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🎙️ New Episode Alert! 🎉Hey everyone! We’re thrilled to announce that the latest episode of The Chris and Sam Podcast is now available for your listening pleasure!
🎧In this episode titled “Goodbye Car,” we dive into a short film we were involved in and what’s happened to Chris’s car.
We also talk about the potential breakthrough of a room temperature superconductor, and delve into the mysterious disappearance of Jim Donnelly as featured on the amazing Guilt podcast.
But that’s not all! We share the latest developments in using pig organs for transplants, and even touch upon the intriguing world of taxes.
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Links
Travis King an idiot or a genius
Guilt – NZ True Crime Podcast
Labour and their fruit and vegetable policy
Bacon and Egg Pie Award Mix Up
New Super Conductor not that Super After All
Kidney transplant from Pigs Looking Promising
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Sam [00:00:06]:
Hello, and welcome to episode 443 of the Chris and Sam podcast. I’m Chris. And I’m Sam, welcome along to your weekly fixer randomness technology and life. And boy, do we have a bunch of that this week?
Chris [00:00:34]:
A lot random.
Sam [00:00:35]:
Take your, no, take your pick, life, whatever. You know? Yeah. Let’s start off with you.
Chris [00:00:42]:
I I I wanna talk a little bit just really briefly about Travis King because is the guy a genius or is an idiot?
Sam [00:00:51]:
Who’s Travis King?
Chris [00:00:52]:
Travis King is this. I think he’s about 20 ish. African American, soldier, in South Korea who’d been sued.
Sam [00:01:03]:
Oh, he’s the dude that ran across
Chris [00:01:05]:
and he ran across, to to North Korea. Right.
Sam [00:01:10]:
What’s it? Well, on a tour, the tour group people were like, what’s going on. And then he’s just sprints, and then they have to herd the tourists up and get them back.
Chris [00:01:21]:
Yeah. Yeah. So, basically,
Sam [00:01:23]:
What’s happened now?
Chris [00:01:24]:
He had no. Well, yeah, I’ll I’ll get to that. So just just for for context, he had been doing some dodgy stuff, and he was
Sam [00:01:35]:
— Oh, that’s right. He was gonna get court martialed.
Chris [00:01:37]:
He was gonna get court martialed. So he’d been relieved in duty and things, you know, you’d think they’d take him. The MPs would take him to the airport or whatever. They go, right. here’s your ticket to your plane. We’ll see you in in when you get to the States. And so he puts himself on this tour. He he didn’t actually pay for the tour. He just went along with them, like, just joined the talk.
Sam [00:02:01]:
But he’s dressed up in army gear. Right?
Chris [00:02:03]:
No. No. No. He was just a t shirt jacket and jeans.
Sam [00:02:07]:
Okay. Okay.
Chris [00:02:08]:
So he’s in civvies.
Sam [00:02:09]:
Oh, okay.
Chris [00:02:10]:
And, that was his plan, right, is to to to run off So the reason I mentioned it today is that, North Korea put out a statement about this guy. So nobody’s seen him since he ran across the border. What is it? Like, a month ago now?
Sam [00:02:32]:
Yeah. Yeah.
Chris [00:02:33]:
Yeah. nobody’s seen her. Nobody’s heard from her or anything, but the North Koreans put out a statement about how this poor guy has been abused and racially abused by the Americans and all the rest of it. So if he plays his cards right, he could be like, a a a media superstar for North Korea, if you know what I mean. Like
Sam [00:03:00]:
— I guess so. Yeah.
Chris [00:03:01]:
And if he He must have been at some level of desperation where I’m going back to the states. I’m gonna get court martialed, and I’m gonna spend all this time in prison, maybe if I run into North Korea, you know, and I can sell them on me being a propaganda subject, then I’ll get a, you know, the dentist Rodman treatment and freaking be looked after, and life will be amazing. I think that’s a stretch. Yeah.
Sam [00:03:34]:
I don’t think he put that much thought into it. He’s just like, I I know how to get out of my situation. I mean, I’m sure they’re looking after him really, really well too.
Chris [00:03:44]:
Well, no. Cause are you being sarcastic or not?
Sam [00:03:48]:
hard to say, isn’t it? It is. It is.
Chris [00:03:51]:
It is. No. because honestly, it could go one of two ways. They could treat them really well. and just fro from a purely propaganda point of view. No. I — Or they could just be torturing the shit out of
Sam [00:04:04]:
I think that I think they’ll be keeping him alive, be a minimum, and then they’ll just be still using him however they want. But they must have been like, hang on. You’re telling me, what now this dude ran across the border? Oh, this is good. Yeah.
Chris [00:04:20]:
Anyway, I just, that that that’s what I wanted to kick us off with just because it’s a bit random.
Sam [00:04:26]:
okay. I thought you would have started off with something different. like, the short film that we helped out with and how you, don’t have a vehicle anymore.
Chris [00:04:33]:
Oh, yeah. There’s those things too. I haven’t even written noted those down, but I forgot all about them. so, yeah, I got, wanted a fitness. I didn’t get a warrant of fitness. That’s the point.
Sam [00:04:46]:
You went to get 1. I
Chris [00:04:47]:
went to get a word for it. Let’s lift my car there with Adi. hey, Adi, if you’re listening. And lifted there all day. And then I was coming back and and, he go, he texts me and he says, yeah, need some TLC. And I’m like, oh, okay. you know, how bad does that sound? So I got there, and he’s like, no, it’s not looking good at all. I’m surprised he didn’t notice the wheel, bearing was that bad. I’m like, yeah, I heard a sound. I don’t know. It didn’t sound right. It didn’t sound good, but, you know, I just kept driving.
Sam [00:05:20]:
The car still drove.
Chris [00:05:22]:
Yeah. Yeah. So I said to him, oh, I’ve got this, film thing on tonight. So this was the asteroid city. which is a really good way to Anderson film. So I’ve got this thing on tonight at tiamutu, but it should be alright to take out there. and the pause before he said yes. He was like, he just looks, and he’s he’s thinking. And I’m like, What is there to think about? You’re shitting me. Right? He goes, yeah. Should be okay. I’m like, okay. So I pretty much left from there because that was about 5:30 or whatever. And the thing was at 6 or it was actually 6:30. I thought it was at
Sam [00:06:04]:
Chris [00:06:04]:
So I, I just left from there to tower mood. And every second, I’m like, hearing this grinding wheel thing going but we always gotta fall off, isn’t it? It’s just gonna come off. I’m gonna die. It’s it’s terrible.
Sam [00:06:17]:
It’s great. I mean, You know?
Chris [00:06:20]:
Yeah. So the next morning, I cleaned out the car, got everything out of it. you know, just went, oh, I’ll do that as a as a as a as a Saturday morning tour. And then I went, I’ll just see what records do. And there was a bunch of ads, quotes, you know, get a quote blah blah blah.
Sam [00:06:39]:
Yeah. Yeah. $12,000. And, — Which is a load of crap.
Chris [00:06:44]:
Which is load of crap. yeah. And basically within an hour or so, I’d sold it for scrap for 450 bucks. And, I am now Carlos.
Sam [00:06:54]:
He’s now Carlos. So the next day, get gets roped into helping out with a short film called jail Bated.
Chris [00:07:02]:
Yes.
Sam [00:07:05]:
And then you got hold of me to give you a ride, which is fine, because I sort of knew about the short film.
Chris [00:07:10]:
Yeah. Well, the way it was said to me was you were already coming out. You should get I should get a lift with you. That was what I was told.
Sam [00:07:19]:
I know. I know. That’s a Graham thing. shout out Graham. no, he he just said, come along if you want. We don’t need you because you took too long to get back to us. and Chris looks more like a cop, so we’re gonna use him. And I’m like, oh, yeah, sweet. Yeah. Didn’t bother me, either way. And then, so we went out there
Chris [00:07:37]:
That was that was good. It’s quite a drive out there. It’s to throw away.
Sam [00:07:41]:
— Well, you thought it was Cambridge originally.
Chris [00:07:43]:
So
Sam [00:07:43]:
—
Chris [00:07:43]:
Yeah. Well, because he said, can you get to Cambridge? I’m like, nope. And I thought Can you get to Cambridge because that’s where we’re going to film? But, no, can you get to Cambridge? Cause somebody in Cambridge is coming out here, was what he means.
Sam [00:07:56]:
Yeah. because we’re driving along, and at some point, you’re like, where are we going? because we’ve been driving for ages.
Chris [00:08:03]:
But, yeah, no, Jale Bacon was really good. I like the concept too of the film festival. So it was made specifically for a film festival, although they’re going to do a different edited version, I think, as well. But the film festival in question It had to be a one shot. So for those of you that don’t know, what that means is, the camera starts filming and everything happens with the camera running. There’s no cut and start again and cut and start again. There’s no edits. It’s all filmed in one shot. And it was, yeah, was there a time frame on it? I think 4 minutes or something was me.
Sam [00:08:43]:
I don’t know if that was from the film festival, or if that’s what Graham had said? Yeah. I don’t know. I know it was 4 minutes was what they were working towards.
Chris [00:08:51]:
I know the only other thing from the film of all, is it a head to have a kangaroo in it to show that you make it.
Sam [00:08:56]:
Oh, okay. Alright. I okay. That makes sense because I was like, Yeah.
Chris [00:09:00]:
Why have they got that random picture of a kangaroo on the wall?
Sam [00:09:03]:
I just thought it was just a random picture he had laying around.
Chris [00:09:05]:
No. No. That was part of the film festival. So it had had a kangaroo in it. Yeah.
Sam [00:09:09]:
Yeah. Okay.
Chris [00:09:11]:
which is, you know, because you wouldn’t have a random film lying around that you’d shot that happened to have a kangaroo.
Sam [00:09:17]:
No. But and that’s why they do it.
Chris [00:09:19]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Sam [00:09:20]:
Exactly. — want you to use previous footage.
Chris [00:09:23]:
Yeah. But that’s why the ones at Talkfest really crack me up because they were so generic. must have glasses or glass.
Sam [00:09:30]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They used to be
Chris [00:09:32]:
more specific.
Sam [00:09:34]:
Yeah. I saw I saw the short clip on Instagram where shown behind the scenes, and it was a one take shot. And I wonder if it was, probably wasn’t the same film festival, but similar. And the guy was on a electric unicycle like, self writing monopod, but with, steady cam. So he’s going along filming a guy driving, and the guy goes to his house. and the steady cam guy slows down, somebody grabs the unicycle, and then he walks into the house and does the whole shot of these couple arguing are coming back out of the house. all in one go.
Chris [00:10:07]:
Nice. Nice.
Sam [00:10:08]:
And I was just looking at it, and I was just like, oh my god. There’s so many moving parts. Like, the short film we helped out with was in one room.
Chris [00:10:17]:
There were 2 actors and only one said anything because I was a dead boy.
Sam [00:10:21]:
He was dead. So,
Chris [00:10:24]:
yeah, but Holly who was doing the main acting was really, really good. And
Sam [00:10:29]:
— Yeah. Yeah. That was good.
Chris [00:10:30]:
Yeah. So anyway, look good. The the final final cut, of it. So that’s pretty pretty good.
Sam [00:10:37]:
Yeah. Yeah. That’s pretty good for a 1 take 4 minute film shot in the middle of nowhere.
Chris [00:10:42]:
Yeah. Which, it’s a 4 minute film. It takes longer than 4 minutes to make what we would be for 3 hours?
Sam [00:10:50]:
Almost 4. Almost 4. Okay. Yeah.
Chris [00:10:53]:
Cool.
Sam [00:10:54]:
This week, Chris, I’ve been binging a podcast. I’m gonna tell you all about it.
Chris [00:10:58]:
Okay.
Sam [00:10:59]:
It’s called guilt.
Chris [00:11:01]:
Guilt.
Sam [00:11:02]:
it’s a New Zealand podcast that’s hosted by a guy named Ryan Wolf. Now he’s an actor slash lawyer based in Auckland. He’s not a practicing lawyer, and I have no idea what he’s acted in. Doesn’t matter. but in 2021, he obviously had some time on his hands. and, he decided to make a podcast, and he didn’t know how to do one. He just loved true crime. And he picked some cases, and he says at the start, I’m not regurgitating crap. I’m gonna go interview people. so it’s very much like somebody knows something that podcast Or, yeah, really good. So he did he’s up to season 3 already. The 1st season is who killed Jordan Vaderis. Now he’s the pizza worker in, Piedoa that just got shot randomly and killed.
Chris [00:11:53]:
Oh, okay.
Sam [00:11:53]:
That was 10 years ago. And he’s gone down there and he just starts talking to people. And as he’s talking to people, they’re like, oh, did you talk to blah blah? And he’s like, okay. No. Who’s that? And then he just talks to all these different people, and he’s put it together, like, so well, like he edits it himself and everything. It’s, really good.
Chris [00:12:14]:
Oh, okay.
Sam [00:12:14]:
And in season Yeah. So I finished the crap out of that. Season 2,
Chris [00:12:18]:
I’m sorry. Just to clarify. Season 1’s all that one case.
Sam [00:12:23]:
Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Who killed Jordan Vaderis? Yeah. Season 2 is what happened to Jim Donnelly. So Jim Donnelly went missing 18 years ago. He’s the guy that worked at the, Glenbrook Steel Mill. And he went there one day, and there’s some people saw him. and then he just disappeared. And they couldn’t find him. And then 5 days later, they found some of his stuff next to a vat of acid. Now this acid doesn’t actually melt anything. It’s just used to remove rust. but before this happened, he started acting really weird. like, and everything that’s ever been done, the cops just like none of it makes sense. Literally nothing. like, anyway, so, he started to talk to people. He’s talking to the wife. She’s heavily involved in it, and that’s really cool. and they’re just painting the picture of what this Jim Donnelly guy was like. Yep. And, but the they’ve done a brief timeline of what’s happened, ahead of time, and it was so weird. Like, he’s like, I’ve gotta go to a meeting. And they’re like, what? And he goes, oh, I wanna I think I’m joining the Freemasons, and then he doesn’t. then he goes, I’m going to a meeting. And she goes, what meeting? He goes, I can’t tell you. But I need a suit. So he goes and gets a suit. And then she goes, what are you? And he goes, oh, I think we should just break up. So they he goes, I’ll just tell the kids. She’s like, what? And he’s like, yeah, don’t worry. And then he randomly goes to a random car park in Miller nowhere where a printing company is. And he goes in and security comes in and goes, what are you doing? And he goes, I don’t know. And they’re like, what? And so they trespassed him from there, so they know that happened. Then he goes and buys Chinese. and then he comes back. And then on the day that he disappeared, like they go in and there’s 500 hectares the Glenbrook Steelmill. Yeah. It’s a whole city within a complex. And, they get changed into their work gear at their lockers, and he’s just standing there at the lockers for, like, ages and somebody sees him again. And when they see him wandering around, sometimes he’s trying to hide his face. Anyway, it’s really weird. That’s pretty good. I don’t know where that’s gonna go. Season 3 is called Finding Heidi, and he’s decided to try and figure out what happened to Heidi Puckerman. She’s the Swedish tourist that disappeared with Sven Hogland in 1989. where David Tumihiri was convicted of both their murders. and they only ever found spends body And they the police said to David Tumihiri, you killed him. This is one of the big things. You killed him. You took his watch and then you gave that to your son, and they put him in jail for 20 odd years. And then when they found to spend Hogland’s body, his watch was still on his wrist. they don’t know what happened to Heidi. So anyway, he’s doing that in season 3.
Chris [00:15:12]:
are they assuming that David Tamahiri is Was innocent to that? Or
Sam [00:15:19]:
there’s a really good, show back in the day. I think the investigator, it was called, did a whole episode on this case. Yeah. And basically, I think Sven Hoglund has defensive wounds on his wrists on the bones. So the I think the consensus is there was at least two people and one of them could have been potentially David Tomming hearing. So who knows? Anyway, guilt, niselle, guilt is a New Zealand podcast, check that out everywhere. And he gets tips. Like, as he’s doing the shows, people are sending him in all these tips, and he just starts chasing them up. And, it’s really cool. It’s a really good job. And, yeah, that’s cool.
Chris [00:16:02]:
Might have to check that one out.
Sam [00:16:04]:
If you’re it’s true crime, yeah. it’s good. this week, labor introduced, their stupid policy.
Chris [00:16:11]:
Okay. Which stupid poll because they’ve introduced, like, a dozen policies this week, haven’t they? They’re like, oh my god. We’re falling down in the polls. We need we need everything.
Sam [00:16:22]:
Wow. there’s only 2 that I think I that I know One was they give some more money to working for families, and they wanna re remove the GST of fresh fruit and vegetables.
Chris [00:16:33]:
Right. So which one’s annoying you?
Sam [00:16:36]:
The GST of fresh fruit and vegetables.
Chris [00:16:38]:
Stupid a. It’s gonna be such a nightmare for Stores.
Sam [00:16:44]:
No. No. No. No. No. No. No. It’s not gonna be a nightmare for stores. They will just put the price up on anything they want like they do now. to cover all their costs. So the tax, the the the group that looks after the tax, said to the government, don’t do this. It’s absolutely stupid. you’re not gonna be able to police it. You’re not gonna be able to do anything. They’re gonna cost money, this and that. what’s his face? Grant Robertson, head of finance for the government says, we’re not doing this because it’s stupid. Chris Hopkins goes, you know what? We’re doing it. in the press conference, they said to Chris Hopkins, why didn’t you do this, like, you know, last year or before? And he was like, It’s election year. Like, literally literally confirmed the only reason. Now you’re gonna save $20 a month, Chris, the average family will save $20 a month as mind blowing. Fundamentally, everybody across the board and in every group or recommend the quickest and easiest thing they can do is to not have tax on the first 10 to $18,000, I think it is that every single person in New Zealand makes. Yep. Easy, simple. They can do it. They could do it. Yeah.
Chris [00:18:00]:
Yeah. Because it’s a system. thing, right, the simply you make the system the easier it’s going to be to to to get compliance and to to manage. Right? So Oh, yeah. I don’t know how how old you was when GST first came here. I was
Sam [00:18:17]:
— I don’t I don’t remember it coming in. I just I
Chris [00:18:19]:
remember it coming in. So there was
Sam [00:18:21]:
— That would have been
Chris [00:18:21]:
a big, big, a. — huge discussions about it. Right?
Sam [00:18:24]:
Oh, I remember when it changed. That’s the only — Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Chris [00:18:28]:
Well, it was 10 when I when it came
Sam [00:18:30]:
in. When it
Chris [00:18:31]:
first came in, it was
Sam [00:18:32]:
Chris [00:18:33]:
So, and they said, because act at the time, I think I was an act voter back at the end. Act at the time was saying that, if we put GST on at 10%, we can get rid of all income tax, everything will be just covered by GST.
Sam [00:18:49]:
Oh, okay.
Chris [00:18:50]:
This is in the, I wanna say mid to late eighties. you might be wrong on that, but it was a long time ago. Anyway, but the big thing was at that time, the what they’re looking at a lot of was VAT in in in the UK, which is the aversion value added text. Yep. And, they had freaking 12 categories or some click like that. So you have different tax rates for different categories. And, yeah, it’s just a nightmare to to organize it, and it just made so much more sense to go 10% on everything, you know, when when they first launched it. And then 10% on everything, know, people were going, well, no. What about the, you know, bread and butter? What is about the, you know, basic food items? And it’s like, it’s just going to be the same. If it’s the same for everybody, it will work. What happens is those that are making more money buy more expensive food items. You don’t get caviar. You know, you’re paying 10% on your caviar, you know, like, so it’s — Oh.
Sam [00:19:58]:
—
Chris [00:19:58]:
it works out equitable if if if, you know, so, yeah, they’re they’re fucking dicks if they change it. That’s my — Oh, it
Sam [00:20:06]:
seems silly. Did you see the reporter with a bag of food at the press conference? No. He just started pulling up stuff. He’s like, so, Prime minister, I’ve got this potted, rosemary here. Now, would this have, GST on it or not? And he’s like, no. No. I don’t think so. Okay. Now I’ve got this rosemary in a packet here. It’s fresh, but it’s in a packet. Do you think this would have GST? don’t know. We’ll have to look into that. Okay. I’ve got this garlic ball. No. That’s fresh. That’s okay. That won’t have GST. Cool. Now I’ve got fresh garlic, but it’s vacuum sealed in this packet. and he just kept pulling up all this random stuff. And in the end, Old Hopkins got a bit annoyed and was like, no, there’s enough of that. But it’s the I —
Chris [00:20:50]:
But it’s exactly the point. And, I mean, then you’ve got the the the dodgy ones that are like, all your Apple products. now, GST free.
Sam [00:21:00]:
Oh, it’s just and and they’re just making it. So the supermarkets who just doing whatever they want now because the government agency that looks at them is too scared to do whatever is too scared to do anything. Yeah. It seems. Just do something and we’ll work it out. anyway, that GST of fresh fruit and vegetables has made me very, very angry this week. I don’t know why it’s just stupid.
Chris [00:21:23]:
Yeah. I I’d know. I get you because when people when people don’t understand the whole idea of what a system is, and a system has to be the the simplest common denominator that gets the effect that you want with the least amount of loopholes and the least amount of, you know, setbacks, just a baseline system like that, that’s that’s what you want. And our GST is actually pretty bloody good. would it be nicer if it stayed at 10%, because these are gonna calculate.
Sam [00:21:58]:
you’ve got here that there’s an issue with the bacon and egg pie award.
Chris [00:22:02]:
So have you heard about that? Actually, I I brought up a story on it. I took out it. So Bake Hills does the, you know, higher woods every year that
Sam [00:22:12]:
— Yes.
Chris [00:22:12]:
Yeah. And so one of the categories is bacon and egg price.
Sam [00:22:16]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:22:17]:
anyway. so they they they announced the winner, and the winner was sent to a glitzy thingy, you know, the a Pie Awards night. Yeah.
Sam [00:22:30]:
Yeah. It was,
Chris [00:22:32]:
somebody from Hamilton.
Sam [00:22:35]:
Oh, cool.
Chris [00:22:35]:
His name was, and I’ve got it here. Jempa. Jampa.
Sam [00:22:40]:
Okay. Well, where are you from? Just see what bakery?
Chris [00:22:42]:
Yeah. It does. Avalon Bakehouse And Hamilton. Sam — No.
Sam [00:22:46]:
—
Chris [00:22:46]:
Sam Jamper of Avalon Bakehouse and Well — Okay.
Sam [00:22:49]:
They must have been on Avalon Drive, I guess.
Chris [00:22:51]:
Yep. Yeah. So, he he won the best bacon and egg pie award. Anyway, that got published And then this dude in Auckland, who is Oh, I’ve got his name here. He’s he’s in Avondale in Auckland. Song, sock, hymn, of Tastes Cafe in Auckland, Avondale. And also the picture of the winning pie and goes, that’s my pie. because it’s got
Sam [00:23:25]:
his own.
Chris [00:23:26]:
It’s got the signature stamp or whatever on the top.
Sam [00:23:29]:
Yeah. Yeah.
Chris [00:23:30]:
Yeah. And so he he goes back to Bake Hilton and goes, they’re winning prize my pie. And they do an investigation and they’re like, oh, crap. You’re right. It is. So they stripped the Hamilton guy of his his award. Yeah. And this new story I’m looking at here on stuff is like the jamper’s going, I’m leaving that up is good because he got a big frame certificate. Yeah. I don’t keep it now. I’m I’m I’m leaving that up. You know? and, they they they went to, the Bakers guys went to this other guy’s cafe And he sort of he’s like, I don’t, you know, suck in in Auckland a little bit like, I don’t know, how I feel about it because you know, I missed the big freaking
Sam [00:24:17]:
—
Chris [00:24:18]:
Yeah. — Quincy night thing. so I sort of feel good about it, but I actually feel really bad for you know, the guy in Hamilton because, you know, I have it stripped away from him, and it was just a mix up on the numbers that they put in front of the pie.
Sam [00:24:32]:
Yep. You gotta be pretty. So I I do
Chris [00:24:36]:
like, one person said, nah, all it means is there’s 2 winners this year.
Sam [00:24:42]:
Yeah. Joint winners.
Chris [00:24:43]:
Yeah. That’s the I think that’s how you have to look at it because they both did well. And I won’t be trying even because they got bacon in. So
Sam [00:24:51]:
Exactly. Try tell me about this room temperature superconductor.
Chris [00:24:55]:
Oh, so So this has been talked about a little bit recently. I think it was a year, a year or 2 ago, there was a bit of a, in years, around COVID times, there was a a a big kerfuffle because somebody had come up with this. room temperature superconductor. Everybody’s really excited about it, and then it turned out to be absolute bullshit. Right? So there was nothing there. It didn’t it was it was fraudulent. Anyway, so this other one’s come up, and everybody’s been really tentative about it. you know, is this another, bullshit thing? So the paper’s just been published. and I I heard a couple of things about it, but I’ve, actually got the link for the, the video that I watched. We talked about the Skype for this engineering, YouTube channel, 2 bit da Vinci.
Sam [00:25:52]:
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Chris [00:25:52]:
Yeah. So he he does a really, really good job of explaining it. And I we’ll try and give you a little bit of that. But if you want the real explanation, watch the video. We’ll we’ll have the link in the show notes. Basically, what happens is, all all electricity going through wire or whatever has resistance. Okay. Yes. The electrons moving through hitting other things, bouncing off other things. And like, is it called nicotine? Something like that is what you use in the toaster? It’s got really high resistance because it makes it hot and and makes it an element. Right? That’s what. Yep. Yep. And then copper is what we use for the probably least resistance. But the re relative resistance between those and a superconductor is like those 2 are are quite close together and superconductors on the other end of the scale. So superconductor has virtually no resistance. It’s not not 0 resistance, but but very, very low resistance. And the way that they have got that in the past is that they’ve gone to, absolute 0, like, in Kelvin terms, not
Sam [00:27:04]:
0
Chris [00:27:04]:
degrees, but absolute 0, which is something like negative 200 degrees centigrade or some some stupid number. And that allows the electrons to flow through because everything’s not rattling around so much. There’s these pathways for the electrons to go through. Now this is a big deal because things like, MRI machines are so expensive because they effectively have to have that, cooling system that gets it down to that superconductor level for it to work prop And that’s the expensive part of an MRI, MRI machine and and other things as well.
Sam [00:27:46]:
That’s right.
Chris [00:27:47]:
So the benefits of having a room temperature superconductor is high. What’s really cool is the way they’ve done it is like whole different way of, coming around this whole problem of what is a superconductor And what they’ve done is they’ve got different atoms of very basic materials, iron oxide, and stuff like this, mixing it and baking it in such a way and adding copper way that it creates a a structure. If you think of a crystalline structure, creates a structure with these holes in them, that the electrons can just whiz through, like, they call it quantum tunneling, but it’s just like a shy way for electrons. And it works at room temperature. so the it’s looking really, really good. Lots of people are skeptical, but right now, as we speak, there are people all over the world trying to, test this stuff to see if it actually works. If it does, it’s going to be phenomenal what we’re looking at.
Sam [00:28:54]:
They So so it’s called LK99, and it came from a Korean scientist. Yep. And they sort of said, hey, we’ve come up with this thing and everybody can go test it in that. and they have, and it’s bullshit. So, with a great deal of sadness, we now believe that the game over. Alk99 is not a superconductor, not even at room temperatures, or even at very low temperatures. It is a very highly resistive poor quality material period. No point in fighting with the truth. The University of Maryland’s condensed matter theory center posted that a week ago. and there’s a whole bunch of new papers just coming out within this week that have said, nah. It’s not what it is. all the government agencies have not released their findings yet. That’s the only thing, but these preprint papers have come out, the CSIR National Physical Laboratory in India says nah. There’s no sign of any superconductivity at all. And then they even said there’s a video of it sort of floating?
Chris [00:30:04]:
Yeah. It’s a pretty shitty looking. Yeah.
Sam [00:30:08]:
Yeah. The international center for quantum materials in China found evidence that the mid is ferromagnetic. This means that it can be magnetized and then attracted or repelled by other materials. so that’s not good. So, yeah, I just happened to see this, story after I saw that you wrote that.
Chris [00:30:28]:
Yeah. No. It’s it’s cool because it was only the other night. I I was listening watching this video. And, yeah, he was very excited. And to be fair, he was like, there’s still gotta be testing. They’re testing it now. Dada. Dada. We don’t wanna So that this, he was quite excited about the paper because of the way that they’d structured and what I was just telling you. Still worth watching the video, I think, but, it’s annoying.
Sam [00:30:54]:
Yeah. No. Totally to get a understanding of superconducting. Yeah.
Chris [00:30:58]:
Yeah. Yeah.
Sam [00:31:00]:
that brings us the end of the podcast, Chris. We’re ending on a hot note.
Chris [00:31:04]:
Actually, can we can we do one more science one since I screwed up that last one?
Sam [00:31:08]:
I’m glad you said science because if you said that other one —
Chris [00:31:11]:
The science. so this has just happened, although it was on the news this morning. I was listening to the AM show. So, they have been for a while, using pegs for potential transplants for for humans and that sort of thing. Yep. So a while ago, about a year ago, they they did this where they got a, pig’s kidney and put it into a human. the human was brain dead. Like, they’re gonna pull the plug on it type thing. We’ve got the okay, from the, family and what have you. And they basically took the man’s kidneys out and put in pig’s kidney. to see if it’ll work. because what they’ve done in the past is they’ve grafted pig’s kidneys in with the mick person’s kidneys, but they they can’t really sell if it’s you know, they they can’t measure it as well. So this guy’s dying anyway or effectively dead, but he’s still alive. Yeah. So they took his kidneys out, put the pig’s kidney in, and it, and it worked for for a week. to a high degree, way more than what the, expectation of a human kidney transplant is, like they have a measurement. Yep. and it’s way beyond that, like, five times as much, or something like that. So, anyway, this this morning, they’ve and they turned that off after 7 days, but it was going really well. But the thing was they’re like, we can’t keep this guy, the ethics thing, you know, keeping the skylight
Sam [00:32:43]:
Yeah. Yeah.
Chris [00:32:44]:
So, they’ve done another experiment, apparently, and it’s just come out. The paper’s not fully released, but, they were able to do it for a longer period of time. So they’ve done it for a month. And this — Alright. That’s cool. — thing. So that that’s gonna be a lot better than, human, kidney transplants.
Sam [00:33:07]:
Yeah. We just need to have a a a pig out the back. That’s my pig, and he’s got all my body parts on
Chris [00:33:14]:
it. Yeah.
Sam [00:33:15]:
Yeah. Ready to go?
Chris [00:33:17]:
I thought that was cool.
Sam [00:33:19]:
Very good. I don’t know about anything coming up in the next week. So,
Chris [00:33:26]:
No. Nothing. Nothing too exciting here. I yep, I’ll still be going along to my improv. I mentioned that last week, but, we’ll talk about improv next I’m gonna find out my teams this weekend, I think. Yeah.
Sam [00:33:40]:
Nice. Okay. Until next time.
Chris [00:33:42]:
I’m, Sam.
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