Summary

Chris recounts his Auckland trip, while Sam has a weird mail request. The episode dives into stories of robot vacuum cleaner hacks, AI mishaps—including priests using AI—and awkward burger CEO moments. Plus, there’s talk of move-on orders, missing CIA data, and aliens. All this and much more in this week’s episode!

Links

Move On Orders for Rough Sleepers
Man Ends up Controlling 6700 Robot Vacuums
CIA World Fact Book Gone
Are Aliens Real?
McDonalds CEO Video
OpenClaw Doesn’t Care
Epstein Walk of Shame
Priests Reminded to Not Use AI

Show Transcript

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Sam [00:00:21]:
Hello and welcome to episode 570 of the Chris and Sam Podcast. I’m Chris and I’m Sam. Welcome along to your weekly fix of randomness, technology, and life.

Chris [00:00:30]:
Yes, only 30 more to go before the big 600.

Sam [00:00:34]:
Yeah, I mean, that’s half a year away. That’ll sneak up on us and we won’t know what’s going on.

Chris [00:00:40]:
Everything’s sneaking up on us. So I’m going to tell you a little bit about what I got up to last week.

Sam [00:00:45]:
Does that include the Grim Reaper for you?

Chris [00:00:47]:
Oh, Jesus. It includes the hospital as it turns out. That’s a teaser. Yeah, no, last week I went up to Auckland for an event. Or event. I’d already organized to go up for the Rocky Horror Show and it just worked out that work needed me to, um, do some work, do some work, some filming up there. So I went up and caught up with Guy Pigden, friend of the podcast, uh, shout out to Guy. And we used his studio to film, uh, a few people from, um, the Auckland Council, uh, that I was doing some work for.

Chris [00:01:22]:
And that studio was great. Works really, really well. He’s got the cutest dog.

Sam [00:01:29]:
I’ve seen the dog.

Chris [00:01:30]:
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the dog was a big hit with all of the people at the campsite.

Sam [00:01:35]:
That’s what you need.

Chris [00:01:36]:
Although I will, I got there a bit late for the very first person. I came down the driveway and the dog starts barking in the middle of filming.

Sam [00:01:43]:
I mean, that’s all right.

Chris [00:01:44]:
There was good old Müller. So anyway, that was okay. But yeah, so good trip away. I realized how bad my, uh, walking is getting.

Sam [00:01:55]:
Really?

Chris [00:01:56]:
Yes. It’s, it’s, uh, just now not fantastic.

Sam [00:01:59]:
Uh, yeah.

Chris [00:02:00]:
Well, if I don’t walk, I don’t notice it. So it’s true. So I sit around home a lot. So that’s cool. But, uh, a couple of things I wanted to mention. Kiss Kiss. So I’ve been to Kiss Kiss before, which is a restaurant in Dominion Road or off Dominion Road.

Sam [00:02:15]:
Okay. Okay.

Chris [00:02:16]:
Off Sandringham Road, off Dominion Road.

Sam [00:02:18]:
Somewhere in Auckland.

Chris [00:02:19]:
Yes. And, um, but they’ve got this new thing and I’m like, oh, this is marketing genius.

Sam [00:02:26]:
Okay.

Chris [00:02:26]:
Cause we saw it at one table and I was like, oh, that’s weird. What’s that? And then we’re sitting down and, and the guys next to us got another one. I’m like, uh, so when the waitress come over, what’s that? Oh, it’s on the blackboard up there. It’s a cocktail tree and it’s a, a, a wire structure, um, circular with places in the, the, you know, the margarita type glasses fit into them and there’s 6.

Sam [00:02:52]:
Okay, so then bring 6 drinks over.

Chris [00:02:54]:
So, so yeah, it’s $65 for a cocktail tree.

Sam [00:02:57]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:02:58]:
And, um, you just get one to your table. Of course, what do you do? You take a photo of it because it looks freaking epic and that goes on Instagram. It’s best marketing ever. And, um, I was like, goddamn, if I’d known that, we could have ordered and Carolyn’s like, first of all, you can’t walk drunk. You can’t walk sober, you can’t walk drunk. And secondly, we drove here and I’m not drinking that because we won’t be walking, uh, we’ll be walking home and that’s not happening.

Sam [00:03:27]:
Fair enough, fair enough.

Chris [00:03:27]:
So yeah, so, uh, shout out to Bang Bang. And then on Saturday night—

Sam [00:03:32]:
what’s the name of this place?

Chris [00:03:33]:
Oh, sorry, Kiss Kiss. I don’t know why I said Bang Bang.

Sam [00:03:35]:
I know, just checking because I don’t know which one’s which now.

Chris [00:03:38]:
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang is a movie, isn’t it? Yeah, uh, Kiss Kiss, uh, yeah. And oh, it’s, it’s very good, it’s worth checking out if you’re into that sort of— it’s, uh Asian fusion type restaurant.

Sam [00:03:48]:
Okay.

Chris [00:03:48]:
So it was really cool. And then went to the Rocky Horror Show at the Civic.

Sam [00:03:54]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:03:54]:
Which is still on at the moment because I know somebody else is going this weekend and it’s the London Theatre Company.

Sam [00:04:02]:
Okay.

Chris [00:04:03]:
Although Frankenfurter was definitely American. Yeah. It was really good. Really good. Really good. And I forget I’ve been to a few of these things. I forget how much audience interaction’s built into this thing.

Sam [00:04:18]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:04:18]:
So every time the writer’s up and they’re aligned, people know what he’s going to say and they ask the questions that make it just a little bit dirty what he’s going to come up with next.

Sam [00:04:27]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:04:28]:
So yeah, and, and they had done their homework. And so, you know, some of the things yelled out, they brought in Ponsonby and Brian Tamaki and different things. So it was a lot of fun. So if you do get a chance to go to the Rocky Horror Show at the moment, I highly recommend it.

Sam [00:04:45]:
Very good.

Chris [00:04:46]:
Cool. That’s my update on Chris’s exciting life.

Sam [00:04:51]:
Okay. Your words. I did, I did do a work visit thing last week and I went to this place and I’m looking at it and it’s an old, I’m not going to say too much, give it away, but it’s an old workshop type place. Been there forever. Go find this dude. He says his name’s Gordon. And I was like, hey, I’m here to do this thing. And he’s like, yep, sweet.

Sam [00:05:15]:
And he goes, oh, is that woman with you? I’m like, what? And I turn around, there’s some rando woman’s just appeared. And she’s like, oh, I’m from Whangarei. I’m here to pick up this thing, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And he’s like, oh yeah, sweet as. And he grabs this thing that he’s helped fix and throws it in the car and off she goes. And then he shows me around and I’m looking at all this random stuff. And I’m like, oh yep, sweet as. All good.

Sam [00:05:35]:
I’m gonna go. So I go, I walk to the front where my car is. And as I’m walking, there’s like a DX Mail guy on one of those little moped things, little Honda bikes, comes flying in. That’s all good. I’m sitting in the car. I’m finishing off paperwork on my phone. And then Gordon comes out of this old workshop and he walks up to my driver’s door and I wind it down and he’s holding something. And I think it’s a piece of paper that I actually need to see.

Sam [00:06:02]:
But he actually is going to send that to me later. He’s holding like a trade magazine and it’s wrapped and it’s just been delivered by the DX Mail guy. And he goes, hey, can you deliver this for me? And he just gives it to me and I’m holding it. And on the back of it, it’s like an ad for some sort of mechanical thing. And I’m like, uh, what? Like, I’m really confused. And he goes, See that name? And I’m looking at the address. I’m like, yep. He goes, see that name? He died 36 years ago.

Sam [00:06:35]:
I still get his mail. Then he grabs that out of my hand and then just walks off.

Chris [00:06:42]:
Well, well, if you work for the government, you should know these things and they should tell you these things. That is the logic behind that.

Sam [00:06:52]:
It’s just weird. Hey, a little, quite a little update, but I haven’t dived too deep into this. So last week’s episode, we actually recorded back to back to the previous one. So, um, there was like, we did two in one day, which is not normal for us, but we got pretty tickled two episodes ago. Well, I did about the pocket soda thing and the tree flavor. Tree flavor. My sister actually sent me something about another soda somewhere. She goes, I’m so gutted they don’t have tree.

Sam [00:07:19]:
So basically the guy behind the Kickstarter that made whatever he made, $70, $80K. He’s a YouTuber. And it seems like he’s quite a legitimate scientist. The reason he did this Kickstarter, I think, haven’t looked into it too much, there was a guy that came out recently that said he’s cracked the Coca-Cola formula after a couple of years. And he’s got it exact, like he can make it. So this guy on this YouTube channel is doing this as a bit of a piss take, but he has also got a couple of videos where he’s basically peer-reviewed what the guy said, and he had to buy $300 worth of equipment, and he’s doing it outside in a carport. But it’s like a 45-minute video, and he recreates Coke, uh, following this guy’s exact formula. And then he says, I did it, here’s the— here’s how to do it, but I’ve tweaked it.

Sam [00:08:11]:
Like, later on he tweaked it again. And, um, yeah, it looks like he goes on these little scientific escapades sorting stuff out. So he said $300 worth of equipment and then, um, so much for the actual production, and then it works out at 13 cents a glass, I think it was, or a bottle. Yeah, so that’s what that’s all about. We’ll have a link in the show notes to his YouTube channel.

Chris [00:08:34]:
So it was the in-crowd that was, um, paying for it.

Sam [00:08:38]:
But he’s obviously got enough of an audience, yeah, to do that because you can’t just do it from cold. But anyway, correct.

Chris [00:08:45]:
Oh, talking about something, you just, uh, triggered something. I saw an interview in Variety magazine with Matt Dinaman from the, um, Dungeon Crawler Carl. Yeah. And he’s still— interview is interesting, but that audience thing, he goes, yeah, when I was making the first book, like, nobody read it. Like, you know, we sold it, it was good. He said, I’ve got pre-orders for like 7 million. I know we’ve sold 7 million copies now. I’ve got pre-orders for like almost a million for the first one with the number 8.

Chris [00:09:20]:
So yeah, that can screw with your mind. The interviewer asked him a question like, oh, do you know how it all wraps up? He goes, yes, I haven’t told anybody at all about how this story ends. So if anything happens for me, you’re screwed. Although I guess you could get Brandon Sanderson to write it if you want. And one of the, I’ve shared it with a group at work and one, and Lana pointed that one out and laughed and she goes, yeah, Brandon Sanderson writes his stuff quicker than I can read it.

Sam [00:09:54]:
Oh wow.

Chris [00:09:56]:
That’s obviously an inside joke. So anyway, I thought that was good.

Sam [00:10:00]:
Very good. Did you see the McDonald’s CEO eat his hamburger this week?

Chris [00:10:04]:
No.

Sam [00:10:05]:
We’ll have a link to it.

Chris [00:10:06]:
Why is there anything— why is that worth mentioning?

Sam [00:10:11]:
Because I think he might be a lizard person.

Chris [00:10:17]:
Oh, okay.

Sam [00:10:19]:
So they have brought out a burger called the Big Angus. Oh, sorry, Big Arch. The burger is called the Big Arch.

Chris [00:10:28]:
Big Arch.

Sam [00:10:28]:
Now this guy, he’s the CEO. He’s trying the Big Arch. Now what they’ve done is they released it into a bunch of different markets. It sounds like they’re just doing it in America now. And, um, I don’t know if this guy has ever held a hamburger before.

Chris [00:10:44]:
I would’ve thought that the CEO of McDonald’s came through the system. You know what I mean? Because they make such a big deal, or they used to do, of the McDonald’s University and all of that sort of thing. And you can go places if you start at McDonald’s. And I would’ve thought he’d come through the system and at least handled a burger before.

Sam [00:11:11]:
Have a look how big this bite is.

Chris [00:11:12]:
You don’t notice the size of the bite at all.

Sam [00:11:15]:
No, that’s the thing. So he’s getting slammed on social media. He’s taken the world’s smallest bite because he doesn’t want to taste it. It reminds people of the Krusty Burger, Krusty the Clown on The Simpsons when he brought one. He goes, oh God, I swallowed some, and he’s spitting it out. So obviously, like, They, I don’t think this was put on. I don’t think this guy wanted to eat this burger. So now Burger King CEO comes out and he’s like, hey, this is our Whopper.

Sam [00:11:43]:
He takes a bite that’s bigger than this, but not as big as it should be. Then the Wendy’s guy comes out. ‘Cause you know, they’re going hard. Now Wendy’s is great because they hold up a burger that looks like it was made at Wendy’s. It literally looks like the real thing. And he takes a couple of bites. Not too bad. And then he goes, you know what goes real well with this? A Frosty and fries.

Sam [00:12:05]:
And he’s digging the fries into the Frosty and he’s smashing it back. That’s what you need to do.

Chris [00:12:09]:
That I like.

Sam [00:12:10]:
So I don’t know if McDonald’s decided to do this as a publicity thing and they told the guy, take the world’s smallest bite.

Chris [00:12:16]:
No.

Sam [00:12:17]:
He looks awkward.

Chris [00:12:19]:
He looks awkward. He— I hate to say it like this.

Sam [00:12:22]:
It’s the words.

Chris [00:12:23]:
He’s such a dweeb looking dude.

Sam [00:12:25]:
Yeah, but it’s the words that go with it. ‘Look at this big bite,’ or whatever he says.

Chris [00:12:28]:
Oh, you see the onions on it. It’s got onions. You can see the onions. It looks like a McDonald’s. He’s very dweeby, and I don’t mean to be dismissive of dweebs. What are your thoughts on this New Zealand thing that they’re going on about now with the move-on orders?

Sam [00:12:48]:
Oh, for the homeless people?

Chris [00:12:49]:
For the homeless people.

Sam [00:12:50]:
I’m sure they’ve done this in other parts of the world, but where are they moving to? What’s the point? You’re just, I think it’s just lip service.

Chris [00:12:57]:
Yeah. Often it’s to, oh, just get out of this area. We don’t want your sort in this area. And it’s like, you’re not solving the problem at all. You’re just hiding the problem.

Sam [00:13:09]:
I’ve got a funny feeling at one point they wanted to bust the homeless out of Hamilton and drop them off in like either Matamata, Morrinsville, or Te Awamutu or something.

Chris [00:13:16]:
Yeah, I remember that. Basically saying that, yeah. If we, if we can get them to If they don’t have bus fare and we drive them 100 kilometers away, it’ll take them all day to get back and then we’ll just keep driving them out.

Sam [00:13:30]:
They’ll just get tired.

Chris [00:13:31]:
And they won’t be begging in the streets all day because they’ll be busy walking, was the plan. Yeah, no, I think it’s pretty disgraceful. And I think Luxon’s not having a great week, I don’t think.

Sam [00:13:42]:
Did you see I sent you that thing with him publicly?

Chris [00:13:44]:
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sam [00:13:45]:
He did not have any prepared comments.

Chris [00:13:49]:
About the Iraq war thing, yeah.

Sam [00:13:51]:
He cannot seem to think for himself. And he just, all he had to do, all he had to do was like, just stop talking. He fumbled and he goes, I think I made my point clear.

Chris [00:14:02]:
Did you? Winston, you’re an idiot. That’s the point you made clear, is you’re an idiot.

Sam [00:14:08]:
I think even Winston came out and said, I wouldn’t have fumbled if you asked me a question. Which is true. It might not have been a good answer.

Chris [00:14:16]:
It might not have been a good answer or any answer because no answer is just as good. I say, yeah, I’m not going to comment on that is an answer.

Sam [00:14:26]:
Have you ever thought about having a whole bunch of robot vacuum cleaners at your disposal?

Chris [00:14:34]:
Uh, I bought a crappy, um, AliExpress one for $10.

Sam [00:14:39]:
Uh, I, what does $10 get you?

Chris [00:14:43]:
I’ve hidden it because I didn’t want you to see it. Now I’ve mentioned it. So, we’ll have to see. We can have a laugh. Okay. That’s the worst thing you’ve ever seen. If you can think of a $10 robo vac, it’s pretty much exactly what you’re thinking. So, well, I thought it would be funny because I’m like, what can you do with a robo vac for $10? I’m going to get it on the off chance that it’s $10.

Sam [00:15:08]:
That’s their whole marketing. People like you are like, I’ll just buy one of these and see what happens.

Chris [00:15:16]:
Yeah.

Sam [00:15:16]:
Okay.

Chris [00:15:16]:
Anyway, sorry.

Sam [00:15:18]:
A better product, which costs a lot more, is called a DJI Romo. So DJI, who make the drones, have made a robot vacuum cleaner. And this guy basically took over 6,700 of them around the world.

Chris [00:15:31]:
Oh, what? So he spoofed it, zombied it, whatever they call it.

Sam [00:15:35]:
No, not really on purpose. That’s the funny thing. So he did end up with floor plans, live camera and microphone feeds.

Chris [00:15:42]:
Oh no, I didn’t do it on purpose. No, no, no, no, Mr. Officer. No, I didn’t do that on purpose.

Sam [00:15:48]:
And he can control any of them with a PlayStation controller now.

Chris [00:15:51]:
Jeez.

Sam [00:15:52]:
So it’s a bit crazy. So he—

Chris [00:15:54]:
I bet you can’t control mine. I don’t think you can control yours.

Sam [00:16:01]:
He was tinkering with his own one and he was trying to create a custom application. So he’s a programmer and he wanted to control it via PlayStation controller. That’s what he was trying to do. He used, I think it was Claude or something, one of them, one of the AI tools, to reverse engineer the communication protocol. And he got the private token, which is his one. But because they had a security flaw, he got access to all of them.

Chris [00:16:29]:
So suddenly he’s doing this around and round in circles in his kitchen and around the world, dozens of them or thousands of them are doing the same thing.

Sam [00:16:40]:
I think he got access to the server so he could just pick one and then look at what it was doing and stuff. Um, but they, they have patched it as well. So that’s not good. What a random thing to do.

Chris [00:16:52]:
I’m just looking at that camera over there. I just looked away as I— I’m not looking at you.

Sam [00:17:00]:
The Chinese heard us doing a podcast. Your security camera just turned away. Oh no, hello. Please listen to us.

Chris [00:17:09]:
Anyway, that’s—

Sam [00:17:10]:
Tell your friends, TCast.com.

Chris [00:17:12]:
Yeah, somebody can hack in and watch our live podcast feeds and know what we’re talking about before we publish it.

Sam [00:17:20]:
Talking about AI, we might as well stay in the AI realm. The Pope wants his priests to stop using AI for sermons because they’re using that now because why not? They’ve got, you know, they need something to help them because they’ve got not enough time on their hands. Yes, he said like, hey, look, if we just keep using these tools, we’re sort of going to forget how to do it. So we should really, it’s like a muscle, we should keep flexing it and using it, which is true.

Chris [00:17:47]:
But absolutely, I agree with that.

Sam [00:17:48]:
I think we’re slowly going down this weird rabbit hole of AI not taking over, but people relying on it too much.

Chris [00:17:56]:
Yeah.

Sam [00:17:57]:
And then the new thing, OpenClaw, have you heard about that?

Chris [00:18:01]:
Yeah. What is that again?

Sam [00:18:02]:
OpenClaw is an AI agent and they’re all rather excited about it because it can do a whole bunch of stuff. But the director of Meta Superintelligence Labs was using it and OpenClaw just goes in and wiped his whole email. All his email’s gone. And they couldn’t stop it. They had to like go in and do like a failsafe type thing because it was just, they manually terminated it. Manually terminate it. She said, check this inbox and suggest what you would archive or delete. Don’t action until I tell you to.

Sam [00:18:36]:
And it just kept deleting everything.

Chris [00:18:38]:
Good.

Sam [00:18:39]:
And I think that’s, I was talking to someone at work about this today. I was like, oh, ’cause I was in a work meeting and the other half of the people I work with were getting excited because they’re gonna start thinking about using agents, AI agents for certain things. And I’m just like, this is gonna turn to chaos.

Chris [00:18:55]:
Oh my gosh.

Sam [00:18:56]:
You know, it doesn’t matter what the people sell you. It doesn’t matter what they say. As soon as you let them in, I think it’s going to go crazy. But I think the real key is you have to have people that still know how to do the thing or understand what’s wrong to undo it.

Chris [00:19:10]:
That, yeah, they, they, they, they need a level more than that. Because if they just know how to do it, they might as well just keep doing it. But they also have to know how the agent interacts with the system.

Sam [00:19:21]:
Yes.

Chris [00:19:21]:
To do it, because then you can spot where they’ve gone wrong or gone right, you know? Yeah. Because having done some archaic types of this sort of stuff in telecom back in the day, 20 years ago. Yeah, I wanted to do that.

Sam [00:19:39]:
I have been arguing with AI this week. ChatGPT has been giving me all the wrong information. So I’ve been tweaking a website and I was doing some stuff. And after a while you realize it sometimes doesn’t even know what it’s talking about. It’s like, oh, you are right. That extra thing doesn’t have that feature. And I’m like, why did you tell me it did? Oh, I don’t know. I was wrong.

Sam [00:20:01]:
You were right. Cool, bro.

Chris [00:20:04]:
I hate that because I’ve called it out a few times. Well, I’ve got something on AI. A little bit different though. I thought it was funny. So this is more about, all these companies that have AI in them, and so it boosts their valuation. So there’s this Japanese company that’s doing, they’re talking it up as being a total sleeper giant in the AI space.

Sam [00:20:28]:
Yep.

Chris [00:20:28]:
Makes toilets. So they reckon it’s flush with potential.

Sam [00:20:32]:
Oh, it’s not Toyo?

Chris [00:20:33]:
Toto.

Sam [00:20:34]:
Toto, sorry. Yes. Best toilets in the world.

Chris [00:20:36]:
Apparently.

Sam [00:20:38]:
They’re the $10,000, $12,000 ones that have like a million buttons and does all the stuff.

Chris [00:20:43]:
Palace Capital says Toto is sitting on a hidden semiconductor value and wants the company to lift the lid. The AI hype cycle has officially reached the toilet with Japanese bathroom giants suddenly being pitched as a serious tech play. Okay, um, so yeah, it goes on about that. I just thought it was hilarious.

Sam [00:21:01]:
But what’s the idea? They’re going to be analyzing what you’re doing, is that the trick?

Chris [00:21:07]:
No, it doesn’t say anything. It says nothing in this whole thing except It uses chips, so you could put AI in there. What it’s going to do with that AI, it doesn’t actually mention in the whole thing.

Sam [00:21:19]:
I like to believe the guy that’s coming up with these ideas sounds like that. Hey, I’ve heard about chips. AI, we need it. Hey, this toilet here, like it’s the most advanced toilet in the world. It does some stuff that no other toilet will do to your asshole. But we’re going to put AI in it. What do you reckon? Yeah, let’s do it.

Chris [00:21:44]:
Yeah. Hey, did you ever come across or use the CIA World Factbook?

Sam [00:21:49]:
It sounds sort of familiar, but I don’t think so.

Chris [00:21:52]:
So I used to use it a lot, or I used to look at it a lot. Um, it’s a great service. It had been going on forever and ever. Um, basically. They put it on to, um, well, the, the government, the US government does all this stuff.

Sam [00:22:09]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:22:09]:
You could go to, uh, CIA World Factbook and find out, you know, basic stuff about all countries. So you can go, what is the landmass of Japan? What is the landmass?

Sam [00:22:20]:
Oh, okay. So they had a lot of—

Chris [00:22:21]:
Actual area. Uh, how many people, population, how does that break down religious? How many religious groups are there? Sort of thing. You know, all these sort of demographic—

Sam [00:22:30]:
why were they sharing it?

Chris [00:22:31]:
Well, because it’s public information, because it’s government, so they did it publicly. Okay, except they’re not now because, um, Trump’s shut it down. But it’s been going for decades, decades, decades.

Sam [00:22:46]:
And why did he shut—

Chris [00:22:47]:
I was using it 20 years ago.

Sam [00:22:48]:
And did he shut it down to save money?

Chris [00:22:51]:
Um, I don’t know. But, um, so the biggest The story I’ve got here is CNN story. This teacher, Taylor Hale, was in the middle of teaching a Western geography lesson on Wednesday afternoon when his 6th grade students informed him that the only reference they usually consulted was gone. So they didn’t tell anybody, they just turned it off. He’d instructed them to compare the gross domestic products of Honduras, El Salvador, and Nicaragua. So they went to the CIA World Factbook. But instead of the usual index page of countries, they had blue web page announcing Fatbook was no more.

Sam [00:23:27]:
Oh, weird.

Chris [00:23:28]:
So yeah, and it’s just one of those, Trump’s trying to save money everywhere so he can buy more missiles to throw it around. I like, I don’t, I just don’t think it makes sense.

Sam [00:23:40]:
He’s got all the missiles. There’s so many missiles, whatever the quote was. I can’t remember what he said yesterday.

Chris [00:23:44]:
Yeah, infinite missiles. We haven’t even, we’ve got infinite missiles.

Sam [00:23:48]:
But they, talking about that war, if that’s what it is.

Chris [00:23:50]:
Yeah, no, we should definitely call it the Trump-Iran War.

Sam [00:23:53]:
They must be so excited to actually be doing something, some of these military people. The amount of planes that they’ve sent to do God knows what is mind-boggling. The submarine that just blew up a whole ship. Do you see that?

Chris [00:24:08]:
I didn’t know that.

Sam [00:24:08]:
They’re all crowded. All the people on the ship are sort of at the back of the boat and then the submarine just launches its missile torpedo, and the whole ship just gets obliterated, and there’s people going everywhere. So there’s like 100 people gone, and this is the first time they’ve launched a torpedo since World War II, I think they said. They’ve never done it since, since then. So you know they’ve got itchy trigger fingers.

Chris [00:24:33]:
Lots of sailors with hard-ons.

Sam [00:24:35]:
I think so.

Chris [00:24:38]:
Uh, it’s, it’s so— I mean, what makes him any different from Russia attacking Ukraine at this point?

Sam [00:24:45]:
Nothing.

Chris [00:24:45]:
You know what I mean?

Sam [00:24:46]:
He’s America. Hell yeah.

Chris [00:24:48]:
Yeah. I mean, well, yeah. Uh, it’s, it’s very disappointing. It’s not disappointing because you just know it’s Trump and that’s all you can expect out of him. But holy crap.

Sam [00:25:00]:
Maybe, maybe this is all in response to the, um, Epstein walk of shame that has appeared.

Chris [00:25:09]:
Oh, what’s that? Well, it’s right next to something I’ve not heard.

Sam [00:25:12]:
Oh, it’s right next to the warehouse. The warehouse.

Chris [00:25:16]:
The White House. The White House where everyone gets a bargain.

Sam [00:25:21]:
You can tell it’s the end of the day.

Chris [00:25:25]:
Yeah, you’re right.

Sam [00:25:25]:
It’s right next to the White House because that makes way more sense. So mysterious individuals or groups have started laying down the stars. Looks like the Hollywood Walk of Fame, whatever they call it. So you’ve got Bill Clinton there. You’ve got what’s her name? Ghislaine Maxwell, Andrew Windsor, obviously Bill Gates, Larry Summers, Lex Wexner, Howard Lutnick, Elon Musk. His one’s been ripped off, but reportedly, um, yeah, reportedly ripped off. And Donald Trump’s on there. So they’ve been putting these big stickers up.

Sam [00:25:57]:
And, um, did you hear about the, um, Barack Obama’s aliens thing? I can’t— yeah, didn’t he— was he on a podcast?

Chris [00:26:06]:
So he’s on a podcast with Brian Tyler Cohen, right? So the podcast is like 48 minutes long. Okay, yeah, so normal, did the podcast, yeah, in-depth podcast. I talked about a lot of stuff. Yeah, just like, and then, yeah, and then at the last 2 minutes he goes, how do you feel about a speed round? And he asked them some quick-fire questions. And one of the quick-fire questions, for example, is, is Tupac dead? And Barack Obama, very quick guy, Barack Obama, he’s like, live and well on my, on my playlist. Like, yeah, okay. And so, are aliens real? Yeah, but I’ve not seen one is what he said.

Sam [00:26:42]:
Okay.

Chris [00:26:43]:
Right.

Sam [00:26:43]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:26:43]:
Big furor comes up over the States. Everybody’s like, Barack Obama sold everybody that aliens are real. And because, um, I, I found out about this because Brian Tyler Cohen was on another podcast and somebody goes, what about the aliens? And he’s like, oh God, because I hadn’t heard of it at that point. And, uh, he goes, I took it immediately as meaning, I think they’re, I think there’s aliens out there, but You know, we’ve got no evidence of it. That’s what I took it to mean. And everybody else, and they just moved on.

Sam [00:27:13]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:27:14]:
But people went, oh no, uh, Barack Obama said that there’s aliens. And then this is the funny part, which I don’t know if you know, Trump got asked about it on Air Force One as he does.

Sam [00:27:26]:
Yeah. With all his buddy reporters on there.

Chris [00:27:29]:
Yeah. And he goes, he shouldn’t have said that. I think we’re going to have to go after him for the Official Secrets Act now., and now people are going, what is he real? Like, what the fuck? What does that mean? Like, freaking Trump, man. He’s such a knob.

Sam [00:27:47]:
And no one’s gonna tell him about aliens.

Chris [00:27:50]:
Uh, if there is an, if there is an alien, it’s inside of Trump, I think.

Sam [00:27:55]:
Uh, yeah, probably. Uh, that brings us to the end of this episode. We hope you’ve enjoyed it. We had a laugh. Yeah, I’m about to look at a $10 robo vacuum cleaner.

Chris [00:28:06]:
Oh yeah, oh yeah, okay.

Sam [00:28:09]:
Uh, yeah, so check out thechrisandsam.com or just tcasp.com for ease of, uh, typing, and you can check out the back catalog, everything else we’ve got going there. And we will see you next time.

Chris [00:28:23]:
I’m Sam.

Chris [00:28:23]:
I’m Chris. See ya, bye!