Summary
From butter chicken at the night market to robots beating humans at table tennis, plus sperm racing world championships, AI in the FBI, and a bizarre school fight club scandal.
Links
Tenants to keep paying rent after drug dealer goes to jail
Steven Segal being a dick again
Sony makes expert table tennis robot
2026 Sperm racing championship
Teacher arrested over fight club
FBI Using all of the AI
Kickstart or Dropkick – The World Cheese Hub
Kickstart or Dropkick – Inkwon Tag
Show Transcript
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Intro [00:00:07]:
Sam Podcast. Pull up a bar stool and join us for a random conversation guaranteed to make you think, earn your money back.
Sam [00:00:21]:
Hello and welcome to episode 579 of the Chris and Sam Podcast.
Chris [00:00:25]:
I’m Chris.
Sam [00:00:26]:
And I’m Sam. Welcome along to your weekly fix of random technology and life. And we just had a technical glitch where we. We just found a random SD card that Chris had and we put it into the machine and we think it’s working.
Sam [00:00:39]:
We hope it’s working. If you hear this, the last one didn’t work.
Sam [00:00:42]:
Oh, the last one was giving me issues for no reason. But if you hear this, well done. We have made it. And things are looking good for the Chris and Sam podcast.
Chris [00:00:51]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:00:52]:
We’re on the March to episode 600. We’ve only got less than half a year to get there. We should reach it by October by my calculations. And it’s going to be exciting because we’ve got some stuff planned.
Chris [00:01:04]:
Yeah, we got some good stuff planned. I’m pretty excited about it, so we will keep that quiet.
Sam [00:01:09]:
You’re going to. You’re going to be. You’re going to have plenty of time soon to be working on this.
Chris [00:01:15]:
Yeah, we’ll see how.
Sam [00:01:16]:
See how you go. What else has been happening.
Chris [00:01:18]:
Okay, so I’ve had a very busy week this week.
Sam [00:01:22]:
Yep, busy’s good.
Chris [00:01:23]:
I’ve been out of the house a couple of times is what I mean by busy.
Sam [00:01:27]:
Yeah, I mean, that is busy time for you.
Chris [00:01:29]:
Yeah. Yesterday I went to Haha Hamilton.
Sam [00:01:32]:
Oh, okay.
Chris [00:01:33]:
In ages. Because a friend of mine. Well, I don’t think I can really call her a friend. An acquaintance of mine.
Sam [00:01:39]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:01:40]:
Was. Was performing there. So I was like, oh, yeah, I’ll go and support. Was this in Navara Lounge at Navarro Lounge? Yep, still going there. It’s got another month or two there.
Sam [00:01:50]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:01:51]:
Yeah. So she. She’s in my compelling communicators community.
Sam [00:01:55]:
Good.
Chris [00:01:55]:
She is at the Improv.
Sam [00:01:59]:
Okay. Lots of crossover.
Chris [00:02:01]:
And so I went along to. To see her in this. And she’s got a. A show coming up called Sex, Marriage and Other Disasters.
Sam [00:02:08]:
Yep.
Chris [00:02:10]:
She’s known as the Singing Hobbit.
Sam [00:02:12]:
Okay.
Chris [00:02:12]:
She is a whole 4 foot 10 inches tall.
Sam [00:02:16]:
Oh, wow. Okay.
Chris [00:02:18]:
And. And she sings. So the end of that, she sang this because it was like an open mic. She was trying some new material and she sang. She’s pretty good, actually. I really impressed. So I might have to organize to get a ticket to go to this thing in June, July, Whenever it is
Sam [00:02:35]:
July 18th and 21st of July, Navarro Lounge, 7:30pm early bird tickets are $10. Go check them out on Humanitax. And it’s called Sex, Marriage and Other Disasters. One Diva Too Many Red Flags and a Fish.
Chris [00:02:50]:
Yeah, so, yeah, so that was really cool. So it was good going out for that. It’s funny too, though. So she was really good. The MC was really good. There were a couple other guys that were really good. They had Sam Barnes there. You may have come across them.
Sam [00:03:05]:
May have. But I can’t place them in my head.
Chris [00:03:06]:
He is like. Every time I see him, I know that’s why they use him. Every time I see him, I go, I could do this, I could do this.
Sam [00:03:14]:
Oh, is he the drunk guy? The guy that was talking about drugs at time? No, no.
Chris [00:03:18]:
He’s the guy that talks about religion, but it comes across more as a lecture than comedy.
Sam [00:03:26]:
Okay.
Chris [00:03:26]:
And then he starts laughing at his own jokes that nobody else finds funny. It’s so bad. And his ex wife was sitting. So I was sitting next to him unbeknownst that it was him.
Sam [00:03:35]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:03:36]:
You know, when I first sat down and his ex wife was sitting next to him.
Sam [00:03:39]:
Yeah, yeah.
Chris [00:03:41]:
As you do. So I was looking at her and she was looking at me rolling her eyes while he was doing. I’m like, I can see why he’s your ex. And why would he be sitting next to his ex? You’re asking at the.
Sam [00:03:53]:
I don’t know.
Chris [00:03:54]:
And why would I know this? Because their daughter performed earlier as well. She was really funny and she had a stroke when she was 15 years old.
Sam [00:04:04]:
Oh, that’s not good.
Chris [00:04:06]:
And she can’t use her hand. One hand and all that. So she’s. Yeah. I don’t know how old she is now. I would guess like 22, 23, something like that. But yeah, she was really funny. So thank God she didn’t get his humor genes.
Sam [00:04:20]:
That’s good.
Chris [00:04:22]:
But yeah, yeah. No. So it was a good night. It was a good night.
Sam [00:04:25]:
Perfect.
Chris [00:04:25]:
And then today.
Sam [00:04:27]:
Yep.
Chris [00:04:28]:
I went to awa. Awa, the river. Awa, which stands for Arthritis Without Activity. Activity without.
Sam [00:04:37]:
You don’t even know what it stands for. You got a booklet in front of.
Chris [00:04:40]:
You got a booklet. Yeah. Activity Without Arthritis. And I was, surprise, surprise, the youngest person there. Most of them were in their 80s. One person. And we’re talking. There was a lot of people.
Chris [00:04:55]:
There was about 60 people, 50 people.
Sam [00:04:58]:
Oh, wow.
Chris [00:04:59]:
So it’s going to be two groups going forward. So. But it was all for the information. They did some slides and Stuff And I mean one guy came over to me, he was like the next youngest person, I think.
Sam [00:05:10]:
Yep, yep.
Chris [00:05:11]:
He just retired.
Sam [00:05:12]:
Good.
Chris [00:05:14]:
And he looked, he looked, he looked a hell of a lot fitter than me. Everybody looked fitter than me.
Sam [00:05:20]:
It’s a lot more mobility. You mean when you say fitter.
Chris [00:05:23]:
Yes. They were all. I was one of the worst mobility people.
Sam [00:05:29]:
Oh, wow.
Chris [00:05:30]:
The youngest. So that was highly depressing.
Sam [00:05:34]:
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, you can’t do much about it.
Chris [00:05:38]:
Then I had to walk ages to the next bus stop because they had a roadworks. Roadworks. And the buses disappeared. So I was like, God damn it. Hobble, hobble, hobble, hobble.
Sam [00:05:49]:
So a big excursion then for you?
Chris [00:05:51]:
Yes. Anyway, that’s me. What have you done that’s new this week?
Sam [00:05:57]:
Nothing.
Chris [00:05:57]:
Work. Just work.
Sam [00:05:59]:
Oh, since last time I saw you though. Went to the night market at the uni last Friday.
Chris [00:06:05]:
Oh yeah.
Sam [00:06:05]:
For the first time. Lots of food trucks. Such a great idea because you’ve got a built in customer base of poor students.
Chris [00:06:12]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:06:13]:
Like even if it’s the worst night in the world and nobody drives there, there’s poor students lurking around. It’s great.
Chris [00:06:20]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:06:20]:
Got this butter chicken. There was a dude there working all by himself, working like a madman. And he did butter chicken. Everything so normal. Butter chicken with rice, butter chicken burger, butter chicken on loaded fries. And there was a butter chicken wrap. Whatever you wanted. He’d put butter chicken on it or in it.
Sam [00:06:37]:
Right. And the thing.
Chris [00:06:39]:
Button Chicken man.
Sam [00:06:40]:
No, he had no sign. That’s the thing. I don’t know what he was called. I’d look at the EFTPOS receipt. Made no sense. Anyway, the cool thing he had, which looked like some sort of Frankenstein contraption was at the front. He had a self order kiosk that was made out of a. An actual.
Sam [00:06:58]:
It was an actual kiosk. It wasn’t. But it was on a like homemade stand. An EFTPOS machine so you could order and pay without even interacting with the dude while he just kept cooking. I thought this is great. And the food was phenomenal.
Chris [00:07:11]:
Oh really?
Sam [00:07:11]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:07:11]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:07:11]:
I’ll eat that nice food again.
Chris [00:07:13]:
Bearing the lead there. That sounds good.
Sam [00:07:15]:
Yeah, yeah. So anyway, that was pretty cool. And then just work for the last.
Chris [00:07:20]:
Whatever.
Sam [00:07:20]:
Forever. It feels like forever. So that’s what’s been happening. Sony has made an expert robot and it can beat humans. That’s the best thing in the world. Exactly. Table tennis.
Chris [00:07:33]:
Oh yes. I think I saw the. I think I saw the. An image of that. Like a little video clip of that
Sam [00:07:41]:
does have to have nine camera eyes positioned around the court.
Chris [00:07:45]:
It’s pretty monty. You look. You’re not taking that anywhere.
Sam [00:07:50]:
No, you’re not, you’re not. But it can beat professional athletes. And the real good thing about this is they can’t program it by hand. It has to learn.
Chris [00:07:57]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:07:58]:
And it’s learned over time. And yeah. They said it’s the first time a robot’s actually achieved human expert level play in a commonly played competitive sport. In the physical world.
Chris [00:08:11]:
Yeah, physical.
Sam [00:08:12]:
Because they’re still terrible at running. They just spill over and stuff. I love seeing those videos because there’s that.
Chris [00:08:18]:
What is it? Is a marathon in Japan somewhere or it might be South Korea. Actually, I think it was Korea.
Sam [00:08:24]:
They got all the robots.
Chris [00:08:25]:
Asian.
Sam [00:08:25]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:08:25]:
And it’s just robots.
Sam [00:08:26]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:08:27]:
Yeah. And last year 10, only 10 made it. And this year, I think out of a hundred or so, 45, 47, we’re getting up there. And the one that made it beat the world record of a person.
Sam [00:08:42]:
Oh, wow.
Chris [00:08:43]:
By three minutes or something like that.
Sam [00:08:45]:
But is that non. Do they have to hot swap their batteries? What do they do?
Chris [00:08:48]:
No, no. And that’s one of the reasons most of them fail.
Sam [00:08:51]:
Yes.
Chris [00:08:52]:
Is a battery thing.
Sam [00:08:53]:
They just die.
Chris [00:08:53]:
This, this one that won was just a running machine. It was red, painted red. So obviously that helped.
Sam [00:09:01]:
That’s fine.
Chris [00:09:02]:
The guys had to run really close behind it.
Sam [00:09:05]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:09:06]:
I forget why they were. They were out of. Out of shape, sweaty, geeky guys and
Sam [00:09:13]:
they were like, oh, man, I wish I just did that. Table tennis robot.
Chris [00:09:16]:
Yeah. And I forget what that I did. They did say why they had to follow. It wasn’t like they were controlling it, but they were. They were there in case something went wrong or something. But yeah, so that was. That was funny.
Sam [00:09:28]:
One of your favourite people, Kash Patel from the FBI, Director, who looks like he stoned out of his brain the whole time, always. He has started talking about how much he loves artificial intelligence. Have you seen that?
Chris [00:09:41]:
No.
Sam [00:09:42]:
He’s come out, I think earlier today. We’re using it everywhere, AI everywhere in the FBI. Now it stopped a school massacre apparently, because we got a tip off and we were able to triage it with artificial intelligence. He said if we just had humans looking at stuff, it would take them forever. But we’ve got every major tech company in the world is now embedded in the FBI, rebuilding the Internet capabilities, classified systems and the ability to work in the counterterrorism program. He goes, what’s the point of collecting terabytes of data if we can’t sift through it. He’s loving it.
Chris [00:10:18]:
You can’t trust this guy. So you do realize, I don’t know if you got this counterterrorism thing. He fired all the Iranian.
Sam [00:10:28]:
Yeah, I know. You told me this last time.
Chris [00:10:32]:
Terrorist experts, the week before they started a war with Iran. Like artificial intelligence. Do you know why he’s keen? Cause he doesn’t have any actual intelligence, and he needs whatever he can.
Sam [00:10:46]:
He reckons they’re triaging tips when they come in. And I was like, that sort of makes sense to me.
Chris [00:10:51]:
Yeah, yeah, I get it. I get it. And yeah, that’s true.
Sam [00:10:55]:
And it will probably hopefully show the humans. Hey, here’s a slight pattern here. Maybe this is something you should look into.
Chris [00:11:01]:
Yeah. And that’s what they’re good at. The artificial stuff is pattern recognition. But I mean, you would have thought the NSA and things like that be all over that crap for ages because they dealing with ridiculous amounts of data.
Sam [00:11:14]:
They probably are. This is just. He probably just learned about it from FBI.
Chris [00:11:17]:
I don’t know.
Sam [00:11:18]:
He woke up.
Chris [00:11:19]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:11:19]:
He logged into his computer.
Chris [00:11:20]:
They’ve been doing it the whole time. He’s just found out about it.
Sam [00:11:22]:
Wow. He couldn’t log into his computer for a little bit. Unrelated.
Chris [00:11:26]:
Yeah, true.
Sam [00:11:27]:
So, you know, this.
Chris [00:11:28]:
This is a. A US law thing, which sort of got me. I went for the load, and I just don’t know what to think about it. So this Milwaukee. This is Milwaukee in the U.S. yeah. And the landlord is being arrested because he’s a drug dealer. Okay.
Sam [00:11:51]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:11:52]:
But he’s part of his gig. Part of his whole thing was he bought all these tenement blogs and was renting it out to people. So he’s a slum lord, effectively. But then he used some of his tenants to push drugs.
Sam [00:12:10]:
Okay.
Chris [00:12:10]:
It was the whole point.
Sam [00:12:11]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:12:13]:
So they caught him and put him in jail.
Sam [00:12:15]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:12:16]:
But there’s been a controversy in the law. And they’re like, we can’t stop the tenants from paying rent. They’re not allowed to stop paying rent. They must pay rent. But then it’s going to the drug lord who’s sitting in the. In prison.
Sam [00:12:31]:
Oh, I thought they would have. Okay.
Chris [00:12:33]:
Yeah. And so they’ve sort of said, okay, well, what.
Sam [00:12:38]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:12:38]:
And he’s the drug lord because, you know, it’s a white guy. What a surprise.
Sam [00:12:45]:
Crazy eyes. Stare at the camera with your crazy eyes.
Chris [00:12:47]:
He that. So what they’re making them do is do a major Major receipt for every single thing they pay for.
Sam [00:12:55]:
Okay.
Chris [00:12:56]:
So I don’t know what, how it’s gonna go, but it was quite interesting because it’s like you congratulation. Obligated to pay rent but we don’t really want the rent going to this dude.
Sam [00:13:09]:
I thought they would have seized his assets.
Chris [00:13:11]:
Yeah. I don’t know.
Sam [00:13:12]:
And then sold them off and then carried on. So not how. I don’t know. Uber’s got a new plan. Basically they’ve. They’re using their cars and data to then I assume build up a database and then on sell it to autonomous vehicle makers because they’ve got so many people, so so much people driving around. Makes sense. You’ve got the app that’s tracking everything you do, showing you traffic patterns and where you need to go and stuff.
Sam [00:13:41]:
So
Chris [00:13:43]:
that to me was always their play was they weren’t going to make the autonomous vehicles. They were going to use their platform market reach to get people in and out of those vehicles. You know what I mean?
Sam [00:13:58]:
Well, yeah, because I don’t really know if they’re going down the autonomous vehicle route. So I think it says this is a new plan because they’re going to sell it to other companies.
Chris [00:14:07]:
Yeah, that’s which.
Sam [00:14:08]:
Yeah. Which makes sense.
Chris [00:14:08]:
They’re gonna either white label what they’ve got for these autonomous companies or they’re gonna go in partnership with them. So. Because don’t they do Flamingo in. In different areas is still. Is done by Uber as well.
Sam [00:14:23]:
I don’t know. I think you sent me a link about this and I don’t, I, I don’t think we’ve spoken about it on the podcast, but there’s a hundred thousand dollar prize up for the sperm racing competitive racing for the 2026 Sperm Racing World Cup. Now they’re getting 128 samples from different countries. There’s gotta be a Kiwi in here, eh, do you think?
Chris [00:14:49]:
Yeah, you’d think so.
Sam [00:14:51]:
The winner whose fastest sperm cell crosses the finish line first. $100,000 in prize money not to be sneezed at, you know. No, they’ve been these applicants.
Chris [00:15:01]:
So literally, just so you know, literally they’ve made a racetrack for these sperm and it’s got cameras and everything so you can race the sperm. See the sperm racing on this racetrack to the egg.
Sam [00:15:15]:
Yeah. So they’ve had over 10,000 applicants. They’re picking 128 people. It’s an undisclosed location currently. Computer custom computer vision system will track every cell converting it into data into a 3D render for the audience. A bracket format is. Format is used so they group by motility before entering a knockout style bracket. And they’re going to stream it online with high resolution cameras, live leaderboards and biometric data displays.
Sam [00:15:45]:
They’ve done this before and I think it was a bit smaller last year, but now you know, this could be sponsored by Red Bull. Let’s be, let’s be honest.
Chris [00:15:54]:
Well, so it was originally, as I understand it from reading about it before and this was a while back, it was originally about, oh, if we could make a race for it, then people would be more health conscious and would help their fertility because you can actually help your fertility a lot by doing some exercise, eating right. Da da da da da. So they’re like, well if we hit a hundred thousand grand, $100,000 rather up as a prize, people have got that incentive to look after themselves.
Sam [00:16:30]:
So the stated goal is awareness, not research output. It’s not a peer reviewed scientific study. So they’re not going to publish any research. It remains to be seen whether competition format will advance the understanding or not.
Chris [00:16:45]:
Do you think people will be betting on them?
Sam [00:16:47]:
They’re betting on anything and everything. So they’re gonna do this. They just need a big sponsor. Monster energy drink. You come on in here.
Chris [00:16:55]:
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sam [00:16:56]:
Who knows? This could be the next biggest thing.
Chris [00:17:00]:
God damn it.
Sam [00:17:02]:
You know what would be even better?
Chris [00:17:05]:
I don’t wanna think what you’re about to say.
Sam [00:17:07]:
The hundred, you get $100,000 and then they grow a child from your winning sperm.
Chris [00:17:14]:
Well, I’m like, oh, but when the winning sperm gets that egg, is it like that’s now a fetus?
Sam [00:17:23]:
Probably.
Chris [00:17:25]:
That’s why it’s in an undisclosed location.
Sam [00:17:28]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:17:30]:
Okay, so this is from Fox News. So who knows, maybe it’s not that accurate. Surprising study finds healthy food, fruit, vegetable diet may increase risk of lung cancer in younger people.
Sam [00:17:45]:
No sounds made up.
Chris [00:17:48]:
So yeah, fruits, vegetables and whole grains have been linked to lung cancer among the younger non smoking adults.
Sam [00:17:56]:
What a weird thing to link 50,
Chris [00:17:58]:
age 50 and younger. And women younger than 50, non smoking had higher incidence of lung cancer than men. So women have lung cancer more often than men in that age range. So it sounds pretty. Yeah, I agree it sounds a bit dodgy, but it was. Research study was led by researchers from University of Southern California Norris Comprehensive Cancer center and focused on that age group.
Sam [00:18:27]:
Who knows, who knows.
Chris [00:18:29]:
And you never trust these studies because, yeah, even if you got hold of the university that you’d probably get them going. Yeah, they Took it out of context, you know, so easy to do.
Sam [00:18:41]:
Anyway, this woman in Arkansas, she’s a school director, and she led. She’s been accused of leading a makeshift child fight club. It’s not. It’s not funny.
Chris [00:18:53]:
No, it’s not funny at all.
Sam [00:18:55]:
So she’s got. She pleaded guilty to one count of permitting child abuse and four counts of contributing to the delinquency of a juvenile. So she got 18 students to surround another one and then beat the crap out of them, basically. Ooh. So she’s only. She got 30 days in jail.
Chris [00:19:10]:
Hang on. Did it say why she did that? Like, she. Did she have something against this kid? Or was she trying to teach someone a lesson? Or was she just trying to teach the winners a lesson about don’t be a loser? Or, like, what was she trying to do?
Sam [00:19:23]:
No, I just said she came up with it, basically. And. Yeah, I’ll tell you the name of the school in a minute. That might fill you in a little bit. And she got 30 days in jail. 108 months, nine years on probation, which seems pretty light. And there’s a couple of other people at this school that also got. Three others were also arrested in connection with the abuse.
Sam [00:19:46]:
So there was other people there while this was going on. And this was teenagers. And she’s. I get the feeling she’s the owner and director of this. So I think she just made up a school. Anyway, it was called the Delta Institute for the Developing Brain and. The Engage Program.
Chris [00:20:03]:
The Engaged Program.
Sam [00:20:05]:
The Engage. No D. The Engage Program.
Chris [00:20:08]:
The Engage Program.
Sam [00:20:09]:
So anyway, I guess it’s. I. I wonder if it’s one of those schools that are going to help out troubled teens.
Chris [00:20:15]:
Yeah. Oh, because they had that huge thing there. It was quite a scandal because there was. I remember watching a doco on it, and these guys are getting paid. The government pays a lot for these help teens, fostering and all that. And they are farming fostered kids.
Sam [00:20:37]:
Oh, no.
Chris [00:20:38]:
Really? Basically, they’re doing nothing for them and people are just keeping all the money. Yeah, it. It’s. It’s another. It’s another form of trafficking, except it’s done by the government, basically. Okay, I. I want to talk a little bit. I have this one thing about the war.
Chris [00:20:56]:
A war thing. It’s not Iran, It’s Ukraine.
Sam [00:20:58]:
Oh, yeah, that’s still going on.
Chris [00:21:00]:
Yep, it’s still going on. But this one took me by surprise. Ukraine has accused Steven Seagal of receiving weapons from illegal Russian trafficking networks.
Sam [00:21:11]:
Good. So only if he eats a carrot first.
Chris [00:21:17]:
Yeah. There’s a photo of Russian president Vladimir Putin standing with American actor Steven Seagal. This is from a couple of years ago.
Sam [00:21:24]:
He’s such a weirdo.
Chris [00:21:25]:
He is such a weirdo. So the national police of Ukraine said that the networks. Networks sourced weapons from temporarily occupied Ukrainian territories and through illegal imports from Slovakia. So some of the weapons were distributed as so called prizes by Dennis Pushilin, the head of the Russian installed administration of the De nicht oblast. But yeah, so basically, wherever there’s scum and villainy, you can find Seagal.
Sam [00:22:04]:
He’s always there.
Chris [00:22:06]:
And he looks such a potato these days.
Sam [00:22:08]:
Oh yeah, he’s not aged well. Hey, Kickstart or Dropkick, you can have the world Cheese Hub first or the Inkwan tag.
Chris [00:22:16]:
Go with the cheese.
Sam [00:22:18]:
Okay, so there’s a woman. Let me just try and figure this out. She’s going to teach you how to learn how to make 12 iconic world cheeses at home. She’s gonna give you the recipes, the science, the history and the pairings behind every wheel. So she is Paula. She’s Latin American, based in Amsterdam. Sixteen years ago, she missed cheese from her home and she started making cheese. And it sounds like she’s been teaching people how to do it.
Sam [00:22:52]:
Most people think it’s difficult. She wants to help you out. It’s a digital platform, minimalist digital platform. It’s going to help you. Every cheese has four sections. How to make it, experiment, play and stories. So it’s the full cheese experience. So that’s cool.
Sam [00:23:09]:
So she wants. There’s 21 days to go. That’s cool. She wants $54,000 to make this app. It seems like a lot of money for. Which is basically a website.
Chris [00:23:21]:
Yeah, it’s a lot of money for an app, but we’re talking cheese, so do not underestimate the thing of cheese. I mean, I saw, I think Tash, our old flatmate Tash had a TikTok. I think it was a TikTok. It might have been Instagram. I’ve been looking at all these social.
Sam [00:23:37]:
Because you’ve got a lot of spare time.
Chris [00:23:40]:
I’m filling my time by trying to do social things.
Sam [00:23:42]:
Doom scroll. You do scroll.
Chris [00:23:43]:
No, no, I’m, I’m publishing. But I did see, see Tasha, she was listing the amount of cheese items she had in her fridge and there were more than six, so seven or eight cheese things. So yeah, with the. People love cheese. So I’m going to say they’re already at. In the. Halfway through. They’re already at $250,000.
Sam [00:24:06]:
They’re at $12,000 out of their 54,000. They.
Chris [00:24:10]:
God damn it.
Sam [00:24:11]:
That’s New Zealand dollars, by the way. The actual platform is in euros, this one. So you’re wrong on that one.
Chris [00:24:16]:
Totally wrong. Ah, so do you think they’ll get there at all?
Sam [00:24:20]:
I don’t think so. Like, I think the idea’s really good, but I don’t think they’ve got a big enough market for that. I think it’s too expensive. I think it should be like.
Chris [00:24:30]:
I didn’t ask what each thing was worth.
Sam [00:24:32]:
Oh, yeah.
Chris [00:24:33]:
Actually it would have made a difference. I guess I would it. Hang on.
Sam [00:24:37]:
Then let’s. How much do you think then, as we think about it?
Chris [00:24:41]:
Oh, 50 bucks or something.
Sam [00:24:42]:
Because it is just a digital platform. Like, what are we paying for? Like access to it?
Chris [00:24:47]:
True.
Sam [00:24:48]:
It will. Oh, you can. You can start with six cheeses if you want. And that’s 129 New Zealand dollars. And then. Oh, there’s so many different platforms here. There’s a cheese making workshop as well, which is any Saturday at 10 or at 4. Yeah.
Sam [00:25:04]:
It’s our 219 New Zealand dollars. And if you want all of them, it’s 277 New Zealand dollars.
Chris [00:25:11]:
Yeah, I think that’s her problem. She’s put too many different offers in there.
Sam [00:25:15]:
Too many different offers. Okay, we’re going to go to the Ink Wand tag.
Chris [00:25:19]:
Ink Wand won.
Sam [00:25:22]:
W o N Ink Wonk won. It’s the world’s first four in one pocket. Creative Studio tattoo stickers, heat transfers stickers. HD image. Tag your life with creativity. I can tell you’re excited.
Chris [00:25:39]:
So they’re like transfers you can put on your skin or on different things.
Sam [00:25:43]:
Yep. It’s like a little printer.
Chris [00:25:46]:
Okay, I like it. I’m already in.
Sam [00:25:49]:
And it looks like they may have used the largest images in the world because they are not loading. That’s crazy. But yes, it’s like a little. Actually, most. It’s interesting. Most of this campaign is just images. There’s almost no text. We didn’t just build a four in one printer.
Sam [00:26:05]:
We built a tool to turn your thoughts into something real. Instantly inspired by our early creators, we realized that the smallest creations have the biggest impact. A phrase, a symbol, a mark, a tag. The world doesn’t need more products. It needs more creators who use them with purpose. Give us your story, we’ll give you the tool. So that’s what they want. I’ll tell you how much it is first.
Sam [00:26:24]:
Eh, Little printer. Okay. We are Talking super early bird. You get a pack. So you get the printer, photo stickers, tattoo stickers, heat transfers, and a DIY materials pack. 335 New Zealand dollars.
Chris [00:26:42]:
How.
Sam [00:26:43]:
And then. Right, okay. 46 days to go. So this is quite a new project. They wanted 21,429 New Zealand dollars. How much have they raised so far?
Chris [00:26:56]:
I reckon they got that. I don’t want to say, though, after the last one. I don’t want to say they’re doing really, really well, but I reckon they’re up to maybe four times. Would they?
Sam [00:27:09]:
21,000?
Chris [00:27:09]:
Yeah. So 80 to 100,000.
Sam [00:27:12]:
$442,000.
Chris [00:27:13]:
Whoa. Because there’s a lot of people will be into creating that for their night, the night fair, where they can actually say, hey, I’m the chicken guy, and put the tags on the car.
Sam [00:27:31]:
The problem I find with this, though, is you have to keep buying the consumables from them. And if they go bust, you’re just gonna have this thing that may or may not work.
Chris [00:27:39]:
Yeah, yeah.
Sam [00:27:40]:
So that’s always a problem. There we go. We will have the links to those in our show [email protected] and that brings us to the end of the podcast. And you’re about to say. You want to say one more thing?
Chris [00:27:52]:
No, no, no. I’ll leave it. I’ll leave it.
Sam [00:27:55]:
Okay. Oh, this weekend, I am going to the New Zealand Podcasting Summit. Forgot about that. Oh.
Chris [00:28:01]:
Actually, I did have one story, and it was about podcasts, so maybe I should. Okay, real quick. So the LDS Church has sued Mormon Stories Podcast.
Sam [00:28:10]:
Oh.
Chris [00:28:11]:
Because it said that the branding is causing confusion about affiliation. So Mormon Stories has been going on for 20 years, operating under that name. Like it was. I think it was originally a. What do you call it? Radio station program.
Sam [00:28:27]:
And are these good stories?
Chris [00:28:28]:
Not really.
Sam [00:28:29]:
Okay.
Chris [00:28:30]:
Okay. They’re sort of critical of the church.
Sam [00:28:32]:
Yeah. Yeah. I wasn’t sure which way that was going to go.
Chris [00:28:33]:
Yeah. Which is why it’s a problem. But now the church has started to get a little litigious with it and wants to sue them all about this.
Sam [00:28:42]:
They’ve got some money.
Chris [00:28:43]:
And he’s like, well, it’s been called this a long time. And people. And they’re like, yeah. And we don’t really have a problem. We like to have, you know, both sides heard and all that sort of thing. It’s just that we don’t want them to read, you know, listen to your program and think that that’s come from the church.
Sam [00:29:03]:
Okay.
Chris [00:29:03]:
Like pretty sure they’re not gonna make that mistake. And anyway I, I don’t know how that’ll go because it’s because it’s been used and called that for 20 years. It’s not an easy one like if they started yesterday. Yeah sure. But they’ve been around a long time and there’s never been a problem before so. Yeah but anyway tell us about the podcast summit in New Zealand that you’ll be going to.
Sam [00:29:33]:
This is the fifth year I think third time for me and I will catch up with other like minded podcasters. I like going cause I break their brains when I say we’ve been going about 12 years so that’s fun.
Chris [00:29:44]:
Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah.
Sam [00:29:46]:
So that brings us to the end. Until next time. I’m Sam.
Chris [00:29:48]:
I’m Chris.
Sam [00:29:49]:
See ya.
Chris [00:29:50]:
Bye.
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