Summary

This week, Chris recounts his adventures acting as a medical patient, while Sam survives some heavy-duty theatre work and witnesses questionable installation decisions.

There’s talk of leprosy-carrying armadillos in Florida, reality TV-worthy Guinness World Record attempts, bizarre employment histories, and the wild story of electric shock gloves for ICE officers.

AI-generated vegetables threaten to radicalize kids, landlords get roasted with diss tracks, and we check out some curious Kickstarter finds.

Links

Dealing with annoying landlords
Leprosy and armadillos
Gloves for ICE
Kickstart or Dropkick – Wooden Whale Shark
Kickstart or Dropkick – Cordalock
T-Shirt Folding Record
Bodybuilding Experiment

Show Transcript

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Sam [00:00:21]:
Hello and welcome to episode 594 of the Chris and Sam Podcast.

Chris [00:00:26]:
I’m Chris.

Sam [00:00:26]:
And I’m Sam. Welcome along to your weekly fix of Random Technology and Life, the podcast that you can listen to with your friends, family, relatives, anybody you want.

Chris [00:00:35]:
Even your parrot.

Sam [00:00:37]:
Yep. If you’ve got a parrot, you will be listening to Random Stuff. I’m trying to think if I know anyone with a parrot. Do you know someone with a parrot?

Chris [00:00:45]:
Not anymore. I grew up with somebody with a cockatoo and a parrot across the road when I was a kid.

Sam [00:00:51]:
Okay.

Chris [00:00:51]:
So cool. A bird that talks is so cool.

Sam [00:00:54]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:00:54]:
When you’re a kid, it’s so cool. It’s just amazing.

Sam [00:00:57]:
Yeah. Uh, what have you been up to this week?

Chris [00:00:59]:
Right. So, uh, yesterday I had, um, a doctor’s mock exam. So I did this last year. So it’s an annual thing.

Sam [00:01:06]:
You did. And they, and they, they’re like, we’ve got a guy. He, he looks like something’s wrong with him. He’s not acting. Bring him in. Wheel him in.

Chris [00:01:16]:
Well, that’s the thing. I, I like, I have to hide the cane and sit down. So I’m sitting in the chair when the guy comes in. Yeah. So they don’t know that I’m a cripple. Okay.

Sam [00:01:25]:
Okay. I see. I see.

Chris [00:01:26]:
Um, but yeah, so it was, it was amusing. So there’s a couple of amusing things. First of all, um, they, my case was a bad news case and they had to tell me I had acute leukemia. So basically I’m a builder and I’ve been having these nosebleeds and I’ve, um, just feel knackered and I don’t know why I feel knackered and da da da da da. And the idea is they had, um, my wife had talked me into coming in and getting checked up. They took some blood tests. They called me the very next day and said, you need to come in.

Sam [00:01:56]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:01:56]:
And then I came in, you know, the next day. Um, and so I’m like nervous and worried because you don’t get test results that quick.

Sam [00:02:04]:
No, it’s not good.

Chris [00:02:06]:
And they, they’re outside the room. They have 5 minutes to check out the card that gives them the setup. Then they come in and they have 14 minutes, like it’s very, very regimented, 14 minutes to do this thing. And they’ve got to hit certain criteria and stuff. And the first few got quite they were so thrown by the fact we know exactly what’s wrong with him. He’s going to die, basically. He’s got acute leukemia, that they forgot to examine me. And when you examine someone in the test environment, you say, are you okay for me to examine you? And I say, yes.

Chris [00:02:40]:
And then the examiner gives them a sheet of paper that says, this is what you find in the examination.

Sam [00:02:46]:
It makes sense.

Chris [00:02:46]:
Yeah. So it’s pretty cool. So a few of them forgot, but what was really funny was I’ve been practicing with these guys. So I’ve been doing a few of these other things for the local. So this is regional. This is Waikato and Bay of Plenty.

Sam [00:02:59]:
Oh, okay. Yeah. You’ve been doing the smaller thing.

Chris [00:03:01]:
I’ve been doing the smaller thing down here. And they, one of the girls says, I have to keep remembering that you’re not just one patient that’s got really, you’re just really buggered. Like every time I see you, you’ve got something wrong with you. You’re going blind. You’re a diabetic. You’re overweight. And now you’ve got leukemia. It’s like, I said, I’m the unluckiest guy you’ve ever met.

Sam [00:03:23]:
It probably ties into you hobbling around though as well. Like, yeah, I can imagine that guy’s got all those problems, all the problems in the world.

Chris [00:03:31]:
So, um, that’s what I was up to yesterday. Uh, it’s been a busy week. Um, huge growth explosion in my, uh, school community, which is going really well. So, um, I just thought I’d mention that in that. Um, but also tomorrow I am doing some filming with Adam for a, uh, the Regent Cinema. So that’s going to be a lot of fun.

Sam [00:03:51]:
It’s like a promo thing, eh?

Chris [00:03:53]:
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it’s like the intermission video and the, you know, don’t run around on the seats or something. I don’t know. I don’t know what the details are.

Sam [00:04:03]:
Okay. Look forward to seeing that when it comes out. Uh, we did catch up on the weekend though, because we had Pitch the Producers, which is a Mistyflix Labs thing, was part of the film festival, but we pulled it out, which is a great idea because it’s just a standalone thing now, which can go even bigger. Some pretty cool pitches by some really cool people.

Chris [00:04:21]:
Oh, absolutely.

Sam [00:04:23]:
And some people that need help with pitching.

Chris [00:04:25]:
It’s so funny. I did a, I don’t know if you saw it. I did a post on that on LinkedIn.

Sam [00:04:30]:
Yeah, I saw that because you were talking about, uh, uh, uh, Nimesh.

Chris [00:04:34]:
Nimesh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So he was really good, but I, yeah, cause I, oh, in, in one of the videos I did for this launch that I’m doing, I basically said, it’s so funny because they’re almost the opposite of the people doing the startup founder.

Sam [00:04:48]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:04:48]:
So those guys are real engineers and technical things and they get all the logic right and there’s no emotion. And these guys had all the emotion in the world. We were laughing, we were jumping around. It was so good. And then they were like, they’d finished the pitch and the producers would be like, so what do you want exactly? So they had all that emotion and no logic. It was so funny. It was like the opposite ends of the spectrum.

Sam [00:05:10]:
So that was cool. Yes, very good. Uh, happy with those people coming through. Actually, last week I think I mentioned I had my first gig come up at the theater thing.

Chris [00:05:20]:
Oh yeah.

Sam [00:05:20]:
Uh, my random part-time job that I’ve got for some reason. I went—

Chris [00:05:24]:
It’s because he’s so bored. He’s got nothing to do.

Sam [00:05:29]:
I don’t know, but, uh, I, I went and laid floor tiles and put these barriers up, which are crazy heavy, make no sense. And the installation is just, it’s like nobody’s thought about it. Anyway, uh, me and this guy, a young guy called Cody, did it. So, uh, that was pretty cool. Uh, and I swear I’ve never sweated so much in my life. I don’t know what was wrong with me. It was pouring off of me. Um, and it took 3 days for my legs to recover.

Sam [00:05:57]:
But apart from that, that’s right. But while we were driving back, I’m going to mention this. You don’t want me to, but we are. You came up with some random-ass story.

Chris [00:06:08]:
Oh, Jesus.

Sam [00:06:10]:
What does it say? Yeah, I’ll tell you. I can tell you what it is. So back in the day, the internet was a new thing, the late ’90s, I believe. Somehow, Chris is just telling me the story and I’m just like, okay, this is the weirdest story I’ve heard today in this car. You’re, he’s going door to door selling domain names that end in .cc.

Chris [00:06:36]:
Well, so to be fair, like when you say door-to-door, it’s business-to-business. So we’re selling it to businesses.

Sam [00:06:42]:
That doesn’t make it any better.

Chris [00:06:44]:
Not selling it to random people. But yeah, I don’t even remember when this was. I want to say it’s like ’95, ’90, yeah, 1995. Yeah, so door-to-door selling .cc domain names to businesses so that they can get their .cc website up and running. Um, I can’t even remember the details of it, but yeah. So it is, uh, just, I think I did look it up at one point. Yeah.

Sam [00:07:16]:
It’s for the Cocos Keeling Islands, a part of Australia.

Chris [00:07:21]:
Yeah.

Sam [00:07:21]:
Which makes sense. I just can’t fathom. I guess people just don’t know anything and you’ve got this guy. No, no. You’re like, hey, do you want to be on the internet?

Chris [00:07:31]:
It was a big deal though.

Sam [00:07:33]:
Like, like you said, there was a lot of people doing this.

Chris [00:07:35]:
There’s about 100 people, um, you know, all around Wellington going door to door selling these, um, .ccs.

Sam [00:07:42]:
I guess, I mean, I get it on one part, but it’s the .cc bit.

Chris [00:07:46]:
It’s no, it’s no different from saying, oh, we’ll sell you Grok now. Like, you know, it’s AI back then.

Sam [00:07:53]:
Yeah, but it would, oh, maybe. Yeah.

Chris [00:07:56]:
Anyway, nobody knew what the cc went.

Sam [00:07:58]:
You’re just like, want a website? You need a domain.

Chris [00:08:02]:
.cc.

Sam [00:08:03]:
Sign up now. I know what I’m talking about. There’s 100 of us. What? Why is there 100 of you? I don’t know.

Chris [00:08:10]:
I didn’t, I didn’t sell a lot. I’ll, I’ll be, I’ll be brutally honest with that one.

Sam [00:08:14]:
Okay. Well, that was a little detour into the one.

Chris [00:08:18]:
Hang on.

Sam [00:08:18]:
Hang on. You know what we need? We need a list of all the jobs you’ve done. Like mine is like 6 or 7 maybe.

Chris [00:08:27]:
Oh, Jesus. Yeah.

Sam [00:08:28]:
I’ve been in, I’ve been in roles for a long time.

Chris [00:08:31]:
I, yeah, no, I’ve had a lot. I used to go to the gym and I’d see this guy at the gym all the time and he’d be like, oh, what are you up to? I’m doing this. And he said to me one day, I was at the gym for like a few years. He goes, how long do you keep each job for? Like, and I was like, a while.

Sam [00:08:48]:
What are you talking about?

Chris [00:08:49]:
He’s like, You have a new job every time I see you.

Sam [00:08:52]:
I mean, listeners of this podcast can attest to that over the last, over 12 years.

Chris [00:08:59]:
Oh yeah. There’s been a few.

Sam [00:09:01]:
You were, yeah. Just to—

Chris [00:09:03]:
Health 2000.

Sam [00:09:04]:
Hang on. A couple of, yeah. A couple of things. Health 2000, the blood, uh, Moorgate, the blood place. Oh yeah.

Chris [00:09:10]:
Yeah.

Sam [00:09:10]:
Spookers.

Chris [00:09:11]:
Spookers.

Sam [00:09:11]:
The temporary fencing place.

Chris [00:09:13]:
Oh yeah.

Sam [00:09:13]:
Gilmore’s. Yeah. They’re the ones I can think of.

Chris [00:09:16]:
Yeah. Um, and epic learning, I suppose. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, yeah.

Sam [00:09:21]:
And a little bit of medical acting thrown in.

Chris [00:09:24]:
I, I want to tell you this story. Just, I don’t know. I just think it’s cool. We should do it. Well, no, not us necessarily, but—

Sam [00:09:32]:
Carry on.

Chris [00:09:34]:
Um, yeah. Um, if you, are you exasperated by your landlord? Try make a diss music video. So it’s a big thing. Like I think in the UK, I think this is, uh, oh no, America. It’s America. Cleveland. 2 frustrated Clevelanders who wrote a song to call out their building owner among the many American tenants becoming more vocal about their rights. But they’re all doing these music videos and just posting them online and then they blow up because they’re so funny.

Chris [00:10:05]:
Okay.

Sam [00:10:06]:
I can get behind that. That’s good. Yeah, yeah.

Chris [00:10:09]:
I thought that was pretty cool. I’m like, oh, if you want to have a bitch and moan, make it like how the Iranians have done it with America, like in their Lego videos and make it viral. And what the hell? I mean, that sounds fun. That sounds creative, useful.

Sam [00:10:24]:
Well, I mean, along those lines, I think there’s some AI-generated videos coming out of vegetables, like attacking each other. And they, they’re worried that’s going to radicalize children. It’s like some potatoes with arms and legs and they’re like killing each other. Who would have thought that AI could have done that for us? Our favorite person’s back in the news again. Uh, by favorite, it’s a guy that has no real job, I believe.

Chris [00:10:52]:
Oh, the, the t-shirt wearing big, uh, wearing a million t-shirts.

Sam [00:10:57]:
That’s right. The Guinness World Record guy.

Chris [00:10:59]:
Yeah. Yeah.

Sam [00:10:59]:
Uh, he’s back again. David Rush. We talk about him a lot because he keeps popping up in my feed and stuff. He holds more than 200 concurrent Guinness World Records. The funny thing is he, he must be based Maybe in Las Vegas, but he ends up there and he seems to rope in people to help him with some of these world records as like a team building thing, maybe. So it—

Chris [00:11:23]:
And he charges them for it. Yeah.

Sam [00:11:25]:
Yeah, no, it’s— yeah, exactly. That’s what I’m thinking. So I think it’s super niche while he still gets to scratch his itch of trying to do a world record with a bunch of people. So he recruited 10 coworkers and a Las Vegas mentalist performer. To, um, what was it? I’m just trying to remember what the actual title is. The T-Shirt Folding World Record. So it took them 10 tries to finish. And they have to, they’ve got to do it as a team.

Sam [00:11:54]:
That’s right. So they’ve got to pass it along and they’ve got to do it all perfectly. And if they touch it wrong or fold it wrong, they just, it gets canceled. So they did it. Uh, the record was 2 minutes and 24 seconds and he did it, uh, Anyway, he did it a bit quicker. Oh, sorry. 2 minutes, 19.65. Like just.

Sam [00:12:15]:
We endured disqualification. Some teammates rushed their folds, leaving crumpled rectangles. I really do want to see this guy just like Hulk out at people. Like his, like he lives and breathes this and he’s trying to get these records.

Chris [00:12:29]:
It’s like Celebrity Apprentice, but Celebrity Guinness Book of Records.

Sam [00:12:33]:
I mean, yeah. And he’s got 200 on the go at once. So he’s like, what’s the next record?

Chris [00:12:37]:
Okay.

Sam [00:12:37]:
I better do it with some people. Yeah, you’re right.

Chris [00:12:39]:
That could be a, uh, an interesting, um, what do you call it? What do you— reality TV show. Yeah.

Sam [00:12:45]:
Maybe. I’ve got another interesting reality TV show for you, sort of. This guy decided, or was doing an experiment is what he said, and he was like, oh, I’m just gonna drink heavily and take steroids without working out, and then I’ll go to a bodybuilding competition.

Chris [00:13:04]:
What could go wrong with that?

Sam [00:13:06]:
Well, he came last, so he placed, but he came last in the Open Class B, uh, in New York. Yeah, so that was all pretty good, but then while they were doing the judging, he went to go drink some more and then he lost track of time and he actually missed the finals. So all around, he’s a loose unit. Um, but he was drinking up to 24 alcoholic drinks a day. And then during the cutting phase, of course, he switched from beer to vodka, as you would, to help hopefully get leaner. Uh, he thought he was going to work out while he was drinking, but then realized that was probably a bad idea. So, so he stopped doing that, but then started taking the steroids. So it was just going to be an alcohol thing first.

Chris [00:13:52]:
Um, yeah, I, I, yeah, I’m not, I’m not going, um.

Sam [00:13:56]:
But now, after all of that. He, I think, is going to start training properly. He’s actually going to start lifting and see how he goes there. He’s going to stop taking the steroids. I’m sure that’s easy.

Chris [00:14:10]:
Okay. I got, I got an interesting question for you. I wasn’t going to start here, but I’ll start here actually. What do you think about armadillos? Are they cute? Are they—

Sam [00:14:22]:
I’m sure they’re tasty. Are we going to talk about tastiness? Can we cook them up into a broth?

Chris [00:14:26]:
Probably can. I imagine they used to eat them.

Sam [00:14:30]:
Yep, they’re cool looking. They’re good.

Chris [00:14:32]:
Would you touch one?

Sam [00:14:33]:
Nah.

Chris [00:14:34]:
Okay. That’s a good instinct there. So leprosy cases climb in Florida.

Sam [00:14:42]:
Good.

Chris [00:14:43]:
So everything’s going wrong in the States at the moment, right? But cases of leprosy are on the rise in Florida.

Sam [00:14:51]:
Because they’re all going around touching these things.

Chris [00:14:53]:
Reported 17 cases statewide with 81% in Central Florida. Last year, Florida had 36 cases, a record high since reporting began in ’92. But it’s a slow-growing bacterium called Mycobacterium leprae. And I read a really good series of books called the Thomas Covenant series. And the—

Sam [00:15:21]:
Okay.

Chris [00:15:21]:
The hero is Like the first anti-hero I ever read. I was a teenager. I was pretty upset with this guy, but he had leprosy. He had to deal with it. It was part of his character. It’s actually really cool. I learned a lot about leprosy from that. They used to think it was highly contagious.

Chris [00:15:39]:
Like, you know, that’s when they had all those leper colonies and all that sort of thing. But it’s actually not. It’s actually really hard to get it from person to person.

Sam [00:15:46]:
Oh, okay.

Chris [00:15:47]:
But apparently getting it from armadillo to person is not so hard. So don’t touch armadillos. That’s what I was going to say. I don’t think I would’ve guessed that.

Sam [00:15:56]:
I’m glad we don’t have that many random animals here.

Chris [00:15:59]:
I know, I know. Yeah. Yeah. I’m glad I’m not scared of birds either, because if you’re scared of birds, New Zealand’s not the place to be. Because all we have is birds. Actually, just on the health as well, did you see anything about this aircraft carrier of the States, the Lincoln?

Sam [00:16:21]:
Oh, they’re not— yeah, they’ve been out there forever. 200-plus days or something.

Chris [00:16:26]:
260 days.

Sam [00:16:27]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:16:28]:
Or 60-odd days.

Sam [00:16:28]:
And it sounds like a floating prison at this point in time.

Chris [00:16:31]:
Yeah. So they’re running out of food and they’re— because they also, because Iran bombed their Qatar base. Is it Qatar base? One of the bases.

Sam [00:16:42]:
Oh yeah. One of the bases.

Chris [00:16:43]:
Okay. That was supplying them with food. They’re not getting their food from there.

Sam [00:16:46]:
Oh no.

Chris [00:16:47]:
So they have to keep going off station for 5 days and then 5 days sailing back and they can only get a portion of what they would normally get from this other place.

Sam [00:16:55]:
That’s nuts.

Chris [00:16:55]:
Yeah. So they’re running out of food, the toilets are breaking, people are getting upset. And what people didn’t realize, I didn’t realize till I heard this yesterday, they go, oh, the majority of— there’s 5,000 people on a carrier. The majority of them are a lower rank, ensign, I forget, whatever rank it is. cleared to go on deck. Oh. So they’ve never, they haven’t seen the sun.

Sam [00:17:23]:
Oh, oh no.

Chris [00:17:24]:
In 260 days. They’re not allowed outside.

Sam [00:17:28]:
Oh no.

Chris [00:17:29]:
That gives, that puts a whole different complexion on it, eh?

Sam [00:17:32]:
I wanna see them unload it and have all these people, like these pale squinty people.

Chris [00:17:37]:
Yeah. They’re basically in a steel box every day, all day, every day for 260 days.

Sam [00:17:42]:
Oh, I mean, yeah, it’s a lot of people, eh? ‘Cause like, what’s How many fit in a submarine? Like they can go around for ages, but—

Chris [00:17:49]:
Yeah, I would, I would guess 30, but I have no idea.

Sam [00:17:52]:
Who knows?

Chris [00:17:53]:
I have no idea.

Sam [00:17:54]:
Okay. That’s no good. What about your mate Trump dodging his fake plane? And he’s in the catering truck.

Chris [00:18:03]:
Well, cause it’s, it’s not even a catering truck. It’s a container that they come out with a forklift and drop on the truck. And so, yeah, I mean, what cracks me up is, you know, I’m big and I’m tough and I hide in the catering truck. But he had— with, with Hekseft next to it.

Sam [00:18:20]:
But he had this random woman, the human printer.

Chris [00:18:23]:
Natalie Harp.

Sam [00:18:24]:
What? I was just reading about that. Yeah, I was just reading about that today. I was like, what is going on? So there’s some woman that’s addicted to him.

Chris [00:18:31]:
Yep.

Sam [00:18:31]:
She’s obsessed about him.

Chris [00:18:32]:
She’s 35 years old and she just writes notes to him all the time.

Sam [00:18:38]:
And she carries around a printer with a battery pack to print out stuff in hard copy for him to look at.

Chris [00:18:43]:
Yeah, because he does not look at phones. He will not look at a phone. Unless he texts or something.

Sam [00:18:48]:
No, I think, I think she sometimes drafts his texts as well.

Chris [00:18:51]:
Yeah. Yeah.

Sam [00:18:52]:
It’s a very strange relationship. This has come out.

Chris [00:18:54]:
Yeah. And her brother’s concerned about the relationship, but he did say, I don’t think it’s sexual. It’s just a weird, weird relationship.

Sam [00:19:03]:
Wow. Why not?

Chris [00:19:06]:
We should—

Sam [00:19:07]:
we can’t expect anything less. Uh, kickstart or dropkick. I’ve got some for you this week.

Chris [00:19:12]:
Okay. What’d you got?

Sam [00:19:14]:
Uh, we’re going to start with a wooden whale shark. A wooden whale shark.

Chris [00:19:18]:
Okay.

Sam [00:19:19]:
Automaton, which is, which is inspired by the ocean. So this guy in Tasmania has handcrafted these, uh, little wooden, um, things.

Chris [00:19:29]:
Oh, a little one?

Sam [00:19:30]:
Yeah. They sit on your desk.

Chris [00:19:30]:
In my head it was full size. I don’t know why.

Sam [00:19:33]:
No.

Chris [00:19:34]:
And a whale shark is like one of the biggest things.

Sam [00:19:37]:
It’s a little desktop. Doohickey. Oh, wow.

Chris [00:19:39]:
That is cool.

Sam [00:19:41]:
And it’s pretty simple. It’s just, it’s got cogs or wheels and it sort of looks like it’s swimming, but on your desk.

Chris [00:19:46]:
Yeah. So it’s, um, it’s, it’s a sculpture on, on sticks, basically with, um, off the base and the base has cogs moving around. And so the top moves in a sort of very flowy motion. Looks very cool.

Sam [00:20:00]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:20:00]:
Yeah.

Sam [00:20:00]:
And I guess it’s battery powered or something similar like that.

Chris [00:20:04]:
Um, and it’s painted. It’s not, it doesn’t look like wood. I was thinking wood grain when he said it, but it’s painted. It looks very cool.

Sam [00:20:12]:
Uh, so you’ve got 7 days to go, about 4 days if you listen to this when this podcast comes out, something like that, but that’s okay. I’m sure they’ll be around. You can find it. Um, if you want the early bird, you can get one for about $267 New Zealand dollars.

Chris [00:20:32]:
That’s steep.

Sam [00:20:33]:
Well, that’s sort of the basic one. $283 for like a hammerhead shark. They do that as well.

Chris [00:20:37]:
Okay. How, um, how big was that thing? Does, I, I didn’t really get a, an idea of the size.

Sam [00:20:46]:
I reckon they’re probably—

Chris [00:20:48]:
30 centimeters long?

Sam [00:20:49]:
At, at, yeah, at most.

Chris [00:20:50]:
Yeah. Okay.

Sam [00:20:52]:
So that’s what’s happening there.

Chris [00:20:53]:
Yep.

Sam [00:20:54]:
They only needed, I love it. It’s an Australian project, which we don’t normally see. So when I see the difference in price. It’s not that much. Um, they want $2,736 New Zealand.

Chris [00:21:07]:
All up.

Sam [00:21:08]:
All up to make this. And like, this person’s a craftsperson. Uh, Nick is his name. Nick’s Wood Art Studio. Shout out to him. And, you know, he’ll be making these anyway. He’s probably just got to buy the little components he needs.

Chris [00:21:22]:
Yeah, but it means he has to make each and every one.

Sam [00:21:26]:
Yeah, but that’s what makes it special too. Yeah.

Chris [00:21:27]:
Yeah.

Sam [00:21:28]:
Yeah. As well.

Chris [00:21:28]:
So like, and that’s why it’s worth More.

Sam [00:21:30]:
Yeah. Yeah, that’s right.

Chris [00:21:31]:
Because he’s putting an art piece. Yeah.

Sam [00:21:33]:
Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, $2,736. How much do you think he’s raised? He’s almost at the end of this project.

Chris [00:21:38]:
Hmm. I think it looks fantastic. So I’m going to say, uh, $2,000. He’s, he’s sold.

Sam [00:21:44]:
I love it when you do the math.

Chris [00:21:46]:
Yeah. I’m thinking he’s sold at least 100 of those. That’s $270,000, isn’t it? Uh, yeah. Let’s say $400,000.

Sam [00:21:55]:
$184,000.

Chris [00:21:56]:
Oh, okay. I was, I was way off again. but I was going high because I always go too low. Okay.

Sam [00:22:03]:
Now, before you had a bung hip, you had a bike. You’ve still got a bike, but it’s not—

Chris [00:22:07]:
I still have a bike and a bung hip.

Sam [00:22:09]:
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you’re not, you’re not, you’re not accessing it. Uh, so this is Cordalock, C-O-R-D-A-L-O-C-K. And it’s like this, um, uh, it’s like a cord that can go into 3 areas into a lock. I’m describing this terribly on audio medium, but you can lock your seat, all your wheels, and your frame all together.

Chris [00:22:34]:
So one central hub lock and 3 loops coming off it type thing?

Sam [00:22:38]:
Pretty much, yeah.

Chris [00:22:40]:
Okay. All right.

Sam [00:22:41]:
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Chris [00:22:42]:
That makes sense.

Sam [00:22:43]:
And apparently it’s very strong, lightweight, saves you carrying bulkier stuff is the gist.

Chris [00:22:50]:
Which honestly is true. I’ve got a really bulky thing on my bike.

Sam [00:22:55]:
Yeah, it’s a pain.

Chris [00:22:56]:
I think I stopped taking it with me for a while because it’s, I wrap it around under the seat, around the stem, under the seat. And it was just huge and it’s heavy and ugh.

Sam [00:23:04]:
So they say 3 locks and 1 patented device secure your frame, both wheels and saddle with the same level of protection with 1 key. So it looks pretty cool. How secure this thing is, who knows?

Chris [00:23:17]:
When it’s light, you go, okay, so yes, scissors. Yeah.

Sam [00:23:23]:
Uh, if you want one, what the first thing they show you is like a 2-pack. No, I just want the 1-pack. So one of them is $344 New Zealand dollars.

Chris [00:23:36]:
Yeah.

Sam [00:23:37]:
10 days to go at the time of recording.

Chris [00:23:40]:
Yeah.

Sam [00:23:40]:
They needed $17,000 to get this to market.

Chris [00:23:46]:
$300 odd. Oh yeah. They’ve blown past the $17,000 in the first hour. So I’m going to give you some reasoning behind why I think this.

Sam [00:23:56]:
Yeah, good.

Chris [00:23:57]:
Yeah, good. I have friends whose bikes are between $5,000 and $25,000 each.

Sam [00:24:04]:
Yes. Yes, right.

Chris [00:24:06]:
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Pinny and the boys, their downhill bikes and all that sort of crap. And when you’ve got a $15,000 bike, A $300 lock makes a lot of sense.

Sam [00:24:19]:
Yeah, yeah. And you want to make it awkward so they’ll pick a different bike that doesn’t have a lock.

Chris [00:24:24]:
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It’s not so much, we can get through that, but that one’s quicker, so let’s go there. So yeah, yeah. So that’s, yeah, I think it’ll sell. And there’s so many, so many people ride bikes around the world. It’s a huge market. So yeah, they’ve caned this. This is a million dollars.

Sam [00:24:44]:
$260,000. Ooh.

Chris [00:24:46]:
How far, how far were they through again?

Sam [00:24:49]:
10 more days to go.

Chris [00:24:50]:
Ah, so they’re not going to get anywhere near it. Okay.

Sam [00:24:54]:
Not at all. I like your enthusiasm as always.

Chris [00:24:58]:
Well, they blew past the $17,000 though. Yeah.

Sam [00:25:02]:
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, good on them. Uh, be interesting to see if that, what it’s like once it’s on the market. They may have made another lock in the past. I don’t know. I did not research this very well. So, cause some of these Kickstarter, usually they say if it’s version 2 or if they’ve done something before in the first bit.

Chris [00:25:19]:
Yeah.

Sam [00:25:19]:
So yeah.

Chris [00:25:20]:
Um, did you hear this thing about, uh, the latest thing that ICE is doing in the States?

Sam [00:25:29]:
So ICE, what’s ICE stand for again?

Chris [00:25:31]:
Um, immigration something.

Sam [00:25:34]:
Enforcement?

Chris [00:25:35]:
Yeah. Enforcement. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

Sam [00:25:39]:
Yeah.

Chris [00:25:40]:
Okay.

Sam [00:25:40]:
Okay. Well, now what are they up to? Are they getting some more like—

Chris [00:25:43]:
And then it goes, the first line is Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers may soon be outfitted with gloves that can deliver painful electric shocks intended to gain compliance from combative individuals. So that’s spending $20 million. We need thousands.

Sam [00:26:04]:
We need to get into defense products. We could just make something simple and go, this will protect you.

Chris [00:26:14]:
Okay. Um, purchase thousands of conductive distract— conductive distraction and de-escalation devices. So like, oh, it’s not going to really hurt. It’s just going to annoy them. I’m like, you’re already annoying, bro.

Sam [00:26:30]:
Um, I’m confident that we can spin the words. For the product we have not come up with yet.

Chris [00:26:35]:
Oh, you haven’t even heard the acronym yet.

Sam [00:26:39]:
Okay.

Chris [00:26:39]:
I’m having trouble with my words today. The devices are known as GLOVE. G-L-O-V-E. Generated Low Output Voltage Emitter.

Sam [00:26:50]:
Does it— he’s making it up. Does it explain how they work? Um, hang on, let me see if I’ve got something Do you get, do you, is it, is it problematic if you get wet, the person wearing them?

Chris [00:27:05]:
Good question. Compliant Technologies, which is the person that, the people that made it. Yep, I bet they are. I bet they are. Says the devices function as normal pair of patrol gloves until officers press a switch to activate their electrical mode.

Sam [00:27:22]:
Hang on. Do you hit click, click? Okay, carry on.

Chris [00:27:26]:
The gloves must be applied directly to someone’s skin to deliver a pain stimulus that typically helps an officer gain compliance within seconds, according to the company. It’s immediate and sharp, and it will distract you. I call it like a bee sting, said John Peters, president of the Institute for the Prevention— president of the Institute for the Prevention of Incustody Deaths. Who is studying how the device has been used.

Sam [00:27:54]:
He’s made that up.

Chris [00:27:55]:
If the officer is getting any type of resistance from the person, this is certainly an effective tool.

Sam [00:28:02]:
You know someone’s going to touch himself with this thing.

Chris [00:28:04]:
Everybody’s going, I can’t wait till the first story about somebody taking a piss in the cuffs.

Sam [00:28:12]:
Oh.

Chris [00:28:12]:
Just— because these guys are not known for their smarts.

Sam [00:28:16]:
Or it just starts short-circuiting and the switch comes on. Oh my gosh, that’s craziness. And that’s what we’re all about here at the Chris and Sam Podcast, tcasp.com. Check out all our show notes and past episodes. We would love you to. People are listening to us, but I really don’t know who. We’ve said this in the past. I don’t know.

Sam [00:28:37]:
Bots, AI, actual humans, people that are stalking us.

Chris [00:28:42]:
Elon Musk.

Sam [00:28:43]:
Could be. I, I imagine if we were some weird sleeper sleeper podcast for somebody. They’re just like, I just listened to these 2 weirdos in New Zealand.

Chris [00:28:54]:
Well, I’m sure there are plenty of people out there that don’t admit to the fact that they listen to it.

Sam [00:28:58]:
No, but that’s what we want. We want you to share it. Go out and share it to the world.

Chris [00:29:02]:
Go share it.

Sam [00:29:03]:
So until next time, I’m Sam.

Chris [00:29:04]:
I’m Chris.

Sam [00:29:05]:
See ya.

Chris [00:29:05]:
Bye.