Summary
Sam is back from Thames, find out how many museums he checked out and if he found any gold. Oh yeah we have an update on those submarine people too.
Russia had a bit of a revolt by a private contractor company, but then it stopped. What is going on?
News came out about a cleaner destroying 25 years worth of samples in a lab in the US. How dumb was this person?
We talk about the Belgium shot putter stepping up and taking on the hurdles. A Scottish woman who feels no pain, and is an all female crew to Mars the best option?
All this and much more in this weeks podcast.
Links
Submarine Imploded
Thames Museum
Thames Museum of Technology
Thames School of Mines
The Goldmine Experience Thames
Russia has a revolt
Cleaner destroys labs important work
Belgium shot putter does the hurdles
Scottish woman has no pain receptors
Are female only crews to Mars a good idea?
Show Transcript
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Sam [00:00:28]:
Hello, and welcome to episode 436 of the Chris and Sam podcast. I’m Chris. And I’m Sam. Welcome along to your weekly fix of randomness technology and life and submarine updates. Last week, we were talking about the submarine at the end, and we were gonna wonder if they were gonna have enough oxygen to survive.
Chris [00:00:44]:
Wasn’t it a problem? There’s a turn down.
Sam [00:00:47]:
If you haven’t seen the news, they did not make it. It imploded.
Chris [00:00:52]:
Yeah. And and it would have been quick. We were talking about this the other day, randomly, it came up somehow, but it would have been quicker than if you if you got shot out of the spacecraft in space. If you were in space,
Sam [00:01:05]:
Yeah. So — It would last longer, like, 15 seconds, I think it is, or something. Whereas where they were, it would have been a millisecond. Or it depends what it depends what you read because it was an expert I saw, and he said it’s 4 milliseconds for your spine to tell your brain something’s going on. That would have been gone on 2. And then something else was 50 milliseconds. Like, when we’re talking milliseconds, doesn’t really matter. They pulled out the records today. Some photos of that. Did they? I haven’t. Not the bit they were in because I don’t think there’s much of that left, but it was sort of the bits that they found. Did you see the
Chris [00:01:37]:
interview that Cameron James Cameron? I haven’t watched it yet. Oh, it’s really good because he really knows his stuff. Well, he’d been down, like, 33 times or something. Well, he’s — Was he further, though, He’s been twice as deep or something. Oh, he went to the bottom of the Mariana trench, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Something it wasn’t the Mariana. It was a different 1. Okay. But he and his — Yeah. — his purpose built Yeah. Sure. He basically 1 of the things he said is, I engineered that. Like, I was involved with all the engineering decisions. Yep. And I would there’s only 2 people that will ever go in there and drive it as me and the engineer I built it with. We would not let anybody else — Oh, you should go into — Oh, that’s good. Yeah. — with that. Like, that was his point. He goes, so the idea that this guy is using a test thing and
Sam [00:02:21]:
and letting other people pay to go in it was just crazy. But then he got the the carbon fiber from Boeing cheap because it had expired. Oh, really? Do you know that? No. It’s Oh, no. Yeah. It was like, oh, I got cheap carbon fiber from Boeing because apparently, it has expiry date, so I got a good deal.
Chris [00:02:38]:
But yeah. No. Cameron went into quite a bit of detail about composites and why and how they dlaminate — Yeah. — and all that sort of thing. And it it was really, really interesting, and and it just gave me a whole other perspective on it. The level of understanding? Understanding about James Cameron. Oh, yeah. He’s talks about, you know, in the submersible
Sam [00:03:03]:
community, like, because he’s in that. Like, that’s big big way, and it’s like, oh, yeah. I hadn’t really thought of it. So there’s a thing as well that came out this week. I think it was on quitter maybe and heaps and heaps of times. James Cameron’s in interviews or behind the camera or anything, he’s got a Fox Motocross shirt on. He just has the Fox logo. And if someone goes, why? And they tried finding out. I can’t remember. It made me it might have been even David Ferri. I can’t remember somebody. I think he might have had that on in the interview, actually. Yeah. I know. Can’t remember. I did I wouldn’t have noticed. And and they were sort of like, why? And they were asking all these people. Actually, I think it was a random spin off article. And they were trying to find out, and nobody could say. But, basically, he got really into motocross, and he just likes wearing their shit. Well, they get and he he’ll turn up to awards, and he’s just got like, he accepts an award. He’s got a black shirt with the Fox logo on. Just where is it? So I think he’s 1 of those guys that goes full on into whatever he’s interested in. Yeah. Yeah. No. A hundred percent. Hundred percent.
Chris [00:04:07]:
Talking about movies. Yes. The trailer for surgical precision has been released — Yes. — into the wild and social media.
Sam [00:04:16]:
Looks pretty good. Looks pretty good. There’s a few little shots with Chris there. Yeah. Come on. Come on. It’s gonna be good to see you
Chris [00:04:23]:
Yes. So in whatever you do? We’ve got a cast and crew thing. You haven’t got an invite today yet? I wasn’t in the cast or crew. You weren’t, but I’ll I’ll invite you. So, yeah, we’ll we’ll get you along. I think it’s the end of the end of the month, end of not this month, obviously, next month. Okay. Cool. We’ll figure that out.
Sam [00:04:42]:
I was in Tim’s on the weekend. Tim’s. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When do I run? How’d you how’d your weekend go? It was great. The place we stayed at, it was this little cottage It used to be a minor slash fisherman cottage. This woman when she was 6 years old, some reason decided when I’m older, I’m gonna live in TEMS. Okay? So she buys this all and I mean, rundown Shaq. Absolute Shaq. And they transported some of it there on a barge, and some of it must have already been there, and they sort of just plonked it there. And in the little book about it, it said they must have got some shady guy to do the piles, and eventually, it just started sinking. So they gutted the whole thing and rebuilt it from scratch basically, and it was lovely and wonderful. Had this bath that’s like, I don’t know, 1.2 meters tall, but he stooped, like, stupidly huge bath, which is great, and a sparkle outside of You need steps to get into the bath? Almost. Almost. Like, if you were short, you’re just, like, flopping to it and hope for the best. No. That was pretty cool. But, of course, you know, it’s a trip, and it’s me. So I think we went to 3 museums on Saturday. So I went to the and it’s really cool because they’re all different. But once you go to all of them, everything locks into place. So TMS is a gold mining town, and they realized there was some gold there. 18000 people basically turned up overnight. And it was absolutely mental. Now the golden Thames is locked in courts, which is crazy. So we went to the normal Thames Museum, which is the old schoolhouse. And then after that, we went to the technology museum, which is built on the exact site of this huge and they’ve got parts of it outside. And then they’ve built obviously, it was easier for them to build these giant cogs and machinery out of wood and just paint it, so they did that. And it’s the huge water pump because the biggest problem is when they’re mining so far down, they’re gonna pump all the water out. And this place used to just flood. So they had this huge pump, and this is 1 of the biggest ones. It’s to pump all the water out. They get all the stuff. And then the school of mines are set up in Timbs, And that’s been there since the get go, and it’s all the original buildings, and they take you around. And they taught people how to mine. And it was the best place in the world to learn. It was more ahead scientifically technology than anywhere else in the world. At what time? 18 69. I think it it all kicked off, and they built this, and they would train it. And all these gold miners would go in and go, Here’s my sample of quartz. Does this have gold in it? And there’s a whole process in all these chemicals they use. They break it down. They bake it in a hot oven thousand degrees. Do it again. Do it again. Yes. There’s gold. No. There isn’t. Try again. Now all these people had their own little claim and they had little gold mines, and they showed us a map. And I swear some of these claims all these gold mines must have been about the size of this living room when we’re in now. So it’s like a little square, and it would be called unicorn mine. And it had all these crazy names like magic mine. And from back there, that was pretty cool. And then they get all the courts. And the next day, we went to the gold gold mine experience. And at these other places, they had little models of these things called stampers. And now big machines that just crush quartz. Yep. Yep. And they’ve got a working 1 there. So put ear earmuffs on, and it’s ridiculously loud, and this thing’s just smashing quartz. And is that underground where it does that, or or you bring it up and you No. They’re bringing that up. Yep. So that that the yep. And and when we before we went on this tour there, the guy says, go down to that room and watch this video. And I don’t know when it was shot, must have been early 19 hundreds, I’m guessing, black and white video film, and they name every person that they’re filming. There’s a old biggie, what’s his face, and Jimmy thing. They’re just gonna get their money, but they showed the whole mining thing. And I was just like, they to film it, they would have had an old school crazy huge camera underground with these minors. And they follow the whole process, and all these guys are just playing up to the cameras? Like because it must be such a novelty, and it was really cool. And it explained everything, and it showed it. They’re like, now we bring it up. And then they had, like, a little tiny train that pulled all these their own private line. And it would go all the way down. And they’ve already weighed all the cuts, and there’s a guy writing it all down. Then later on, they do all the stuff. And then when the gold comes out, they know who they have to pay and who it goes to. But this process takes so long. Some of these mines were shut down before they got paid because they couldn’t strike any gold. Yeah. But this stamp of thing, they have I think the 1 we looked at had 5, 5 pistons basically, smashing up and down, so it’s all good. The crazy thing is, at the height of gold mining in TMS, they had 700 of these things. 700 of these machines going. Tempers. Yeah. 20 476 days of the week. And to them, it was weird when they shut them down for the 1 day. They couldn’t deal with the silence. If 1 stopped out of the 700, the rhythm of TEMS, they knew it changed, and they knew somebody had probably been killed. There was an accident. It was that was the only reason they sort of turned it off. Yeah. So all the kids and people the woman would come running from town, I guess, to see which 1 it was because they could sense it. Anyway
Chris [00:10:16]:
That that’s that’s interesting.
Sam [00:10:17]:
Yeah. Yeah. It’s crazy. Some
Chris [00:10:20]:
So you didn’t go down the mine? Well, yes. We did. So the
Sam [00:10:26]:
got my experience. The guy’s like, oh, it’s weird because There’s no health and safety talk. He vaguely mentioned something about going somewhere, and then he’s just like, follow me. And he just walks and just out and then there’s like a just all you know, a mind shaft. You just walk in. He and then he goes, oh, it’s about the size of football field. We’ll pop out over there. Okay? So we just walked through there. And there’s, you know, there’s tunnels and stuff going everywhere, and he’s like, oh, here’s a piece of quartz here. And he says the problem here is they were tunneling left to right. But the courts only ever runs this way, the opposite way. And he goes, here’s a piece here. And as you can see, he shines a torch, and he goes, they went down there a little bit. And it’s just like mind shops just everywhere and just this little tiny thing that they started. And, you know, they didn’t build it there. It was actual miners had done it. It just went in a loop, and we went up and not down, up, and then we came back up. Oh, wow. Because I went to I went into mine
Chris [00:11:23]:
again, it’s like a a public thing, like a park or whatever — Yeah. — in Johannesburg. Oh, wow. Yeah. And that was a long way down. We went on a lift — Oh, wow. — going down and down. Yeah. That’d be crazy. I I didn’t worry me at all, but you saw the the so they they edit out, although using a fairly big gallery that of of something that was already quite big for people to go through. But they go, no. The skies didn’t work in this luxury of standing up. These are the reefs they worked on, and they had, like, dummies, you know, like — Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And these guys were crawling through these tiny spaces. I know. I know. It’s crazy. It’s that would have been a worry. That would have freaked me out. Yeah. But walking through it didn’t worry me too much. So after that, we could pan for gold. That little thing set up
Sam [00:12:15]:
And they actually 1 of their members because they they have, like, a group running it, they actually brought in some gold from Waihi and just sprinkled it in there. Because he said that they are they got actually, it was from the South Ireland because the gold from South Ireland is fluvial, so from the water. So it’s a bit bigger. He said, this court stuff’s just sprinkles, little tiny stuff. And now it’s time to talk about farmers, the department store. So farmers, the department store, Chris, if you sign up as a member of farmers, you get a gift on your birthday. Right? I’ve never got 1. No. No. I was supposed to email you and say, hey. Come in and get your gift, and you’ve got 2 weeks, I think, either side of your birthday to go get this thing. Right? Oh, yeah. If you’re yeah. I mean, if you remember. And this is mainly, I’m gonna say, geared towards woman. And they give you a choice of 1 to 4 items, I think, and it’s like either a pen, a makeup brush, or whatever. Right? So that’s all good. Sarah didn’t get the email last year, and she didn’t get it this year. But she gets all their other marketing emails. So she says, oh, We’re in Farmers on her birthday. We’re on a Saturday, and she goes, I’ll just go and ask them, you know, what the deal is here. Goes in, goes, hey. That’s my birthday today. I don’t I don’t get the emails anymore about this birthday thing. Oh, that’s strange. Okay. Hang on. On the keyboard? Oh, yeah. No. We can see that you’re signed up to our email newsletter list. I can see that you’re getting these emails, and you should be getting that email. Okay. I’m just gonna ring the help desk. So they bring up some help desk somewhere, and the help desk goes, Okay. It’s a bit stranger. No. Okay. No. No. We can’t help. No. Sorry. We can’t help with that. You need to do is ring this other number, this call center here, dial 9, talk to this person, then get them to authorize it, and then get that put through. And then they’ll tell these people in the help center that, yes, you’re allowed this free thing. And I was like, this seems more complicated than some sort of nuclear code thing. The way they were carrying on, I was like, this is a big organization. They could just give you like, they could literally check your driver’s license and see it was your actual birthday and just give you a pen or whatever the hell it is. And be happy about it. Yeah. Anyway — Yeah. No. No. The the levels of bureaucracy, I’m I’m not surprised. It’s crazy.
Chris [00:14:31]:
What did you think about Russia? What? A big random thing with Russia.
Sam [00:14:36]:
What? They said, oh, they they they got so far, and then then they threatened their family. And then they’re like, oh, better turn around. What is going on? Fill me in. I don’t know. I don’t know. It seemed crazy. So there was did you see the footage then digging up the roads? No. Oh, so They were so the Wagner Group led by whatever space is, they were trans yep. They were transporting all their tanks and equipment on big transporters. So the Russians got contractors or whoever and just said, dig up all the highways. So there was all these there was a video of, like, these random people on a highway And then there was just diggers ripping it up to dig a trench to slow them down — Yep. — because it had to unload everything. But
Chris [00:15:20]:
they just said, oh, yeah. You got so far, and then they were just like Yeah. So it’s 200 kilometers from from Moscow — Yeah. — is where they got, which is pretty damn close. How far away is Hamilton from Auckland? Less than that. Yeah. 1 80 maybe? No. Yeah. You’ll put him at that. It’s it’s — Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Similar sort of thing. There’s pretty close. But yeah. No. So pro supposedly, the Russian forces or the air force bombed precocious position — Oh, right. — and killed a bunch of his men. Oh. And he went, This is not on. And then he What did he expect? He’s he he went to take a lot of stuff. What whatever it’s called. The that’s the place where they state where all their their organization is, like — Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. — organizations. And which is a big town. And he went there, and everybody there just went, yep. You’re the man. Whatever you wanna do. Yeah. Like, There was nobody fighting. No. No. They were just They’re all like Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And the the public were, like, all behind them. But having said that, it it came across as if it was an all spirit of the moment thing. Yep. The the Americans already knew it was gonna happen 2 weeks before. Oh, of course. So he’d been planning it and getting a lot of this in place. Beforehand. I just thought he was gonna carry on and know that it’d be a — Yeah. But nobody’s really clear what’s going on with
Sam [00:16:49]:
how he got turned around. Yeah. I know. It seems a bit weird. Supposedly,
Chris [00:16:54]:
he was exiled Belarus. Somebody had suggested, are we not sure that he hasn’t been given Belarus? Yeah. You know? And the guy I got the blue Belarusian dude. Belarusian dude. He’s Putin never liked him much anyway. So yeah. I don’t know. We don’t know what’s happening, but Provotions making it a crap load of money. He’s he’s getting half a billion a year out of Africa. Yeah. That’s right. Because he’s yeah. That’s it. — all those gold mines of blood diamonds. So — Yeah.
Sam [00:17:25]:
It sounds like he looks after his guys quite well. Like, the way it was written was sort of like Really? He Apparently so. Compared to normal Russians that are just brought in. So his guys have paid really well apparently and looked after and Okay. Apparently, I don’t know. But I wasn’t reading anything about it. That all seemed pretty weird.
Chris [00:17:44]:
Yeah. Have you — But the whole thing has got to weaken. Poon. Oh, totally. Like, it’s Isn’t it? Yeah. Yeah. It just looks soft now. Totally soft. Have you ever been annoyed with a beeping sound?
Sam [00:17:58]:
Yes. Yes? Have you thought about just destroying that beeping sound by turning something off? Yeah. Maybe. So cleaner in the US I think it’s US, was it? Yeah. US cleaner. He has destroyed 25 years of research and laboratory by just turning off the annoying beeping sound?
Chris [00:18:18]:
25 years.
Sam [00:18:20]:
Oh, dear. I — So — So he’s looking for a job, I think. Well, the company he worked for is getting sued for a million dollars, at least. And Apparently, there was numerous cells and cultures and samples, and they the beep goes off when the temperature changes. And a fluctuation of 3 degrees could cause catastrophic damage to these items. So turning it off is not good. A sign yeah. A sign was placed on the freezer door that said, this is beeping as it’s under repair. Please do not remove or unplug it. No cleaning is required. Just leave it. You can press the alarm test mute button for 5 to 10 seconds if you would like to mute the sound. This dude said that he
Chris [00:19:07]:
He doesn’t
Sam [00:19:08]:
read that much? No. He thought it was off. And he went to the circuit breaker and flipped the switch, and he thought he was turning it back on as what he’s saying. But somebody I was reading on Reddit, I think, of all things, and somebody goes, I work in a lab, and we have very specialized cleaners that come in. They’re really highly trained just to clean very specific things, mainly the rubbish bins, and they know not to touch anything else. Like, this is so weird that this guy was in the circuit breaker touching stuff of all things. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, anyway, they’re a bit pissed.
Chris [00:19:44]:
Oh, yeah. They they would screw you up. I think you’re so annoyed. III wanted to mention this. III promise I’m not talking about Trump. But. But. But. So I heard the stat the other day. I was like, okay. Didn’t see that coming. Every US president, except Yeah. Donald Trump — Okay. — was descended from slave owners.
Sam [00:20:09]:
Oh, well oh,
Chris [00:20:13]:
Okay. Is that true? It’s true, apparently. Apparently. Because they just did a a thing. Something like 40 no. 30 something percent of the senate or congress 1 or the other, is is descended from slave owners, and it broke down to be, like, 28 percent of Republicans and 13 percent sent or whatever it was of — Okay. — Democrats. But yeah. I’d I’m like, yeah. But tell us how many have descended from slaves. Because the the difference the disparity between those is what would be interesting because you would think it’d be less. But it should be growing. You know what I mean? Like, it should be evening out over time? Yeah. I guess so. Yeah. I would assume. But they didn’t give that information. But, yeah, the the that thing about, you know, every US president except that Donald Trump was descended from slave owners. I’m like, is there a burn or not? I don’t know.
Sam [00:21:18]:
Don’t know. Have you been keeping up the European Athletic Championships? Nope. In Poland. Okay. So this is this is a pretty cool story. And so Belgium had 2 herdlers. That were going to race. Right? They had to pull out due to injury. Now if they did that, that means the whole Belgian team, no matter what they compete in, would have been disqualified.
Chris [00:21:46]:
That’s right. Because for athletics, you’ve got to be an x number of the events to for the whole team to qualify. Yes. So
Sam [00:21:55]:
the the Belgium shot put and hammer throw champion, stepped up to the mark, and ran the hundred meter hurdles.
Chris [00:22:04]:
Now — I actually saw that. She didn’t knock any hurdles over, but she ran it like I would. Like, it was great. When did I saw that? III didn’t know what was going on. I saw that, and I went, what is that? Shop putter running the hurdles, and I didn’t I didn’t have any context. That’s what it was. Right. She did it in 32 seconds, and the first place winner got it in 13 seconds. Because they were just, like, motoring it. And then there’s woman’s on the back just, like, She’s she’s running up to 1, and then and and you gotta say, like, she is not built.
Sam [00:22:37]:
Knock her pills. Like and then she’s, like, hopping sort of over it. And It almost sounds like some weird feel good movie that they could stretch out, like, cool runnings or something. And she’s, I’ve got this. Like, I’m sure it’s in the works.
Chris [00:22:52]:
But good on her. Good on her. Absolutely. I’m wondering
Sam [00:22:57]:
Yeah. I don’t know. Like, it’s good that she did it, but they must have been more suitable.
Chris [00:23:02]:
Yeah. Could you think a pole a pole holder or javelin throw or something would be a slightly better build for that or a or a triple jump.
Sam [00:23:11]:
Yeah. Oh, triple jump. Oh, yeah. That that sounds actually, probably.
Chris [00:23:15]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:23:15]:
That was pretty cool. I know. Oh, they found a woman in the in Scotland, I think. And they’ve realized that she has no pain receptors. She can’t feel any pain. And, apparently, it’s a rare genetic mutation So she had a serious operation and a good 1. No. It will Yeah. But I wonder how long she knew that she had this or not. So she had no pain relief after some major surgery for recovery. And now they’re they’re sort of looking at that mutation and how it works in a molecular level, and they said it could lead to development and new treatments. So she’s 75. She lives in Loch Ness of all places, and she only realizes, like, if her skin is burning, if she smells singed flesh, so she can’t feel that. There’s a
Chris [00:24:04]:
there’s a book I I read years and years ago. I think the first book’s called Lord Fouse Bane. Okay. It’s the Thomas Covenent series. And it’s the first book I read like, I read this when I was a teenager. That was an antiheroic This guy is the — Alright. — antihero. And I’d never come across the concept of antihero when I read this. Right? But, basically, he has leprosy And the whole point is that that’s deadening and things happen if you scratch yourself it can get infected. Yeah. You never feel it, so you don’t know. So he has to do the self check all the time to check that he hasn’t burned himself or cut himself or or anything like that. Same sort of deal. And and that’s the only reason I know. It’s like, yeah. Not having pain is a really bad thing. Yeah. Because if something happens to your skin, which is the biggest organ of your body, the covers your body — Exactly. And you don’t know about it and you don’t care for it, then it can be catastrophic.
Sam [00:25:08]:
Yeah. Yeah. Anyway So some people there’s not many people that have this. It’s called the FAAH hyphen 0UT gene. Far out.
Chris [00:25:17]:
Far out. Jean.
Sam [00:25:20]:
My daughter has a really high pain threshold as well, actually. Yeah. So she doesn’t know — You do either as well. I think so. Yeah. Yeah. But she doesn’t quite know sometimes if she stood herself. Anyway, yeah, that’s pretty interesting.
Chris [00:25:34]:
Now why would you have all female crews going to Mars?
Sam [00:25:38]:
Exactly. Great question. So they basically the they’ve had this thought since the seventies, and they’ve sort of changed it. But, originally, It was because they use less resources. The smaller people in general, they don’t need as many resources as a male crew And
Chris [00:25:58]:
And we can live with Adam. No.
Sam [00:26:02]:
That’s wrong. No. So, actually, this is since the 19 fifties. So they will consume less oxygen, water, food, and then Mindu. But now they’re sort of saying, like, you know what? Doesn’t really matter. We do need male crew as well, probably. All female crew would need 1695 kilos of less food, amounting to a saving of a hundred and 58000000 dollars for a 1080 day mission. Wow. It’s crazy. Yeah. So — — significant. It’s significant. So they got a metabolic advantage, yeah, than mean. But now they’re sort of saying they’ll probably use a mixed team. And they’re sort of looking at that what’s the name of that place in Hawaii where they lock them in for a year? Oh, well, I should have before. So they said diversity is the key now. There’s a picture of the people here. No? Might mean different story. But, yeah, they’re looking at that Hawaii don’t think that they’ve got where they lock them in because it’s 2 males, 2 females at the moment, I think. I think that was when to see if they, you know, stab each other. Yeah. Yep. There must be a lot of psychological testing actually going into that, It’d have to be. Because, like, you could work together. That’s fine. You could live together. That’s fine. But you just don’t really know.
Chris [00:27:20]:
You can’t simulate that stress.
Sam [00:27:24]:
Oh, I wonder if you could potentially in, like, Antarctica.
Chris [00:27:29]:
It’s a link what do you reckon? Is it a link for the time? Or — No. It’s the it’s the I’m never getting back. Yeah. True. It’s a 1 way trip. Of things. Yeah. I mean, that’s crazy too. You know? Like, to me, that’s the the ultimate stress would be that. Because they could freak out. Yeah. Going back up. It’s so I’m not going back. I’m never gonna see Earth again. Yeah. I’m never gonna breathe air again. Yeah. I know. That that that sort of psychological pressure. I don’t know how you could replicate that.
Sam [00:27:56]:
I don’t know. I don’t think I want to replicate. You can put them in a
Chris [00:28:01]:
composite submarine. That
Sam [00:28:05]:
that could give us some stress. If only yeah. At phone. What about that? You’re talking about that. There was a guy that went down in that sub, like, 4 times or something. Hey? It’s like Hailey? I think — I know the people that I was he a crew, No. I think he was a no. He survived. He’s like a he was like a paying customer, I guess, and he’d been down a couple of times. Maybe 4. I’m sure it’s 4. Holly. So I think that’s my
Chris [00:28:27]:
I I knew because they that thing had gone down, like, 13 times or something. Yeah. Which is mental. And that guy
Sam [00:28:34]:
because somebody pulled out of it at the last minute. Hey. They said, oh, I’m not gonna do it. There was, like, someone else that wanted to go. The well, I I do know they interviewed
Chris [00:28:43]:
Ross Kemp. Do you know Ross Kent? Oh, yeah. He he was doing his journalistic style thing. Oh. Because he was excess AS and stuff, wasn’t he? Apparently. No. I don’t know if he was, but he didn’t — Well, he’s coming out with it. I can’t I can’t remember. I I remember watching 1 of his programs back in the day. But, yeah, he was supposed to go out. He for the interview, he was supposed to go down, and he went, not Not not keen. Not. And so they interviewed him afterwards because yeah. But — That’s good. — that might be just because he’s
Sam [00:29:15]:
shit’s gate, which is fair enough. I I think if I just looked at it and and, like, if you just saw the inside and it was just like a tube with nothing, be like,
Chris [00:29:25]:
Were you because when they did the interview with James Cameron, the 1 — Were they showing his view? — they showed it, and they showed him in it and, like, Yeah. That tube looks luxurious. Competitors.
Sam [00:29:37]:
Because his was quite cramped, but he had, like, little controls and stuff there, didn’t he? Yeah. Like, he was right it was built around them by the looks of it. Like, he didn’t have any room to move. No. That’s alright. I think I’d prefer that maybe. I don’t know. I’d be crazy. Honestly, honestly, Yeah. Don’t know. Anyway, that brings us the end of the podcast, Chris. Cool. Fireside chat is this week. Actually, when you’re listening to this, If you listen to this on the day, it comes out. The minute it comes out — You’ve got about 3 hours or just under 3 hours to — Otherwise, it’s already been. Yeah. So
Chris [00:30:07]:
So I shouldn’t mention that. Wait.
Sam [00:30:10]:
Are we are we publishing are we I didn’t you’re are you recording the fireside chat to publish it? I’m recording it. I don’t know what will — Okay. We’ll see how it goes. So here we go. Okay. That’s the main bit. Okay. Till next time. I’m Sam. I’m Chris. See you. Bye.
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