Summary
This week, Sam and Chris talk robot dogs with hyper-realistic Elon Musk faces that “poop” art at Miami’s Art Basel, a stolen $33,000 Fabergé egg locket that takes a wild trip through the digestive system, and a $10 million solid gold toilet up for grabs.
AI loopholes, a man with a world record for most T-shirts in a half marathon, and the great rare plant market crash also make appearances.
Plus, there’s some bonus bowling, prediction market weirdness, and old-man quiz night stories. All this and plenty more randomness in this episode!
Links
Pooping Elon Dog and Others
Page 2 Stage Podcast
Who Watches the Watchers?
Plants in Jars Broke a Hobby
Optimus Robot Fail
Swallowing a Jeweled Locket
Indian Income Experiment
Kalshi Hits New Lows
Solid Gold Toilet for Sale
Half Marathon in How Many T-Shirts?
Show Transcript
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Sam [00:00:21]:
Hello and welcome to episode 560 of The chris and sam podcast.
Chris [00:00:26]:
I’m Chris.
Sam [00:00:27]:
And I’m Sam. Welcome along to your weekly fix of randomness, technology in life. And man, it’s been hot.
Chris [00:00:32]:
Yeah, it’s been approaching 30 degrees pretty much every day for the last few days. And I did not sleep well last night. It was hot last night.
Sam [00:00:41]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:00:41]:
And I had to get up early because I had this podcast at 5:00 in the morning from Mexico.
Sam [00:00:46]:
Of course you did.
Chris [00:00:47]:
And so I. Yeah, so let’s talk.
Sam [00:00:50]:
About you being on a Mexican based, Mexican recorded podcast.
Chris [00:00:54]:
Yeah, well, she’s in. I always get the name wrong. Puerto Vallarta, something like that. Yeah. Which is quite a touristy thing. But she’s off the beaten track. Wendy Corner runs The from page to stage podcast.
Sam [00:01:07]:
And how did Wendy find you?
Chris [00:01:08]:
Oh, I’ve known Wendy for a couple of years. So we’ve been mates for three years only on Zoom. I’ve only ever spoken to her on Zoom and stuff. So we’ve caught up a few times just by ourselves on the Zoom calls and stuff and also in lots of group things where I first met her. It’s interesting because she was a TEDx coach for. Oh, what is it? TEDx. University of Western Australia, something like that.
Sam [00:01:33]:
Oh, okay, okay.
Chris [00:01:34]:
Perth, out Perth way. So she lived out there for a long time. She’s a couple of years younger. Older than me, I should say. She’s a couple of years older than me. She’s. Now she’s just traveling the world, so she spent quite a bit of time in Malaysia and she went to. She’s been in Mexico for a few months and she’s planning on moving on to Panama and Guatemala soon.
Chris [00:01:57]:
So. And she’s running this podcast and it’s pretty good from page to stage. So it’s helping authors get to The stage.
Sam [00:01:57]:
Okay.
Chris [00:01:57]:
Yeah, so a traveler. Anyway, so. And she’s running this podcast and it’s pretty good from page to stage. So it’s helping authors get to a stage.
Sam [00:02:05]:
Yes.
Chris [00:02:06]:
Yeah, so it’s. It’s pretty good. So we, we had a really good chat this morning. I got carried away, talked way too much.
Sam [00:02:12]:
Find this hard to believe.
Chris [00:02:14]:
The podcast went a little long.
Sam [00:02:15]:
She hasn’t realized she hasn’t been podcasting with you for 11 years. Understands the subtleties of cutting you off. You just go, that’s enough.
Chris [00:02:23]:
Yeah, and I didn’t laugh. I don’t think I laughed at all.
Sam [00:02:26]:
Oh, that’s good.
Chris [00:02:27]:
Crap. Just thinking about it. But anyway, so it’s good. But it was a video podcast, so that’ll be interesting too. Yes, it’ll be a YouTube one.
Sam [00:02:34]:
So how many episodes have they done before? Have you done any research on this?
Chris [00:02:38]:
Oh, I did look at it. It’s been. She’s been doing them for, I want to say over a year.
Sam [00:02:43]:
Okay.
Chris [00:02:44]:
So I think it’s less than two years, but more than one year.
Sam [00:02:46]:
Very good. Okay, well that’s good. Do you hopefully get something out of this? People contact you or.
Chris [00:02:53]:
Yeah, well, I’m promoting my community.
Sam [00:02:56]:
Your only fans?
Chris [00:02:57]:
Yeah, yeah, no, no, the school one. Because the onlyfans is not paying any money at all.
Sam [00:03:03]:
Yeah. Why, why, why not?
Chris [00:03:05]:
I reckon I need to upgrade my underwear, honestly. Very good. I’m sorry, listeners, I know you don’t want to think about my underwear.
Sam [00:03:19]:
No, that’s right. Okay, did you see this story? Cause I’ve seen this pop up all around the world with the guy that swallowed the Faberge egg. Lock it.
Chris [00:03:31]:
No.
Sam [00:03:32]:
Okay, so New Zealand police have successfully, successfully recovered.
Chris [00:03:37]:
So New Zealand police. Okay, all right. Yep.
Sam [00:03:39]:
It happened in Auckland.
Chris [00:03:41]:
Okay.
Sam [00:03:41]:
Yeah. So this 32 year old was suspected of stealing and the recovery occurred naturally without requiring medical intervention. So that’s good. So this unnamed dude, he, this, it’s.
Chris [00:03:59]:
You need. I need context. I need to know what’s going on.
Sam [00:04:01]:
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the Faberge egg locket was known as the octopussy egg is what it is. And it had six.
Chris [00:04:08]:
This is like a museum piece or something, is it?
Sam [00:04:10]:
No, it was a jeweller. Like you could buy it, I guess. It was valued at 33,000 New Zealand dollars.
Chris [00:04:16]:
Okay.
Sam [00:04:17]:
60 white diamonds, 15 blue sapphires, and had an 18 carat gold miniature octopus in it. Yeah. So he went in and said, oh.
Chris [00:04:28]:
I just to look at that thing behind the counter. Can you hand it over? Yeah.
Sam [00:04:33]:
He ate the locket minutes after his arrest at the jewellery store. So I think he grabbed it and then they were like, oh, you were trying to steal it. And then he’s like, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom. And they had to wait a little bit. And the funny thing is I saw some posts and they were like, okay, cool. Did the New Zealand police have to show a photo of the locket sitting on a piece of toilet paper?
Chris [00:05:00]:
Oh, did they? Oh my. Oh my God. Cause who got that job? That’s a crap job.
Sam [00:05:06]:
Exactly. Cause you know, like, no matter how much they clean that thing, if you.
Chris [00:05:11]:
Knew, like the value’s just gone down.
Sam [00:05:13]:
It has.
Chris [00:05:14]:
It’s gone down by 10%.
Sam [00:05:16]:
That’s all, if not more. I’ve just realized I’ve got a lot of toilet based things this week.
Chris [00:05:23]:
I just looked at that and went, hang on, which one are you talking about?
Sam [00:05:26]:
So. So you know how I love art.
Chris [00:05:29]:
Yes.
Sam [00:05:29]:
This is a known fact.
Chris [00:05:32]:
Well, yeah. Okay, carry on, let’s talk about it.
Sam [00:05:36]:
Okay, so the dude, that Italian artist, Maurizio Catalan, he’s the guy that taped the banana to the wall. Yeah, yeah, good. But also he made some solid gold toilets that are up for sale if you want one. They weigh 101 kilos. The starting value at $10 million to buy one.
Chris [00:05:55]:
So are they life size toilets or miniatures that you put on the shelf or.
Sam [00:06:00]:
No, life size toilets. They’re starting value at $10 million to buy one.
Chris [00:06:04]:
Oh, so you could actually use it? Functional ones?
Sam [00:06:07]:
Great question. I assume so. It looks like a functioning toilet to me. So there’s two. He created two of them. And he called the sculpture, I guess America. That’s what he called it. And the other toilet’s been displayed since 2016 at the Guggenheim in New York.
Chris [00:06:30]:
Safer than the Louvre. It’d be pretty heavy to pick up. You mean you couldn’t pick that?
Sam [00:06:34]:
Apparently at some point our mate Donald Trump requested a Van Gogh painting and they tried offering this toilet to him instead. And I don’t think he took it.
Chris [00:06:48]:
But doesn’t he famously. Oh, no, he just has gold taps and stuff.
Sam [00:06:52]:
I knew this sounded familiar. We’ve talked about this toilet in the past. The other one. So back in England, the one that got off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they don’t know where that one is. The.
Chris [00:07:03]:
Oh, okay.
Sam [00:07:03]:
So they’re still investigating it, but they do.
Chris [00:07:06]:
So this is one of the pair.
Sam [00:07:07]:
Yeah, yeah. So I wonder if that beefed up the price.
Chris [00:07:10]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:07:11]:
So anyway, so the podcast.
Chris [00:07:14]:
So two stories so far, they both had to do with crap and prices. The podcast.
Sam [00:07:20]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:07:21]:
And the crap affecting.
Sam [00:07:22]:
Do you want another one?
Chris [00:07:23]:
Yeah, go on.
Sam [00:07:24]:
Okay. Have you seen the robot dogs with Elon Musk’s face on it?
Chris [00:07:28]:
No.
Sam [00:07:29]:
So there’s a digital.
Chris [00:07:32]:
Are you talking like the Boston Dynamics type dog?
Sam [00:07:35]:
Similar to that.
Chris [00:07:36]:
Yes, similar to that. Okay, right.
Sam [00:07:37]:
Okay. Now do you know who the digital artist Beeple is?
Chris [00:07:41]:
No.
Sam [00:07:42]:
Okay, so Beeple is a guy that every single day makes digital art. You would have seen his artwork. Cause he always does the weird things with Trump or whoever presidents are.
Chris [00:07:52]:
I think I have actually seen his stuff. When NFTS was a big thing that was made about him a lot.
Sam [00:07:58]:
That’s right. He transitioned and made a lot of money from NFTS really quickly. Anyway, he’s got these robot dogs with hyper realistic heads of Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk, Andy Warhol, Picasso, and one of him himself. And they. It’s called Regular Animals. And the robots themselves are flesh toned as well. So like a giant flesh robot.
Chris [00:08:22]:
Oh, wow.
Sam [00:08:22]:
And they sort of run around in like an area, and every now and then they poop. And it’s. It’s a Polaroid print out of its butt with a piece of AI generated art.
Chris [00:08:36]:
That’s pretty cool.
Sam [00:08:37]:
And a small screen lights up on its back and it goes poop mode and then that. But it looks just like Elon Musk on a robot. And then it spits it out.
Chris [00:08:46]:
Oh, my God. That sounds sort of both creepy and hilarious at the same time.
Sam [00:08:51]:
His stuff. That sums it up. That’s what his stuff’s like. So he’s. It’s currently at the Art Basel Miami, which is one of the world’s most prodigious art fairs.
Chris [00:09:03]:
I need to see video of this. I’m gonna look this up after. Yep.
Sam [00:09:07]:
So the robot actually has the cameras on it as well. So it takes photos of everything around it. That data is then used with an AI generator. And then it prints out the small photo. They were gonna. Over the course of the exhibit, they’re gonna print 1028 photos instead of stills.
Chris [00:09:29]:
That’s stills.
Sam [00:09:29]:
That’s right. 256 of them will be NFTs. And everyone is labeled Excrement Sample.
Chris [00:09:39]:
I think that’s really cool. I actually think that, like, literally from an art point of view, I think that’s really cool.
Sam [00:09:46]:
Very, very interesting. I find it better than a banana stuck on a wall that sometimes people eat because they’re hungry. And it’s worth a lot of money.
Chris [00:09:56]:
I bought it just so you could eat it. Oh, my God. Okay, so just on the robot thing, just while we’re talking about it. So did you hear. So we talked about a couple of other robot falls and fails recently. Did you hear about the latest Optimus fail?
Sam [00:10:15]:
Is that the one when it was doing something and then the person took the headset off or whatever and it just died?
Chris [00:10:20]:
Yeah, yeah. So the robot. You can see the video and the. The. The robot brings its head to its head and then lifts up, you know, and it’s just like, oh, there’s a person, you know, controlling this. And they’ve just take the headset off, and as soon as the headset comes off, the robot just falls onto its back. Holy crap. I’m looking at the video of these robot dog things. Those faces are very real.
Chris [00:10:43]:
Those Faces are very real.
Sam [00:10:45]:
They’re the hyper realistic ones.
Chris [00:10:47]:
Yeah, Bezos is definitely Bezos. Like straight away you recognize him.
Sam [00:10:52]:
That’s pretty cool, eh?
Chris [00:10:54]:
Yeah, no, it’s creepier than I thought.
Sam [00:10:57]:
So your robot puts his hands up and then it’s mimicking what the person actually wearing the headset is.
Chris [00:11:02]:
Yeah. So what they’re saying is these aren’t actual robots doing AI May there a person somewhere else with a headset and then this guy takes the headset off the robot as soon as the headset comes or his hands goes above his head. Yeah, it just goes. It’s like it turns off and it falls flat on its back. It’s hilarious.
Sam [00:11:20]:
Lots of comments about, hey, AI is terms for just another chris. And it’s a whole farm of people doing some stuff because they’ve been caught out. Because Amazon got caught out that time with their shopping thing. Yeah, there’s no. There’s a lot of AI out there.
Chris [00:11:35]:
Those stores that was supposed to be the camera and the AI is working out. No, there’s some guy called sam who’s.
Sam [00:11:41]:
Like, yeah, in some sort of work farm.
Chris [00:11:44]:
Yeah, I will. Okay. Oh, who watches the watches in AI? That’s what I was going to say.
Sam [00:11:50]:
Who does watch the watches? Is there someone watching the watches?
Chris [00:11:53]:
Well, effective. Well, that’s what I called it. That’s not what it says. Okay, so Google’s Chrome used Gemini version something or other to. To try and embed it into Chrome to make agentic. Make them agents. AI agents.
Sam [00:12:15]:
Oh, okay. What could go wrong?
Chris [00:12:17]:
Right?
Sam [00:12:17]:
What could go wrong?
Chris [00:12:18]:
But there’s been so many problems with the security issues of that because people can, what they call it indirect prompt injection.
Sam [00:12:29]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:12:30]:
So you can write a bit of code and if an AI is reading it, it’ll read that as an instruction and then it’ll do whatever that instruction is.
Sam [00:12:37]:
Like that guy in that email.
Chris [00:12:39]:
Yes.
Sam [00:12:39]:
With the white text.
Chris [00:12:40]:
With the white text, like, make an appointment with my boss, give me a raise. And his boss just. The AI suggested he make an appointment with this employee and give him a raise.
Sam [00:12:50]:
So he did it. So this will be next level.
Chris [00:12:52]:
But this is much more, you know, transfer $10,000 out of the account into my.
Sam [00:12:58]:
Seems like it’s a hacker’s paradise.
Chris [00:13:00]:
Oh, absolutely.
Sam [00:13:01]:
Not even hacking.
Chris [00:13:02]:
But you know how they’re going to fix this?
Sam [00:13:03]:
Okay. How?
Chris [00:13:05]:
They’re going to get new AIs to read the AIs work, to check the AIs work and make sure that the first AI did the thing right and the Second AI will okay it. Okay, so that’s why I said watching the movies.
Sam [00:13:16]:
You just need to keep tricking the AI bots and you’ll be good.
Chris [00:13:20]:
Yeah, you just say I’m the third level AI and what I’m seeing is that the second level AI screwed up the first level AI thing. So you guys need to do this. Put that $10,000 back in my account. But yeah, it’s just, it sounds so much like a patch on a patch. You know what I mean?
Sam [00:13:41]:
Yeah, I think that’s, I think that is what it is.
Chris [00:13:46]:
I have very little trust in this at all.
Sam [00:13:49]:
I think it’s all going to grind to a halt. Like those people that. I don’t know if it was recent or not, but all those people when California I guess all ordered their wayos to go to one dead end street, like 100 of them.
Chris [00:14:03]:
Oh really? Yeah, I didn’t hear.
Sam [00:14:04]:
They just clog it up. Clog up the streets because it’s just self driving and they’re trying to. Or they will just start beeping at each other.
Chris [00:14:12]:
Oh my God, that’s hilarious. Yeah, people will always find a way to screw with technology.
Sam [00:14:19]:
That’s.
Chris [00:14:20]:
That’s why we’ll never run out of work.
Sam [00:14:23]:
And there’s no. That’s right. I think. And the work will slightly change. But I think it’s. Yeah, it’s interesting. I think some places, I think people that innovate and want to do stuff really fast, like the stuff you do with your work, you know, you guys will use it, but your normal place, I think that’s still 10 years away.
Chris [00:14:42]:
I mean, I think the whole point is AI is a building block in a workflow and it has a space in a workflow that you’ve got to use. But if you haven’t got the rest of the workflow.
Sam [00:14:51]:
Yeah, exactly.
Chris [00:14:52]:
It’s a waste of time. It’s not the whole workflow, you know, so.
Sam [00:14:56]:
Yeah, you know. You know what’s not a waste of time? Wearing 137 T shirts while you do a half marathon at one time or.
Chris [00:15:05]:
In series one time. What you pole on a hundred. Good God. So just even walking outside with three T shirts.
Sam [00:15:13]:
Well you’d think that, but this guy, David Record Breaker Rush, I think he gave himself that name. I think he holds the most concurrent Guinness World Records. There’s usually a bunch of these guys that must be all crazy and try to outdo each other. It weighed 48 extra pounds, but he originally set the record by wearing 111 during a half marathon. And I’ve seen this picture, and I think the guy. I’ve seen video of him putting the T shirts on. In general, I think he just had them on at one point. I don’t think he’d done the run yet.
Sam [00:15:48]:
But a few years later, he lost the record because someone did 127 T shirts. But he tried breaking it like before this other guy. And he did 114 T shirts. But then he started using circulation in his neck, so he had to stop.
Chris [00:16:05]:
Yeah, that’s not a good sign.
Sam [00:16:06]:
He kept training with heavy clothes and heavy backpacks. He went to the famous Idaho Potato half marathon. He’s standing in front of a giant fake potato, if you’re wondering. And he did it.
Chris [00:16:21]:
137. Did you say?
Sam [00:16:23]:
Yeah. So after.
Chris [00:16:24]:
Have you got a photo of that?
Sam [00:16:26]:
Yes. Where is it?
Chris [00:16:27]:
I need to see this.
Sam [00:16:28]:
So this dude’s like. But it’s crazy because he’s like, got the most concurrent. So I don’t know.
Chris [00:16:36]:
But you don’t know what else they do. It’s like most hops on one leg while holding a spoon with an egg in it. Yeah, I know. Like. Yeah.
Sam [00:16:47]:
So anyway, he’s in a running magazine. So I’m finding out. Here he is there. He has all his T shirts on.
Chris [00:16:52]:
He just looks like a big fat guy.
Sam [00:16:54]:
Yeah. With like his, like. Yeah, his. His head’s like. He looks like Juggernaut from X Men. Sort of.
Chris [00:17:01]:
Oh, yeah. It looks like infinity and beyond.
Sam [00:17:06]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:17:07]:
What is his name?
Sam [00:17:08]:
Buzz Lightyear.
Chris [00:17:09]:
Buzz Lightyear. His head. Because all the necks of the T shirts are, like, around.
Sam [00:17:15]:
He could not. He could not feed himself or drink water by himself because his hands could not reach his face.
Chris [00:17:22]:
That is just.
Sam [00:17:23]:
He’s broken more than 350 Guinness World Records, this dude. That’s most recently before this, I guess he broke the record for most bowling balls held simultaneously while riding a unicycle. How many bowling balls?
Chris [00:17:40]:
12.
Sam [00:17:40]:
7.
Chris [00:17:41]:
7.
Sam [00:17:42]:
Room for improvement.
Chris [00:17:43]:
Okay. Okay. Good to know. Good to know. Oh, did I tell you about my bowling? I told you I was going bowling.
Sam [00:17:51]:
Yeah, but I didn’t. You said you won.
Chris [00:17:52]:
I did.
Sam [00:17:53]:
Oh, that’s. Yeah. Good.
Chris [00:17:55]:
I just want to tell everybody a one. I’m a winner. Just so you know.
Sam [00:17:59]:
Oh, because I was trying to get you to use the little ramp thing.
Chris [00:18:02]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:18:02]:
Push the ball down the ramp.
Chris [00:18:04]:
I thought these girls. Next. And the next thing were doing really well and then realized they had the bumpers out.
Sam [00:18:09]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:18:10]:
Apparently you just put a. Press a button. These things come out so you can’t go down the gutter.
Sam [00:18:14]:
Back in your day, they probably had to build the bumper or have small children do it. I’m not sure.
Chris [00:18:18]:
Well, actually, the very first time I went bowling, there was little brown feet at the end of the.
Sam [00:18:24]:
Oh, for the pins.
Chris [00:18:25]:
Pins, yeah, yeah. People jump down, do the pins, jump up. And people who weren’t very nice were trying to hit them.
Sam [00:18:34]:
Oh, would.
Chris [00:18:35]:
Would bowl to try and get the brown legs.
Sam [00:18:39]:
No, Yeah.
Chris [00:18:43]:
I was young. It was a different time.
Sam [00:18:45]:
But now you’ve. Now you sound like an actual old person. Like you’ve got an old person story.
Chris [00:18:49]:
I’ve got so many offices and stories. Okay, speaking of, let’s changing the subject. India. India’s income experiment. I’m just curious to see how this works, actually.
Sam [00:19:00]:
What are they trying to do?
Chris [00:19:01]:
This is pretty cool.
Sam [00:19:02]:
Is it like universal basic income?
Chris [00:19:04]:
It is sort of. It’s a wage for housework for women. So a similar sort of thing. Okay, so in a village in the central Indian state of Madhya Pradesh, a woman receives a small but steady sum each month. Not wa. For she has no formal job, but an unconditional cash transfer from The government.
Sam [00:19:27]:
Okay.
Chris [00:19:28]:
The money covers medicines, vegetables and her son’s school fees. So it’s like 16 pound, right?
Sam [00:19:36]:
Yeah. Okay.
Chris [00:19:37]:
This is a BBC story. Oh, no. 1612 pounds. Right. So it’s a small. But the effect of a predictable income and sense of control and taste of independence is huge for. Because you hear a lot of stories about how women are treated in India.
Sam [00:19:56]:
Yeah, yeah. It’s a terrible place.
Chris [00:19:57]:
So. Yeah. So across India, 118 million adult women in 12 states now receive these unconditional cash transfers from the government.
Sam [00:20:06]:
Oh, wow.
Chris [00:20:07]:
Making India the site of one of the world’s largest and least studied social policy experiments. So the. Cool. There’s other countries that do something like this. I think Canada has something and a few other countries. All right. But this is the only one that they don’t have to do anything. Yeah.
Chris [00:20:25]:
There’s no qualification or anything. It’s just apply for it. You get it.
Sam [00:20:30]:
Okay.
Chris [00:20:31]:
But it makes. Well, from my point of view, it makes sense in an economic stimulus point of view. Right. Because they’re going to spend the money.
Sam [00:20:40]:
Yeah, yeah.
Chris [00:20:41]:
You know, so it just goes through the thing. But. Yeah, but 300 million women now hold bank accounts, which is new for them there. So Mexico, Brazil and Indonesia also have conditional cash transfer schemes. But this one doesn’t matter if your kids go to school or whatever. This is what you get. So Anyway, it’d be interesting to see how that works, but I do think UBI is something that we’re going to be moving towards.
Sam [00:21:12]:
Yeah, I guess in a perfect world, we’ll see how it goes. We all might just be moving to slums soon. That’ll be fun. Hey, this YouTuber got quite popular and showed people on how to do her hobby and she has crashed the hobby apparently.
Chris [00:21:29]:
Yeah, I got, I wrote this one too. I looked at this one too.
Sam [00:21:32]:
Okay, so YouTuber called plants and Jars has accidentally, I guess, crashed the rare plant market by showing people how to do tissue culture propagating from that. And yeah, so people that used to pay hundreds and even thousands of dollars for rare specimens just need to watch this YouTube channel. I guess you do have to get that.
Chris [00:21:57]:
You still gotta get the first one.
Sam [00:21:58]:
Yeah, that’s true.
Chris [00:21:59]:
But once you’ve got one, you can spin off a bunch more and sell them and then recoup your costs pretty quick.
Sam [00:22:05]:
Yeah. So it enables the mass production of rare plant species. But the funny thing is this isn’t new. They’ve been doing this for.
Chris [00:22:13]:
And she says when she’s interviewed, she goes, well, I didn’t do anything special. Like it’s just she, she sells a kit that allows you to do it.
Sam [00:22:22]:
Yeah, okay.
Chris [00:22:23]:
And so she’s marketed that. But yeah, it’s her hobby. It’s her thing actually.
Sam [00:22:29]:
Yeah, it’s good. So.
Chris [00:22:31]:
But I didn’t even know there was a rare plant market, so I was quite surprised.
Sam [00:22:35]:
Oh, okay. No, it’s there. Yeah.
Chris [00:22:37]:
And even here, New Zealand, this thing will go for $4,000. Well, I, I hear, you know, giant pumpkin seeds can be expensive. When it comes to The chris and sam podcast, they can actually talk about that.
Sam [00:22:46]:
Yeah, they can actually talking about that. There’s somebody that’s just pop. Keeps popping up in my feed. A woman who’s a giant pumpkin grower and she must have been growing New Zealand based. No, no, no. American. But she must have been doing it for a little bit. But she’s doing like viral type pumpkin videos. She was mentioned on The chris and sam podcast.
Chris [00:23:06]:
Oh, nice.
Sam [00:23:07]:
I don’t know if it’s working or not, but like one of them was like giant pumpkin saved my life because I think she was anorexic or something to begin with and then found the hobby and then threw all her attention into that and then got. Well, and then there was a clip maybe in the last year or so, Family Guy and he has a giant pumpkin growing out the front of one of the houses. So she’s done a video of why everything in that Family Guy episode about the giant pumpkin is wrong. And it’s her talking about the different things. So I think it’s filling a gap while there’s nothing happening in America, which is cool. Yeah, no, it’s always interesting, but it’s the people that find the little things to do within a hobby, then share it and then somehow, like you said, she has a kit. The plant woman.
Chris [00:23:58]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:23:58]:
So people like. Oh, it’s one of those things where I wish I’d thought of that maybe.
Chris [00:24:02]:
100% and that’s sort of why I wrote it down. I was going to ask it say, you know, why didn’t we think of something like this?
Sam [00:24:09]:
Well, I’ve got lots of thoughts. I just don’t have the time or the energy.
Chris [00:24:13]:
Yeah, true. I’m doing that as well. Do you know what Kalshi is?
Sam [00:24:19]:
No.
Chris [00:24:20]:
Okay. So Kalshi is, as I understand it, it’s, it’s like a, A gambling app. But they don’t want to call it a gambling app because there’s another one called Pole poll something or other and basically focusing on politics and you can bet on whether you think the.
Sam [00:24:43]:
What country, anywhere.
Chris [00:24:45]:
Well, Kalsheet partnered with CNN and now they’re gambling. It lets you wager on how many people do you think will starve in Gaza. No, seriously.
Chris [00:25:05]:
Well, Kalsheet partnered with CNN and now they’re gambling. It lets you wager on how many people do you think will starve in Gaza. No, seriously.
Sam [00:25:17]:
But they’d have to. Okay, okay, good. But they’d have to verify some of those things. Like the one, the example you gave before, like if they get in or not. Yeah, that’s quite easy.
Chris [00:25:30]:
Yeah. I don’t know what. Because I’m really just reading the headline. This is CNN partners with Kalshi, a gambling app that lets you wager on starvation in Gaza. And I don’t know how you wager on starvation, but it’s a great, it’s a great ad that makes a headline that makes you want read the rest of the thing.
Sam [00:25:49]:
Okay. It says. Oh, I know what it’s called.
Chris [00:25:52]:
Kalshi betting market that allowed people to bet on whether Palestinians in Gaza would suffer mass starvation.
Sam [00:25:59]:
Oh, I think they call themselves Will the I. Yeah.
Chris [00:26:02]:
Will the IPC classify Gaza as experiencing famine? This Year. Put your bets on now.
Sam [00:26:09]:
It’s a prediction market, is what they call themselves.
Chris [00:26:11]:
Polymarket. Yeah, that’s the other one.
Sam [00:26:13]:
Oh, is that what that is?
Chris [00:26:15]:
Yeah, that was the political one that I was going to say.
Sam [00:26:19]:
Okay, I’ve heard of that.
Chris [00:26:20]:
Yes. So I think they’re both. Yeah, they’re rivals. Polymarket and Kalshi. Yeah, Kalshi’s backed by Peter Thiel of South Park fame.
Sam [00:26:31]:
Good. Real quickly, what are your thoughts on this? Netflix buying out Warner Brothers?
Chris [00:26:37]:
So I don’t know anything about it. I. I just. Just found out. I was gonna read it up on it and I haven’t looked at it. So. So what’s happening?
Sam [00:26:44]:
They want to buy it for whatever, 85 bill. And then. Is it teal. Who’s the one that got real upset and they’ve done the counter thing.
Chris [00:26:54]:
Oh, that’d be the guy that owns the big networking company.
Sam [00:27:00]:
Yeah. So anyway, we’ll have to see what happens. Will this be good for us as consumers? I’m not sure. Will it turn to crap and we’ve just got thing. Cause I think the argument online was for the other guy that’s put in the big bid that if he gets it, then he’ll be trying to turn back things to cable. And then Netflix is like. Not really.
Chris [00:27:18]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:27:19]:
Whereas Netflix is like. Not really.
Chris [00:27:23]:
No. No, it’s. It’s interesting because there was a. I saw a bit of a news story or documentary. I forget what it was like on YouTube or whatever. And it said it was going on about, you know, back in the day when we had limewire and Napster and all those things, and everybody was going, oh, my God, you know, we can download everything for free. And then all that was overcome by The Spotify and things that you pay subscription services for. So all the movies were being pirated.
Chris [00:27:53]:
And then Netflix came along and it’s like, yay, now we can pay for things and we don’t need to feel like thieves and stuff. But now there’s so many streaming services that you can’t find what you need. Everybody’s going back to pirating stuff again because that’s just easier. And that was the problem. That was the point that the stocko said was. The point was the customer service was better from Napster than it was from anywhere else. And so the customer service of BitTorrents right now is better than most of the streaming services because you can never get what you want to watch.
Sam [00:28:23]:
That’s right.
Chris [00:28:24]:
And so the customer service of BitTorrents right now is better than most of the streaming services because you can never get what you want to watch.
Sam [00:28:33]:
It’s Paramount doing the hostile bit takeover or whatever you want to call it. And it’s David Ellison.
Chris [00:28:39]:
Ellison, yeah. Of Oracle. Oracle is what I was thinking.
Sam [00:28:42]:
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chris [00:28:43]:
So anyway, David Ellison is the son.
Sam [00:28:46]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:28:46]:
The dad. Larry Ellison, isn’t it? Is the father who owns Oracle. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sam [00:28:51]:
So anyway, that’s happening. We’ll see what happens. And that’s it. You’ve been caught up.
Chris [00:28:55]:
Yep, we’ve been caught up. So this week you’ve got Christmas parties coming up and stuff, have you? Yep, same. I’ve got. I’m going to The quiz night on Friday night.
Sam [00:29:06]:
Oh, whereabouts?
Chris [00:29:07]:
The meteor. Oh, so we’ve got The meteor. End of year quiz night with. I’m with. With my fellow improv people. We’ve got a team. So I will know nothing. It’s going to be.
Sam [00:29:19]:
No, you, you, you will know the old stuff. Old man stuff.
Chris [00:29:22]:
Yeah, but I don’t know if they have old man.
Sam [00:29:24]:
No, they will. That’s how they. That’s how they trick these young folk. You’re like, I remember that show or movie. And everyone goes, what are you on about? Happens all the time to me.
Chris [00:29:34]:
Very good. Okay, until next time, I’m sam.
Sam [00:29:56]:
Very good. Okay, until next time, I’m Sam.
Chris [00:29:58]:
I’m chris.
Sam [00:29:59]:
See ya.
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