Summary
Chris has his Haha Hamilton review this week and we find out who Mr 80k is.
Sam talks about Stockton Rush episode of behind the bastards podcast, everything you need to know about the inventor of the death sub. We also talk about a hybrid convert kit that blew up.
What do people think of AI? A poll has come out.
We wonder if the the safest places to survive a zombie apocalypse story is as accurate as it could be. We also talk about a cat taking out a large chunk of power out in napier.
Chris has a book review for Red Notice by Bill Browder and we talk about the BNZ bank scams going around currently.
All this and more so come check it out and tell a friend.
Links
Chris’s Newsletter
Behind the Bastards Podcast – Stockton Rush
Life Saves Hybrid Blew Up
The Verge – AI Poll
Safest Places in NZ to Survive a Zombie Apocalypse
Power Outage in Napier Caused by a Cat
Red Notice by Bill Browder
BNZ Scammers Going Hard
Show Transcript
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Sam [00:00:22]:
Hello, and welcome to episode 437 of the Chris and Sam podcast. I’m Chris. And I’m Sam. Welcome along to your weekly fix of randomness technology and life. maybe glitching out and us not realizing what that was.
Chris [00:00:37]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. us not realizing what day it was.
Sam [00:00:43]:
By then, he means me. I completely forgot Yeah. Yeah. What what was going on? Last night, we had
Chris [00:00:53]:
Hamilton. Really good. So Actually, I think it was the biggest crowd they’ve had there the whole time since I started. So I got there about so doors open at 7, show starts at 8. That’s the sort of thing. I leave home at about 7 because it takes me about 15 minutes to get there or so. Yeah. So — Yeah. Yeah. I I was between quarter past 7 and half past 7 that I got there, and there’s a queue up the stairs. And I was like, okay. And all these people had their preprinted little QR codes and what have you, and that was cool.
Sam [00:01:32]:
Do you need a ticket to get in?
Chris [00:01:35]:
Well, they they pre pre bought them. So that was cool. So Jamie there. He wasn’t on stage last night, but he was there. So I had a quick word with him, and he goes, I said, jeez. It looks pretty good. He goes, yeah. Yeah. We’ve got 75 presales. And I said, this is cool. That’s crazy. How many is the most we ever got? He said the biggest crowd we’ve ever got is 75, but that included door sales. And, of course, I was a door I don’t have a priest priest booked or anything. So it was cool. So I went and grabbed it. I said, right. Well, I’m gonna grab a seat now then so we don’t have to wait. So I got a couple of seats middle of the second row right, like, right down front there, which was real cool. And I I I messaged Adam because Adam said he was gonna come, but Adam’s can be somewhat Slack. Hey, Adam.
Sam [00:02:30]:
What’s what’s Adam? Which Adam? Oh, Adam McFall.
Chris [00:02:33]:
Adam McFall always comes. So, yes, for the last couple of years. No. No. I I just wanna I just wanna clarify that. Yeah. Yeah. So, Adam yeah. I said, you I’ve saved your seat, but you better get in here because it might be actually sold out, like, it’s that sort of bad. It they won’t — It’s gonna become a fantastic. — people standing at the back. That’s really what it’ll be. Right? So, anyway, that was cool. I’m glad he turned up, and I’m glad that he came in because they had this chick. She was later on in the show, Ocean Denim is her actual name, Ocean Denim. Okay. And she she she talks about like one of those Westy Smallcland, and she goes, Well, I’m gonna tell you a little bit about me. I’m a Leo and and she goes, now I wanna know a little bit about you. So everybody raise your hand leave your hand up if you’re earning over $80,000. Okay? Leave your hand up if you’re single and Adam sitting there. meet with his hander. It’s over the rest of the gig. He was mister ADK. Oh, no. It’s just the 80 k. I was I was absolutely pacing myself just from that. So that was that was really funny. And I know it was a great night. It was really good. Good buzz in the crowd. And, yeah, I know talking to the guys afterwards, and I’m going to definitely have a crack on the stage this year. So I’ve gotta I’ve been told my time, and I’ve gotta start getting something together. But yeah. Also, shout out to — How much time do you have? I because I asked them how long do you go for the first one? because I’m pretty sure at Comedy Club in Auckland, it was, like, 3 minutes for your very first Gig, you know, like, that — Sounds about sounds about Friday. Yeah. Well, they said, oh, 5 to 6 minutes. I’m like, oh, okay.
Sam [00:04:34]:
That’s a lot that’s okay. That seems wrong. They do.
Chris [00:04:38]:
It doesn’t when you say 5 to 6 minutes, it doesn’t sound a lot. But when you’re on stage, that’s actually quite a long time. particularly if you’re trying to make people laugh. Yeah. And and and the stress may be on trying in my in my case. But, anyway, I also need to have a shout out to Warren. Warren started listening to the podcast after we met there about I wanna say 3 months ago 3 or 4 months ago, I can’t — Oh, hey, Warren. Yeah. So, yeah, we ended up just having a quick chat then, and and this is the first time he’s come back since that that gig. So we had a a bit of a chat last night. So Yeah. Interesting.
Sam [00:05:21]:
Did did he do the whole starts talking about something on the podcast? And you’re like, hey. How’d you know that? No. No. He just he said he was listening to the podcast there. He hasn’t he hasn’t
Chris [00:05:33]:
signed up for the newsletter yet. So Reminder, everybody, and right now, sign up for the compelling, communicated newsletter. Actually, I’ll put a a link in the in the Facebook page about that. Yeah. Yeah. Show notes would be good too. Yeah. Cool. Cool. So, yeah, that was that was really the the thing last time at Hamilton? Do you think it’s word-of-mouth that’s spreading that around? Like, because, like, consistently going in. I wanted to ask, but I didn’t get a chance to ask afterwards. Ivan was running around busy and stuff because I I was wondering if it’s just, like, the fluke of loads of people just going, I’ve been meaning to do it. This is the month I’m gonna do it. And the weather was a bit better because last last month was quite wet. It was a really crappy night, which all is always gonna depress, you know, sales or whatever. But — Yeah. — last night was pretty cool. So, you know, pretty good good weather. So I think that had an impact, but I I did wanna ask if they’ve been doing extra ad timing or or whatever. But yeah. But at some point, potentially, that venue is gonna be too small. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they’ve got another comedy thing going on on Friday. Like, it’s a tour, though. So probably somebody staying at different places. And I did hear a bit of gossip, but not enough gossip to share. about — Okay. — schisms in the in the Hamilton Comedy ranks and certain people not being able to play there now, and they’re going to I forget who where they’re going to helm, the Hellcrest.
Sam [00:07:13]:
Something began with h anyway, and stuff like that. It sounds it sounds like some sort of ledger in your own Lunchbox story.
Chris [00:07:20]:
Well, yes.
Sam [00:07:22]:
It’s still interesting — I wouldn’t — — me. — I wouldn’t even be able to tell I wouldn’t even know who, like, our top Hamilton comedian is.
Chris [00:07:30]:
Yeah. No. I I couldn’t tell you, and I go to these things. So There you go.
Sam [00:07:37]:
Right. Hey. For all the people that are wanting to know more about submarine talk — Mhmm. — which is our favorite thing. Behind the bastards, the latest two episodes, all about the Stockton rush dude. Oh, nice. And — I haven’t listened to that for ages on it. I must listen to that. put it together pretty quick. But Stockton Rush, he’s the inventor of the doomed — Ocean door. — submarine. Yep. Yeah. and they talk all about that and how yeah. Just his background, which is a bit interesting. And Yeah. So if you like that, check that out behind the bastards.
Chris [00:08:17]:
Well, I just randomly saw it because I haven’t listened to that podcast in, like, a year. Yeah. No. It’s been at least that for me as well. So I should I should check that out. Mind you, I haven’t I haven’t looked too much in the way of podcasting for a while since I don’t commute anymore. It’s pretty annoying.
Sam [00:08:32]:
Talking about things that blow up and kill people, there’s an experimental hybrid called LifeSaves. and apparently, it didn’t, and it blew them up. So, basically, it’s a kit that allows people, I guess, to retrofit a hybrid system into an older vehicle because, you know, who why who doesn’t wanna do that? and it’s called lifesave, and this is in Italy. And it blew up. And there was 2 people in there. 1 was a researcher and a researcher apprentice both ended up in hospital, very serious conditions. but there was more hope of saving the younger one is what they’ve said. And they’re still trying to figure out what caused the explosion I’m going to say shoddy wiring and some sort of battery problem.
Chris [00:09:29]:
Yeah. So it’s this odd name for a for the company because all all they’re doing is retrofitting hybrid engines to existing vehicles. Is that Did I get that right? Yeah. Exact
Sam [00:09:44]:
exactly that, plus, they’re gonna stick some solar panels on the roof in the bonnet to help recharge the battery as well.
Chris [00:09:52]:
Okay. Alright. See because do you remember you you may be too young for this. Do you remember when you used to get CNG conversion kits and LPG conversion kits for your account?
Sam [00:10:06]:
It was a big I know what is I know that yeah. I knew it was a big thing, but I don’t really remember it being advertised,
Chris [00:10:14]:
I guess. Yeah. It was advertised quite a bit on TV back in the day. When I say back in the day, I’m pretty much thinking the seventies here.
Sam [00:10:23]:
I’m thinking when TV first turned on, you were there watching this ad?
Chris [00:10:30]:
Yeah. No. because I think it was because we had trouble getting oil in here, and there was a big oil prices in that And New Zealand had a lot of natural gas reserves, and we’re actually pumping it out and stuff. So there were it costs you, like, a grand or something from memory to do this conversion so that you could fill up with CNG or LPG, and you could get that at pretty much every gas station had a CNG thing. because my my boss had Sung Ji in his his car for and then we used for work all the time. And it was great. the government subsidized it, made sure that there was distribution, and it was way cheaper than than petrol. You had to run your car. You had literally, had a switch so you could run from petrol, then switch it to CNG and then switch back to petrol. And you had to run — Yeah. Yeah. petrol a little bit every month. Otherwise, it wouldn’t be good for the the motor because you needed the the the fluid through it. You know what I mean? But, yeah, inter interesting because it the reason I mentioned that is because It’s nothing new. We’ve done this before. We’ve changed the energy structure of our vehicles before. Right? There is a model for doing that. It exists. So yeah. Anyway. But I don’t wanna tell him No. No. No. No. That’s alright. I’ve got something here. Oh, if you finish with that one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I I’m looking at the an AI chat gpt data survey like a research thing. And I I will say that it’s worth looking at the article, we’ll we’ll we’ll link it in the show notes just from the images. I really I really like the the way they’ve done the data. But I thought I’d ask you a couple of things. So what do you think I’ve got here in front of me the dominant current use of AI. So out of the survey, what do you think is the most common thing people get AI to do. Actually, I’ll ask for the top for it, and then you can — Oh, okay.
Sam [00:12:53]:
I’m gonna say some sort of writing education. Like — Yeah. — school work, maybe. Yep.
Chris [00:13:01]:
That fits in the first one. Yeah.
Sam [00:13:04]:
Okay. Oh, like, missed I don’t know, messages to people or emails? I don’t know. I’m trying to think of 3 different things. I don’t know.
Chris [00:13:16]:
Yep. Okay. The top 3 I’ve got is, 1st, is answer a question, 68%. So they’re just stating it like Google. Right? The second part, which I thought was interesting because that’s what I’d use, but I didn’t think most people were smart enough to do that, is using that for brainstorming, 54%.
Sam [00:13:32]:
Yep.
Chris [00:13:33]:
Because you can’t trust what it gives you, but it can definitely send you in a different direction. Yeah. It gives you some good ideas. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And then third one, I was a little bit of a surprise to me, although on reflection, maybe it shouldn’t have been, was photos. which is, you know, obviously, all this mid journey and and what what have you,
Sam [00:13:55]:
Delhi. Oh, because it was just sorry. It was just AI. I was think you’ve checked GPT. No. No. No. AI. because then — Okay. Yeah. No. Totally. Yeah. Yeah. Images. Yeah. Yeah. Yes.
Chris [00:14:06]:
photos were 37%, music’s 31%, video’s 31%, designs and stories are 29%, artwork 27, data analysis 26, which is interesting. Emails, which you mentioned, was 25, And then — Yep. — lyrics is alright. Blog post 19, coding and lyrics are both 18. But, yeah, I thought that was interesting. to see what that was what it was being used for. And when they talked about people doing they had a bit of a survey just on art. And seventy sense whereas artists should be compensated when ad AI copies their work. So if it copies an artist’s work, 43% believe companies should ban copy copying artists so that they shouldn’t be able to copy an artist. But having — Yeah. Okay. — 44% actually asked AI to copy an artist style. So
Sam [00:15:13]:
I mean, artists do get inspiration from other artists. Yeah.
Chris [00:15:17]:
Yeah. I I agree. It’s not all Nothing’s new. But I I won’t go through all of that. There’s a a lot of data that’s delivered in quite an interesting way. odd. There was one there was one thing that did make us laugh because we were talking about this at epic. 51%, just over half of Americans believe that AI will become sentient at 1 at some point. Yep. And 64% are not opposed companies producing an IA an AI rather that is conscious conscious or sentient. So 64% go yeah. Yeah. We should.
Sam [00:15:59]:
Either way, they need more guns. America does not have enough guns. They need more guns to protect themselves from the AI. I I immediately was thinking of the porno implications
Chris [00:16:10]:
of that I don’t know what they are, and I didn’t wanna stop keep thinking about it. I just stopped as soon as I got to that point. But, yeah, I’m like, yeah. No. That’s why. But you’re right. It could be guns as well.
Sam [00:16:23]:
Probably guns. Very good. Actually, talking along those lines on There’s a stuff article, and they decided to come up with the best places to survive a zombie apocalypse in New Zealand, the safest places. Yep. Because the walking dead dead city trailer has come out, which is another zombie franchise, I guess.
Chris [00:16:56]:
Don’t ask me what that’s about. I don’t know. It yeah. Is it is it a program, or is it a movie? Or
Sam [00:17:02]:
do we know? TV and z it’s on TV and zed.
Chris [00:17:05]:
So —
Sam [00:17:06]:
Oh, okay. — must must be a show. Okay. So apparently, there was a recent Australian study that predicted the safest cities based upon access to supplies, population density, hideouts, transport options, proximity to military, blah blah blah. So this Rando decided to do their own analysis. So number the number one place, far north, apparently. Yeah. I suppose They said that
Chris [00:17:35]:
If you didn’t population density, lower population density. Yeah.
Sam [00:17:41]:
Plenty of off grid opportunities and trees that you can hide in, apparently. Mhmm. Okay. But supplies could be limited. They seem to think Denis would be the 2nd choice, another choice. University Town is gonna be young, fit, healthy, and fast allies to join you. It’s dense enough to warrant plenty of luke worthy stores. and it’s got hills that you can get into. And it’s got a proximity to the harbor and a navy reserve base. What do you reckon about,
Chris [00:18:12]:
Well, I guess you can jump on a boat. because, seriously, zombies can’t swim. Right? So you could basically live on a boat Zip in to sure to do your looting to, you know, refresh supplies and zip back out into to to the water. And it’s not like it’s I know it can get rough on Taupo, but it’s not like you’re on the ocean. So yeah.
Sam [00:18:35]:
What about Wellington? They put Wellington on the list.
Chris [00:18:39]:
Mhmm. Yeah.
Sam [00:18:41]:
They said it’s fairly moved, like, you can get around it pretty easily. Like, and also the government’s there. So if anything’s gonna be protected, it’s gonna be the Beehive. Yeah. True. And they ruled out Auckland. They said Auckland, there will be terrible.
Chris [00:18:55]:
Yeah. Auckland would be the worst. You talk about the what do they call them? The herds herds of zombies? That would be the that would be the biggest herds ever. of, yeah, all company terrible. We we were randomly talking about this last Friday at dinner at lunch, rather, because we bumped into some people that we knew from from telecom days, and there’s a few of us at dinner and lunch. And they worked in Caro Street we’re explaining to somebody who wasn’t a telecom person, you know, what Caro Streep was like, and and Cal was like, yep. That’s where I’m going for the zombie apocalypse because It’s built like a fortress. If they did get in the door and smash the doors and manage to get in, you’ve got this huge stairwell that you could just defend for ages. And
Sam [00:19:44]:
— I like I like how much I like how much brainpower Karl commits to the zombie apocalypse scenarios
Chris [00:19:52]:
every week, it seems. Oh, he has he has hypotheticals for everything going wrong. He has he has that disaster mind on on on lock. So, yeah, good on your account. That’s good. That’s good.
Sam [00:20:06]:
Oh, we should we should say thanks to everybody that took part in the fireside chat, Chris.
Chris [00:20:11]:
Yes. Yes. That was really cool. So we had Jamie there. We had Jeremy, and we had the other Jamie. Jamie. Got 2 Jamie’s. Do I miss someone? No.
Sam [00:20:22]:
No. It was me and you, the 2 JVs and Jeremy.
Chris [00:20:26]:
Yes. So the j crew So, yeah, it was good. We had a good pretty good time. I thought it was pretty cool. We had a good time. We’ve got a a
Sam [00:20:37]:
What’s the word? A good a better setup in mind for next time.
Chris [00:20:42]:
Yeah. And next time, we will do something. So the other j from the j crew, John, can do it at different types of junk and gear here from Dubai. because — We will. We will. That was a bit harsh. But yeah. Well, it’s a little bit harsh. But — Well, we we got no one from America anyway, which was a whole point of picking them particular time. So yeah.
Sam [00:21:08]:
We just have people that like to listen to us, but not interact with us. Yeah. That’s fine. Maybe it’s bots. Napia had a big blackout last week. Oh, yeah. Most of Nate most of Napier got plunged into darkness. It was 50 I think it was 56
Chris [00:21:28]:
54,000
Sam [00:21:30]:
people had no power. They lost 54 megawatts of power. And it was caused by a cat going into a substation and touching things it’s not supposed to touch and blowing itself up in part of the substation.
Chris [00:21:46]:
I was gonna say, I don’t think that cat would have survived. What what what interests me is if the the cat was chasing a mouse or some similar. And the mouse ran through and looked back and was just laughing at this cat being fried. because Tom and Jerry, it’s just such a Tom and Jerry concept. So
Sam [00:22:08]:
It is. It is. So, you know, it makes you wonder how secure the places are if the cat just wandered in there. but that’s okay. I’m sure they’re I’m sure they’re working on that. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. True.
Chris [00:22:24]:
Yeah. because if a cat can get in there, a kid can get in there generally. I don’t know. Exactly.
Sam [00:22:29]:
I I wanna tell you that. — pretty interchangeable.
Chris [00:22:32]:
Well, you know, depends how big they are. So the kids say this. All the kids, I guess. So I wanted to talk about something that I came across this week, and I’ll tell you the story of how. So I I had to go to this lunch on Saturday. Nat was in town, so we’ve few of us were going to lunch together. And I got the time a little bit wrong and ended up in town a little bit early. I I thought it was 12:12:30 was supposed to meet. So I was like, oh, I am just wandering to center place and nosy around. And I entered to Wick Calls, and I do what I do when I’m got a little bit of time to kill. I go to that 100 top 100 books and start scanning and see what’s there. And the quick calls checks are are pretty helpful, to be honest with you. So I was looking at what presumably is in the number one position although they’re not really numbered, but it was top left, which was the partisan, which is a World War Two thriller novel type thing. I was just reading what it was about. And she this chick comes in and she goes, Oh, you’re you’re right there. I’m sitting there. I’m just having a quick browse. She goes, I really recommend you have a check out this red notice by Bill Crowder. And I was like, I recognize that name, Bill Broder. Isn’t he the guy from the magnet ski act? And she goes, yes. Yes. That’s exactly him. I’m like, yeah. Of course. Yeah. So pretty famous. And so she goes, it reads like a thriller, but it’s actually a you know, a true true story. I was like, yeah. That guy I I’d come across him on TV. He’d done an interview or something. I thought it was a fascinating story. I was I’d love to find out more about that. So being that I am not I don’t act my age maybe, I immediately just left there, looked onscribe, got the audio book, which is basically covered by my subscription with Scribe, so I don’t have to pay 30 bucks for her book. Yeah. Well, actually, there’s there’s 2 books, so it would have been, like, 60 bucks or something. And I listened to red notice by Bill Browder over the last week, and it’s fantastic. And I highly recommend the audiobook because the guy that’s reading the the narrator is so good with his accents. So there’s Russians, English, and American are the main 3. And then there’s the few odd, you know, Italians and all the rest of it. And, you know, the lifestyle thing, this guy’s a hedge fund manager that goes to Russia when in the nineties when it’s sort of privatizing and all the rest of it. And he’s making loads of money, but it keeps coming across corruption. So then he decides more not out of being noble or altruistic, really, but bored, more out of survival because he doesn’t wanna lose all the money in his fund. He, you know, he hits these guys with corruption, like charges and and and stats. In YouTube, it just really starting to take hold. So I started using YouTube Actually, YouTube videos are still there. If you search Russian untouchables, you’ll find 4 episodes of these videos you put out at the time documenting this corruption. So these these Russians stole effectively stole a couple of the shell companies, he’d managed to empty them out. So there was no money in them. He’d he’d quietly managed to shovel the stops. And they they stole these things, and he goes, well, they can happen. There’s nothing in there. There’s no point But what they’ve done, because they were big companies or shell holding companies or whatever, they paid taxes. And so they used a couple of these companies. They organized they had had this big elaborate con where they got a court to do a judgment against them from exactly the same amount of money that they paid in taxes. So oh, we didn’t make a profit. So they went to the tax office who these guys were paid off, and they got a rebate on their taxes. to the tune of 230,000,000 US dollars, 230,000,000 US dollars, And, yeah, and and so the whole Magnitsky thing that that comes up — Yeah. the whole main thing that comes up is that one of his techs attorneys who sort of worked this all out, figured it all out, what they were doing, got all the documentation. He went, and at the time, they thought that Putin was a good guy. So they went, oh, we’ll just let, you know, the government know, and they’ll shut this guy down because although Putin’s a little bit dodgy, he wouldn’t be stealing money or wouldn’t condone stealing money from his own government. But evidently, they were wrong. And Magnus Nitsky ended up getting put in prison tortured to sort of recant and fest to stealing the money himself. He never did. He lasted almost a year before they’d beat him into death. So — Oh, wow. Yeah. And then then there’s sort of good ending to it as well, like, what what went on. But I don’t wanna give any more away. It’s just a fascinating story. Definitely highly recommend the audiobook, so give that a go.
Sam [00:28:09]:
Okay. Sounds good. check that out if you’re into that. It has rated very highly that book. Yeah. It’s really good. And the new one, I’ve
Chris [00:28:19]:
he’s come up with a a second one that I haven’t read yet, but I’m I’ve got the audio book as well. I just gotta do it now. It’s called freezing order, and it’s tracing the money and what happened to it and where it went and who’s who’s doing all the dodgy dodgy deeds. So I’ll let you know how that goes. dodgy deed.
Sam [00:28:37]:
Okay. Hey. We’ll finish this off real quick. Have you been giving the text messages saying you’ve got a problem with your BNC at bank account? Nope. So more and more people are coming out saying they’ve been scammed from b and zed. I have got some of these text messages My phone, Huawei, actually knows if it’s a spam text message and tells me that I’ve got spam text message moves it to a separate folder and hides it from me. I can go look at them, and, yeah, I could always be in zed ones. So they’ve got ones where it says here that the woman, she lost $42,000 within minutes. She just clicked on it straight away, and they log in, I think. Yep. So that’s terrible.
Chris [00:29:21]:
The — Yeah. because I I’ve never had a Ben Z1, I don’t think. I know I’ve had a few a s b ones. But, basically, anything I get from New Zealand Post, what could Catahi, Yeah. Any bank, I just ignore them. I just assume that I assume that crap and I delete them. If it is my bank, I will read it, but I I don’t ever click any of the links. I’ll just delete it. No. And then I’ll I’ll look you know, I’ll I’ll access it. through my bookmarks or whatever online.
Sam [00:29:56]:
But, like, it’s good that they’re saying these stories, but I think it’s reinforcing to the scammers that there’s so many people they can rip off. So some dude, they took 37,000, 15000 from someone else, 6000 from somebody else,
Chris [00:30:10]:
37,000.
Sam [00:30:12]:
Again, My top tip is don’t bank with b and zed. So when you get that text message, you will not be duped.
Chris [00:30:20]:
I don’t argue with that, mate. I don’t agree with that at all. But yeah. Yeah. It it is they they haven’t said who who’s done the scams, though, to have that. They don’t know
Sam [00:30:34]:
who it is. No. No. So — It could be it literally it literally could be anybody, and it could be someone closer to home than,
Chris [00:30:45]:
you know, some shady network overseas. Who knows? Could be anyone. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I I tend to think it will be overseas, but I think they’re getting a lot of help from people here.
Sam [00:30:57]:
or x clears all the the in this story though, they’re not this person is not happy with being said, they said the scammers are making Beans look like images in the scamming world, and customers are easy targets. Time to change banks, I think. even though we’ve been loyal to them for 30 years.
Chris [00:31:14]:
Yeah. So — Well, I I — Anyway — — I prefer the idea of a New Zealand owned bank anyway. And Bank of New Zealand for those listening from overseas is not a New Zealand bank.
Sam [00:31:26]:
No. It’s Australian. Top tip, don’t click on anything. Ignore everything because if it is legit, they will get hold of you some other way and you don’t give any of them your details because there’s no need for that. They will know who you are and everything. Like, anyway, with that fun little story of people getting ripped off, it’s time for us to leave you and let you get on with whatever you’re up to. I hope it’s amazing. And until next time, I’m Sam. I’m Chris. See you.
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