Summary

Sam went through the ultimate escape room experience this week and spoke to someone trying hard to sell some internet. Find out what happened.

We learn about the Trump debt counter website and a mobile app called Minutiae and a chrome extension Chris uses to help with LinkedIn.

We learn more woman might actually be psychopaths, some Tesla driver had to be rescued from some water.

There was a nationwide problem with payment at petrol stations which just seemed stupid and local news Newshub got told they are shutting out.

And we round things off talking about a woman that had her insurance claim denied due to throwing a Christmas tree.

Links

Trump debt counter website
Minutiae phone app
LinkedIn Chrome Extension – My Most Trusted Network
More woman might be psychopaths then first thought
Tesla owners rescued from water by floating sauna customers
Problem with EFTPOS at self service petrol stations
Willy Wonka Immersive experience was crap
Newshub closing down
Woman loses out on her insurance claim after throwing a Christmas Tree

Show Transcript

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Sam [00:00:06]:
Hello, and welcome to episode 470 of the Chris and Sam podcast.

Chris [00:00:25]:
I’m Chris.

Sam [00:00:26]:
And I’m Sam. Welcome along to your weekly fix of Randomness Technology and Life. Here we are.

Chris [00:00:30]:
Here we are. It’s a beautiful sunny day here in Hamilton. And, the, the council people at the park outside my house are doing their job, setting up the, wood chipper for the tree that had to be surgically removed branches from last or a couple of weeks ago. So expect that to start halfway through the podcast because that’s guaranteed to happen.

Sam [00:00:53]:
Yep. So we’re either chainsaws or wood chipper.

Chris [00:00:56]:
Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, what’s been what’s up? What’s new?

Sam [00:00:59]:
What’s new? This week, Chris, I took part in the hardest escape room I’ve ever had to take part in.

Chris [00:01:06]:
I think you’ve been in some tough and.

Sam [00:01:07]:
No. No. This is the toughest one. Yeah. I didn’t even want to be in it. Is how tough it was and I failed. I had to get help. And I didn’t have to travel very far, Chris.

Sam [00:01:16]:
I got stuck in my toilet.

Chris [00:01:18]:
Oh, yeah. At home. Yep.

Sam [00:01:22]:
So

Chris [00:01:23]:
nice twist. I like it. That’s good.

Sam [00:01:25]:
To put things in perspective, bit of backstory, I rent a house. It’s an old Lockwood house and for whatever reason The landlord was the person that lived in it before I did and our front door is solid steel and it’s got like commercial grade hardware on it. My brother-in-law, who’s a locksmith, was like blown away. He goes, I don’t know why you’d have this. I don’t know either but there’s no way you can kick that door in. Now, the toilet and the bathroom doors have got old dead bolts on them basically but it doesn’t have the key. It’s just got a latch on the inside.

Chris [00:01:57]:
Right.

Sam [00:01:57]:
That’s it. For whatever reason, unbeknownst, I don’t know why I locked it. I was the only one home. I don’t know why I locked it. But it broke. But it locked. So, So so

Chris [00:02:08]:
the inside toonie thing’s just like spinning. Yep. Alright. Gotcha. Gotcha.

Sam [00:02:12]:
Yep. And I’m trapped in there and our house can get really really hot. Luckily it was overcast. Yes. Yes. Because, I was in there for over an hour and first off, I worked out that I could take off the metal door stop thing. So I took that off and I started undoing a screw on this lock thing and that didn’t work. Like, only got so far around and I was like, oh, this is stupid.

Sam [00:02:33]:
I managed to pull a pin out of the door because I thought, oh, maybe if we can get all the pins out there might be enough gap maybe. I don’t know.

Chris [00:02:40]:
So open the hinge end of the Maybe.

Sam [00:02:43]:
But yeah. So The, then I realized there was a picture on the wall so I took that off, took off the picture hook, straightened that out, made a make shift little tiny screwdriver, took a screw out of this lock which is good, but I couldn’t get the other screw out because it was stuck with paint or God knows what. Oh no. So this is no good. Eventually I broke that lock off with my bare and. Ripped that out. Ended up with a, just a lock and the spindle was in there but the spindle couldn’t turn it. I don’t know what was going on.

Sam [00:03:11]:
Luckily, I had my phone with me. Got a hold of Sarah. She came home from work. Gave me a screwdriver basically and I had to undo the window latches to get out.

Chris [00:03:20]:
Out through the window? Yeah. Oh my god.

Sam [00:03:23]:
So to undo a stay and then these arm things and and then get out. Which was a mission as well because I was like, hang on.

Chris [00:03:29]:
Yeah, I’m trying to remember but it wasn’t a big window. I didn’t think.

Sam [00:03:33]:
It’s it was okay size for me and luckily it wasn’t very high. Like you can sort of step almost out. Very awkward. So Gary came and. He’s the maintenance man for the rental people. He had to climb in the window

Chris [00:03:47]:
to get

Sam [00:03:48]:
to it and he managed to like wrench it open, which is fine. But we were thinking about the shower room that we’ve got Which has no window, no nothing. It’s just this door with the exact same lock.

Chris [00:03:58]:
Did you ask him to switch The?

Sam [00:03:59]:
Yeah, luckily The following day was our house inspection. So I explained it to, Louise. I said, this is like if if I got stuck in here, even if I

Chris [00:04:10]:
had a

Sam [00:04:10]:
It would still be here. Well, yeah. Even if I had a phone, I the door’s so solid as well. Like, take an x to it maybe. I don’t know. That was my week.

Chris [00:04:22]:
Well, the yeah. The other thing is you could just, you know, advertise it and rent it and put people in there and say get out of this.

Sam [00:04:30]:
Yeah. Maybe. Maybe. If it got

Chris [00:04:32]:
Escape room.

Sam [00:04:33]:
If it got super hot in the toilet, I would have broken the glass, I think. Smash the window out. Mhmm. And then tried getting out. I think. Or actually just ripped the break the stays off, maybe.

Chris [00:04:44]:
Yeah.

Sam [00:04:45]:
I don’t know. And then later on, not unrelated to this, get get a knock on the phone call. On the door. Knock on the door. Go up. And it’s one of these people going around selling broadband and internet.

Chris [00:04:55]:
Oh, yeah. I had one of those the other day as well.

Sam [00:04:57]:
And it was like a random company but he goes I’m through Chris. But it was some com The tag I’ve never heard of beginning with m. Yeah. And I was like, oh, okay. And he’s and he’s nice enough. And I was like, okay. And he goes, so, what what are you, you know, what what are you paying for your Internet? And I said, I’m paying $85. He’s like, oh, okay.

Sam [00:05:20]:
Oh, okay. And he goes, we could do it for 65 or whatever it is. I said, yeah. That’s cool. Cool. Cool. But I’m I I get 800 megs down, 500 megs upload. Can you do that? And he went, oh, no.

Sam [00:05:34]:
No. We can’t do that. It’d be the exact same price. Okay. And The he goes, oh. So, and he goes, oh. And he started raving off all these companies. He goes, oh.

Sam [00:05:41]:
Is that with, you know, Orcon or or this and this? I was like, no. No. It’s actually with Skinny and he was like, oh, oh, okay. Just with your power like, how much are you paying roughly?’ So I told him and he goes, oh. Oh, okay. Who’s that with?’ I said, oh, we’re currently with Flick Energy.’ Oh, you know, we can’t do better than that either. He’s wandered off.

Chris [00:06:02]:
That’s pretty good. I, I didn’t mention this the other day but I or previous episode, but I was going to. I, I got my power bill, my last power bill, which was the end of January, the The beginning of February. And I know I’ve only just paid it because I just had payday.

Sam [00:06:19]:
Yeah. Yeah.

Chris [00:06:20]:
But, yeah. A $100 more than the month before Yeah. Basically from leaving the fan on all the time.

Sam [00:06:28]:
Also, all power companies are raising their prices this year. So there was a 5 year lead up for generation generators or generation companies or something to do something. So my power bill is going up on the 1st April. Yours may have already gone up.

Chris [00:06:44]:
Alright.

Sam [00:06:44]:
And my power company said The changes mean on your, current usage, you’re gonna pay an extra $20 a month. Right. So it may be that.

Chris [00:06:53]:
But $100 is a lot because I I

Sam [00:06:55]:
That seems like a lot even for the fan on.

Chris [00:06:57]:
I I think I think the previous month was low though. So I I think I’d normally be about around a and, and then the previous month was 68. So I think I mentioned to you, it was like

Sam [00:07:07]:
Oh, okay.

Chris [00:07:08]:
68. And and but it was a what do you call it? Read the meter one. And then chris The, 173. So I was like, goddamn. Anyway, that’s it. Okay. It

Sam [00:07:18]:
pays it pays The shop around people.

Chris [00:07:20]:
Hey. I know you don’t wanna hear about Trump and stuff, and I’m not gonna go there much. But for everybody out there, we’re gonna put a link to chris. The trumpdebtcounter.com. It’s hilarious because when you go there, it’s it’s got a picture of, Trump and and The the debt is going up. So he’s got interest he’s got to pay, and it goes up second by second. And it’s it’s it’s quite mesmerizing to watch. So right now, as I’m recording this, it is and 8 and, and, 15.

Sam [00:07:56]:
Far

Chris [00:07:59]:
Anyway and there’s a few, things on there. There’s a little quiz and there’s, a few funny things on there. It’s it’s worth a look at.

Sam [00:08:05]:
I got roped in on an Instagram ad this week, Chris.

Chris [00:08:08]:
Oh, yeah?

Sam [00:08:09]:
It started showing me chris, I don’t know, this photo book thing and it goes, oh, after a year, you get this photo book and it’s it’s all these memories and stuff. And it was like photo of a kitchen, photo of the floor in some dude’s toilet. And I’m like, what is

Chris [00:08:25]:
What are you talking about?

Sam [00:08:26]:
Yeah. Exactly. So I’ve got to click through, install the app and next thing you know, I’m addicted to it. What? Why not? Why not not?

Chris [00:08:37]:
So What

Sam [00:08:39]:
are you on it? Don’t worry about it. I’ll explain that. I’ll explain that. So there’s an app and it’s called, I I don’t even know how you pronounce and. M I n u t I a e. Minutiae? Minutiae?

Chris [00:08:51]:
Oh, minutiae. Minutiae? Minutiae. Oh, yeah.

Sam [00:08:53]:
There we go. Yeah. Look at me.

Chris [00:08:55]:
I and I’m reading that off the screen of my mind that I’ve just typed it on. I haven’t actually looked

Sam [00:09:00]:
at What’s the meaning of minutiae then?

Chris [00:09:01]:
It’s the minutia. The fine details. The small things that you have to deal with.

Sam [00:09:07]:
Oh. There we go. That makes sense. So, yeah. So basically chris app, these are the rules. Once a day at a random moment, all minutia participants around the world receive a simultaneous alert. Your phone goes off. Okay.

Sam [00:09:22]:
You have exactly and minute to open that app. Once you open the app, you have 5 seconds to take a photo of whatever is in front of you. Right? And if you miss that moment, which can happen because sometimes you’ll be asleep or whatever, you just get a little black dot. I’ll show you the grid in a second. Once you capture that moment you then have 60 seconds. It has a little black dot under your one. So we did it this morning and you click on it and it just shows you a random person’s photo. But I didn’t I only worked it out this morning.

Sam [00:09:53]:
You’ve got 60 seconds. You can scroll sideways to to The past ones. So I saw this person’s computer desk. They did a selfie. Then they’re eating noodles and it’s just random as. Right? At the end of a 360 moment cycle, so 1 year, you then have the option to order The of these books with all of your moments. But they’re doing this, announcement every minute of a day. So it’s and moments.

Sam [00:10:19]:
So it’ll take 4 years to get through the whole cycle. So after 4 years, you can download all these little random images. I’ve

Chris [00:10:28]:
Okay. It sounds interesting actually. It’s quite intriguing.

Sam [00:10:31]:
And The manifesto was basically you are not your timeline. Social media was supposed to keep us in touch with friends but has instead turned us into unwitting monkeys filling the world’s longest consumer survey. Facebook doesn’t want your money. It wants your time. You don’t get instant gratification from this. They don’t care about your data. It won’t increase your efficiency. It’s not a popularity contest and let’s be honest, it’s not for everyone.

Chris [00:10:52]:
Yeah. That’s cool.

Sam [00:10:53]:
So, yeah. It’s pretty cool. I’ve captured 3 moments. I’ve missed 4. I’ve got and moments to happen. That’s, yeah. So that’s 4 years worth there.

Chris [00:11:04]:
Holy crap.

Sam [00:11:05]:
But that’s all the times. Yeah.

Chris [00:11:07]:
Yeah. Yeah.

Sam [00:11:08]:
Every minute and 24 hours. It took me ages because I didn’t read the rules and I was looking at all these numbers because you can zoom in and I was like what do these numbers mean? Because when you go on this screen

Chris [00:11:18]:
Yeah, there’s no numbers.

Sam [00:11:20]:
No, this is 1 year’s worth.

Chris [00:11:21]:
Oh, yeah.

Sam [00:11:22]:
But you can’t click on I can’t click on that photo. I can only look at it for 60 and. When I get the alert, I might be able to look at my own ones real quick. Yeah. But up until then, you have no idea. So it’s like a photo of my TV, photo of my coffee cup, and I don’t know what the other one was. Yeah. It’s It’s a random little

Chris [00:11:38]:
It’s it’s a it’s it is quite good because it keeps you in touch with, the reality of what you’re doing. Like, looking back at it over a year would be quite specific.

Sam [00:11:49]:
Yeah. So there is a paid pro version. You get an you get 4 minutes to get to the app instead of 1 minute and you can pretty much prepay for a year and you’ve already got the book Yeah. Locked in. So our only question was like, will chris still be around in 1 to 4 years?

Chris [00:12:07]:
Yeah. Yeah.

Sam [00:12:08]:
Because imagine The send this out to everyone in the world at the same time apparently And when you take the photo, it takes like 30, 40 seconds to upload it. Because The just must be getting all this data all at once and theory.

Chris [00:12:20]:
Yeah. In theory. But I’m I’m sure I’d staggered it.

Sam [00:12:23]:
Yeah. They must be. But you you’ve got to wait. Yeah. Anyway, check out Minutia which I just realized is how

Chris [00:12:29]:
How you spell how you say it. Yeah. No. That’s cool. Actually, on The, I’ve just started using this week a a Chrome,

Sam [00:12:38]:
extension,

Chris [00:12:39]:
that’s the word, that I installed maybe a year ago, even more. And I I installed sam. Somebody mentioned it. I don’t even remember where I first heard of it.

Sam [00:12:48]:
I will just, I think we’ll just paint a picture here. Your Chrome browser, your window Yeah. Has on average, what, a 1000000000 tabs? They’re always there. You have these constant tabs that you go between.

Chris [00:13:00]:
No. No. No. No. It’s my bookmarks.

Sam [00:13:03]:
No. Oh, yeah. Bookmarks. Yeah. Bookmarks, tab. There’s a lot of information on the screen. You could have as many extensions as you want. Yeah.

Sam [00:13:10]:
You that’s why you probably didn’t touch it for a year.

Chris [00:13:13]:
Yeah. I’ve only got half a dozen extensions to be fair. But yeah. So it’s it’s an extension that works on top of LinkedIn and it’s called My Most Trusted. And so I I got it like a year or so ago. I think I added and person because you can basically, when you have someone that you connect with, LinkedIn, you go, I trust this person.

Sam [00:13:34]:
Yeah. I wanna stalk The. Yep.

Chris [00:13:36]:
Not quite bad. Okay. I trust

Sam [00:13:38]:
this person. Thinking about it.

Chris [00:13:39]:
So, anyway, I’ve been doing some networking with the selling on the spot people in Canada, and they have white labeled versions, which I sort of swap that out. Same same programs just got their branding on. And then we did a 5 day, referral channel challenge this week. And we go, we’ll show you how to use this thing. I’m like, finally. Yeah.

Sam [00:14:02]:
I need someone to explain it to me.

Chris [00:14:05]:
Honestly, there’s a lot to it. Now there’s a pro version like anything. I’ve just got the free version, but it’s actually really, really cool. So it’s like an extra

Sam [00:14:14]:
There it is.

Chris [00:14:15]:
Layer of this there’s The wood chipper being fired up. It’s an extra layer of trusting people on top of LinkedIn. So you will connect with all sorts of people on LinkedIn. I connect with people that I’ve just met at The networking event Mhmm. And I’ll connect with them on LinkedIn. That’s a good way to keep in touch. But I wouldn’t make them trusted until I, yeah, yeah, I’ve done some work with them or, you know, done some

Sam [00:14:39]:
some sam of yeah.

Chris [00:14:41]:
So it’s like an extra level on The. So that you get, particularly when you got the paid version, you’ve got access to the 30 odd and people that are in that trusted network. They’re all

Sam [00:14:51]:
trusted by

Chris [00:14:52]:
someone. Yep. And you can recommend other people, and you can give golden recommendations.

Sam [00:14:56]:
I saw you recommend somebody.

Chris [00:14:58]:
Yeah. Yeah. Which

Sam [00:14:59]:
I’m assuming that was

Chris [00:15:00]:
That was part of the challenge. So the, app says, do you want to publish this fact that you we’ve connected these 2 people up? Yeah. And you can opt out and not do that. But I’ve, I’ve gone yeah. Okay. Because actually LinkedIn it also helps your LinkedIn ratings. Okay. LinkedIn likes using it for connections and stuff.

Chris [00:15:19]:
Because there’s a lot of, dodgy apps with LinkedIn. Like, you know, you like spam people and all that, and this is, like, the total opposite of that. You have to know the people and

Sam [00:15:29]:
and all

Chris [00:15:30]:
that sort of thing. So, yeah, that’s really good. So, that I wasn’t planning on talking about that, but, you mentioned the app thing. So I was like, yeah. I bet.

Sam [00:15:37]:
I did forget to tell you, I got new glasses this week. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Which I’m wearing now. Oh, they

Chris [00:15:43]:
are the new ones. Oh, okay.

Sam [00:15:44]:
Yeah. Yeah. I know. The they’re so similar to the other ones. They’re okay. I had to get progressives for the first time.

Chris [00:15:50]:
And how are you finding that? So when you look up and down, it changes the

Sam [00:15:55]:
It it it does, but it’s not as, harsh as whatever I was expecting. Like, I don’t get out of like, if I’m looking at sign over there, it’s blurry now, but not there.

Chris [00:16:05]:
Oh, I see.

Sam [00:16:05]:
But funnily enough, yesterday, perfect vision. Everything’s fine. This morning, a little bit weird. I don’t know what’s going on. Yeah. I can still see, but I think my eyes might be tired. 2 or 3 weeks they said to get fully used to it. Yeah.

Sam [00:16:16]:
But, no. It’s fine. I don’t even feel sick. My the change in my prescription must have been so small. Yeah. That I don’t get the seasickness thing or anything. I would because I just put them on in the store, and I was like, oh, okay. Cool.

Sam [00:16:29]:
The one thing

Chris [00:16:30]:
that’s because you you do get that seasickness type nausea thing quite easily.

Sam [00:16:34]:
Oh, yeah. I do. Yeah. Yeah. But but with changing glasses, you a lot of people get that. Yeah. Yeah. But the thing in the store, she goes, oh, look out there and I was, oh, sweet as I can see that.

Sam [00:16:42]:
Yeah. Look at this as I yes. Well, I can see that. The thing that screws me up, peripheral vision’s like screwy. Like, I didn’t realize how much I just look out the side of my eye,

Chris [00:16:50]:
Yeah.

Sam [00:16:50]:
Which I can do, but it’s all blurry now.

Chris [00:16:52]:
Oh, because these glasses are further forward? Or

Sam [00:16:55]:
No. No. No. They have a whole section on the side that’s nothing. You it’s all blurry. Oh. That’s how they work. Yeah.

Sam [00:17:01]:
So when you’re looking at they had to show me this image and and the more expensive, the more expensive version you get, the smaller that gap is.

Chris [00:17:10]:
At the edge.

Sam [00:17:10]:
Because if I got real the cheaper ones, I’d be like here and here and I’ve only got really small spot to look through. Oh, right. And she said The trick is wherever you want to look, you have to point your nose at. Oh. So to look at, but it’s weird because things shift planes, I guess. So if I don’t look down at my car speedo, but I sort of glance down, instead of flat, it’s on this weird angle. And it looks like reality. I’m like, what is going on? The I looked down properly.

Sam [00:17:35]:
I’m like

Chris [00:17:35]:
It sounds like it sounds like being in virtual reality with The the

Sam [00:17:39]:
ocular disorder. I think it it is a little bit. It’s a bit crazy.

Chris [00:17:42]:
That’s weird. That’s weird. Yeah. No. Because I know my ex wife, when she got, prescription change in her contacts, she always wore contacts. She didn’t like the idea of glasses. She she would be a little queasy for a little while. Speaking of The, actually, I’ve got a thing here.

Chris [00:18:02]:
Women’s equality, I’ve typed it down as. I thought this was interesting from The Guardian. More women may be psychopaths and The has previously been thought says experts. So for males, I’ve got it down here somewhere. It’s quite a long article. I had it. Yeah. It’s about 23% of men who have some level of psychopathy.

Chris [00:18:26]:
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. …Opathy. Yeah.

Sam [00:18:28]:
Because it’s The a broad range really. Isn’t it?

Chris [00:18:29]:
Yeah. Yeah. And and so basically what it is, it’s, a tendency to not feel, a connection with people and, be less empathetic, more prone to violence.

Sam [00:18:43]:
Yes.

Chris [00:18:44]:
They reckon there’s around 12 to 13% of women that have enough of those traits to be potentially problematic. But with women, it’s, the the violence is is usually verbal based.

Sam [00:18:58]:
Oh, yeah.

Chris [00:18:59]:
You know, they they’re quite sharp in their comments or manipulative. And and I was reading this article, and I was like, yes. I was married to one of those.

Sam [00:19:12]:
I was thinking, yes. My psycho sam my psycho ex boss was psycho.

Chris [00:19:16]:
Yeah. I don’t

Sam [00:19:16]:
now don’t need to study.

Chris [00:19:18]:
Absolutely. And, yeah. That’s probably why I’d, bit yeah. A bit slow on getting so many women because I just assume they’re all psychos.

Sam [00:19:29]:
Well, The one way to look. But I was doing a survey the other day, randomly. And, so if you go on TikTok and stuff or just anywhere, there’s all these people who are like, I’m ADHD. I’ve got I’ve got diagnosed. So there’s like you it chris a lot of money. You got to pay over $1,000 or something. You get professionally diagnosed. Yeah.

Sam [00:19:47]:
And then they may or may not give you something and I said to her, what why are we hearing about this now? What is the benefit of having these like, what? Who cares? Like and she said, well, if you give sam drugs The you might be able to have focus. Because she said you’re all over the place. You got like a 1,000,000 things. And I was like, okay. Cool. I have no idea what that’s like, you know, at all.

Chris [00:20:07]:
But she What? Lack of focus?

Sam [00:20:09]:
No. The million things in my head.

Chris [00:20:12]:
Oh, okay.

Sam [00:20:12]:
Like, she’s she’s like and things going on at all the same time and I’m just like, okay. I don’t have that. But she was saying they never diagnosed females or young girls as having these as kids back in the day because they don’t play out like a male or a boy.

Chris [00:20:30]:
Plus The didn’t teach them anything that required that level of focus.

Sam [00:20:34]:
No. No. No. It’s the boy yeah. No. No. Just they were still going through everything exactly the sam, but they don’t act out just like psychopaths.

Chris [00:20:41]:
Right.

Sam [00:20:42]:
Very similar. So the boys will throw shit and destroy a classroom.

Chris [00:20:46]:
Right.

Sam [00:20:47]:
Alright. They need they need diagnosis. But now you’ve got all these middle aged women who are just like you see these TikToks and they’re like, do you get home and wanna do this, this, and this, and all that? And it’s just like check, check, check, check. Yes. That’s what you do. Like

Chris [00:21:02]:
yeah. Oh, well. Okay. I I I sam this thing earlier too. What was it? The the headline just grabbed me so I had to check the headline out and then it was so anticlimactic. So the headline was Tesla Fjord chris passengers saved by floating sauna users.

Sam [00:21:30]:
Yes.

Chris [00:21:31]:
And I’m like and in my head, I’ve got a Tesla going down a mountain cliff

Sam [00:21:36]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:21:36]:
Into the sea and then these

Sam [00:21:39]:
Guys are floating fast.

Chris [00:21:40]:
Floating badge thing or something. And so it had a a TV, a a move you know, video of of of it. And it’s like, oh, it drove off the wharf. Oh, okay. And there’s a badge over The, Norway because it’s Norway. Norwegian, it it’s a badge which is just a a a cabin on it Yeah. With The sauna. And these guys are getting out and helping the guys in.

Chris [00:22:07]:
They didn’t even dive into the water. They just, like, helping The out.

Sam [00:22:10]:
Don’t worry about that.

Chris [00:22:11]:
No. It’s like, okay. That’s, great headlines. Sort of anticlimactic.

Sam [00:22:16]:
What happened with bloody yesterday and all the petrol stations in the country? That was annoying.

Chris [00:22:20]:
What happened? Well, so do you know the last time I bought petrol?

Sam [00:22:25]:
No, no, no. I don’t know.

Chris [00:22:26]:
Months months ago.

Sam [00:22:27]:
So The is only one system that does all the pay at pump things for any brand and Venco. Self-service payment. Right? And their system couldn’t deal with Leapia yesterday. So you couldn’t they had shuttled down any self-service station. So they got, like, 4 years or 3 years and 364 days or whatever to sort this out. No. No. It’s a tech tech glitch.

Sam [00:22:54]:
I think it’s alright today. But, Yeah. So if it’s a standalone thing like Gull or whatever,

Chris [00:23:00]:
nah.

Sam [00:23:00]:
Wouldn’t work. Normal petrol station. You’d have to go inside and do it for you. The What a weird glitch, hey? Because I’ve obviously gone through it before. It’s not the y two k thing.

Chris [00:23:12]:
I know. Because it is it was the immediately thing the thing I was thinking of because I was, yeah, I I I I started Telecom after y two k, but but it was still reverberating around the organization, then. But, yeah, the the lead up to y two k, we thought everything was going to be

Sam [00:23:31]:
Explode.

Chris [00:23:32]:
Yeah. It’s gonna be

Sam [00:23:33]:
So that and. Day. Online as well this week, they had do you see the Willy Wonka immersive experience?

Chris [00:23:40]:
Yeah. I actually did have a look at that.

Sam [00:23:42]:
Yeah. Oh, my gosh. It was $44 that used AI, creation in the marketing. So it looked amazing.

Chris [00:23:49]:
Was that book? Oh, okay.

Sam [00:23:50]:
Yes. Yes. See? It’s

Chris [00:23:52]:
£35. Yeah. Oh, holy crap.

Sam [00:23:55]:
And then you just turn up and it’s just a sketchy warehouse with a couple of things in each corner and The one person here dressed as and oompa limpa. It look like a meth lab.

Chris [00:24:08]:
Yeah. And they and they closed down because the first few people were so upset. They closed it down, and all these people started arriving with tickets. And it’s like, sorry. It’s been closed. Yeah. So there’s almost a riot outside. Now that’s crazy.

Chris [00:24:23]:
Hey. I got a couple of rent ranty things to go.

Sam [00:24:26]:
Okay. Go on.

Chris [00:24:27]:
Okay. So first and, News Hub closing down. That’s,

Sam [00:24:31]:
That’s a bit crazy.

Chris [00:24:32]:
It’s crazy. There’s 2 two things. Like, first of all, I totally get it. Like, the business model for these things, you know, news news organizations chris is stuffed, and they have to find a new one. And The nobody’s found a decent business model yet.

Sam [00:24:49]:
No. It doesn’t help that you’ve got chris multi global national worldwide thing that owns it, I think. No. They’re more they did lose a bunch of money, but I think they’re more interested in pushing their other and content.

Chris [00:25:03]:
Yeah. Yeah. And and I’ve started watching Ash versus The of the Dead again on that rando content because they’ve got it free. So

Sam [00:25:10]:
so this yeah. So this morning so they got basically, they said, yeah. We’re closing down.

Chris [00:25:16]:
In June. Yeah.

Sam [00:25:17]:
But we may close earlier.

Chris [00:25:18]:
Yeah. Oh, do they?

Sam [00:25:19]:
Yes. But you have to stay till June if you want your redundancy. Your redundancy should be quite big for some of The, like Michael Roberts and those guys. Yeah. Must be Megawax. But come talk to us in within 2 weeks if you’ve got an idea. We can extend that 2 weeks as well. So the senior journalists are all gonna get together and try and see if they come up with a plan.

Chris [00:25:38]:
Right.

Sam [00:25:39]:
Just, in The similar vein that WhatsHer Face, who’s the editor at stuff.co.nz, brought that for a dollar back in the day when they were getting rid of that.

Chris [00:25:48]:
Oh, is that how that worked?

Sam [00:25:50]:
Yes. I didn’t know that. So we don’t know, and they’re trying to figure out what it should be. Some commentators I saw were like or some of the people involved were like, man, we’re really surprised that they didn’t try and have a digital product. Yeah. Because delivering it to people’s phones and stuff, you could still be News Hub

Chris [00:26:11]:
Yeah.

Sam [00:26:11]:
And but shrink it down.

Chris [00:26:12]:
Yeah. So I don’t know. Well, I think because The Herald tried that and the Herald did pretty crap at it. But I think that’s because they got crap journalists. So

Sam [00:26:20]:
But then they put paywalls on the random of stories. Yeah. Yeah. Like, you just read a random story and it’s just like

Chris [00:26:26]:
Yeah. Yeah. No. I I I get what you mean. Yeah. So the I get all that. The the sad thing or the the poor thing, the thing that’s gonna be a problem is The, for when something big happens, you know, you

Sam [00:26:40]:
Yeah. Exactly. Gonna go

Chris [00:26:41]:
to you’re gonna have to go to TVNZ. Mhmm. And it’s not bad. You know, we’ve got someone at least, but it’s not good to have and source of news.

Sam [00:26:52]:
So interestingly, I didn’t know The, there’s news at 5:30 on Prime, which is owned by Sky, but the news bid is done by News Hub. Chris, what’s his face does it?

Chris [00:27:01]:
Yep. So Sky That’s gone as well.

Sam [00:27:04]:
It will be gone and Sky doesn’t have its own internal news thing at The local level. So they’re like, is there room for that? Like, to create something for The? I don’t know. But it’s weird because people like the And The face that does the guilt podcast, does the murder, you know, the missing people thing. He’s like he he he’s like, oh, I’m looking at expanding my podcast network and what we’re doing. Any journalists wanna talk to me. Keen as. Like Yeah.

Chris [00:27:37]:
And and I and The that’s what I’m thinking it’ll do. It’ll fragment into a lot of, you know, what’s it?

Sam [00:27:44]:
Duncan Garner.

Chris [00:27:44]:
Webworm. Web DevFerry? DevFerry is saying.

Sam [00:27:47]:
Yeah. Webworm. Yeah. Webworm.

Chris [00:27:49]:
Yeah. A bunch of those sorts of things.

Sam [00:27:50]:
Clever and they’re onto it and they know what they’re doing. Yes. Easy. I think that’s what some of

Chris [00:27:56]:
them And they’ve it helps if they’ve got a bit of a The or Oh, yeah. Totally. Lying already.

Sam [00:28:00]:
Yeah. Because Patrick Gower is like one of the ones out of NewsHub.

Chris [00:28:03]:
Yeah.

Sam [00:28:03]:
With chris big, mullet y head. Like, chris mopper here and he’s he looked weird with a big big, furry that he had going.

Chris [00:28:09]:
Because he did the, extemporaneous talk and

Sam [00:28:12]:
Oh, did he? Ra ra.

Chris [00:28:13]:
After the announcement. Yeah. He just stood up and spoke to everybody.

Sam [00:28:16]:
He’s one of those people who just like, yeah. Okay, bro. Yeah. We all know. Where is he? We all know he’s gonna do it.

Chris [00:28:22]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. It’s he’s he’s like the antithesis in some ways of John Campbell. Like, John Campbell used to do that and everybody be like, yes. Patrick Gallagher does it and everyone goes, oh, no.

Sam [00:28:35]:
That’s right. We can we can end this podcast, but you get to choose. It’s pick your own story. A woman loses a $1,300,000 claim over insurance or a man staged a farm accident and, dropped his feet off.

Chris [00:28:49]:
We talked about the farm accident last week, so let’s go with the other one.

Sam [00:28:53]:
Did we? Yeah. I don’t think we did.

Chris [00:28:56]:
I’m sure we did.

Sam [00:28:57]:
Tell me about it.

Chris [00:28:58]:
It’s the guy that was actually in a wheelchair anyway. And,

Sam [00:29:02]:
I’m sure we didn’t talk about it.

Chris [00:29:04]:
I’m sure we did.

Sam [00:29:05]:
Have you just read it?

Chris [00:29:06]:
No. Well, sure. I we talked about it last week. I’m sure we did.

Sam [00:29:10]:
No. I’m losing I mean Let’s

Chris [00:29:12]:
do it The other and. Anyway.

Sam [00:29:13]:
I don’t know. I’m gonna check on that. It’s not not it’s not nah. I normally don’t remember what we’re talking about. Anyways, so this woman, she had a car chris, and she had a bunch of injuries and she was claiming for $1,300,000. She was suffering disabling injuries. She couldn’t do anything.

Chris [00:29:32]:
Who’s she claiming that off? Like, the

Sam [00:29:34]:
insurance company.

Chris [00:29:35]:
Oh, okay. Not the people that crashed into her or or anything like that?

Sam [00:29:39]:
No. I think it was just the insurance. And it was on the basis that she could not work for more than 5 years or play with her children due to back and neck injury. She suffered following the car accident in 2017. Okay. The problem is in January 2018, she’s on the front page of the local paper throwing a Christmas tree. And because, they’ve seen that, they’ve, sort of said no. And she she’s arguing.

Sam [00:30:01]:
She goes no. No. I I am stuffed. I just I was in so much pain. I was just taking part in this community event of throwing a Christmas tree. And they’re like, no. Yeah. It’s a very So

Chris [00:30:13]:
that that Christmas tree cost a $1,300,000 effect?

Sam [00:30:17]:
Yeah. It’s a very large natural Christmas tree, said the independent judge, and it’s being thrown by her in a very agile movement.

Chris [00:30:26]:
Yeah. I’m afraid I She’s not even on the ground in that photo, is she? She’s left the ground and she’s got

Sam [00:30:30]:
one leg on her of one leg. Yeah. I’m afraid I cannot but conclude the claims were entirely exaggerated. On that basis, I propose to dismiss it. She couldn’t She said to her doctor she couldn’t even lift a heavy bag without feeling shooting pain due to injuries. So, just remember, if you’re doing something and you’re, caught, on a front page of a newspaper

Chris [00:30:52]:
I I gotta tell you this now. And and and, Karl, if you listen to this, I’m sorry, but I had to. So I I was catching up with Carl and a few others. Yeah. We had a a team, lunch when Nat was in town this week. And just randomly, Cal’s partner, Moira, has had a frozen shoulder for a while.

Sam [00:31:11]:
Oh, okay.

Chris [00:31:12]:
For months.

Sam [00:31:13]:
Oh, wow.

Chris [00:31:13]:
And she’s had a few of those, cortisone, I think injections and all that sort of thing. And Calcutta, the other night, I’m I’m and asleep. It’s 2 in the morning or some something and I get woken up cow cow cow cow and it he’s like, what what is it? He’s like, sam somebody broken in the house? Do I have to go and get a baseball bat?

Sam [00:31:31]:
Yeah. Yeah. She goes,

Chris [00:31:32]:
look, my arms in the air. I didn’t it

Sam [00:31:35]:
doesn’t hurt at all. And he’s like, cool.

Chris [00:31:41]:
Can I go back

Sam [00:31:43]:
The sleep? That’s awesome. That’s what you want.

Chris [00:31:47]:
Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, I thought it was hilarious. Anyway, that brings us to you to the podcast.

Sam [00:31:53]:
And so yeah.

Chris [00:31:54]:
Yeah. What’s come come up and exciting? No. So not this weekend. The following weekend is the guy, and director’s course with Guy. So check out the

Sam [00:32:04]:
Not sold out.

Chris [00:32:05]:
Oh, it’s sold out? Oh, okay. Right. Well

Sam [00:32:08]:
Too late.

Chris [00:32:09]:
You’re too late.

Sam [00:32:09]:
They should have had bigger space and stuff, but I don’t know. Yeah. See how it goes.

Chris [00:32:13]:
Yeah. Yeah. 20 seats seemed way small, which I’m I’m not complaining about because

Sam [00:32:19]:
he’s driving. But I think he it must be so he can talk to everyone.

Chris [00:32:23]:
Yeah. That’s what I’m saying. It’ll be a little bit more one on one, which is cool. It’ll be good to catch up with Guy again. Yeah. The, so that’s

Sam [00:32:29]:
the only

Chris [00:32:30]:
I think it’s interesting thing I’ve got going on. We will be doing, an announcement for the Misty Flix challenge, shortly. Yep. I’m working on the video this weekend. I’ll get that done.

Sam [00:32:39]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:32:39]:
So yeah.

Sam [00:32:40]:
Okay. Until next time. I’m Sam.

Chris [00:32:42]:
I’m Chris.

Sam [00:32:42]:
See you.

Chris [00:32:43]:
Bye.