Summary
This week, Sam shares a real-life scammer story that hits close to home and reminds us how clever modern bank scams can be. Chris talks about a blind marathon runner using AI glasses and tech to run untethered, while Air New Zealand brings lie-flat bunks to economy class.
We also laugh at FBI directors foiled by caps lock, high-stakes legal drama, warships tracked by Bluetooth, and some quirky Kickstarter projects. All this—and much more—in this week’s episode!
Links
Blind runner uses Be My Eyes
Air NZ and their new bunkbeds
Meta introduces mandatory program to train on how workers use computers
The Onion has agreed to a new deal to take over Infowars
Michael Myers Mannequin mistakenly shot
Kickstart or Dropkick – xLean TR1
Kickstart or Dropkick – Red Walnut Butter
Kash Patel – Meltdown
Show Transcript
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Sam [00:00:20]:
Hello and welcome to episode 577 of the Chris and Sam Podcast.
Chris [00:00:24]:
I’m Chris.
Sam [00:00:25]:
And I’m Sam. Welcome along to your weekly fixer Randomis Technology in life. And I’ve got a story to do with scammers for you.
Chris [00:00:33]:
We love our scammer stories.
Sam [00:00:34]:
This is real life. This happened to someone at my work in real time. I was there.
Chris [00:00:38]:
Oh, okay.
Sam [00:00:39]:
So they said, hey.
Chris [00:00:42]:
So they get this call at work.
Sam [00:00:45]:
Yeah, yep, yep.
Chris [00:00:47]:
It was a call or email, I’ll tell you. Oh, yeah.
Sam [00:00:49]:
So excited. So what they said was, they said to me, hey, I’ve. Oh, the scammers are a pain in the ass. I’ve just been notified by the bank that somebody’s trying to use my details and card in Christchurch for $350 purchase. So I’ve said, no, that’s not me. I’m in Hamilton, I’m working, It’s all good. And that was a phone call and I was like, oh, okay, cool. And then it was break time, like, I don’t know, 10 minutes later, it wasn’t very long and their phone rang and it was their bank again.
Sam [00:01:23]:
Anz. And they said. The conversation that I heard was, oh, yep. Hey, how’s it going? Oh, yep. No, sweet. Yep. Got told about the fraud before. Oh yeah, it was something doing Christchurch or something.
Sam [00:01:35]:
And the bank goes, did you get a phone call? Yeah, yeah. You’ve already spoken to your fraud team. That wasn’t us, that was the scammer. And the scammer had actually said, hey, we’re going to re. We’re going to send you a code and you need to tell us what your code is. And that was them resetting the password and login details to the Internet banking. So Anz has frozen everything and apparently it’s all good, but they picked up on it really fast.
Chris [00:02:01]:
Damn.
Sam [00:02:01]:
But that initial phone call about you, we’ve got a problem with some scammers was the scammers, so be mindful of that.
Chris [00:02:09]:
That’s pretty. Yeah, that’s pretty clear.
Sam [00:02:10]:
The question I said was they had to have got your details from somewhere. They’ve at least got your phone number. They knew what bank it was and I assume your email. I don’t know. Like, it seemed like a weird combo. Unless they’re just literally phishing.
Chris [00:02:26]:
But they didn’t have to have his email because if they had his name. And they went, oh no, they would have to have his email to log in, wouldn’t they? They’d have to have at least the phishing.
Sam [00:02:39]:
I assume so, yeah.
Chris [00:02:40]:
Yeah. I mean, unless they had a. Like, I know Kiwibank. Use. I use a number to login. It doesn’t use my email to log in.
Sam [00:02:49]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:02:49]:
But it has to have that. Which is more random or harder to get than my email address.
Sam [00:02:53]:
Maybe. Anyway, that’s the only interesting thing that’s happened, I think, in real life with me.
Chris [00:03:00]:
Cool. Okay.
Sam [00:03:02]:
I will say I did go to the graduation for the Te Wananga Aotearoa yesterday. Graduates for the Te Reo course.
Chris [00:03:10]:
Oh, yeah.
Sam [00:03:10]:
Sarah just graduated for level three and four, so that was good.
Chris [00:03:13]:
Oh, man. I’ve got a Tikanga course that I’m doing.
Sam [00:03:17]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:03:18]:
And I haven’t sent in my very first assignment yet, and I’m like, six months in. It’s really bad. It’s really, really bad.
Sam [00:03:25]:
Anyway, something for you to do when you got some free time.
Chris [00:03:28]:
Yeah. Who’s got free time? Who’s got free time? Though I did turn down the opportunity to produce a movie this week.
Sam [00:03:38]:
Oh. From someone good or someone not as good.
Chris [00:03:41]:
They’ll never hear this podcast, right?
Sam [00:03:44]:
I don’t know.
Chris [00:03:45]:
That’s why I was feeling it that way. Somebody that. No, I’ve already worked with. That project’s not complete.
Sam [00:03:53]:
Yeah, that’s who I thought it was a long time. Good.
Chris [00:03:55]:
And my feedback was this story.
Sam [00:03:58]:
This is the one that had to do some telephone booth.
Chris [00:04:00]:
Yeah, that was the one that I’m currently doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sam [00:04:04]:
Good.
Chris [00:04:04]:
The one I’m doing now, the one that was offered. He says, oh, check this out. You’ve already seen it. I’m like, oh, it doesn’t ring a bell. And then I read it and went, oh, yeah, I have read this before. I was like, do you want some honest feedback? Well, I gave him honest feedback. Whether I wanted or not.
Sam [00:04:22]:
That’s the way.
Chris [00:04:23]:
And I said, it’s a bit linear. It’s a bit. You need a bit more twists and turns to build up some tension. It’s not very. And they reply going, really? Everybody that I’ve had read it, didn’t see it coming.
Sam [00:04:38]:
I’m like, that’s the problem, though. Like, if you have. Yes, people. Yeah.
Chris [00:04:43]:
I’m like, no, no, no, no, no, no. Anyway. And I said, look, I’m a cripple these days. I’m not doing that.
Sam [00:04:50]:
So be tough work.
Chris [00:04:51]:
Tough work. Yeah, yeah, it would be. And I’ve got a lot of Stuff on at the moment, to be honest, but that’s cool. Hey, I want to ask you, was that app that you talked about in the past for the blind people called Be My Eyes?
Sam [00:05:05]:
Yeah, that’s the one.
Chris [00:05:06]:
Oh, yeah. So did you see that story? I saw it today. I don’t know when it happened, to be honest. A Mr. Clark Reynolds, known online as Mr.
Sam [00:05:15]:
Dot, okay.
Chris [00:05:17]:
Ran the Brighton Marathon untethered. So he’s blind. He has run the marathon before, but he’s done it tethered. Like they tied the blind person to somebody else. He did it untethered using AI glasses and the real time app Be My Eyes. And he just started and went, better call Be My Eyes. And he goes, and that first person stayed on the line for 30 minutes.
Sam [00:05:41]:
I was gonna say, how long do
Chris [00:05:41]:
they stay on the line? Yeah, that’s gone. I was thinking 30 minutes. So it didn’t say how many people he went through.
Sam [00:05:48]:
Oh, wow.
Chris [00:05:49]:
But he just did that. It did the whole, whole marathon. He goes, I have no. So I saw a video interview with him. I have no real data on this, but I think it’s a world first type thing, you know, like, doesn’t know if it was, but it was pretty cool. I was like, pretty sure that was the app that. That saves it.
Sam [00:06:07]:
I missed a phone call the other day from one blind person. I was like, damn it, he’s got to answer, like, instantly.
Chris [00:06:13]:
I don’t know if I trust running a marathon on it. Like, that’s a. That’s a leap of faith. But he did it and it works, so what the hell?
Sam [00:06:20]:
I’m going to assume not fully blind. Like seeing shapes maybe.
Chris [00:06:25]:
Yeah, I don’t know. I don’t know. Because, yeah, you’d think you’d just be tripping over all the time.
Sam [00:06:31]:
I was just thinking, how would you manage the battery on the glasses? Because they can’t last that long, can they?
Chris [00:06:37]:
I have no idea.
Sam [00:06:38]:
While it’s connected and streaming and doing stuff.
Chris [00:06:40]:
No idea. Yeah, because you’re right. It’s streaming video, so it wouldn’t be, I don’t know.
Sam [00:06:46]:
Interesting. That’s cool.
Chris [00:06:47]:
Anyway, so I just saw that today and I thought, oh, I’ll mention that
Sam [00:06:50]:
Air New Zealand, our national airline for anyone outside of New Zealand listening to this has.
Chris [00:06:55]:
If you didn’t guess by the name.
Sam [00:06:57]:
That’s right.
Chris [00:06:58]:
Hey,
Sam [00:07:01]:
you don’t know. If I didn’t say it was an airline, you wouldn’t know.
Chris [00:07:05]:
Now I want to say it’s our national airline. It’s partially owned by the government.
Sam [00:07:09]:
Yeah. They prop it up.
Chris [00:07:10]:
Yeah. No, no, because. No, that was a serious question because originally it was fully owned, then it got privatized and sold and then they bought back part of it.
Sam [00:07:20]:
Yeah, I think so.
Chris [00:07:21]:
I think. And this is going over decades.
Sam [00:07:24]:
Yeah. So anyway, they’re the first airline in the world to offer lie flat bunk beds for economy and premium economy TR travelers.
Chris [00:07:32]:
Oh, wow.
Sam [00:07:32]:
They’re gonna have six. They call them six bunk beds. They’re called Skynest sleep pods.
Chris [00:07:41]:
Because bunk beds is too hard.
Sam [00:07:43]:
Yeah, yeah. And it’s basically for the Auckland to New York route.
Chris [00:07:49]:
Yeah, because. And I was just gonna say it’s not too surprising that Air New Zealand is the first one in the world to do that because for us to go anywhere is a hell of a long haul. Really? You know, other than Australia and you know, some of the Pacific islands, for us to go anywhere, it’s a long, long.
Sam [00:08:08]:
We live in the middle of the nowhere on an island. Now, there are some rules, okay. And conditions around this thing.
Chris [00:08:15]:
You can’t share a bunk.
Sam [00:08:17]:
That’s correct. No snacks, strong smells, cuddling solo use only. So that’s cool. Now they’re going to cost $495 on New Zealand dollars. On top of your economy ticket price. You have to wear the special socks provided by the airline, fasten seat belts over blankets and follow etiquette guidelines. But how long can you book one for? 6 hours, 4 hours max. That’s it.
Sam [00:08:45]:
And you can only do it once per flight. So you’re paying about $500 for a four hour nap.
Chris [00:08:51]:
Oh, I mean. No, no, no. How much is it to go first class though? Well, not first class.
Sam [00:08:58]:
I don’t know. I don’t know.
Chris [00:09:00]:
A business. You know, one of the ones that are almost lie flat.
Sam [00:09:04]:
I don’t know it just because it
Chris [00:09:05]:
sounds to me like they’re just giving you an excuse to buy the upgrade. You know what I mean? Maybe because, you know, if you can lie semi flat for the whole flight, why would you pay 500 bucks to.
Sam [00:09:18]:
I see what you’ve done.
Chris [00:09:19]:
You know what I mean?
Sam [00:09:20]:
It’s that marketing employee. Maybe it seems a bit weird, but anyway, that’s happening.
Chris [00:09:26]:
Okay. So I want to. This tickled me so much that I have to talk about it. I know it might not tickle you so much. Right.
Sam [00:09:34]:
It’s been a while.
Chris [00:09:35]:
Do you know who Kash Patel is?
Sam [00:09:37]:
Head of the FBI?
Chris [00:09:38]:
Yep. FBI director.
Sam [00:09:40]:
And he was a streamer or something.
Chris [00:09:42]:
He was a podcaster either.
Sam [00:09:43]:
Oh, shit. Not a dodgy podcaster.
Chris [00:09:45]:
He was another dodgy podcaster. Right.
Sam [00:09:47]:
And he must have had a large crowd.
Chris [00:09:49]:
Eh, he had a big following. He was really big pro Trump, particularly after Trump lost the first election. He. He did a. A children’s book about how Trump should have won the election but lost it. Like a children’s book that’s a top
Sam [00:10:10]:
book for children and adults at a time.
Chris [00:10:12]:
He did some other really crazy dodgy crap. I can’t remember. But anyway, so he’s. He’s. He’s the director of the FBI and
Sam [00:10:21]:
his email got hacked.
Chris [00:10:22]:
No, no, let me tell the story. So the Atlantic magazine has just put a big story out and it’s decimated him. Like they crashed the guy because there’s been all sorts of things. So he. He got. We’ve talked about a couple of these things before he got swapped to look after his girlfriend. Oh, yeah. So that his girlfriend’s a country and western.
Chris [00:10:47]:
He’s flying around the country to her concerts. He famously flew to Milan to Italy for the Winter Olympics and was seen chugging beer in the changing rooms of the American hockey team when they won gold.
Sam [00:11:03]:
Good.
Chris [00:11:04]:
So, you know, because taxpayer funding, Learjet over there with all the security, that’s a good spender. Which is funny because when he was a podcaster, he hassled the guy that was the FBI director before, because he used the Learjet a couple of times and he should take it away from him. And now he’s doing exactly the same stuff.
Sam [00:11:26]:
So who do we have to hassle to get a better job?
Chris [00:11:28]:
So, yeah. Anyway, this story goes on, and it’s like he’s been accused of drinking way too much and being intoxicated at work, which for an FBI director is not ideal.
Sam [00:11:44]:
No, no.
Chris [00:11:46]:
And he has to be like, as FBI director, you need to be accessible or able to jump into the breach at any time.
Sam [00:11:55]:
Yeah, true.
Chris [00:11:55]:
So they run all the counterterrorism and all that sort of thing.
Sam [00:11:58]:
Yeah, yeah. Okay.
Chris [00:12:00]:
Incident, side note, two weeks before the Iran war, he fired all the Iranian specialist counterterrorist people. They’re all gone. They’ve just.
Sam [00:12:09]:
Okay, cool. That makes sense.
Chris [00:12:10]:
Two weeks before the war started.
Sam [00:12:12]:
So, you know, good ideas.
Chris [00:12:14]:
Obviously, nobody’s talking to each other. Anyway, so included in the story was they couldn’t wake him up, so they had to get SWAT breaching equipment to break down the door of his hotel to wake him up because they needed him for something and he was so intoxicated they couldn’t get. But.
Sam [00:12:32]:
There’s no but. At that point, you might as well let him sleep it off because he’s useless to you.
Chris [00:12:37]:
I know, but I think they might have thought he was having a medical emergency.
Sam [00:12:40]:
Oh, true. Yeah. Yeah.
Chris [00:12:42]:
But getting breaching equipment to break down the door and then. But this is the one that tickled me. This is the one that I see the best. He comes into work. I wanna say it was a Friday. I don’t know why I think that, but maybe it wasn’t. He comes into work and cannot log in, and he’s like, oh, my God, they fired me. Cause Trump’s.
Chris [00:13:05]:
It’s like, happens all the time where people don’t know they’re fired until they see the tweet. This happened last administration. And the.
Sam [00:13:13]:
Yeah. Or you can’t get in the building,
Chris [00:13:14]:
so he can’t log in. He goes, I’ve been fired. And he went around and moaned to, like, a dozen people like, I’ve been fired. I’ve been sacked. I’ve been sacked. And, like, everybody’s checking, oh, my God, it was an FBI director.
Sam [00:13:27]:
Nobody’s heard anything.
Chris [00:13:28]:
And, like, no, no, no. Do you know what happened?
Sam [00:13:31]:
Caps lock.
Chris [00:13:32]:
Caps lock.
Sam [00:13:32]:
Was it.
Chris [00:13:33]:
It was caps lock. He goes around moaning to all his interns and his colleagues that he’s been sacked and having a big, sad thing, and it was freaking caps lock. That’s hilarious. That cracked me up so much. Made me so happy. So anyway, he’s just lodged a $250 million defamation suit against the Atlantic, which I’ll tell you now, I would put money on. Will not. Go ahead.
Sam [00:14:03]:
No.
Chris [00:14:03]:
Because they have to do discovery, and they would have to question about all of these things under perjury rules or whatever. But anyway, I just saw this story just before I jumped in here, and the lawsuit that he’s put in is just filled with typos and errors, which is sort of funny because it’s like. It’s about journalist. Journalistic integrity. Accuracy.
Sam [00:14:29]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:14:29]:
Accuracy.
Sam [00:14:30]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:14:30]:
You can’t even spell it. Although they’re saying, well, if it’s just a few typos, then I think her case is pretty good. But anyway, so that just cracked me up, particularly the caps lock. They just. How. How insecure are you? Like, seriously?
Sam [00:14:44]:
I don’t know. But he. Maybe he’s doing this as well. Somebody sent a Bluetooth tracker hidden in a postcard to a Dutch warship. 500 million. $500 million. I guess Dutch air defense frigate and this Bluetooth tracker. So it doesn’t.
Sam [00:15:02]:
Can’t do anything, but it connects to phones Sort of like what the Apple one’s doing that. And for 24 hours, BAS thing was potentially broadcasting exactly where the ship was because, like, this real basic, simple technology is letting a lot of places down. What was the warship? I think it was a French one. They were using Strava, so that tracks where you run. So they all had smart watches.
Chris [00:15:28]:
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sam [00:15:29]:
And they were running around on the loops, but it was going, this is where they are.
Chris [00:15:33]:
Yep, yep. Yeah, I. I heard that about. I thought it was an American. Maybe both thing. Yeah. I think this is a different one because it was a particular battalion and they had been shipped to another country.
Sam [00:15:46]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:15:47]:
You know, getting ready. And they were all using that app because I’d never heard of it before, and because they were in the desert somewhere and there’s nothing else.
Sam [00:15:56]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:15:56]:
So they’re all running.
Sam [00:15:57]:
Yeah, that one.
Chris [00:15:58]:
Yeah. And. Yeah. And people going, oh, so the 82nd Airborne. It wasn’t them. But whatever it was, they’re there. Yeah, yeah.
Sam [00:16:04]:
Bit of social engineering. Hey, the Onion is real close to buy Infowars, and it’s not even a joke.
Chris [00:16:11]:
Well, they were trying to for ages, so it was on and off again. I actually gave up. I thought they’d given up on it.
Sam [00:16:18]:
Yeah. And the Sandy Hook families want the sale to go through.
Chris [00:16:21]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:16:22]:
They’ve agreed to pay $81,000 per month to license the domain name and brand name, and it would allow them to change it into their satirical platform on there. But, yeah, crazy as. But good on them. I don’t know who runs it in that. Cause. Jones. Alex Jones, the crazy owner of it before, he owes almost $1.3 billion in judgments to Sandy Hook families for defamation, harassment.
Chris [00:16:51]:
Yeah, yeah. So, and that’s the key thing. That money isn’t going to Alex Jones. Cause then you’d be like, screw that guy. That money’s going to those families, which is the key. That’s the good part of it. So it’s a good news story.
Sam [00:17:04]:
Honestly, I’ve got a story, but I don’t if it’s good. Burglary suspects open fire on a truck after mistaking a Michael Myers mannequin for a passenger in New Orleans. So these guy. This guy was sick of people trying to steal his truck. So he had a mannequin in there with the Michael Myers Halloween mask on.
Chris [00:17:25]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:17:26]:
And these guys, unknown identities, unknown suspects, fired over 30 rounds into this truck. 20 of them struck it. Yeah.
Chris [00:17:37]:
Stationary.
Sam [00:17:38]:
Yeah. Well, no. They were breaking into vehicles down the street. They got spooked, and they thought someone was in the car, so they just unloaded until this car.
Chris [00:17:45]:
Jeez.
Sam [00:17:46]:
Like in the middle of the night. So all these people woke up and all they could hear was gunfire. That’s a bit of overkill. But anyway, America, I know that’s.
Chris [00:17:56]:
That’s crazy. That just reminded me. No, I can’t remember what it was now.
Sam [00:18:00]:
Kickstarter drop kick. Do you want some?
Chris [00:18:02]:
Yeah, go for it.
Sam [00:18:03]:
What do you think an X lean TR1 is? If you were to guess, I’m gonna
Chris [00:18:10]:
say like the Total Gym from Chuck Morris. Now that Chuck Norris isn’t around. It’s a gym equipment type thing.
Sam [00:18:18]:
It’s the world’s first dual form floor washing robot.
Chris [00:18:22]:
Oh, okay.
Sam [00:18:24]:
So it looks like a robot vacuum cleaner. Like a proper one. Not your cheap ass. $10 nasty thing. Still brings me joy that. But when you want to use it yourself to clean up a spill, it has a handle that attaches to the top of it and you can sort of use it like a normal vacuum cleaner. All right, that’s where it comes in dual action. Now they want.
Sam [00:18:49]:
This thing is going to cost you about. This is New Zealand dollars. 1600 dollars to buy one of these.
Chris [00:18:54]:
What’s a normal vac Robovac cost a real night? Three bucks. 300 bucks or something like that?
Sam [00:19:01]:
No, like a real nice One is probably 1800 to two grand.
Chris [00:19:05]:
Oh, wow.
Sam [00:19:06]:
But that’ll have camera on it and map your floor and do everything. So two to three grand? Yeah.
Chris [00:19:11]:
Jesus. Okay. All right, so 1600 is pretty good.
Sam [00:19:14]:
It’s pretty good. Now they want to raise $169,000 to get to their goal.
Chris [00:19:22]:
Okay, that’s probably a realistic number to manufacture something. So. Okay.
Sam [00:19:28]:
And this has only been going for two days, this Kickstarter. So your guess on how much has been pledged to get this thing.
Chris [00:19:36]:
Okay, and so just to recap, 1800 bucks. It’s like, just for like linoleum floors or whatever. So it won’t work on a cap, but it’s just for. What do you call it?
Sam [00:19:48]:
Great question.
Chris [00:19:50]:
Shiny floors or whatever. You know what I mean? Tiles and floors,
Sam [00:19:56]:
handle robot form on the spot cleaning. It does look like it’s only for hard floors.
Chris [00:20:03]:
Yeah, hard floors. That’s a better word.
Sam [00:20:05]:
Not showing carpet at all.
Chris [00:20:07]:
Yeah. Okay, so that cuts it down a bit. 1800 bucks is pretty good. Yeah. I reckon they’re after 169,000. It’s for two days. I’m going to say they’re at 100,000 already.
Sam [00:20:19]:
$900,000.
Chris [00:20:21]:
Holy crap.
Sam [00:20:24]:
What are we doing with our lives? We need to make a fake Kickstarter.
Chris [00:20:29]:
If you’ve got disappear. And this. This podcast is coming from you to you from Mexico now, it’s not a Mexico.
Sam [00:20:39]:
A for effort, D for execution. If you’ve got an idea for a Kickstarter project that you think we could. Honestly, we could just make. Okay, we’re probably going to put some way more.
Chris [00:20:51]:
Too much.
Sam [00:20:51]:
I’m probably going to put too much time into this. I don’t need another project. But maybe we could do this.
Chris [00:20:57]:
Yeah, we have to. We definitely should be crowdsourcing from our listeners the idea that we should go ahead with because it worked with that guy with the. What was it?
Sam [00:21:07]:
The pine.
Chris [00:21:08]:
The. The tree.
Sam [00:21:09]:
Sorry, Tree.
Chris [00:21:10]:
Tree flavored juice.
Sam [00:21:11]:
But he had a. He had a following on YouTube. Yeah, we did.
Chris [00:21:14]:
We have a following on podcast, something like that.
Sam [00:21:20]:
Okay, I’ve got this other one. You can’t get this shipped to New Zealand, I don’t think, but this is one of those ones where people were giving it a go. Red walnut butter. Once a year, harvest stone ground. So it’s walnuts that are very special in red. You can only get them a certain time of the year from a certain place, like grinding them up, making small batches of butter, of nut butter. Nut butter supposedly really good for you. When you taste it, it’s amazing.
Sam [00:21:49]:
I read a bit of this campaign because they really sell it well. Yeah, maybe, yeah. Ever tasted red walnut butter? Made the artisanal way for slow mornings? Pause for a moment. This isn’t the kind of spread you grab and forget about. One spoon and it kind of takes you somewhere else. A quiet kitchen, warm bread on the table, light coming through the window, and a morning that doesn’t feel rushed. The texture is soft, steady, gently nutty. We’re all about a bit of gently nutty.
Sam [00:22:21]:
Smooth without grit, without sharp edges. It melts slowly the way real things do. And then it goes on about it and it says, look, to be honest, if nuts, most nut butters are made of scale, blah, blah, blah. And you know, we really think that you should have it now. There’s 28 days to go on this thing. So about halfway through, probably, I’m gonna say probably now, their goal. Hang on. It’s given to me, both US and American, for each figure.
Sam [00:22:48]:
So one jar of this is about 40 New Zealand dollars.
Chris [00:22:52]:
Holy crap.
Sam [00:22:53]:
Now it’s early batch special beer. Among the first to try this.
Chris [00:22:56]:
There has to be a limit to it too, though, right?
Sam [00:22:59]:
Yeah, well, that’s Right. They’ve only got so many.
Chris [00:23:01]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:23:02]:
So they want to raise four and a half thousand dollars US to process this nut butter.
Chris [00:23:09]:
So that’s what, 45 jars? No, 15 jars.
Sam [00:23:14]:
Sorry. They want 7,620 New Zealand dollars. That’s what they want. Oh yeah, sorry. I’m doing New Zealand dollars now. Oh yeah, it’s changed now. Now realizes where I am. They need $7653 to get the special nut butter to the people that back it for $40 a jar.
Chris [00:23:33]:
Okay, the.
Sam [00:23:34]:
Halfway through. How much have they raised?
Chris [00:23:36]:
$12,000.
Sam [00:23:38]:
277.
Chris [00:23:39]:
$277 or 277,000 $277. Oh, really? Yeah.
Sam [00:23:46]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:23:46]:
So a fail.
Sam [00:23:48]:
Yeah, it’s not a big seller. I’ve never heard of it before. Sarah wouldn’t be able to eat this. She’s allergic to walnuts. So. Ah, I don’t know, I just, I decided to find one that didn’t have a crazy backing for you.
Chris [00:24:01]:
Oh, good. Made me feel stupid. That’s cool.
Sam [00:24:07]:
You’ve got here. The Meta employees can’t escape Zuck.
Chris [00:24:10]:
Did I talk about that last week or not? I couldn’t remember which one.
Sam [00:24:13]:
Cause there’s a whole bunch of stuff happening. So I’ve got a story about.
Chris [00:24:16]:
This was where they built an AI version of Zuckerberg to interact with employees, which I just thought was the dumbest thing ever.
Sam [00:24:24]:
No, we did that because the story. Yeah, we’ve done that because I remember doing the little clip for it. We’ve talked about that.
Chris [00:24:29]:
I thought. I wasn’t sure if we had.
Sam [00:24:31]:
But no, no, but there’s another thing that’s happened because, you know, why not just go a bit more batshit? Mark Zuckerberg, he’s introduced a mandatory program to train AI on how workers use computers. So he wants to track all their movements with the mouse and all their keyboard shortcuts and how they type. And they’re not happy about it because
Chris [00:24:56]:
it’s going to replace them.
Sam [00:24:59]:
I’m assuming that’s the long term thing that they want to do. I don’t know. Like that they get you though, isn’t it? Like if you’re there and you’ve got really good conditions, really good pay, do you just milk it for all it’s worth? Depends on how you feel about it, I guess.
Chris [00:25:13]:
Well, no, you milk it for what it’s worth and you go, okay, well, I lose my job, but I’ve got shares and I’ve got a bunch stashed away. I’ll go down to the beach in Mexico and it’s going to cost me bugger all to live here. Brilliant. Be much happier. I mean, that’s how I’d look at it personally.
Sam [00:25:32]:
This is super quick and not going to relate well to a podcast, but I’ll show you. Did you see that Chinese streamer that lost all the fans?
Chris [00:25:39]:
No.
Sam [00:25:40]:
140,000 subscribers in a minute. Because they’re.
Chris [00:25:44]:
They. They unsubscribed.
Sam [00:25:46]:
Yeah, because the facial. I know Carl’s played with this. I think you have as well. The thing, the. You know that. Oh, have you seen that?
Chris [00:25:55]:
No.
Sam [00:25:56]:
So you can get tools now that replace your face fully live with AI. So it makes you look average, your average as looking person into a beautiful woman. There’s guys that are doing this now online and this person here just glitched out and everybody lost their mind and unsubscribed.
Chris [00:26:15]:
Oh, right. Because normally they look like the paler, cuter looking version and not the other version.
Sam [00:26:23]:
Yeah, exactly.
Chris [00:26:25]:
Oh, that’s hilarious. I will actually, that just reminds me. So I ended up chatting somebody from school because when you’re on school and I’m on school all the time now, I met some chick, Crystal, she’s in Hollywood. And she goes, I do remote photo shoots all the time. That’s my business. I do remote photo shoots.
Sam [00:26:45]:
Okay, tell me more.
Chris [00:26:47]:
She goes, you just put your chin up like that. Now turn your chin and do this and pose like this. So she went click, click, click. And. Cause normally she does it through people’s phones because she has an app to do it through a phone.
Sam [00:26:58]:
Okay, yeah, yeah.
Chris [00:26:59]:
But because we just happen to be chatting on thing. I got a decent camera and then she sent me these shots which are obviously aied up from what it was, so.
Sam [00:27:10]:
And it’s still just a headshot, though.
Chris [00:27:13]:
It was still just a headshot because literally that’s all I did. I was sitting down at the computer and then. That’s all right. And then I happened to be in this other school thing, which is called Modern Marketing, and it uses AI for marketing. I said, put in a headshot and we’ll make a video out of it. So I just use the same headshot which the one out of she gave me four and a couple of like, that doesn’t even look like me. So I put one of the ones that look most like me.
Sam [00:27:45]:
Yeah, okay.
Chris [00:27:45]:
Which to be fair, you know, it was a couple of shots. So the AI is not gonna be that good.
Sam [00:27:50]:
No.
Chris [00:27:50]:
And I put it in and they made this video and of course everybody else. I don’t know anybody else in this video. So as far as I know, they’re all perfectly accurate. But then there’s me. So maybe I should.
Sam [00:28:03]:
Where’s this video? Why am I hearing about this now?
Chris [00:28:06]:
Well. Cause I only saw it this morning, so maybe I’m going to have to clip it. I’ll clip my piece out.
Sam [00:28:11]:
Yeah, good.
Chris [00:28:12]:
And you guys can. Yeah, I’ll do something with it. But I forgot all about it because I looked and went, oh, that’s pretty hideous. That’s pretty bad. And of course it used AI voice because it wasn’t my voice. I wrote something so it was my words. Like typed it. And they use.
Chris [00:28:29]:
And because she did say it doesn’t get your accent. It doesn’t get accents. It’s all American accents.
Sam [00:28:34]:
But it’s like.
Chris [00:28:35]:
It’s not too bad. Far off my voice, I think. Although I might have been just reacting because they were definitely my words.
Sam [00:28:43]:
You know what I mean?
Chris [00:28:44]:
So anyway. But yeah, the. The face just made me feel a bit creepy. It’s just so not right. Quite right.
Sam [00:28:51]:
Good. Something. Something to give nightmares to whoever watches it. That’s what we’re all about here at the Christmas Sam podcast.
Chris [00:28:58]:
Yeah. Yeah.
Sam [00:28:59]:
And that actually brings us to the end of it.
Chris [00:29:01]:
That’s it.
Sam [00:29:02]:
Tcast.com is our website. Thechristsampodcast.com go to either of them. They take you to the same place. Check it out. We’ve got lots of show notes. We’ve got 600th episode coming up soon that we keep forgetting to talk about. We’ll do something about that and we will have. Are we going to get listener call ins or listener questions?
Chris [00:29:21]:
Yeah, we’ll get some. Some of that. So start thinking about any questions you have for us. Anything that you think would embarrass the hell out of either one of us. You want to ask those questions. This is always a good. It’s always good.
Sam [00:29:36]:
And.
Chris [00:29:37]:
Yeah. And then anything you think we should do.
Sam [00:29:41]:
Yeah, yeah.
Chris [00:29:42]:
Particularly any awards you think we should.
Sam [00:29:44]:
Yeah. We don’t want to travel anywhere, pay anything or do anything that much extra for reasons good. Until next time. I’m Sam.
Chris [00:29:55]:
I’m Chris.
Sam [00:29:56]:
See ya. Bye.
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