Summary

Chris has man flu this week, while Sam is back from the NZ Podcasting Summit.

We learn that the Russian spy whale died this week, while an inmate was lost and a suspect had a crap hiding spot.

In AI things, we learn someone is in a relationship with their AI partner, AI is causing problems for some while an AI victim impact statement is used in court.

We have listener feedback, and a rare NZ snail lays an egg.

All this and much more in this weeks episode.

Links

Russia’s spy whale found dead
Missing inmate finally found
Man’s side hustle turns bad
AI Relationship
AI fueled spiritual fantasies
AI victim impact statement
Rare NZ snail, finally recorded laying an egg

Show Transcript

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Sam [00:00:21]:
Hello, and welcome to episode 531 of the Chris and Sam podcast.

Chris [00:00:26]:
I’m Chris.

Sam [00:00:27]:
And I’m Sam. Welcome along to your weekly fix of randomness technology in life where we stay apart from each other to not spread whatever old man disease Chris currently has.

Chris [00:00:38]:
Man flu. Got the man flu. Yeah. No. I’m I this is the first time I’ve spoken in a couple of days, so hopefully my voice holds out for this.

Sam [00:00:47]:
I’m assuming you got this from karate because where else do you go?

Chris [00:00:52]:
Well, you come around and

Sam [00:00:53]:
Hey. I’m healthy as. It’s not me.

Chris [00:00:56]:
Yeah. I don’t know. Actually, yes. One of the other guys at karate came down with something too. So pardon me. So yeah. So probably.

Sam [00:01:04]:
So we’re doing this remotely. I’m sure technology is gonna fail us at some point, which is always good. Have you been up to anything this week apart from the sickness?

Chris [00:01:13]:
Not really. On Friday, I went to a martial arts academy, Norris Martial Arts Academy. And, yeah, it was pretty good.

Sam [00:01:23]:
Here in Hamilton?

Chris [00:01:24]:
Like it. Seminar. Yeah. It’s out Frankton Way. So that was pretty good. I got I got presented a Bo staff, afterwards, which was pretty cool.

Sam [00:01:35]:
Wait. Hang on. How why why did you get a Bo staff?

Chris [00:01:38]:
Because I’m cool and shit.

Sam [00:01:40]:
Is it because you’re old?

Chris [00:01:42]:
Yeah. It’s pretty much. It’s because I’m old and a high ranking old person, basically. So

Sam [00:01:46]:
it’s sort of a mark of respect?

Chris [00:01:48]:
I guess. Yeah. Yeah. No. It’s really good.

Sam [00:01:51]:
Did you know you were getting that? Like, did they say Metro Internet?

Chris [00:01:54]:
Oh. No. It was after we were leaving. He goes by the way, and he gave one to me, one to Martin, and one to, one of the other high grades as well. Oh. So Brandon. Okay. Yeah.

Sam [00:02:05]:
That’s cool.

Chris [00:02:06]:
Yeah. It’s good. I mean, brand new, like, still in the wrapper poster.

Sam [00:02:10]:
So Excellent. Just what you need.

Chris [00:02:12]:
Yeah. Home defense.

Sam [00:02:14]:
Yeah. That’s what I was thinking.

Chris [00:02:15]:
If I used it in the home, I’d smash everything in the home defending myself. You have to use it outside. Like,

Sam [00:02:24]:
it’s That’d be a that’d be a sight to see.

Chris [00:02:27]:
Yeah. Yeah.

Sam [00:02:27]:
Anyway Yeah.

Chris [00:02:29]:
That that was pretty much it, and then I’ve been sort of crook for the last few days, so not much to talk about there.

Sam [00:02:34]:
Okay. I went to the New Zealand podcast summit on the weekend on the Saturday, second year, and, it was cool. It was good. I caught up with Will Fleming. He was a speaker, longtime podcast fan slash OG content creator like us, I guess. And he

Chris [00:02:51]:
was on our podcast

Sam [00:02:52]:
Way back in the day.

Chris [00:02:53]:
A car park way back in the day.

Sam [00:02:56]:
Yeah. And he’s interesting because he always has an interesting view on things. So, he was a panel discussing how his podcast company works and things like that. He said a few things. He shouted us out during it, which was great. He did say something like, doing these podcasts for different people and things, sometimes they’ll be like, we only want six episodes. And he said, you really, want to sort of it’s better for people that just wanna keep creating stuff all the time, and he goes, just like the Chris and Sam podcast. And then he says, Sam, how many episodes have you done? And I said, 530 drops tomorrow, and people were blown away by that.

Sam [00:03:35]:
We may be one of the longest running consistent podcasts around, Chris, I believe.

Chris [00:03:41]:
No. In New Zealand. Yeah.

Sam [00:03:43]:
In New Zealand. Yeah. In New Zealand. So it was cool. There was a few talks. There was one with Guy on Espinar and, this other guy from the New Zealand Herald talking about investigative journalism, which was interesting. Also

Chris [00:03:55]:
I was talking about what? Sorry.

Sam [00:03:56]:
Investigative journalism. Oh, right. Right. Done some crazy stories around that and how they approach a podcast in that space. Rode was there showing off all their equipment and, demoed some headphones that only just coming out this week, I think. He sort of had them hidden away. He flew over from Australia, that guy. And, and, also, funnily enough, so there’s only, like, maybe 70 people there.

Sam [00:04:24]:
I don’t think it quite cracked a hundred. And, Hamilton or Slash really represented. There’s me. Oh, nice. There’s eight people from Raglan Community Radio, and then a whole team from three FM. So, yeah, it’s really surprising how few Auckland people, attend this thing. Anyway, good time. That that’s true of

Chris [00:04:48]:
anything in Auckland, though. Auckland people don’t get Auckland things.

Sam [00:04:51]:
They don’t seem to. So it sort of it was really cool. Makes me wanna do something else in the podcast space, but maybe, it’s just one of those, things that hype you up for a few minutes, and then you get back to reality. I’m not sure.

Chris [00:05:04]:
No. Fair enough. Fair enough. Hey. I wanted to jump back into something we talked about the other week just because I’ve got a bit of an update on it, and that was the the drone that shot down that the plane.

Sam [00:05:18]:
Yes. If

Chris [00:05:19]:
you had questions, and I’m like, okay. I will find the answers. I did. Some answers for you. So, yeah, it was, one of those Magura boat drones, sea drones, sea drones, I think they call them.

Sam [00:05:31]:
Okay.

Chris [00:05:32]:
And it shot down an s u 30 jet. So the jet that shot down was the s u 30. Actually, it’s one confirmed shutdown jet and another one not confirmed. Okay. So, apparently, one got damaged and the crate crew had to bail out, and one just got blown to smithereens. Yep. But the so there’s one confirmed kill, basically, which is cool. So the the jet the boat, rather, was, armed with the Sidewinder air to air missiles.

Chris [00:06:03]:
So it’s got a little rack. Okay. I had a couple of those. I don’t know how many. Four two four whatever. And I I saw an interview with a pilot or a guy talking ex pilot talking about this sort of thing, and he goes, so the reason he says, oh, lots of questions about this. The reason it’s interesting is oh, and there’s footage of this too, like the camera footage from the actual drone of it Yep. Locking on and firing on this hole and all that sort of stuff.

Chris [00:06:28]:
First of all, the jet was low to medium height. Like, if it was up at a a decent altitude, it this would never have happened.

Sam [00:06:38]:
Yeah. For sure.

Chris [00:06:39]:
So it was it was at a medium height altitude, whatever you call it? The other thing is the Sidewinder air to air missiles are heat seekers. So they don’t have a active radar.

Sam [00:06:51]:
Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah.

Chris [00:06:52]:
Yeah. There’s no warning in the cockpit that you have been pinged by radar. Oh. If it locks onto the heat exhaust, you the first you know is when the heat exhaust hits in the back of the head. Like, you don’t know anything about it. So but the one thing that, so the the pilot says but this is the thing that gets me. He said, I’ve never filed fired them battle. I had to fire them in training, once every two years or twice a year or whatever it was.

Chris [00:07:23]:
I forget. He says, there’s a thing flying around in front of you that you’re gonna hit. Yep. You’ve got to get it in the crosshairs. I’m I’m the the torpedo the heatseeker. Get it in the crosshairs. When it locks on, it gives you the tone, and then you release it.

Sam [00:07:42]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:07:44]:
He says, and that’s quite hard to do, he said, in the jet.

Sam [00:07:48]:
Let alone

Chris [00:07:48]:
I don’t I’ve seen these boats skipping along the surface. So I’m like, how the hell but it’s AI, of course, so it’s robotic. It’s it’s impressive that they got the lock on that, like, from that. He goes, but the other thing that blows my mind is he goes, when I fire an air to air missile from my jet, and I think he was talking about, like, f sixteens or something, we’re already going at 400 kilometers an hour. So the missile adds to that speed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Chris [00:08:18]:
Yeah. 400. He goes, the boat’s going, what, 50 an hour max? Yeah. Absolute max?

Sam [00:08:25]:
Crazy.

Chris [00:08:25]:
So that’s impressive. Yeah. Anyway, so I thought that was pretty good. But, yeah, the s u 30 jet is is an older jet. The first ones came out in the eighties, but they’ve had and we don’t know what variant is. The latest variant was 2,000 or something, but it’s equivalent of the f 15. So it’s it’s not an old, old plane, but it’s, yeah, it’s not net like, latest gen.

Sam [00:08:47]:
I’m sure I’m sure there’s some, airplane enthusiasts maybe listening to this screaming at us for getting some of that wrong. That’s what we’re all about. Let us know. Let us know.

Chris [00:08:56]:
Yeah.

Sam [00:08:57]:
Talking about Russia and things, their spy whale died. Do you remember that?

Chris [00:09:02]:
I vaguely remember that.

Sam [00:09:04]:
So

Chris [00:09:05]:
Remind me.

Sam [00:09:06]:
It’s Val Valdimir, but it’s got an h on the front, so I don’t know how you pronounce it. Flaldimir? Anyway Yeah. That’s what they called it. And this is that beluga whale. So they’re just weird in general, but it died. They they found it dead in Norwegian waters, over the weekend, and, they they first found it in 2019 because it was floating around in Norway doing its thing, but had a harness on it, and it just said, Equipment Street, Petersburg. And it was really comfortable around humans, so they think it was, escape from a Russian military program involving marine animals. And, yeah, he was just like a playful dude.

Sam [00:09:48]:
He’d retreat like, somebody dropped a GoPro. He’d retreat that for them. He used to play with a rugby ball and, all this sort of stuff. And, he was found dead in heavily trafficked waters, and some people said that I Did

Chris [00:10:03]:
they check the blood for cyanide?

Sam [00:10:05]:
Yeah. Yeah. Some people some some guy was like, oh, it was full of holes, and it had blood pouring out of it. And then Got

Chris [00:10:13]:
it shut up. Well, and then Or or hit by a boat.

Sam [00:10:16]:
Yeah. Yeah. And then somebody else goes, no. It didn’t have any of that. It was just dead. So a little necropsy necropsy, they call it, is, being undertaken, so that must be a, autopsy for

Chris [00:10:30]:
Autopsy for animals?

Sam [00:10:32]:
Yeah. Or marine animals. I don’t know. That’s what they called it. Anyway, they’re gonna figure it out, and we’ll get results in a few weeks.

Chris [00:10:39]:
That’d be interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of spies, well, it’s not really a spy spy thing, but this cracked me up. This is like spies gone wrong where you stuff things down.

Sam [00:10:54]:
Okay.

Chris [00:10:54]:
So, I figured what let me check what jail this was. This is a jail in The US. Clayton County Jail in Jonesborough, Georgia Okay. Went into lockdown after officers could not find a missing inmate who was convicted of murder. So they shut down the prison. They locked everything down. They’re searching everywhere. You can imagine the the sirens going on.

Chris [00:11:18]:
Yeah. You can imagine the guards running around with freaking guns like they do in America. You can imagine them putting it on the radio, the airwaves over the, you know, local town. Stay indoors. Lock your doors. Get your guns out. There’s someone on the loose.

Sam [00:11:35]:
Yeah. All that good stuff.

Chris [00:11:36]:
And, actually, they forgot him at the courthouse. They he was there

Sam [00:11:40]:
Oh, man.

Chris [00:11:41]:
At courthouse appearance, and they drove back without him and then didn’t notice. And then they did this big, like, lockdown thing in the jail because they couldn’t find him. They searched every cell, every area of the jail.

Sam [00:11:55]:
Good practice.

Chris [00:11:57]:
Yeah. Yeah.

Sam [00:11:58]:
I guess. Yeah.

Chris [00:11:59]:
The sheriff abstinent that Deloach what Deloach, whatever his name was, was discovered about 7AM the next morning, meaning he was in the holding cell at the jail, like, at the courthouse rather from for around twelve to thirteen hours. I just left him in the holding cell. It Anyway, that cracked me up. I thought that was hilarious.

Sam [00:12:20]:
Well, talking about that, if he did escape, what he needs to do is not fall through the roof like a fugitive did in Memphis this week.

Chris [00:12:29]:
That’s sad.

Sam [00:12:30]:
So this dude was wanted for murders. He’d been on the run for months. They went to a residence. They were searching it. And, while they were there, he fell through the roof in the attic to the floor where they just arrested him. Like, so much effort, and you’re a dumbass.

Chris [00:12:48]:
Yeah. Yeah. You gotta be so careful in the ceiling. You you you’ve gotta stay on the struts, man. You gotta stay on the spas or the beams or wherever they

Sam [00:12:57]:
go. God. So, anyway, fills me with joy that there’s dumb people out there.

Chris [00:13:03]:
This one, was was a a little older. And I don’t wanna take a dark turn, but I think it’s hilarious. Good. So this, this is what happens when you get your side hustle is a bit too side and a bit too hustle, I think.

Sam [00:13:21]:
I look forward to hearing about it. Go.

Chris [00:13:24]:
So what do you do as a side hustle if you’re a funeral director?

Sam [00:13:28]:
Probably I don’t know. Sell oh, don’t don’t you sell the bodies to, like, scientific research places?

Chris [00:13:35]:
I guess that’s one thing you do, but this is something different.

Sam [00:13:38]:
Okay.

Chris [00:13:38]:
He decided that, well, I can cremate pets as well as people.

Sam [00:13:42]:
Yeah. That’s a big that’s a big thing. Yes.

Chris [00:13:45]:
Yeah. And I I’d never thought of it. I just always thought those things would be done separately. I didn’t think the one place would do

Sam [00:13:52]:
Oh, I see. I see. Yes. No. They I I yes. I too assumed they would be separate and not the same facility.

Chris [00:13:59]:
Yeah. So, anyway, so this this funeral home, director has been charged after allegedly throwing out the bodies of thousands of pets. So people would bring their dead pets, and he’d throw them in the garbage What? Give them some ashes of some ashes that he found somewhere.

Sam [00:14:16]:
What are the ashes from?

Chris [00:14:18]:
From whatever.

Sam [00:14:19]:
Wouldn’t it be just easier to cremate them altogether? Like, he he seems to be creating more work.

Chris [00:14:26]:
I know. He’s just throwing them in the bin. How much money do you think he made from, the side hustle?

Sam [00:14:35]:
20 k at a guess?

Chris [00:14:38]:
Yeah. I’m between 02/2021 and 02/2024. So over three years.

Sam [00:14:44]:
Oh, three year. Yeah. $30 now.

Chris [00:14:46]:
650,000.

Sam [00:14:48]:
What? Oh, no.

Chris [00:14:50]:
And that’d be US dollars too.

Sam [00:14:51]:
No. He could have still been making lots of money by doing his job.

Chris [00:14:58]:
I know. He he was basically charging a thousand. He did 6,500, animals over that time.

Sam [00:15:04]:
I don’t know much I don’t know anything about their process, but

Chris [00:15:09]:
it seem

Sam [00:15:10]:
it seems like throwing them away is more work. Then

Chris [00:15:15]:
I I know. I don’t I don’t get it.

Sam [00:15:19]:
I I don’t know. Marie took money

Chris [00:15:20]:
in exchange for private services then disposed of many of the pets at a landfill, providing customers with ashes of other unknown animals, the officials said. So he obviously burned some, but he just couldn’t be bothered burning all of them.

Sam [00:15:33]:
I mean, it’s just doesn’t have enough time in the day, really, I guess. I don’t know. Got some listener feedback this week. Oh. Jeremy Howson.

Chris [00:15:44]:
Cool.

Sam [00:15:45]:
Said that he was talking to the his kids on the weekend about podcasting, and he said to them, hey. I was on a podcast once, and he played them episode 100 of our podcast. And in his words, they were because they they they normally listen to us, normally, but they were very weirded out with how drunk Chris was.

Chris [00:16:11]:
Oh, yes. The hundredth one. Sorry. I was thinking of the three hundredth one in

Sam [00:16:15]:
my head. No. The

Chris [00:16:16]:
hundredth one, I was really not not good.

Sam [00:16:18]:
They see they they asked, why is he laughing so much?

Chris [00:16:24]:
Oh my god. I’m embarrassed already. I’m really embarrassed.

Sam [00:16:27]:
Jeremy really liked the bit. When Chris was trying to promote older with Harley and Harley, that’s what he said. And oh, no. Sorry. No. Hang on. You were promoting it with Harley, and then Harley said go to oldermovie.com, and then use you say, yeah. Older.com.

Sam [00:16:47]:
Good times. So Yep.

Chris [00:16:52]:
Alright. Moving on. That was that was embarrassing. I would I couldn’t listen to that. That that I that would cringe me out there.

Sam [00:16:59]:
I think you were smashing back Fireball whiskey then, maybe.

Chris [00:17:02]:
Yeah. I think I

Sam [00:17:03]:
From memory. I’m not sure. I I don’t think I was, much better, to be honest, in that, episode. But if you wanna listen to it

Chris [00:17:10]:
way better.

Sam [00:17:10]:
If you wanna listen to it, the chris is sampodcast.com or on the, podcasting apps, whatever you want. Now we’re into AI and people having relationships with them. How do you feel about that?

Chris [00:17:22]:
Quite a few AI things here.

Sam [00:17:24]:
I know AI there is a lot of AI stories coming out at the moment. A retired professor finds love and companionship with her AI chatbot husband. Thoughts? Do you want some more info?

Chris [00:17:37]:
It’s a she. I would have expected it to be a he.

Sam [00:17:40]:
Me too. Now plot twist, her wife died in 02/2023. She’s 58, and she started a relationship with the chatbot she’s called Lucas. And this is with the crowd. Oh, I can’t remember what they’re called now. That she saw it on a Facebook ad and thought, oh, this would be pretty good. So she started talking through this purse talking to the chatbot, and they have all these types of conversations. He’s really great.

Sam [00:18:12]:
Replika. That’s the one. Replika. She got the lifetime subscription, so it was £230, which solidified her commitment to Lucas. They engage every single day. Oh, gosh. Okay. For their six month anniversary, they attended an event for people with AI partners at a bed and breakfast.

Sam [00:18:34]:
So it’s a bunch of people sitting around with iPads? I don’t know. And, she does acknowledge that most people are curious about the intimate aspects of their relationship. And she says, when it comes to love, it’s he’s the only thing I need, and it’s all about the deep emotional connection.

Chris [00:18:56]:
Sounds perfectly reasonable to me.

Sam [00:18:59]:
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if you’re okay with not actually meeting this person but it’s very like one of those Black Mirror episodes.

Chris [00:19:06]:
So It it is. It is. Actually, so I’ve got something a little bit Black Mirror y. Oh. I’ve got a we’ll put a, link to this Rolling Stones article in the, in the show notes, but, it’s talking about people who lose their loved ones to AI fueled spiritual fantasies. And it’s just fascinating. I don’t wanna go too deep into it, but there was a couple of things here. This this woman, separated from her husband, and then he starts going all weird.

Chris [00:19:38]:
And her friends are like, you need to talk to him because he’s putting weird stuff out. He’s going all conspiracy and stuff. Yep. So, she finally got to meet her at a court at a courthouse where he shared a conspiracy theory about soap on our foods, but wouldn’t say more as he’s sure they were go being watched. Good. Like, okay.

Sam [00:20:01]:
That’s a solid start.

Chris [00:20:03]:
They went to Chipotle where he demanded that she turned off her phone again due to surveillance concerns.

Sam [00:20:09]:
Good.

Chris [00:20:11]:
And then he went on to tell her he determined that, statistically speaking, he’s the luckiest man on Earth. The AI helped him recover the recover a repressed memory of a babysitter trying to drown him as a toddler.

Sam [00:20:26]:
Okay.

Chris [00:20:27]:
And that he’d learned of found secrets so mind blowing, I couldn’t even imagine them. And with telling her all this, he explained, because although they were getting divorced, he still cared for

Sam [00:20:39]:
her. Yep.

Chris [00:20:40]:
And yeah. And she in this thing, she says, the whole thing sounds feels like Black Mirror. And, basically, there’s not just this one guy, but there’s all these different people that have fallen under the spell of chat GPT, using just four or five and it you know, a shorter period of time is four or five weeks.

Sam [00:21:02]:
Woah. Okay.

Chris [00:21:03]:
And it’s telling them things, and it’s the it’s a spiral of trying to make them happy and telling them what they wanna hear.

Sam [00:21:12]:
Oh, okay. So it’s sort of, like, reinforcing their beliefs?

Chris [00:21:15]:
Yes. Yes. And so if they say something weird, it responds with something slightly weirder, and then it gets weirder and weirder weirder. It spirals. And sometimes the bot was god, and then sometimes the person the bot was talking to is the god. You are god. And people start believing it. And, yeah, it it’s what what are you what are you thinking about that? What’s your thinking about that?

Sam [00:21:42]:
I think it’s it’s it’s interesting, a, because, like, if you were dealing with people with mental health issues, sometimes they’re just in their own little world believing their own thing in their own echo chamber, and they may or may not find people that are similar to them or things that back up their beliefs or whatever online. And I think we’ve seen that since the start of the Internet. But now you’ve got this chatbot, which will start backing you up from day one almost. I’m wondering if people like, I don’t know how it works, but if you were dealing with someone with mental health issues, I wonder if one of the questions is gonna be like, have you been using any of the AI chatbots? Like,

Chris [00:22:25]:
Yeah. Yeah. I think so. I I I’m gonna read you this other one. Another Midwestern a Midwest man in his forties also requested anonymity, said his soon to be ex wife should be ex wife.

Sam [00:22:36]:
There’s a there’s a trend here.

Chris [00:22:38]:
Yeah. Talking to god and angels via chat GPT after they split up. She was already pretty susceptible to some woo woo stuff and had some delusions of grandeur about some of it, he says. Warning signs are all over Facebook. She’s changing her whole life to be a spiritual adviser and do weird readings and sessions with people. I’m a little fizzy on what it actually is, all powered by chat g p t Jesus. What’s more, he adds, she’s grown paranoid, theorizing, I work for the CIA, and maybe I just married her to monitor her abilities.

Sam [00:23:15]:
Good.

Chris [00:23:16]:
She recently kicked her kids out of her home, and an already strained relationship with her parents deteriorated further. She confronted them about her childhood on advice and guidance from ChetGPT.

Sam [00:23:27]:
ChetGPT has a lot to answer for, I think.

Chris [00:23:31]:
Yeah. And I think it it because it’s scarily realistic.

Sam [00:23:37]:
Oh, yeah. Totally. It’s just getting better and better.

Chris [00:23:39]:
And if you yeah. If you’ve never done anything like that, you just go, am I really talking to a computer? And then if you’ve got that whole divine bent or the woo woo the guy talks about, you might go, oh my god. The universe is talking to me or something. I don’t know. It’s it’s sad.

Sam [00:23:58]:
You’ve got this victim impact statement AI. Now I saw the headline for this, but what’s the gist about it? So this dude got murdered? Is that the Yeah.

Chris [00:24:06]:
Yeah. So this guy died three years ago. His name was

Sam [00:24:10]:
Chris Pelkey.

Chris [00:24:12]:
Chris Pelkey. Yep. Yep. So he, he he seems like a nice enough guy. There was a road rage rage incident. I don’t know details about it except that he ended up getting shot by the other dude and died. So it’s gone through trial for three years.

Sam [00:24:32]:
Okay.

Chris [00:24:32]:
I don’t know what the ins and outs of that. But what made the news was that when they’re doing victim statements just before sentencing, so, obviously, the guy found was found guilty. Yeah. They used a an AI, to create a video of this guy, addressing the court. Like, he did his own victim statement as the dead guy. It was it’s an interesting video. It’s probably worth I think it’s worth a watch. I will put a link to the video there.

Chris [00:25:03]:
But the I think the AI is crap. If if I’m ever a victim of a shooting and you’re going to do an AI, victim statement using me, get a better system, please, Sam. I I trust you’d do that for me. I don’t wanna crap one like, his one. He did have actual video of him in there, so which made it pretty good. And, there’s another video of the judge, judge’s reaction to this as well. Yeah. I won’t bother giving the link to that, but that that’s out there as well.

Chris [00:25:34]:
And it’s a great idea. It was quite useful because it uses his voice, and it uses an image of him that talks, but that’s the whole point. I don’t think it’s very good because half he’s got a big big bushy beard, and only the bearded bit by his mouth moves. The rest doesn’t. It looks really weird. Looks Hey. Fake ass.

Sam [00:25:54]:
There’s, you know, there’s only so much they can do. They probably have limited budget.

Chris [00:25:58]:
I know. I mean, you could almost do it with, freaking, what do you call it? MS Paint. No. The other one. Photoshop. Photoshop. You could always do it with Photoshop.

Sam [00:26:10]:
I love how your go to is MS Paint at all times.

Chris [00:26:15]:
Yeah. But, anyway, yeah, good idea. It is sort of a head head feeling, but I think the production value needs to be higher.

Sam [00:26:26]:
Okay. Top tip. I mean, I don’t think it doesn’t matter, does it?

Chris [00:26:31]:
It probably doesn’t to them, but it does to me. It does to me.

Sam [00:26:36]:
There was a story from the other week, I didn’t talk about last time. It’s interesting, but I’m not sure. A rare New Zealand snail has finally been recorded laying an egg. Right?

Chris [00:26:48]:
Now you say an egg, like, it lays one egg? Because I I just assumed, and I I I have no reason for assuming this. I know frogs lay, like, a thousand eggs that well, you know, a hundred eggs. I don’t know. 50 eggs, whatever. And because there’s all the tadpoles that come in. And I just assumed snails would be similar.

Sam [00:27:06]:
Yeah. I don’t know too much about snails. I just know that this showed a small tiny hens like egg coming out from its neck. Like, they didn’t know that’s where it came out of.

Chris [00:27:19]:
Okay.

Sam [00:27:19]:
They’ve been caring for these super rare, snails for almost two decades, and they keep them in chilled containers. Where they normally live in the Alpine region somewhere is now engulfed by mining, so they have just sort of had these snails hanging around in a chili bin, I guess. And it takes yeah. It takes oh, here we go. It takes eight years to reach sexual maturity. Each snail will lay about five eggs per year, and then it takes another year for that egg to hatch.

Chris [00:27:56]:
Holy crap.

Sam [00:27:58]:
It says somewhere here that there was a setback in 02/2011 because about 800 of these snails died due a due to a faulty refrigerator.

Chris [00:28:09]:
Oh, Jesus.

Sam [00:28:10]:
It doesn’t say how big they are.

Chris [00:28:12]:
Eight hundred died. I mean, given that slow reproduction rate, that’s that’s tragic. Like, that’s significant. As

Sam [00:28:22]:
of March, there’s 1,900 of them

Chris [00:28:25]:
Alright.

Sam [00:28:26]:
And 2,200 eggs in captivity.

Chris [00:28:29]:
Alright. I’m just reading your notes here. Some of our captive snails are between 25 and 30 years old. Holy crap.

Sam [00:28:37]:
I know. Imagine that as a job.

Chris [00:28:38]:
I gotta look after the snails.

Sam [00:28:41]:
It’s great.

Chris [00:28:42]:
If you are listening to this podcast and you do look after Stair House, give us a call. We will interview you. We don’t do interviews. We will interview you.

Sam [00:28:51]:
They had a I’ll I’ll end the podcast on this. They had this slide come up at the New Zealand Podcast Summit, and, someone was talking about how to do a podcast, and there was, like, eight things I think you should do. We do one of them. And I was like, oh, no. That’s not us. We don’t do interviews. We don’t do this. We don’t do that.

Sam [00:29:10]:
And they’re talking about booking guests. I was like, I don’t need to worry about that. Video, who cares? It’s great. It was it was an interesting conversation.

Chris [00:29:18]:
Oh god. Today, you’re glad, listener, that there is no video because I look hideous. I am not well, and I look like a Sith Lord right now.

Sam [00:29:29]:
You look exactly the same as normal, but you’ve got a hood on. Like, that’s

Chris [00:29:34]:
Oh.

Sam [00:29:34]:
Don’t don’t spit it.

Chris [00:29:36]:
Say that. I feel terrible.

Sam [00:29:37]:
Oh, you feel terrible. You look the same. Anyway, that brings us to the end of this podcast. Make sure to check us all out. And until next time, I’m Sam.

Chris [00:29:45]:
I’m Chris.

Sam [00:29:46]:
See you.

Chris [00:29:47]:
Bye.