Nano Sculptures

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Sam [00:00:22]:
Hello, Chris. How’s it going?

Chris [00:00:23]:
Good day, Sam. How are you?

Sam [00:00:25]:
Good. Good. Episode number 9 of the Christmas Sand podcast.

Chris [00:00:29]:
This is 9, is

Sam [00:00:29]:
it? It is.

Chris [00:00:31]:
Almost at double digits.

Sam [00:00:32]:
It’s a bit yeah. It’s crazy how fast it goes.

Chris [00:00:45]:
That would be my friend Darren Darren Daysly. He is a pain in the butt. So, yeah, he just gets ignored.

Sam [00:00:52]:
How does he not understand that we’re podcasting right now?

Chris [00:00:55]:
Just try to get him to understand not to ring me at all, actually.

Sam [00:00:58]:
Oh, no problem. It’s a bit like that. That’s funny.

Chris [00:01:02]:
Right. I am silencing my phone.

Sam [00:01:04]:
I have

Chris [00:01:15]:
We wanna use your sound gear, which is brilliant ex because it’s Sam’s sound gear, but it was at my place. So he Sam couldn’t make it. He was busy, and so They came around, and I was the sound engineer. And I’m it was the longest podcast ever, like, an hour 40, and I blew it. It was unusable. And we’re like, where’s Sam when you need him? Get rid of this Chris guy.

Sam [00:01:37]:
So they’re coming back next they’re coming back Tuesday, you said?

Chris [00:01:40]:
Yeah. Tuesday, we’ll rerecord it.

Sam [00:01:41]:
And I’ll I’m free. So are they rerecording that episode, or they think you’re doing 2 episodes because, you know, 4 hours later?

Chris [00:01:48]:
We’ll just do the 1 episode.

Sam [00:01:50]:
We’ll see how we go.

Chris [00:01:51]:
It’s a special episode for the Neil Before pod podcast. Special Star

Sam [00:01:56]:
Wars Okay. So that makes

Chris [00:01:58]:
sense. Guests. Yeah.

Sam [00:01:59]:
That’d be good. Yeah. Did they have anyone extra on this thing on Tuesday, or Or it’s just the normal guys?

Chris [00:02:05]:
It it was Ben, who I don’t think is normally on there. He’s a Star Wars guy. He’s, one of the directors of our Star Wars fan film, And it was Sash who normally takes it.

Sam [00:02:15]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:02:15]:
And then I said, I have this microphone, but I’ll keep it turned off, but I couldn’t shut up. So Yeah. I was in there a lot too.

Sam [00:02:22]:
Oh, that that’s good. So since the last podcast, I was talking about donating plasma.

Chris [00:02:27]:
That’s right.

Sam [00:02:27]:
And I went into that and experienced the joys of donating plasma. And before you go in, they check you all out. And I’m sitting there, and they’re doing all the stuff on the sign. Let’s do that. And then they turned around to me and said, do you do a lot of sports? I was like, no. Not at all. Like, your resting heart rate is pretty much the same as a top athlete. I was like, excellent.

Sam [00:02:51]:
It’s like 50. And So, it’s right on the limit of what they can accept any lower, and I couldn’t have done it. So it was cool.

Chris [00:02:59]:
And Because you look so much like an elite elite

Sam [00:03:02]:
I do. I Oh, I know. I was thinking that. I’m like, yes. Because I was thinking, if I said I wasn’t an elite athlete, she’d be like, what You do? Like, what do I say?

Chris [00:03:15]:
I play darts. Yeah.

Sam [00:03:16]:
I know. Yeah. Snooker or something. So that was pretty good, and I got my

Chris [00:03:23]:
So so was it cold coming back into you?

Sam [00:03:26]:
Nah. Nah? Nah. Didn’t didn’t Didn’t notice any of that. Didn’t it?

Chris [00:03:31]:
The blood being chilled and put back into your vein? No.

Sam [00:03:33]:
I didn’t have that. Didn’t have the tingling, but the monitor thing that Is doing the machine that’s doing everything has, like, a little screen and there’s, like, a a body outline, and it’s showing you filling up and filling down on it. You know, because it does for me, I did four Cycles, which is, 800 mils is what they took out and put back in. And it beeps, and then you look at it, and then it Changes and pumps it back in. And yeah. But they gave me my little card, my little my little token for my free Wi Fi. How much how much do you think I was allowed?

Chris [00:04:06]:
200 meg.

Sam [00:04:08]:
Yes. You are exactly right.

Chris [00:04:10]:
It’s just standard. Hotels only 200 meg and stuff, and I’m like, why? What? Why?

Sam [00:04:18]:
I know. I was thinking that, and I was like, Oh, this is cool. And yeah. So that went really well. That’s pretty much all I’ve been doing with that, but it is New Zealand Secret Santa Time.

Chris [00:04:29]:
Yes.

Sam [00:04:33]:
And Sam podcast. Now my individual person actually tweeted what they liked, And I managed to get something for that person. It was a guy, so it was good. I will send that I don’t even know what today is. What’s today? I’ll send that tomorrow, on Friday. Yep. So that’s cool. The Christmas When’s the deadline?

Chris [00:04:50]:
It’s the 10th next week. 10th. What’s the day’s at?

Sam [00:04:53]:
It’s the, Wednesday? It’s 4th now. Yeah. Sounds Sounds good.

Chris [00:04:57]:
Yeah. About Wednesday.

Sam [00:04:58]:
That’s when you have to send it. The final date for them to get it is 16th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So if you leave it too late, you have to courier to them instead of normal post.

Chris [00:05:07]:
Yeah. Okay. I might see if I can get rid get it out on Monday then. Okay.

Sam [00:05:11]:
But you’re still you getting your birthday?

Chris [00:05:14]:
I have no idea. I had a look at her.

Sam [00:05:16]:
You’ve got a female.

Chris [00:05:17]:
And, yeah, there was no clues, really. Seems like cool person and stuff, but there’s no clues on what she wanted. Mind you, that was the 1st day that I got the thing, so I haven’t gone back and Stocks match since We

Sam [00:05:29]:
I asked them who the person was before, and he couldn’t even find it.

Chris [00:05:32]:
Even remember. So I gotta find that email.

Sam [00:05:34]:
So if you’re a Chris and Sam, good luck. As for the Chris and Sam podcast Secret Santa gift recipient Yes. He seems to have left the country. Yeah.

Chris [00:05:46]:
He But

Sam [00:05:47]:
he didn’t even see where he was going.

Chris [00:05:49]:
I suppose I at Finn something. I thought he was going to Finland.

Sam [00:05:52]:
Oh, maybe. I don’t know. He hasn’t tweeted too much, and I, I don’t know.

Chris [00:05:58]:
We’ll have a look. We’ll we will we will definitely get into stalker mode at some point.

Sam [00:06:02]:
Really wanna yeah. We’ll send him something. He he did he did mention Hamilton in a tweet, so we’re thinking we might get

Chris [00:06:08]:
something to do with that. He did use the hashtag tag. Love the Tron. Happy birthday, Hamilton, because it was bit Hamilton’s birthday.

Sam [00:06:14]:
Did you go to that birthday tour?

Chris [00:06:15]:
That was brilliant. I didn’t go for the whole time. I came home for lunch, dinner rather, and then I went out and I end up going to a movie. So I I missed a lot of the night stuff, but

Sam [00:06:24]:
I went

Chris [00:06:24]:
for some stuff during the day. It was wonderful. There was some really cool shit going on. Yeah. And, yeah. So one of the interesting things, if I’ve got time to tell you, Is that, I I stopped at I was at a Wintec stand, and there was a guy in there, and he had a 3 d printer. And he used

Sam [00:06:43]:
to Oh, cool. Yeah.

Chris [00:06:44]:
Printing stuff. So we had a talk. He’s a engineering. He was a student, but now he’s sort of tutor there.

Sam [00:06:51]:
Yeah. I think that’s how they do it.

Chris [00:06:52]:
Yeah. Something like that. You you

Sam [00:06:53]:
you get learn you you learn everything, and then you just start working there.

Chris [00:06:57]:
Yeah. And we, we talked for an hour. It was it was amazing. So I learned quite a few things. It was interesting because one of the things he talked about because I said, have you seen the the thing on YouTube about the nano sculpture? Have you seen it?

Sam [00:07:13]:
I don’t think so.

Chris [00:07:14]:
Okay. So this South African artist.

Sam [00:07:16]:
Oh, yes. Sorry. He’s the guy in New z ANZ brought over?

Chris [00:07:20]:
No. No. Not that guy. No. No. This is nano. Oh. Nano.

Chris [00:07:23]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, ridiculously. Microscope. Got a he told the whole story on this YouTube video. It’s worth checking out the video. But he got this woman, and she posed in, This room with, like, a 150 cameras around her, so it photos photos her body and wire Yep.

Chris [00:07:45]:
Frame Wireframe thing. And then he’s made it down to a tiny, tiny thing, And they had these printed, these guys that are into 3 d print in Czechoslovakia or some or Germany Germany, I think it was. Yep. And the university said, can you print at a nano level? So, basically, Upshop was they sent him a little mirror, and it’s about An inch square or something. Yep. And there were 7 statues on it.

Sam [00:08:13]:
Woah.

Chris [00:08:14]:
And, he couldn’t find them for ages with a microscope. It took hours and hours to find them because it’s so small.

Sam [00:08:22]:
And do they show them in the YouTube clip what they look like?

Chris [00:08:24]:
He took he took it so he takes it to the there’s a long story, and the story is awesome. And he takes it to a, a guy that that films blood plasma and stuff Yeah.

Sam [00:08:34]:
You know, for a living.

Chris [00:08:35]:
Yeah. And said, can I get photos of these? Because, you know, people aren’t gonna believe it. And so, apparently, the guy took photos of stuff and and shows those photos and, which is wonderful, but he said at one point, the guy goes, I’ve just repositioned the mirror. Oops. And then they’re looking, and they just couldn’t find the statues. And he said, give me the mirror. Let me have a look. He goes, oh, okay.

Chris [00:09:00]:
And there’s a big thumbprint across the middle of the mirror,

Sam [00:09:03]:
the guy.

Chris [00:09:04]:
And they’re like, where are these statues? I’m like, Oh, my thumb, maybe? And that’s it. They’ve lost them. They’ve lost all 7. So I’m like, is this real, or is this a freaking awesome story that he’s just created. Because if the statues never existed, it doesn’t matter. This is such a good story.

Sam [00:09:22]:
You wouldn’t go to that length to make up a story,

Chris [00:09:25]:
would don’t know. I don’t know. So, anyway, I, I’d and and it is worth checking out the story. Just search nano sculpture on on YouTube. But I, so I mentioned it to this guy. I said, well, you know, a 3 d printer that can print at nano level, that, like, I doesn’t sound right to me. And he said, well, no. The bit the the high spec ones do titanium dust, and it’s fused at The intersection of light of a laser.

Chris [00:09:51]:
So as fine as you can focus a laser is as fine as you can potentially create something. Something. So he reckons it’s possible. And then he went on, he said, well, there’s that thing about the needle that’s been going back and forth from America to China. I’m like, a needle? He goes, yeah. So the Americans engraved on inside the head of a needle, some some message,

Sam [00:10:15]:
and

Chris [00:10:16]:
they sent it to Chinese to show off how good they are. And the Chinese sent it back a couple of months later, and the Americans looked at it, and they hadn’t engraved anything. And they went, What are you?

Sam [00:10:25]:
Yeah. What are you doing?

Chris [00:10:26]:
And they said, oh, look at the end. And they drilled 2 or 3 holes from one end of the pin to the other at a At a at a microscopic level. And so, apparently, this needle’s gone back and forth, like, 5 times and And something amazing’s happened every time. So he’s telling me these facts.

Sam [00:10:45]:
Yep. Yep.

Chris [00:10:46]:
So I get home and, thought, right. I’m gonna talk about this on the podcast. I’ll just do a little bit of research. And so I went on to Snopes

Sam [00:10:55]:
Yeah. Yeah.

Chris [00:10:55]:
And there is the Drilling a hole in the wire. Legend. And it’s happened from 240 BC. Oh, wow.

Sam [00:11:05]:
So it’s a lot of Egyptians

Chris [00:11:06]:
and stuff, and it’s been regurgitated year after year, and it’s the same sort of thing. Somebody makes this in in World War 2 or just before World War 2, I should say, there was the story that, the Germans asked for the finest filament wire that the Americans could Could make, and they made something like the thickness of the hair, and they thought it was awesome. They sent it to Germans, and the Germans looked at it for a few months, sent it back, and they go, oh, yeah. They couldn’t do that, and then they realized the gyms had drilled a hole through the middle down the length of it. Yeah. And so it’s it’s the same thing. And so

Sam [00:11:43]:
That’s good to know.

Chris [00:11:43]:
If you hear that Needle thing? It’s probably fine. Yeah. And it just goes to show those stories that resonate with us quite often.

Sam [00:11:58]:
Skeptical?

Chris [00:11:58]:
Skeptical. I know I embellish some of my stories. 1 1 or 2 of them.

Sam [00:12:02]:
1 or 2 of them. I haven’t caught you out yet. So

Chris [00:12:07]:
Anyway, I thought I’d I’d share that little, tale. Very good.

Sam [00:12:11]:
So it was pretty good because, I don’t know what the celebration I don’t know if they’re carrying on anything at the moment. It’s just that when I came down, You know, Victoria Street coming to your house. They had some crazy woman doing some karaoke in, center in, garden place.

Chris [00:12:28]:
Yeah. Yeah.

Sam [00:12:28]:
I don’t know what that was about, and it was from what I could gather as I drove past with the window down, she was singing a song about Jesus And he was coming or something, and there was some weird dude dressed as Santa running around.

Chris [00:12:42]:
Yeah. I I walked down earlier, Coming home, and, I saw Santa singing as I was walking past.

Sam [00:12:49]:
He was lurking on the side. Yeah.

Chris [00:12:51]:
Well, he was singing at the time I went past. So, yeah. Yeah. I don’t know. I don’t know whether is that the lighting of the tree? That wouldn’t be today. They wouldn’t do it on us.

Sam [00:12:58]:
Well, last year, I’m pretty sure it was last year, the Hamilton City Councilors Muted that Hamilton would be the Christmas city, which makes not much sense to anyone and it sound like a waste of time in that. But The sign when you come into Hamilton, which is usually got a picture of something from the zoo or the hot air balloons, Now has a big sign, and it says welcome to Hamilton, Christmas City. And it’s a Christmas scene, so I’m guessing they’re going with that thing.

Chris [00:13:27]:
Woo hoo. Well, it’s it’s probably quite cheap. The decorations are cheap. They’re everywhere. You can just go and buy them.

Sam [00:13:32]:
Well, they’re really cheap because they don’t need to do anything. They all just go to, Harafield Crescent.

Chris [00:13:38]:
I don’t

Sam [00:13:38]:
know if you’ve been there.

Chris [00:13:39]:
I’ve never been there. I’ve heard about it.

Sam [00:13:41]:
It’s intense. I went there once, and you wander around, And there’s always 1 house that doesn’t do anything. Yeah. So that’s fine. And there’s 1 guy that goes full on, and he usually The last couple of times I’ve been, he’s got a actual donkey, a live donkey, so you can pet this donkey. And he had this full on laser machine thing going. It was blasting laser beams everywhere, and he had this whole sheet. And it laid out how many lights he had and everything And how much it costs to run every day.

Sam [00:14:15]:
Yeah. And it was it was pretty good. It was really cool when he goes full on. And the other house that I saw was well, Well, there was someone asleep slash dead in a chair, but they were, like, inside the house. So we went right up and was staring in, and I couldn’t tell if the guy was breathing. It was pretty cool. They had a nice display. Merry Christmas.

Chris [00:14:35]:
Oh, yeah. That that’s that’s pretty cool. And it’s like, you know, that that Dead person’s just left over from Halloween. We just don’t like to move them.

Sam [00:14:44]:
We move

Chris [00:14:45]:
them next

Sam [00:14:45]:
year. Maybe.

Chris [00:14:48]:
Yeah. So, speaking of bags, you’re in a in a unique sort of chair thing at the moment.

Sam [00:14:56]:
Yeah. It’s I don’t even know what it’s called. It’s from the Better Back Company. And it’s, to describe this thing, it’s around my waist, And then it goes around my legs, and it’s like makes you sit upright. And it’s what they call like a portable seat, and you can use it anywhere. So it stops you sort of slouching backwards and forwards. And right now, I don’t know if I’ve got it too far at my knees or not. I don’t know what I’m doing.

Sam [00:15:19]:
It’s okay, but

Chris [00:15:21]:
I yeah.

Sam [00:15:21]:
I don’t know if I’ve got it too tight or what, but I will tell you the really, really big story about my back. Yeah. Go for it. So 2 Christmases ago, I think it was, running around because I am the, He’s modifying cables and stuff as we talk. I am the adult at Christmas gatherings or parties or birthday parties that ends up doing everything with the kids. So I’m the guy on the trampoline. I’m the guy pushing him on the swings. I’m the guy hanging from something.

Sam [00:16:01]:
Other people, not so much. So that’s usually what happens. We had this 2 years ago, we had this monster water fight all running around running around, and I grabbed My daughter because she’s grabbing her, and I threw her up in the air, and then something went twinge in my leg, And it sorta got worse and worse. And I had pain in my leg up to my buttock, I think, is the technical term there. So that was all good. I ended up going to the doctor and he said, right. I’ve had that before. It’s your hamstring.

Sam [00:16:40]:
You pulled a hammy. It’s real bad. Go see this guy. And, and the guy I worked with actually said, yeah. I’ll go to that guy. He’s really good. Real good physio. Go see him.

Sam [00:16:52]:
So go see this guy And it’s it’s at his house and he’s got a room off one of the rooms in his house and he’s got, like, I think it’s 2 tables, maybe 3. Two tables and everything’s just divided off by curtains. So when you’re in there, there Could be like 3 people, like, laid out on each table and he just goes between the curtains. And then he’s like, oh, yeah. No. That’s all good. Does a bit of movement and massage. Yeah.

Sam [00:17:16]:
We’ll fix Emmy. Then he hooks you up to this machine. I don’t know what they’re called. The it

Chris [00:17:23]:
it Hypers?

Sam [00:17:24]:
No. It twitches your muscles.

Chris [00:17:25]:
Alright. Right. Right.

Sam [00:17:26]:
He, like, sticks his pads on and then he cranks it right up and he says, tell me, you know, until you can’t take anymore. So I’m doing that doing that. Yeah. Nah. Oh, bit of so I was going to the Scott heaps. And I was like, nah. It’s not it’s not getting right. You know? He goes, oh, where Where does it hurt? I said, oh, it’s starting to hurt up here.

Sam [00:17:44]:
And he says, oh, what it is is your, site. The muscle around the sciatic nerve is punching it. Yeah. We can work that out. So hooked up to this machine more. Really hurts like Been in your league the wrong way that it’s not supposed to go. I’m not to, to start off with, I’m not very flexible at all. So as an elite athlete.

Sam [00:18:08]:
As an elite as an elite athlete, I don’t do stretches. But anyway so that carried on, And then I basically got sick of the physio guy and someone said go to this osteopath. Going to see this osteopath. He’s Irish, and he’s he’s good, but, like, crazy Irish. And he goes, you’re not right. And anyway, it turns out he was really, really good. And then he pushed me and really pushed. Like, he wrote when he writes a letter, people pay attention to this guy.

Sam [00:18:43]:
So I’ve got a friend in Wellington who’s been waiting 20 weeks for an MRI This guy, I had a MRI within 6 days. It was good. And that’s an experience. Have you had one of them?

Chris [00:19:02]:
No. No. Tell tell me about it.

Sam [00:19:04]:
Oh, they put you in this little room, take everything off, make sure you got no metal, and they they ask you, like, do you have this? Do you have that? Do you have implants? Do you have, plates, pins. No. No. Okay. You put on this little weird robe and then they lay you down on the the bed thing And then they put some headphones on and they wander off into another room, like a control room, and they can see you and they’re like, can you hear us? It’s like, yeah. Okay. What music do you want? But what radio station? So they they give you a radio station. You can hear it and but they’re really faint.

Sam [00:19:38]:
So when they talk, it’s

Speaker A [00:19:39]:
like this. Are you okay there? It’s okay. You’re alright.

Sam [00:19:43]:
And I’m like, what? Because once they go into the machine and there’s no room in this machine. Like, you’re almost touching it. Like, the it’s and and it’s a big machine. It’s huge, but the openings were a little. So you go in and It it’s so loud, like, and you’re trying to hear them and they’re like, oh, not much longer now, and they get the machine and you know and they’ll tell you to stay still, And then the machine does its stuff and you get all the imaging. So the way they described it to me was, 2 of my vertebrae squished dealer and the goo between them pokes out and hits my sciatic nerve. That’s the technical term.

Chris [00:20:19]:
Alright.

Sam [00:20:20]:
And and honestly, they all just say, look, you will come right Eventually, it just takes time. And at this point in time, I was on tramadol, and that was, like, making me dopey. Like, you take it, and you’re just space. You don’t know what’s going on. And I was rolling around on the floor most of the day. That’s all I could do, so I didn’t go to work for about 2 weeks. And they just said, you know, this is all you can do. This is all you can do.

Sam [00:20:44]:
This is all you can do. And the osteopathic guy was doing his stuff and fixed me up. I got to the point where I went to the emergency department at the hospital, and I said, this is I I can barely move. I can’t do anything. I couldn’t think, so I couldn’t even sit on the computer. I just laid on the floor or on bed and tried to sleep and doped myself out on tramadol. And even just said, look. It’s just gonna take time.

Sam [00:21:11]:
No one will, no one wants to operate on you. Basically, you’re way too young. Blah blah blah. So So it was all good, and eventually, it did come right. I had a twinge last Christmas, and I was a little bit achy, zip lining, so it was all good. And just 2 weeks ago, I stepped off a deck like a ledge and My leg well, my back hurt, and it just got worse and worse and worse. So back to the doctor, got some more tramadol. Tramadol doesn’t affect me anymore.

Sam [00:21:44]:
It’s pretty much I can just take it whenever I want. It’s like taking Panadol. Nothing really happens. That’s crazy.

Chris [00:21:50]:
But but it does dull the pain.

Sam [00:21:52]:
No. Not really.

Chris [00:21:52]:
Oh, I

Sam [00:21:52]:
don’t it’s hard to tell. I don’t know. The pain’s so severe. So back to the osteopath, I went and he said, He said it’s not sciatica because your leg doesn’t hurt. You’ve got back spasms. And it got to the point where it was so sore. I came to the realization that All these other people I know that seem to be in great pain, which don’t really seem to be in that much pain, all end up with crutches. So I said to the guy, how the hell do I get some crutches? And he said, oh, I’ll just write you a note.

Sam [00:22:22]:
And then you go to A&E and they’ll you gotta pay some money.

Chris [00:22:25]:
And I was,

Sam [00:22:26]:
so I had some crutches for about 2 days, And I was hobbling around home, so that was pretty handy. I’m gonna take them back today, get some money back because I’m much better right now. And The general consensus from the osteopath, and he did tell me something that backs this up, is that I’ve got a really high pain threshold. So most people wouldn’t be able to actually go see this guy, whereas I’m sort of walking around and all this. So I was there on, What’s today? Thursday. I was there on Tuesday and he said to me, oh, because what happened was my doctor goes, I’m gonna, we’ll book you in for an x-ray. And I was like, cool. What’s that gonna show? He goes, oh, I might show you something if something do with the bones.

Sam [00:23:06]:
So I was like, oh, okay. And he goes, it’s HCC is paying for it. It’s free. Let’s go. Like, okay. So anyway, I went I went and got this X-ray, and I had to wait there for, like because I’d

Chris [00:23:15]:
To me, just a question. If you’ve already had an MRI I I suppose that was a year ago.

Sam [00:23:23]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But but so I hate to wait, like, an hour at the X-ray place, and they were, like, really worried about me because I was, like, visibly in pain because I couldn’t walk I barely could walk in and I’d sort of sat on this couch and they said, look, we can reschedule this or and I said, look, I’m fine. I’m not gonna move off this couch. I’m good. So that was all good. Osteopath and he go, I won’t swear, but why the f have you gone for an x-ray? I said, because the doctor said so.

Sam [00:23:52]:
And he goes, what’s kind of show. I said, I don’t know. I’m not a doctor. And he said, oh, sounds like an idiot. He said, I wouldn’t do it because you’ve just been dosed with, like, all this radiation. And I said, look. They’ll just Take 5 photos because, it was hard to get me in the right position because I had to stand and it was so painful just standing there for 10 minutes. Yeah.

Sam [00:24:13]:
Anyway, it turns out he he goes, right. I’ve got the X-ray results. And it’s actually just a written thing, and it says everything’s fine. Spacing between my vertebrae is good. There’s no curvature of the spine and all this other stuff. Really, really good. And then he goes, I actually ancient injury further up your back. And he said, to put things in perspective, he goes, I’ve I’ve had a motorcycle crash and hurt the exact same spot, and I’m less stuffed than you are.

Sam [00:24:44]:
So what did you do about 25 years ago? And I said, I don’t know. And he said, the calcification that has grown on your bones And that takes about 25 years, so that’s why we’re basing it to 20 to 25 years ago. What did you go to hospital for when you did it? I’ve never been to hospital for my back. He’s like, well, you must have done something. Are you afraid of riding bikes? Are you afraid of heights? No. He said whatever you’ve done would have been really major. You had done it as a kid, and it should have given you a phobia of whatever that thing is. Anyway, no we don’t know what that is.

Chris [00:25:17]:
It’s interesting because our friend, Kim, you you know, she broke her neck

Sam [00:25:21]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:25:21]:
And nobody she didn’t know, and nobody told her. And No. So she went When she was having some other issue, she went and got a thing, and they said, oh, you didn’t tell us you broke your neck. And she’s like, I never broke my neck. But she did get Whiplash. She she’d been rear ended or something in a car as I recall. And, the whiplash apparently broke her spine, but nobody noticed and never did anything. And, of course, you know, Her neck hurt, and she was in a a neck brace or whatever for weeks weeks and stuff like that.

Chris [00:25:47]:
Yeah. But yeah. So, I, fortunately, have never had any touch Mitch Wood. Problems with my back. Although, if I have to sit like this with this microphone for too much longer, that might and Change.

Sam [00:26:00]:
Blame the Chinese blame the Chinese for not sending these arm mounts.

Chris [00:26:05]:
We need some proper microphone phone holder thingy.

Sam [00:26:08]:
Yeah. So that’s what’s happened with my back slowly coming right. Just have to be real careful of my problems.

Chris [00:26:25]:
Yeah. That’s what people are tuning in for Yep. Every day. Yeah. Yeah.

Sam [00:26:30]:
This is gonna be this is gonna be the highest downloaded podcast.

Chris [00:26:34]:
So if you need a episode is Sam’s.

Sam [00:26:37]:
Might yeah. Sam’s dodgy back. If you need an osteopath in Hamilton, get in touch. Yeah. You’re really really good.

Chris [00:26:42]:
What what’s his name?

Sam [00:26:43]:
I have no idea. Can’t remember.

Chris [00:26:45]:
But you can put a link in the show notes?

Sam [00:26:47]:
I I think I can.

Chris [00:26:49]:
If he’s got a website, you can.

Sam [00:26:50]:
Yeah. Yeah. I will do.

Chris [00:26:51]:
If not, you put his name in there.

Sam [00:26:53]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He’ll he’ll love it.

Chris [00:26:54]:
Alright. So there you go. Check and The show notes. Yes. At the chris and sam podcast.com. Yes. And we are chris and sam pod and Oh, at Chris and Sampod on Twitter. Is that right?

Sam [00:27:09]:
Yes. Yes. Yes. That is correct. So I think

Chris [00:27:11]:
to be blank

Sam [00:27:12]:
I was looking at Facebook when you were saying that.

Chris [00:27:14]:
Yeah. No. Twitter. Because people wanna start looking at us on Twitter and try and figure out if we are stalking them for the Chris Secret Santa.

Sam [00:27:23]:
Secret Santa. Yeah. Actually, you know, if the person that has got us is probably wondering, who are these 2, And what are they gonna get us?

Chris [00:27:32]:
It our Twitter’s profile’s been set up so it points to the website. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So they’ll be listening to our stuff?

Sam [00:27:39]:
Yeah. Yeah. They’ll be listening. So if you

Chris [00:27:41]:
look if you manage to listen to this particular podcast before the cutoff date, Something for his back. I’m thinking some balm.

Sam [00:27:49]:
Oh, no. I’ve got everything. I’ve got everything. I’ve got a weak bag. I’ve got another brace on, actually, that I normally wear, and then I’ve got this weird seat thing. What else did I end up getting? I just it’s all sorts. It’s just crazy.

Chris [00:28:02]:
We should take a photo of that, season.

Sam [00:28:05]:
No. No. We won’t.

Chris [00:28:06]:
You’re not wearing any modeling pants.

Sam [00:28:09]:
Not at all.

Chris [00:28:12]:
Alright. So, I think that’s pretty much us for today.

Sam [00:28:17]:
That pretty much is us because we’ve filled it up with the exciting world of sciatica and bad backs. Actually, I’ve got something really quickly here.

Chris [00:28:26]:
I I do wanna say, Big shout out to Hamilton City Council for that birthday party for Hamilton. It was really good. Like, there was so much going on that day. There was a bunch of stuff I wanted to talk about at the time. We haven’t got time today, but it was brilliant. That it was a real family thing out there. There was, You know, the cricket guys were there with nets and things for the kids to do. There was, my mate John from, balloons.co.nz, I think school.

Chris [00:28:54]:
I think that’s his website. Cool. They were doing free games for the kids. There was the big, what do you call the big horses with the Shaggy feet. Clydesdales. Clydesdales. That’s the one. Clydesdales with the trolley in them and, you know, 3 blocks were were Blocked off from traffic, and, yeah.

Sam [00:29:14]:
I’m a bit gutted around the south of peace.

Chris [00:29:16]:
Thousands of people there. It was great. Yeah. Anyway, so that was my big thanks to, Hamilton City Council. They know how to pass.

Sam [00:29:23]:
Because there was a bit of a talk about, some of the events they were having or we’re thinking about leading up to it weren’t that good. People were worried about it. Yeah. And I’m too.

Chris [00:29:35]:
I think it was brilliant. One thing I’m I’m annoyed that I missed was, the riffraff thing. They they had a thing for riffraff because there’s also riffraff statues, I’m going to the movies that night to Interstellar, which I will talk about on a subsequent podcast.

Sam [00:29:57]:
Yes.

Chris [00:29:58]:
But yeah. So I was annoyed that I missed that because that sounds like that awesome show.

Sam [00:30:02]:
Does. Because they were all dressed up when they was dressed up. Time warp.

Chris [00:30:06]:
Yes. Yeah. A mass time warp. Very good. You were gonna say something?

Sam [00:30:10]:
No. No.

Chris [00:30:10]:
No. No.

Sam [00:30:11]:
We’re out of time now.

Chris [00:30:11]:
We’re done. Okay.

Sam [00:30:13]:
Thanks for listening.

Chris [00:30:14]:
Yep. And, we know you have a choice, so thank you for listening to us.

Sam [00:30:18]:
Yeah. Awesome.

Chris [00:30:20]:
Bye.

Sam [00:30:20]:
Okay. See