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Chris talks to Tadhg about Tigerdrops and the bigger picture when it comes to products like these in New Zealand.
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Chris [00:00:21]:
Okay, and Sam and I are standing here looking at probably the most interesting stand I’ve seen for a bit. Tigerdrops, precious oil, hemp, CBG. But what really stands out are the boys. And what are your names?
Tadhg [00:00:38]:
Tadhg and Christopher.
Chris [00:00:40]:
Tadhg and Christopher. And these guys have got the most amazing hemp looking suits. I don’t know how else to describe that. Hemp suits? Yeah. And the tie. It’s amazing.
Tadhg [00:00:55]:
You’ve got to represent when you’re working with a stigmatized plant. We have to fuck a mana. We have to make mana. We have to bring respect to the plant, which so many people actually are afraid of because they have been lied to. And really, it’s anti competitive practices. In the 16 hundreds, we knew more about cannabis than the public knows today. In the 18 hundreds, the public knew more about cannabis than they knew today. In the 19 hundreds, the public knew more about cannabis than they knew today. Why? Because for the last hundred years, we’ve been told the opposite of the truth.
Chris [00:01:39]:
Right. Have you seen the hemp reno? It’s in the innovation tent. And they’ve been using hemp plants of.
Tadhg [00:01:46]:
Fiber and hemp mix. I have not. But hemp is a strategic resource food, top quality food. Essential fatty acids, protein, amazing fiber, top quality fiber, also top quality chemical feedstock. Amazing medicine. Medicine is where we start to come to the grunty, political, complicated bit. Right. Because forget medicine. It’s a vegetable. Right. But this vegetable is a prohibited food, which they’ve made a pharmaceutical.
Chris [00:02:24]:
Yeah, okay, I can go with that. So what is it that you’ve got here? This tiger drops. Holy hemp.
Tadhg [00:02:33]:
Yeah. Well, we’re activists, both of us had it a long time. Now I have a social enterprise called the hemp foundation. And with that, I spent 40 grand teaching doctors for free, wrote the first course in New Zealand for doctors on cannabis as a medicine, which was approved by the college of GPS and have a year 13 unit. Year 13 biology unit as well, for secondary school students. I’m a history teacher myself. You can see here Jesus healing the blind under the cannabis tree in a mosaic from a thousand year old Catholic cathedral of cannabis built by a king and blessed by three popes. Interesting, eh?
Chris [00:03:13]:
Yeah. I’m not religious myself, I will admit.
Tadhg [00:03:15]:
But I went to a school full of paedophiles. Okay, so churches have done a lot to give themselves a bad name, but at the end of the day, religions are built upon social wisdom. How institutions use that wisdom to manipulate people is a different thing to the social wisdom that our histories offer us as a gift.
Chris [00:03:41]:
Cool. So you’re here with these drops and as activists. So what is it that you’re hoping to get out of field? Days for you. And have you done the Field Days thing before?
Tadhg [00:03:59]:
I was here at Field Days last year. Well, I’m hoping to avoid bankruptcy at this point. Yeah. So the Hemp Foundation is, as I said, enormously expensive teaching for free. So the idea with Tiger Drops is to connect people with a product that helps them to understand the plants a bit better and to fund the activism. So these are world leading products that we’re offering at world beating prices as well. So we have here the Canna cosmetics. So these are cannabinoid containing cosmetics. We have here the balms, the Hemp balm with extracts.
Chris [00:04:36]:
And what would you use the balm for?
Tadhg [00:04:38]:
So the Balm, legally, we can say that people can use them as cosmetics.
Chris [00:04:45]:
Got you.
Tadhg [00:04:46]:
That’s what we can do with the oils here. These are prohibited foods. Like, they’re legal foods for nearly a billion people, but in New Zealand, they’re prohibited foods. So we can’t legally recommend anybody put these oils under their tongue to be absorbed by the soft tissues. We can’t legally recommend they start with a couple of drops morning and night, and we can’t legally recommend they add a couple more every three to five days. So we don’t so don’t ask us.
Chris [00:05:14]:
Right. Got it.
Tadhg [00:05:15]:
We also don’t make any claims for anxiety, stress, depression, pain, sleep, mood disorders like bipolar menopause, endometriosis, IBS, IBD, Crohn’s disease, bone density, modulation, restlessly, neuroprotection, inflammation, muscle relaxation or a range of cancers. They are available as holy hemp oils in accordance with Scripture for anointing your precious objects and making them sacred good. Also available as novelty cannabis collectibles. Get the whole set.
Chris [00:05:45]:
Okay, that sounds pretty cool. And do you think that we’re going to have a change in the law around this anytime soon?
Tadhg [00:05:55]:
So I’ve been doing this seven years. I have boxes and boxes and boxes of Official Information Act requests, and it’s very, very obvious that Red, Blue and the medicines regulator Medsafe have worked in collusion to deny us foods with health benefits. The food regulator in 2016 could see no reason to deny the public access to foods that were rich in CBD. No reason because of its safety and benefit. But it acknowledged that the ministerial forum had requested it to set a really low limit of CBD in foods, to, quote, distinguish between a food and a therapeutic good. That means the politicians had asked the food regulator to restrict the amount of CBD and food so that people could not have a food with health benefits. So that people would have to go through a medical system, a pharmaceutical system that would reduce their access, maximize their expense and retard the progress to the public of this category. And they actually had to go and create a legal lie because the government’s own laboratory, ESR, was jumping up and down saying CBD is not a controlled drug. Their own internal advice was saying, CBD is not a controlled drug, but Medsafe had to make it a controlled drug to give the food regulator a legal reason to stop us having CBD foods. And that’s what they did.
Chris [00:07:34]:
So my understanding, and I know nothing really, but is that it would have to be a substance that you could overdose on. Can you overdose on CBD?
Tadhg [00:07:45]:
You cannot. The Misuse of Drugs Act, which they always quote at us, right? Something must have a high to very high or moderate risk of harm to individuals or society. As the food regulator said. In this instance, CBD is safe, well tolerated, and has beneficial properties. Cannabinoids are the single safest, therapeutic class of molecules that we know of, because, like, your house has a WiFi system, right? When the WiFi drops out, it’s not good. We have metaphorically, a WiFi system in our body, and it’s called our cannabinoid system. And your cannabinoid system uses cannabinoids instead of WiFi. We make more than 60 hemp cannabis. The vegetable makes more than 200, which is why throughout human history, every culture that has had access to it and that has understood it has held it as sacred.
Chris [00:08:56]:
Okay, I’m learning a lot here. This is really good. So a few years ago, we had a referendum about legalizing cannabis. Yes.
Tadhg [00:09:06]:
That was a scam. So when they told us they were legalizing medical cannabis, what they actually did was they actually broke the hemp regulations, which enabled hemp farmers to make any product of hemp. And they made it so that only pharmaceutical companies could make any product of hemp. So far from legalizing medical cannabis, what they actually did was drove the final nail in the coffin on denying us functional foods, nutraceuticals foods with health benefits that farmers could grow, that farmers could make into products, and that farmers could sell directly to the public. And they’re all guilty. Red, blue, and the Ministry.
Chris [00:09:51]:
So because we’re in an agricultural space here at the moment, will farmers able to grow this sort of stuff for their livestock or that sort of it is forbidden.
Tadhg [00:10:08]:
It is forbidden to feed in New Zealand. It is forbidden to feed hemp to animals, even though it’s well established that it will calm them, settle the it makes better quality eggs, it increases your milk output. Yeah, no, it’s forbidden. Which countries are doing hemp? Right, good question. Arguably, no one’s doing it perfectly, but there’s yeah. Oh, look, colorado. There’s amazing work happening in Colorado. Amazing work happening in Oregon. The Swiss are leading the way in ways as well, on a different way. Like, the Spanish and the Portuguese have freed it for the public. Much more of a human rights and more of a socially responsible way. Whereas in New Zealand, we really seem to be driven by a specifically corporate pharmaceutical market. Controlling, like, public servants have a duty of stewardship, and everything that’s been done in this space has been anti stewardship. Anti it public.
Chris [00:11:17]:
Yeah. No, absolutely. I get you there. All right? I had better. There’s a big crowd of people starting to form around me and I’m feeling self conscious, so we’re going to leave that there. It’s been great talking to you, and thanks, Sam.
Tadhg [00:11:31]:
Lovely. You’re very welcome. Have a great day.
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