just mind boggling how much money is involved in that whole thing.
Sam [00:05:05]:
Oh yeah.
Chris [00:05:05]:
Like so the show itself must have cost millions. I’m thinking if there’s 55,000 people there, between 100 and $200 per person at least. Just the cost of the show. Oh yeah, just the cost of the show. We were up in the nosebleeds and the big pyrotechnic flames come up and instant heat wash. Good. And I’m like, what’s it like down there?
Sam [00:05:30]:
Don’t worry, they’ve got a suntan now.
Chris [00:05:33]:
Well, because apparently that happened to the lead singer once. He got his hand burnt so bad from. He was too close. Yeah, Technics. That they had to get the roadie to come out and play the guitar for him. And he did the singing because he couldn’t move.
Sam [00:05:46]:
Crazy.
Chris [00:05:47]:
A couple of funny things maybe. When they go on concert everywhere, so it’s a world tour everywhere they go the night before or the day before, they learn a couple of local songs.
Sam [00:05:58]:
I did hear about this.
Chris [00:05:59]:
Oh, did you?
Sam [00:06:00]:
Yeah. Yes.
Chris [00:06:00]:
Okay. So they do learn a couple of local songs and they get the crowd to sing along. That’s pretty cool. So the start of was Split Ends. I don’t know the name of the songs. I know the words. I know the words and I don’t know.
Sam [00:06:11]:
Say some words.
Chris [00:06:12]:
No, because I haven’t written it down. See it in my eyes and you know that I’m not frightened yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sam [00:06:19]:
I heard that one was okay.
Chris [00:06:20]:
Yeah, that was great. Everybody sang the whole stadium. It was like boom.
Sam [00:06:25]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:06:25]:
And then they played something else and everybody’s silent and we’re like, I don’t know this song. Or are they butchering it so badly? I don’t know what it is. And then apparently it was a 660 song.
Sam [00:06:39]:
660 is quite popular. They have a documentary they play everywhere. And depending on who you listen to, the reviews are they only play the same type of song. I think they’ve got really good management. So they are probably punching higher than they probably should be. I think is the general comments. People online at the Metallica thing were just absolutely like, what the hell? And everybody, I think pretty much everyone said it should have been a Shihad song.
Chris [00:07:05]:
Yeah. I was going to say I would have thought if they wanted to go popular that everybody knew, like obviously Split Ends was a good choice because everybody just grows up with it. They know.
Sam [00:07:17]:
Well, the age demographic that was at the Metallica concert was mainly the Older. Yeah, true middle age people.
Chris [00:07:23]:
But, yeah, I even something like good shirt or something like that would have some of the heady.
Sam [00:07:29]:
There was a lot more pops. There was a lot of other options. And people online were like, who the hell told them 660?
Chris [00:07:35]:
Yeah, that’s what. That’s what I thought.
Sam [00:07:37]:
Plus, I think they butchered it a little bit. But people said, hey, they did quite well with only like a day’s.
Chris [00:07:43]:
Exactly, exactly. There was one other funny thing. So Jason’s a huge Metallica fan, right?
Sam [00:07:48]:
Yeah, that.
Chris [00:07:49]:
That I went with. He goes, oh, there’s only the first four albums. You ask any real, real Metallica fan. It’s the first four albums, not this other stuff. Because I like. Yeah, I. I like the Sandman song. Of course you do.
Chris [00:08:01]:
Yeah, yeah. But he goes, right, who’s got our first album? You know, the guy and. And he goes, what is it called? Kill Them All.
Sam [00:08:11]:
Kill Them All. Yeah.
Chris [00:08:12]:
And he goes, I’m going to say a word and we’re going to see if you know what the answer is. And then he goes, sig. And this crowd brawls. And I’m like, what did he just say? What. What Nazi shit is this? I thought he was saying, seek hail. His arms going up. And one of the songs is. I realized once he started playing it and I could hear the words seek and destroy.
Sam [00:08:37]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:08:37]:
So everybody’s going, and destroy or something like that. I was like, ah, okay, it’s not Nazi. I told Jason that afterwards. He was cracking up. He’s going, oh, yeah, that’s why I had my fist clothes when I stuck.
Sam [00:08:50]:
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You’re like, oh, no. What have I come along to?
Chris [00:08:54]:
What have I come along to?
Sam [00:08:55]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:08:56]:
So the only other thing is I should create a concert simulator for work because.
Sam [00:09:01]:
What does that mean?
Chris [00:09:03]:
I’m going to explain.
Sam [00:09:04]:
Good.
Chris [00:09:05]:
Because I’m sitting at the end of the row, which was great because I was going to sort of turn out a little bit every 1.3 minutes. I have to stand up to let somebody out of the row.
Sam [00:09:16]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:09:17]:
If I. If I did that all the time when I was working on the computer at home, I wouldn’t probably have as bad a hip as I do right now. So, yeah, concerts of mine. Anyway, that was my big Metallica story.
Sam [00:09:28]:
I did read online, though, someone was saying, because I think the last ones they did, the stage actually comes right out into the middle. And that stage you went and saw was a traditional one. And somebody said, oh, actually that’s the one they used in Australia. And it’s a logistics and cost saving thing because they must have two sets because you know how most places always have two sets that are like bunny hopping.
Chris [00:09:53]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:09:53]:
Each other to get set up for the next show.
Chris [00:09:57]:
That’s interesting too. So they have the stage and then a. A loopy out stage and there’s a little bit in the middle. I didn’t know that’s called a snake pit. Have you heard?
Sam [00:10:08]:
Oh, okay. No, that’s new to me.
Chris [00:10:09]:
And people pay to go in there. Do you know what it costs to go in the snake?
Sam [00:10:13]:
I saw a photo that somebody took from that, I think because it was so close. It was like the base greatest photo.
Chris [00:10:20]:
Oh yeah, yeah. So the tickets for the snake pit were $4,000.
Sam [00:10:24]:
Okay.
Chris [00:10:25]:
Each.
Sam [00:10:25]:
Okay.
Chris [00:10:26]:
And I think you might have got a VIP meet and greet afterwards with that. But yeah.
Sam [00:10:31]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:10:31]:
Anyway, I didn’t know people spent that much on concerts, but there you go. Apparently Jason was going to spend 5,000 last time they were coming, but one of the band members called the concert off cuz he ended up in rehab. He was about to spend $4,5000 for a meet and greet and all the rest. Such a fan. And then he met Audrey and they have a kid and so now he’s sitting in the nosebleed.
Sam [00:10:56]:
He still had a great experience.
Chris [00:10:58]:
Oh yeah. No, he loved it. He loved it. It was great. It was good catching up with the family too. So anyway, moving on.
Sam [00:11:04]:
In this last week I’ve had two things break on me.
Chris [00:11:07]:
Break?
Sam [00:11:07]:
Yeah. First was the driving Sarah’s car and the window just fell down the side.
Chris [00:11:14]:
Driver’s window drive.
Sam [00:11:15]:
Yeah, driver’s window. Just to be a pain in the ass. But anyway, the driver’s window just fell down. So anyway, that part is called a window regulator is what they call that. Oh yeah.
Chris [00:11:24]:
And it’s. So the glass didn’t break or anything, it just dropped. Right, gotcha.
Sam [00:11:28]:
Yes. Because it’s connected to the window regulator. The glass is bolted to this little bracket that goes up and down on a rail. There’s a little motor over on the left hand side and there’s a cable that goes to the top and the bottom and the cable has snapped. Found a YouTube clip on a guy pulling it to bits. Really fiddly to get this thing out. I have not put the new one in yet because I’m dreading it, but basically.
Chris [00:11:55]:
So you just. Would you go to super cheap auto or something and buy the parts or.
Sam [00:12:00]:
No, no, no, no. It’s not, it’s not that easy. Chris Scrap People don’t want to talk to you. No. So I rang up my mechanic actually, and I was like, hey, the window regulator’s broken. Can you fix this? He goes, yeah, I can do that. And I was like, I’ve seen a video online, it just looks fiddly but not hard. And I’ve pulled out the old one.
Sam [00:12:20]:
He goes, oh, yeah, sweet. And he goes, oh, contact this parts dealer and they’ll be able to hook you up. And like, worst case is at the moment, just jam the window up with a piece of wood. Yeah. So it’s fully closed and then you can get this thing. So I spoke to these guys a couple of times. They vaguely remember talking to me. They’ve got it noted down.
Sam [00:12:41]:
One guy was like, oh, I wasn’t here yesterday. Oh, cool. Yep. I’ll ring you straight back, tell you how much it is. There’s a couple of people selling them on Trade Me. Nobody got back to me. Oh, one guy was dismantling the same car on Trade Me and it’s like, message him for the thing. He goes, I’ll send it to you for $250 plus postage.
Sam [00:13:03]:
I was like, no, not paying that. And there’s a crowd in Auckland and I can’t remember what their name is now. And they seem to be maybe a car dealer, but that also sells parts. So they get OEM parts in. Anyway, I’ve got this thing for $140. Looks like the thing I pulled out. But it’s. It’s weird because you have to feed it into like a couple of holes in your door panel, get it where it needs to go, keep it separated how it has to, and then bolt the motor on as well.
Sam [00:13:38]:
So there’s two. Very awkward, very strange. Anyway, working on that, work in progress. I just don’t.
Chris [00:13:45]:
It’s too.
Sam [00:13:47]:
Because I’m going to have to set aside a bunch of time. It’s too hot. Because when it broke, I was pulling the car apart at 9 o’ clock at night because I was like, I have to, I, I can’t just to bodge it up. I have to do something so you.
Chris [00:14:03]:
Can close the window.
Sam [00:14:03]:
And then I found in the exact. It’s an American video, exact same model, but obviously the other door.
Chris [00:14:09]:
Yeah, yeah.
Sam [00:14:09]:
But he’s just like, yeah, just pull this out, do this, do that. And I’m like, okay. But I got to the point where I couldn’t get the. I couldn’t get the motor and the whole thing out. And I knew it was broken. So I just cut the other piece.
Chris [00:14:21]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:14:21]:
So I’m gonna. But that was with the glass down in the door. So now that the glass is up, I think I’ve got a bit more room. I’ll bolt in all the things I need. I’ll lower the glass down, attach that and touch wood. Hope that it all works.
Chris [00:14:39]:
Oh, good. You should absolutely be setting up your osmo on a stand, recording this.
Sam [00:14:46]:
It’s just me.
Chris [00:14:47]:
No, no, no, that’d be great. Particularly if it fucking fails. Spect. That’d be awesome.
Sam [00:14:55]:
I’ll tell you what, I’ll tell you what fails spectacularly. And I’m going to mention their name multiple times because we do the transcript that goes on our podcast show [email protected] so when people Google stuff, I want them to know that Skinny and their modems are a piece of shit. So it. My modem died. Now I’m at the stage of life where I can’t be bothered buying an extra thing. I just go with whatever they give me. Yeah. I go, thank you.
Sam [00:15:21]:
Give me your little crappy modem that has no buttons and has a bunch of lights and it works. So my modem died. We had no Internet, and I don’t like not having Internet. And it died almost exactly to the day, one year later since the last one died, Honestly, almost exactly the same day. So their modems can only work for 365 days of the year and they just give up. And then I was like, I remember talking to someone a year ago about the previous modem. I had to go through all this rigmarole and they sent me the new one. And remember I said on the podcast, they were like, soon as I got that new modem, like, where’s the old one? Send us the old one.
Sam [00:16:05]:
They were like hassling me to make sure I sent that old one back.
Chris [00:16:07]:
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that.
Sam [00:16:09]:
So I was like, I can’t remember where I spoke to these guys. And I couldn’t find any emails. And it was a whole thing. And then I was like, you have to really, like, do a Google search to try and find on their website where to go. And there’s a page and goes, talk to us on Facebook Messenger. And I was like, oh, that’s where it was. So I got the Facebook messenger. So I was like, hey, how’s it going? I’ve got the exact same problem as last time.
Sam [00:16:35]:
You can read the comments above this message. Everything is identical. It does not work. Blah, blah, blah. And this is on Friday night. And so that’s cool. I’ve turned off and on. It makes this high pitched winding sound like you can actually hear it.
Sam [00:16:53]:
There’s no Internet. So anyway, I do not hear from these people. Oh, they apparently work Saturday, Sunday, apparently, who knows? I hear from them on Monday. No, sorry, 10 o’ clock Monday morning, I message them again and going, hey, have you seen this? And then somebody goes, hey, oh, six o’ clock that night they said, oh, hey. They finally get back to me, what’s going on? What kind of connection do you have? So I tell them that and then they’re like, to confirm that you’re the right person, you have to give us three of these things. When is your last billing date, how much did you pay, what is your registered mobile number, what plan are you on and are you on a 12 month contract? Yes or no? So I give them all of that. They ghost me. Tuesday, Tuesday I get a message going, may I know what is the color of the light indicated on the modem? Now because on Monday they never replied to me.
Sam [00:17:54]:
I went and brought a modem big shout out to pbtech with their Black Friday sale. Good deal. And I plugged it in and it all worked. And I’ve got faster Internet now than ever. I’m happy. So anyway, Tuesday at like 11:30, I’m at work, I just get a message and I think I’ve gone from maybe a person to some weird chatbot. May I know what is the color of the light indicated on the modem? That’s it. Do you want to hear my response? I have, I have no idea.
Sam [00:18:21]:
I am at work. They were all green last time I checked. Like I said, it’s making this whining sound like it did last time. It failed. Due to the huge amounts of time between messages and me using all of my fast data on my phone, I’ve ended up buying my own router to have Internet as I really can’t wait for your messages. So where we’re at is your router does not work. It has failed exactly the same as last time a year ago. There is nothing more I can tell you apart from it makes this high pitched sound and there is no Internet.
Sam [00:18:47]:
The new router I purchased however, works amazingly well, makes no sound and it’s great. Am I annoyed I’ve had to buy one? Yes. Am I annoyed that you guys take hours to reply to a simple message? Yes. If you want your broken router back, please send me your courier bag. So anyway, I finally get a message like multiple hours later. I understand Your concern and I apologize for your inconvenience. In order to better assist you, I really need to check the lights on your modem as they can hang on, as they can determine where the issue might be coming from. We have to troubleshoot to identify the issue with your modem and, and get your Internet connection up and running smoothly.
Sam [00:19:25]:
I’m like, what is going on? I’m like, losing the plot. I said, well, you can wait until I get around to unplugging my working modem to check your broken one. Might be tonight, might be tomorrow or next week, who knows? Thank you for your understanding. And then they come back and go, I understand, Sam.
Chris [00:19:41]:
There’s a chatbot.
Sam [00:19:42]:
And I was like, do you. Anyway, it goes, thanks.
Chris [00:19:45]:
How come the chatbot’s so slow, though?
Sam [00:19:47]:
I know. It should be instant, instant. I know. And then goes, how are you? You know, how likely are you to recommend? What could we do better? So I wrote a little bit there, and then it said, thinking about your experience with the advisor, what would you give them? And then they said, did we take ownership of your request? Please either enter yes no or skip. And I went, no. And then it goes, the survey is now closed. Thank you for your time.
Chris [00:20:14]:
Oh, man, that sucks.
Sam [00:20:16]:
So, you know, I have to hold onto this thing if I ever leave them because soon as I, if I leave them as a service, they’ll be.
Chris [00:20:22]:
Like, where’s my modem?
Sam [00:20:23]:
Anyway, Very, very strange. I thought was bizarre.
Chris [00:20:26]:
Yeah. Because I, I, I’m using a 2 degrees modem similar to you. Like, I, I’ve had my own routers and stuff in the past. It, it’s just a drama putting a, a third party modem on sometimes.
Sam [00:20:40]:
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Chris [00:20:41]:
So gave me a 2 degrees modem. So I’m like, sweet. And it works fine and I have no problems with it, except as I did try to explain to them, but they didn’t get it.
Sam [00:20:51]:
No. Here we go.
Chris [00:20:52]:
Yeah, it’s a, it’s a reuse modem. Like, they’ve taken it back and they’ve, yeah. Wiped it.
Sam [00:20:58]:
Refurbished it.
Chris [00:20:59]:
Yeah. But they haven’t done the, it’s got somebody’s password.
Sam [00:21:05]:
Oh, okay.
Chris [00:21:06]:
As the advent.
Sam [00:21:07]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:21:07]:
So it uses the password on the label for the, you know, to connect. But when, if you want to put in the admin password, which in the manual says it’s default set to 0,000, whatever it is. No, no, it goes, right. Put your school, the kindergarten you went to or something in there. And I’m like, what are you talking About.
Sam [00:21:31]:
Hang on, you’ve got two options.
Chris [00:21:34]:
How do they know?
Sam [00:21:36]:
Or what is someone else’s.
Chris [00:21:39]:
Yeah, yeah, just like, ah, somebody else has just done that and they, however they’ve done the reset, it hasn’t, it hasn’t changed that at all. So I don’t have any access to the, the more important parts of the modem, which is annoying. But I, I have, I lost sleep for it for a few weeks and then I was like, I don’t care anymore.
Sam [00:21:58]:
It’s just so hard to get hold of these people now.
Chris [00:22:00]:
Yeah, yeah.
Sam [00:22:01]:
I really do feel for older people that or people that aren’t ticks know anything.
Chris [00:22:06]:
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sam [00:22:06]:
Like really can see how people get.
Chris [00:22:08]:
Dad’s freaking out about his emails, right? So he couldn’t get emails from the lawyer. The lawyer sent the emails to me because he goes, I haven’t heard from the lawyer. I’m like, I got hold of the lawyer and they go oh no. We emailed him all the stuff including our invoice.
Sam [00:22:22]:
Oh wow.
Chris [00:22:23]:
You know, I was like oh can you email that to me and I’ll forward it to him? Because you know, it had dealings. So. And I had to sign the papers so they did that. So I got it and then I emailed it to him. He never got that. I’m like what’s going on with your email now he’s at Extra. No, at Outlook.
Sam [00:22:40]:
Oh, okay.
Chris [00:22:41]:
So yeah, because I don’t know how Outlook. If it was Gmail I’d be like.
Sam [00:22:45]:
No, I think, I think it’s the same. It’s just outlook.com I think.
Chris [00:22:48]:
Yeah, I was talking to Audrey at, at the Metallica concert cuz she, she’d been see him and she’d had a look and she goes, I think he clicked on something because it keeps coming up saying you’re if you want more storage for your email you need to do this. And she goes I keep emptying the recycle bin, but it just keeps doing. It’s some. She goes I reckon it’s got some virus thing in there.
Sam [00:23:12]:
Needs to make a new email address. Yeah, it’s weird. Old people do not like having multiple email addresses. They’ll have one. How do you feel about old people that share an email address? I came across that a while ago. They’ve got one between the two of them. So they all get the notifications. They all seem to check the notifications at the same time as well.
Chris [00:23:32]:
I have come across that a couple of times. The one that surprises me the most is Will.
Sam [00:23:38]:
What Is that what’s he got?
Chris [00:23:39]:
Well, because he’s got the Facebook. His Facebook identity is Will Ann Moni.
Sam [00:23:45]:
Oh, yes, yes, yes. That’s more. I reckon that’s more common than a shared email address.
Chris [00:23:49]:
I don’t know. I don’t think I can handle a social media.
Sam [00:23:52]:
I think that was when Facebook first started. There was quite a lot of people doing that. Yeah, maybe.
Chris [00:23:58]:
Yeah, maybe, maybe.
Sam [00:23:59]:
I don’t know.
Chris [00:24:00]:
That seems weird to me. But then I’ve just been single for so long, it’s everything.
Sam [00:24:05]:
Everything’s weird to you?
Chris [00:24:06]:
Everything’s weird to me.
Sam [00:24:07]:
That’s right.
Chris [00:24:08]:
So old.
Sam [00:24:09]:
Is dumb people using AI weird to you?
Chris [00:24:12]:
No, dumb people use AI all the time. And I just assume it’s true.
Sam [00:24:16]:
Can I just say, I’ve seen this recently and I think it’s the stupidest thing. If you are in any Facebook group, especially community groups, someone will ask something. And I’ve got an example for this from yesterday. And then people in the. In the comments then go to ChatGPT or Google or something and just type in the exact same question that the person’s asking, copy it or take a screenshot and then post it as if that’s the proper answer. And heaps of people are doing this now. So I think these older dumb people are now realizing that they can just ask ChatGPT and you cannot rely on everything it tells you.
Chris [00:24:58]:
Oh, hell no.
Sam [00:24:59]:
So yesterday, for some reason, Kmart T Rapa was closed for the whole day. And in the Kmart warehouse group, whatever it is, people were like, why is it closed? And the answers ranged from, oh, there was a stabbing the night before and they had to clean it up to it’s the Abyssos sand. They’re doing a deep clean. Or in all reality, I think it was a closed stock take.
Chris [00:25:22]:
Yeah, yeah.
Sam [00:25:23]:
Oh, I just put it into Chat GPT and Chat GPT told me that the New Zealand Kmart are looking at what stores to close and they are going to close the to Rapa store. And that’s just happened. What are you smoking?
Chris [00:25:40]:
Anyway, so there was a. I think it was a Pakistani newspaper.
Sam [00:25:45]:
Okay.
Chris [00:25:46]:
And there was a story in there, but it got published. This went viral on the Internet because there’s a screenshot of the bottom of the story goes. Also, I can change the thing because they just copy and pasted the whole chatgpt. I know, with the other bit at the bottom that says I can make the headline even more than.
Sam [00:26:07]:
But people are doing that online now. And I’m like, no. So it’s crazy. So I don’t think you have to be worried about AI taking your jobs. I think you just have to be a bit more smarter than the dumb people using AI to be okay.
Chris [00:26:22]:
So I have a story here that I did want to talk about, but I’m an old person, so what I did. Because Trello does this now, I don’t know if you’ve come across it. You have to. If you put a link in there, you have to hit save. You can’t just close it out.
Sam [00:26:36]:
Oh, yeah, I know I’ve been caught out by that. But it’s like a weird. I just. It worked perfectly before.
Chris [00:26:41]:
I know the user interface changed and I’ve done it a few times. I’m usually. I thought I was better at it, but this, this AI has done a successful hack of a company.
Sam [00:26:52]:
Okay.
Chris [00:26:52]:
And so I haven’t got the story in front of me, so I’m going to probably get all of this wrong. But the whole idea was it, create it. They. The hackers used AI to create the hack.
Sam [00:27:05]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:27:06]:
Find the right people, find the right nodes, hit the right thing. Yeah. It. It’s not like they could say, find this all and hack it. They had to use it.
Sam [00:27:16]:
Yeah, yeah.
Chris [00:27:17]:
Separate things to do separate jobs in a whole sequence.
Sam [00:27:19]:
And I think that’s a part to it.
Chris [00:27:21]:
But yeah, that’s a. A scary thing because that brings something that would be only available to quite a professional group of hackers is now available.
Sam [00:27:33]:
Way more accessible.
Chris [00:27:34]:
Yeah. Yeah. So that’s something to keep an eye on going forward.
Sam [00:27:39]:
Excellent. That brings us to the end of the podcast because I do fear that the person trimming grass out here is getting closer.
Chris [00:27:48]:
I don’t think it’ll. Maybe it will. Do you think it’ll come up on the. The audio? That’s the park. It’s the main park outside.
Sam [00:27:56]:
Yes. And they’re always where Chris roams. Free range.
Chris [00:28:00]:
Free range.
Sam [00:28:00]:
He likes it when they range hobbling. He likes it when they trim the grass for him. And with that thought in your head, that brings us to the end of the podcast. We will see you next time. My name’s Sam.
Chris [00:28:11]:
I’m Chris.
Sam [00:28:12]:
I’ll see ya.
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