Summary
Sam hits up the New Zealand Motorhome and Caravan Show, while Chris narrowly dodges a bout of sickness with questionable remedies.
We hear about Sam’s epic six-hour power cut saga, a remarkable breakthrough in Huntington’s disease treatment, and the opening of a massive time capsule in Nebraska.
There’s also talk of odd public statues, stolen Graceland, and why ads might soon invade your fridge. All this and plenty of random banter in this week’s episode!
Links
Huntington’s Disease treated for the first time
Last Words of a President
50 year old time capsule opened
Statue outside the Whitehouse
Grifter tries to claim Graceland
Samsung Fridge Ads
Show Transcript
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Sam [00:00:10]:
Hello and welcome to episode 550 of the Christ and Sam Podcast.
Chris [00:00:26]:
I’m Chris.
Sam [00:00:27]:
And I’m Sam. Welcome along to your weekly fix of random technology and life. And this feels like a partial milestone. Maybe that’s it. That’s it. We’re celebrated at 550. I don’t know. 550-550.
Sam [00:00:39]:
How’s your week been?
Chris [00:00:40]:
Pretty good. I’m trying not to be sick and I’m eating lots and lots of garlic and somebody from work came around and gave me lemons and oranges. So I’m squeezing lemons and putting it with alcohol. Sounds good.
Sam [00:00:55]:
Okay.
Chris [00:00:56]:
Pretty sure that’s how colds work.
Sam [00:00:58]:
Well for you. They do. I was gonna say, I don’t know if your body’s gonna be able to handle that much vitamin C. That’s true.
Chris [00:01:04]:
That’s true.
Sam [00:01:06]:
What’s been up with you since last time I saw you? I have been to the New Zealand Motorhome and Caravan show.
Chris [00:01:13]:
Ooh, did you buy one?
Sam [00:01:17]:
No, no. There’s some very expensive pieces of gear there. This was at Mystery Creek. It ran from Friday to Sunday. We went Friday. They have a very, very niche, narrow target audience. Yeah, boomers. And a lot of them all look the same.
Sam [00:01:42]:
Very. Yes. So like, so, so specific. So looking the same that at one point I said, there is no diversity here whatsoever. And the one piece of diversity was the guy that was working for a company that changed tyres. That was it.
Chris [00:02:02]:
Oh my gosh, that’s hilarious. It’s funny too, because I was talking to one of the TEDx speakers. I was coaching. Tonight’s our first night this week. I haven’t had a coaching call. And. Yeah, and she’s like, oh. We had a few drinks with some friends and I ended up buying a motorhome.
Chris [00:02:22]:
Oh, okay.
Sam [00:02:23]:
There are a few. Yeah, like there’s a random guy in another department. He went and brought one. But he fits the demographic.
Chris [00:02:29]:
Yeah, he fits the demographic as well.
Sam [00:02:31]:
Yep. Yeah, totally. So there’s a lot of very expensive stuff there. There was some cool companies I’ve never heard of that were doing a lot of battery technology or inverter stuff. Really nice looking stuff. And it like in one of their displays they had like a little two, two burner flat cooker thing. So it was like almost induction top, but it was being powered by the batteries. And this woman walks past because this very slim targeted demographic don’t like what they don’t like.
Sam [00:03:03]:
And she looked at it and she goes, like, hell, I’m gonna use one of those. So anyway, there was like these random outbursts and then there was like, you know, a caravan that was over $200,000. And they were just like, what? They were enraged. I think if I yelled out, where’s Jacinda? That might have set the few off.
Chris [00:03:28]:
Oh, my God.
Sam [00:03:29]:
And then what happened was I’ve got a couple of these lifestyle tents, very similar to Field days, slightly different products. Some products were the same, but these people, all these old people were wandering around with little tubs of ice cream and some of these older people couldn’t open their tubs of ice cream or they were walking around with them the whole time. So I don’t know what they were expected to do with this melted cup of ice cream. But anyway, Blue Ridge, the. You know, the fairy people that get you across the Cook Strait, they were there and you went in the draw to win $1,000 worth of travel with them. And you got this little ice cream and you got a doormat. A very, very colourful. Yeah, I won’t go get it.
Sam [00:04:15]:
I’ll just show you a photo on my phone. We’ll have it up in the show notes. It’s a very colorful doormat that they created to give to people, which has motorhomes, a caravan and a Blue Ridge Ferry in the background.
Chris [00:04:27]:
Oh, wow. That’s pretty cool, actually. It looks like a postcard. Like old school. Old school, yeah.
Sam [00:04:32]:
Yeah. But it’s a doormat, so we got. Yeah, got one of those. So that was all right. It was all right. It was good seeing the stuff. I do not understand how some of the pricing works even within the same brand. And I didn’t really want to talk to anyone.
Sam [00:04:44]:
But they’ll have a smaller caravan that’s $50,000 more than a way bigger one. So I guess it’s kitted out with fancier stuff. There was a guy there, they had this retro, retro area. And they had all these old caravans, original ones from wherever. And there was a guy there and he had a YouTube sign on it. I better give him a shout out, actually. Cause I did yak to him for a little bit. And his.
Sam [00:05:10]:
I don’t even know what his name was, but anyway, his YouTube channel, so. New Zealand Caravans Restoration. Go check that out. He restores caravans. This is his fifth one. He said the biggest thing was people don’t understand that. It’s like doing a little piece of work at A time it all comes together like a jigsaw puzzle. And I said, is there heaps of old caravans out there? And he goes, oh, there’s heaps of half finished ones out there.
Sam [00:05:34]:
Like you can find heaps of half finished projects. It’s great. I was like, oh, okay, cool. And he said the biggest problem was the model that he was working on that he had at the show. It looked real beautiful. He finds it really, really hard in New Zealand to find original photos of how it was set up.
Chris [00:05:50]:
Oh, I see. Yeah.
Sam [00:05:52]:
Anyway, that was that. And then on Saturday we had a power cut for six hours.
Chris [00:05:57]:
Oh, that sucks.
Sam [00:05:58]:
No, it gets worse. So there’s no power. Took a while for me to figure this out because I thought for some reason our kitchen is on a circuit with a RCD breaker behind the tv, so that’s tripped before and only the kitchen goes out. Anyway, I figured out there was no power. I rang up the power company one networks and I said, I’ve got no power. And they’re like, okay, we’ve got nothing happening in the area, but we’ll send a faultman out. I was, okay. So this dude turned up, I went down to talk to him and he goes, oh, yep, there’s a service pillar and it’s mounted out the side and that’s not good.
Sam [00:06:34]:
So he said, I’ll replace that should be all good. I was like, sweet.
Chris [00:06:38]:
It was only your house that didn’t affect anybody else.
Sam [00:06:42]:
Yes. When I say my house, I mean very specifically the piece I live in. Not the person that lives under my lounge and not the guy that lives on the driveway.
Chris [00:06:50]:
Oh, wow.
Sam [00:06:51]:
Just our house. But when he replaced the pillar, he rung me and he says, this is a bigger problem. He goes, you do not have power coming to your pillar. So there’s a, there’s a cable fault. We have to get the test van and we’ve got to bring cable jointers out. Yeah, Like I said, everybody else had power except for where I live. And then so that. Yeah, so they were roaming around like.
Chris [00:07:15]:
Oh, ticket, you should buy a lotto ticket. Lucky guy.
Sam [00:07:18]:
Yeah, they were roaming around outside for a while and they found the fault two houses away on the footpath. So they dug that up, did something, and the power came back on at like 9 o’ clock that night.
Chris [00:07:32]:
It’s easy to go about how bad that is, but it’s also pretty cool that they did that within, you know, within a day.
Sam [00:07:41]:
Oh, yeah, they’re really onto it with that sort of stuff.
Chris [00:07:43]:
You know, we’re very lucky. I, I remember when I lived in Gibraltar and Gibraltar was, is what, 3km by 5km? Some stupid small amount of size like that.
Sam [00:07:56]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:07:56]:
There’s 30,000, 34,000 people there. This is in the early 90s. And we built a, an extension on a house.
Sam [00:08:07]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:08:07]:
And they, they said, oh yeah, we’ll get the, we’ll get the phone company to put a phone in. I was like, oh, yeah, I knew it was Bell, like at and T. Bell type thing.
Sam [00:08:16]:
Okay.
Chris [00:08:17]:
And he goes, yeah, it’s six months wait for a phone to be installed. What the hell? Like, what, what are you talking about?
Sam [00:08:27]:
They’ve got all that work jacked up for half a year before they even get round to you. There’s no rush. There’s no rush.
Chris [00:08:33]:
It’s crazy. And then, then I came back to New Zealand not long after that and I got a, you know, a council flat and they put the phone in the next day and I was just like, this is amazing. Because that’s better than UK at that time. Like, way better. And of course now, because this was all pre mobile phone, now that’s not an issue, but still. Okay. All right. I wanted to talk about this.
Chris [00:08:58]:
So one of the people I work with was very excited about this. So there’s a story. This is. I’m looking at the BBC. Huntington’s disease has successfully been treated for the first time.
Sam [00:09:14]:
Okay. And. Okay.
Chris [00:09:16]:
Do you know much about Huntington’s?
Sam [00:09:17]:
I thought I did, but then I realized I probably don’t.
Chris [00:09:20]:
It’s. So one of my friends died of it and this person from work, her husband has it. Has the gene.
Sam [00:09:28]:
Okay.
Chris [00:09:28]:
So yeah, if he gets it or not. So it’s a genetic disease. If one of your parents has Huntington’s, you’ve got a 50% chance of getting it.
Sam [00:09:38]:
Yeah. Okay.
Chris [00:09:39]:
Or suffering from it. Yeah. I think you get the gene and you still have the recessed gene, even if it doesn’t do anything to you. But it’s pretty good through to about 20, 30. 20 year old. 30 year old.
Sam [00:09:53]:
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Chris [00:09:54]:
Up until that period. Then it starts doing something in your brain and starts off with symptoms a little bit like Parkinson’s.
Sam [00:10:04]:
Yes.
Chris [00:10:05]:
And then there’s a whole. And dementia, Parkinson’s, motor neuron, all that sort of thing.
Sam [00:10:10]:
Okay.
Chris [00:10:11]:
Then it rapidly deteriorates, I guess. Yeah, it deteriorates. It’s pretty bad. So David.
Sam [00:10:19]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:10:19]:
Died. He. He was really fit when I first met him, you know, and then he, he got pretty sick. One of the terrible side effects is that it makes you start acting inappropriately.
Sam [00:10:33]:
Oh, right. Okay.
Chris [00:10:35]:
Literally a, A, a diagnosed side effect which did not go down well with his wife and stuff. So. Yeah, anyway, it’s, it’s a horrible disease. So there’s been. No, there’s a Huntington’s association and stuff like that. They’ve been trying to find stuff for ages.
Sam [00:10:55]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:10:55]:
So what they’ve got here, this, it’s a new treatment, It’s a type of gene therapy.
Sam [00:11:01]:
Oh yeah.
Chris [00:11:03]:
It takes 12 to 18 hours of delicate brain surgery.
Sam [00:11:08]:
Oh, wow. Okay, okay, okay.
Chris [00:11:11]:
So Professor Tabrizi, director of the University College London Huntington Disease center, described the results from this particular test or this, you know, this paper or whatever he’s done as spectacular. We never in our wildest dreams would have expected a 75% slowing of clinical progression. So that means like the deterioration you would have in one year is now what you’d have in four years, which is pretty impressive.
Sam [00:11:41]:
That’s crazy.
Chris [00:11:42]:
Yeah, yeah. So it’s, it’s not a cure, but it’ll really slow things down, which could be great. So let me see here. I’ve got some notes here. So what they’re doing is that what, what Huntington does is it turns a normal protein to which is needed in the brain into a killer of neurons. So it goes rogue and it starts killing neurons. It’s actually killing the brain. So what the therapy they’re using is cutting edge genetic medicine, combining gene therapy and gene silencing technologies.
Chris [00:12:18]:
So they basically put the. A virus. Using a case of a virus, they put some DNA, a little bit of DNA that does a RNA messenger. I’m probably getting all this wrong, but they inject it into your brain and it creates this little, you know, a good gene factory in your brain which just, you know, gets these, creates more and more of these good genes that block the, the silencing part of the, the old genes. So yeah, it’s the, the worst thing about it. Well, this is great. There’s some good stuff. They’re really impressed with everything.
Chris [00:13:06]:
Approximately. So this is in the UK. Approximately 75,000 people have Huntington’s disease in the UK, US and Europe.
Sam [00:13:13]:
Oh, okay. Yep.
Chris [00:13:15]:
Hundreds of thousands carrying the mutation, meaning that they’ll will at some point stage develop the disease, but it will be expensive. So there is an official price for the drug. Gene therapies are often pricey, but their long term impact means they can still be affordable. In the UK, the NHS does pay for a 2.6 million per patient gene therapy for hemophilia B, which is similar to what they expect it to be. So £2.6 million.
Sam [00:13:49]:
Yeah. Okay.
Chris [00:13:51]:
That’s probably 5 million New Zealand dollars, at least.
Sam [00:13:54]:
Yep.
Chris [00:13:55]:
Yeah. So. But. But it’s got to start somewhere, right? And. Yeah, anyway, it’s good news. So I was saying to my friend who’s worried about her husband, I was like, you know, it’s not there, but you’ve woken up with the possibility today that wasn’t a possibility yesterday. Good news.
Sam [00:14:16]:
Yes, it is. Hopefully they, you know, it comes down and more people can obviously get the benefits from that. Did you see the. The last words of the first Czechoslovakian president?
Chris [00:14:30]:
No.
Sam [00:14:32]:
So basically, the first president of Czechoslovakia wrote a letter three days before he died a while back.
Chris [00:14:41]:
All right.
Sam [00:14:42]:
The person who had the letter referred to as the secretary to the president. Sorry, secretary to the president’s son, handed the letter over to the archive people and casually mentioned that they should wait 20 years because you’re just not ready for this. Amazing. You’re not prepared to read them yet. You gotta wait 20 years. And they did. They realized that that’s 2025. And they had a live screening of this.
Sam [00:15:13]:
Like, they opened it in front of a TV thing and.
Chris [00:15:16]:
And they just read it out with that. Oh, my God. Okay. All right.
Sam [00:15:20]:
And they just realized that there was nothing special in it at all. It was just some rambling things. He made a dig at his other. His political opponent back in the day. And the woman’s face of just, what the hell’s going on at this event is just great. And then. Oh, no, no, no. That’s it for that thing.
Chris [00:15:45]:
I’ll tell you one, because it just reminds me of that. And I really haven’t got much past the headline. I just thought it was funny. Israel’s going to be looking to defund the Israeli Film Festival. What’s the film festival called? The.
Sam [00:16:06]:
I’m not sure.
Chris [00:16:07]:
Threatening to pull funding for the ofer. Ophir. I think Ophir is, how you say it, awards Israel’s version of the Oscars after a film critiquing Israel won top prize. The Sea About Gaza, Palestine won top prize this year. And apparently that’s upsetting to the Israeli government. Who. Who would guess?
Sam [00:16:33]:
Who would guess?
Chris [00:16:34]:
But I’m pretty impressed that they actually voted that in and it won. That tells you something about the, you know, the citizens versus the government in terms of Israel, I think.
Sam [00:16:48]:
But, yeah, they’ve failed in Nebraska. This is unrelated to what you just said, but they’ve just opened the world’s largest time capsule.
Chris [00:16:59]:
Oh, okay.
Sam [00:17:00]:
50 years after it was sealed up in 1975, it has thousands of letters, pit rocks, artwork, a teal suit, and even a Chevy Vega car, all preserved inside this capsule. The this is a culmination of 50 years of planning, says Trish Davison Johnson on part of her dad. Because he wanted to do it for his grandchildren to remember his life in 1975. And he did everything big in his life, but it was a logistical feat. He had to figure out how to have ventilation in this giant pit in the ground full of stuff so it wouldn’t get moisture. And he figured that out. And there was stuff in there, like 3,000 people left letters and packages to themselves. They left it to the grandchildren and all sorts.
Sam [00:17:53]:
Some items have fared better than others. And it said in 1983, they lost, they learned that they lost the world record from the World Record Academy, which I assume was before Guinness, that it wasn’t the largest. So he built a pyramid on top to claim the thing. Cause when you see a photo, there’s this weird pyramid, white pyramid, and you’re like, why is that there? Yeah. So some stuff lasted a bit longer. The stuff that was wrapped in plastic seems to be pretty good. And they reckon about 80% of people will be able to get their stuff back. So that’s probably a logistical nightmare, trying to track people down maybe.
Sam [00:18:29]:
And I think, do you know how many years we’ve gotta wait until that one near the river is ready from where we used to live, around the corner from Radnor?
Chris [00:18:37]:
No, I don’t know. I don’t know. Does it say in the, the plaque on it?
Sam [00:18:42]:
It does. I just can’t remember. I’ve got a funny feeling it does.
Chris [00:18:45]:
But I can’t remember.
Sam [00:18:46]:
I’ve got a funny feeling it might be another five or 10 years.
Chris [00:18:48]:
Yeah, it’ll be a while. It’ll be a while.
Sam [00:18:50]:
Yeah. And it’ll just be like, I hate to think what’s on that.
Chris [00:18:53]:
I, I, I’m a bit fascinated with the, the U.S. we’re not going to talk about Jimmy Kimmel or anything else.
Sam [00:19:01]:
I thought you were going to talk about the bronze statues.
Chris [00:19:04]:
Okay, I’ve missed that one.
Sam [00:19:05]:
Oh, come on. How do you not know this stuff?
Chris [00:19:07]:
I’m so ahead of me on everything these days.
Sam [00:19:10]:
So these two large statues of Jeffrey Epstein holding hands with Donald Trump have been erected and stood up in front across the road, basically from the White House. They’re looking at, they’re looking at each other lovingly. They’re holding hands and they’re on one leg each to paint a picture.
Chris [00:19:32]:
Oh my God, that sounds awesome. I’m gonna have to.
Sam [00:19:36]:
And they’ve got quotes from the, you know, creepy letters that they used to send to each other. At the bottom, you know, and it says, in honor of Friendship Month, we celebrate the long lasting bond between President Donald J. Trump and his closest friend, Jeffrey Epstein. And it says at the bottom it’s got the hands doing the heart symbol. And at the bottom it says voiceover. There must be more to life than.
Chris [00:19:55]:
Having everything just found that it’s. Holy shit.
Sam [00:19:59]:
But they’ve removed them. That’s what happened. And they’re not following any protocols around that. So apparently they have to. So they, so they got sign off from this, from whoever gives them sign off to say they’re allowed to do this and install it. If the government or whoever doesn’t like it, they have to give 24 hours notice to the people to say you have to remove it. Because for whatever reason, you might be breaking a bylaw, I guess. And they haven’t done that.
Sam [00:20:26]:
It’s just disappeared. And the government, I guess, White House is like, we don’t know where they’ve gone. So somebody got upset. Some, maybe some orange based man.
Chris [00:20:35]:
Yeah, yeah. And, and it’s not like, you know, they, they wouldn’t have like all24 7 security footage outside. No, you know, like the White House or anything like that. It’s not like that there’s any way they could tell what happened to it.
Sam [00:20:53]:
No. So anyway, that’s what’s been happening. What are you on about with the lovely America?
Chris [00:20:58]:
I, I just, I just love the way they think big in the States.
Sam [00:21:02]:
They definitely do.
Chris [00:21:04]:
They just think big. So Lisa Janine Finlay, who was 54.
Sam [00:21:11]:
Okay.
Chris [00:21:12]:
Who has gone by many other names in a criminal career spattered with financial grifts. Good was accused as posing as a bogus investor, claiming rights to the historic landmark that draws more than half a million dollar million visitors a year, which is the Graceland.
Sam [00:21:35]:
Oh, okay.
Chris [00:21:36]:
Elvis Presley’s Graceland.
Sam [00:21:38]:
So she’s trying to steal it.
Chris [00:21:39]:
Yep. She. She posted someone named Kurt Nasoni, an executive for a company that did not exist in 2020. July 2023, she started emailing lawyers for Presley’s granddaughter, who’d become the sole trustee and owner of Graceland following the death of her mother, Lisa Marie Presley.
Sam [00:22:00]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:22:00]:
Finley, pretending to be New Sunny, demanded payment on a 3.8 million loan she said Lisa Marie Presley had taken out in 2018, putting up Graceland as Collateral.
Sam [00:22:13]:
Okay, okay.
Chris [00:22:14]:
And her company filed papers asserting its rights to the home, which planned to unload in a foreclosure sale. All of this is totally untrue. Just, totally just make that shit up.
Sam [00:22:28]:
So. I know it’s batshit.
Chris [00:22:30]:
The documents, including the signatures of Lisa Marie Presley and a Florida notary, had nothing to do with the case were forged. But the case progressed until May 2024 when somebody sued to stop the foreclosure saying it was a scam. And the judge reviewed it and shut it down. So almost got done. So anyway, she’s finally been sentenced. What did she get for it? Said up the top there somewhere. 57 month prison term.
Sam [00:22:59]:
Oh, that should keep her. Yeah, yeah, that keep her quiet for a little bit.
Chris [00:23:03]:
Yeah, but I just cracks me up. It’s just because if you see a photo of her, she just looks like any old random.
Sam [00:23:14]:
Middle aged woman.
Chris [00:23:15]:
Four year old, white.
Sam [00:23:17]:
Hang on. You know who she looks like? Somebody at a motorhome and caravan show.
Chris [00:23:21]:
She does. Yes, she does. Yeah. She’s probably never heard of Jacinda Aden, but she, she would. Yeah, she looks like she’d scowl at, at the name.
Sam [00:23:32]:
Yeah, yeah, of course.
Chris [00:23:36]:
Oh, yeah, yeah. So that, that was, that was all I wanted to talk about with Ms. Finlay. Oh, I’ve got one here that I just put in because I knew it’d piss you off. Okay, well, because we’ve talked about these sorts of things before, it’s just going to get worse. Samsung has confirmed that on its $1800 plus fridges. And when they say $1800 plus, I’m assuming that’s a us.
Sam [00:24:07]:
Yeah, that’ll be us.
Chris [00:24:09]:
Yeah, they’re gonna start showing you ads. So the, the, the fridge has a big screen on it that you can put sticky notes on. You know, like.
Sam [00:24:18]:
I know it’s crazy. It’s crazy.
Chris [00:24:20]:
And you know that they’re gonna start showing you ads on that because you haven’t paid enough with eighteen hundred dollars just for a fricking fridge.
Sam [00:24:29]:
I think in the future you’re gonna have trouble finding things that don’t have ads baked into on them.
Chris [00:24:36]:
So what, what used to do that? Because there was a few movies back in the day and it’s just ads were everywhere. Blade Runner was one of them.
Sam [00:24:44]:
Yeah, Blade Runner. I’m gonna say Idiocracy’s got it everywhere. What about Total Recall? I think they had some ads.
Chris [00:24:52]:
They had some ads around and maybe oh, Minority Report where it read your eyes and it would.
Sam [00:25:00]:
That’s right.
Chris [00:25:01]:
Gain your eyes and then do a direct poster to you or whatever. Yeah.
Sam [00:25:05]:
What about Stallone and Sandra Bullock in Demolition Man? Demolition man, maybe. Not sure.
Chris [00:25:13]:
The seashells.
Sam [00:25:15]:
Yeah, always the seashells.
Chris [00:25:16]:
Seashells.
Sam [00:25:17]:
Very good.
Chris [00:25:18]:
Memory lane.
Sam [00:25:19]:
Memory lane, that’s right. So if you haven’t got your Misty flicks tickets yet and you want the festival pass, you got to get onto it. The early bird lasts for another week. Like, seriously, it’s best value. You get to go to panel discussions, you get to hang out with us. That’s probably not a bonus. You get to see all the features, all the shorts, challenge films, youth films. It’s three days.
Sam [00:25:43]:
Well, two full days, basically, and Friday night. I think it’s good value.
Chris [00:25:49]:
Yeah. Oh, 100%. And we won’t have any Palestinian films there.
Sam [00:25:58]:
We do get. Honestly, when you have a film festival, you get the randomest emails from people that are from those countries that are like, hey, can you help us out? They must be doing that all day long. Yeah, yeah. Like, they just must be submitting. They don’t submit. They just send an email and they sort of say, hey, can you. Can you help us out? Do this for free? And all this sort of stuff.
Chris [00:26:20]:
No, it’s fair enough. I. I’ve got one. One little thing I wanted to mention. And, and it’s. I. I read this story and I was like, not going to talk about this. And then one thing stood out to me and I was like, I’m just going to mention it because it just blows my mind.
Sam [00:26:33]:
Okay, so.
Chris [00:26:35]:
So this is in Lansing, usa, Michigan. Lansing, Michigan. So a parent is doing everything she can to get a son back in school here after he was expelled.
Sam [00:26:45]:
Okay.
Chris [00:26:46]:
And she said she. She thinks he was expelled for doing something she believes was heroic. And there’s a statement from the Lansing Board of Education that’s included in this article.
Sam [00:26:59]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:27:00]:
Which sort of says the other story is something different. So I’m like, I don’t know how heroic it was, but let’s. Let’s say. So basically, she reckons her son was punished for disarming another student, disassembling his gun and throwing. He took the gun apart and threw away the bullets.
Sam [00:27:23]:
Okay.
Chris [00:27:23]:
And he didn’t tell an adult till later because. And it doesn’t say why, but I’m going to assume it’s because you don’t want to be a snitch at school. Like, that’s just not cool.
Sam [00:27:35]:
I guess even I knew that.
Chris [00:27:37]:
I’ve never had to disarm anyone, disassemble their gun and throw away the bullets. In fact, if somebody gave me a gun and I tried to dissemble it, I would probably shoot my head off. Like, I wouldn’t know what I was doing.
Sam [00:27:50]:
Yeah, I was just thinking that without saying it.
Chris [00:27:53]:
Yeah, I know. How old is this kid, do you reckon?
Sam [00:27:56]:
Oh, hang on. Okay. The way you’ve just. Yeah, okay. He’s. He’s going to be seven.
Chris [00:28:00]:
No, it’s not that bad. But it’s bad enough he’s 11 years old.
Sam [00:28:04]:
11. That’s fine.
Chris [00:28:05]:
In my head, I was like 15. No, you know, 11 years old. So he’s like. He’s 11 years old. He’s never been in trouble before. But of course he’s expelled. He can’t go to school anymore.
Sam [00:28:18]:
No.
Chris [00:28:18]:
Well, that’s. That’s gonna help. Like, what the. That’s America. It’s just so annoying. We’ll. We’ll put the notes, the show notes, the link in the show notes so you can read it yourself. But I’m not saying the kid was right or wrong.
Chris [00:28:37]:
I don’t know. But just the fact that they have to live through that at 11 years old, it just blows my mind. Still.
Sam [00:28:46]:
Yeah. And with that, that brings us to the end of the podcast. Go check out tcasp.com for all the show notes, all the previous episodes, and some other little bonuses there.
Chris [00:28:56]:
Absolutely.
Sam [00:28:57]:
So until next time, I’m Sam.
Chris [00:28:59]:
I’m Chris.
Sam [00:29:00]:
See ya.
Chris [00:29:01]:
Bye.
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