Summary
We got friend of the show Karl to talk to us about awesome part games and discuss SpaceTeam and Heads Up.
We also somehow managed to get the worst coffee and hot chocolate in all of Hamilton thanks to Momento.
We make our picks for the best films for 2015, discuss the upcoming movie being made from the movie Ready Player One and talk about the Spark unconference.
Photos
Karl at the Chris and Sam podcast Sudio
Links
Spaceteam
Heads Up
Momento Coffee Hamilton
Intersteller
The Purge:Anarchy
Guardians of the Galaxy
Ready Player One
Star Wars Behind the Scenes
Show Transcript
Chris [00:00:21]:
Hey, Sam. How are you doing?
Sam [00:00:23]:
Hey, Chris. I’m going good. Happy New Year. Happy New Year, dude. 2015 is here and In the house. So so far so good.
Chris [00:00:30]:
Yeah. And we have finally got the elusive lush monster out of the bushes and into the couch.
Sam [00:00:36]:
There you go. We We better explain that it’s actually a person named Carl who, is hard to track down.
Karl [00:00:41]:
Thanks, Sam. I appreciate the intro, Chris, but I prefer to be called Carl Carl Hartley and not the lush monster just yet.
Chris [00:00:49]:
It’s his gaming name. I it’s not a name I just made up just to say. Yeah.
Sam [00:00:52]:
You better better chuck that out there just in case people think it’s a pet name that you 2 have.
Karl [00:00:57]:
I am on Chris’s couch, so maybe. Aren’t we all?
Sam [00:01:00]:
Aren’t we all?
Chris [00:01:02]:
Yeah. What can I say? I’m a social guy.
Sam [00:01:05]:
Yeah. Welcome to the, awesome podcasting studio that we have set up.
Karl [00:01:08]:
Yeah. Thanks for having me, guys.
Sam [00:01:10]:
That’s alright.
Chris [00:01:11]:
Yeah. So, what did you do for New Year’s Eve, Sam?
Sam [00:01:15]:
I worked and then I went to sleep.
Chris [00:01:17]:
Yeah. I thought you were working. I I I think you mentioned that you were working.
Sam [00:01:20]:
So nothing exciting for me at all?
Chris [00:01:22]:
Yeah. So, I was with Cowell, actually, and and some of our friends. And we, we had a pretty good night, because I was gonna have a quiet, you know, old man night and just watch whatever’s on TV Yeah. Go to bed, with some beers or something. But, no. Cal went out to a friend’s place, had dinner and stuff. We played Space Team. Now did you mention Space Team on The podcast? I don’t think you did.
Sam [00:01:43]:
I don’t think I have.
Chris [00:01:44]:
No. You mentioned it to me after, a podcast.
Sam [00:01:48]:
Yes. Because I’ve had it on my phone for months months, and I keep forgetting. And then finally, we had a game.
Chris [00:01:53]:
Yeah. It it is fun. And, so I’ve I’ve played a couple of parties so far.
Sam [00:01:58]:
How did it go down?
Chris [00:02:01]:
Well, it was good and bad with us because there’s only 2 Androids in the room and everybody else had iPhones and The works on iPhones. Oh, is it? I thought for some reason you said it in.
Sam [00:02:10]:
No. No. I’ve got it on the iPad and I’ve played it with both both the the iPad and
Karl [00:02:15]:
the iPad. Chris Chris is looking at me funny but, I think I knew that as well.
Chris [00:02:19]:
Oh, man. I failed. Can I can I put a
Karl [00:02:21]:
put a put a bit of perspective on this? Yeah.
Sam [00:02:23]:
You better. You better.
Karl [00:02:24]:
So Chris is, like, absolutely, like, selling this game.
Sam [00:02:28]:
Hang on. We should explain what the how the game works.
Karl [00:02:30]:
Do you want me to Yeah.
Chris [00:02:30]:
Yeah. Yeah. There’s 2.
Karl [00:02:31]:
Go, Christie. You go, Chris.
Chris [00:02:32]:
Oh, yeah. So, you’ve got different pea you you can’t play chris and player. You have to play with other people, and they’ve got to have The own phone. 2 to 4 players. And, you’re in a spaceship, basically, is the The, and instructions come on the screen. And you’ve got a control panel in front of you, which is like sliders and knobs and buttons and things, and they’ve all got funny labels on them. And, The, but you’ve some of the instructions that come are for you and some of them are for somebody else because what they’re talking about is not on your control board. So you end up yelling out to somebody else, can you grease the f hole? Was one of the ones we had.
Sam [00:03:10]:
Some of the ones I had were really long technical names that were very similar to someone else’s control panel. Yeah. And you just,
Karl [00:03:16]:
no, wrong one.
Chris [00:03:17]:
Geodode, I dode, and stuff. It’s worse when it gets to the pictograms, and you’re like, the customs officer. And she’s like, what customs officer? And then she’d go, the policeman with the laptop. And I’m like, it’s a suitcase knob. It’s a customs officer.
Sam [00:03:33]:
I haven’t come across that.
Karl [00:03:34]:
No. And. No. Neither.
Sam [00:03:35]:
I came across and, you know, when it says shake asteroid
Karl [00:03:40]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:03:40]:
And then tilt so you have it above your head. That was all good. There was another and, and I can’t remember for the life of me what it was. And it was something like, I think you had to yell at the phone, I think, was what they wanted you to do. But I couldn’t see my brother in law’s screen, so I couldn’t work out because he’s, oh, I don’t have The. I don’t have that. And I was, oh, I don’t have
Chris [00:03:58]:
it. Right. Right. So, yeah. So anyway, it’s good at a party because you got these people yelling at each
Sam [00:04:05]:
other.
Karl [00:04:05]:
Looking crazy.
Sam [00:04:06]:
Looking nuts. So so how did this go down, Kyle?
Chris [00:04:08]:
Not well. Okay. So I’ll do
Karl [00:04:10]:
it from my perspective first, and then I’ll do it from the people’s spectating’s perspective. So my perspective, I’m concentrating to the max, trying to look at the screen, trying to multitask, and Chris is just yelling, grease your f hole, grease your f hole.
Sam [00:04:22]:
And I’m
Karl [00:04:22]:
like, where’s my f hole? Where’s my f hole? And then he starts yelling, shake it. Shake it.
Chris [00:04:31]:
And then the next command is red teary f hole which is even worse. And so I’ve
Karl [00:04:36]:
spent I’ve totally fixated on my on my phone trying to
Sam [00:04:39]:
Yeah.
Karl [00:04:39]:
And I’m just following commands, you know. And then I look up and there’s this audience of everyone else at this party just like looking at each The, looking really uncomfortable going, is Chris phone even on? Is is chris even a game? Yeah.
Sam [00:04:52]:
Yeah. Yeah. Is this just something you guys
Karl [00:04:54]:
are doing? I think I lost some social credit in The,
Chris [00:04:58]:
but which shows you to the level of esteem that my, friends have for me.
Karl [00:05:04]:
I I think if they’re in it, they’ll get it. Yeah.
Sam [00:05:06]:
Yeah. But
Karl [00:05:07]:
if you’re a spectating at first and not knowing what the game is, it’s
Chris [00:05:09]:
it looks crazy. And when I say a party, there’s only, what, 5 of us there.
Karl [00:05:12]:
So yeah. Still a 6. It was a solid 6 people.
Chris [00:05:14]:
Solid 6. Yeah. So so yeah. 3 or 4 people sitting there watching 2 people play. It’s not No.
Sam [00:05:19]:
It’s very hard. You need to get people involved. So my sister was a bit skeptical about it and, played against The, and she was laughing along and having a good time. And then the brother-in-law, he was real skeptical on it, and he used to go, oh, it’s stupid. But there he is cracking up laughing as he’s trying to yell stuff to me. Unfortunately, we got too busy with all the kids and stuff, so we couldn’t get all 3 people playing at once.
Chris [00:05:41]:
Yeah. Well, I got Carolyn and and had a go with Carolyn and because you both know Carolyn. She’s a pretty pretty quiet type. She loved it. I didn’t expect her to. I was like, I tried this. I just wanna see what you think. She’s, computer games, you know, I don’t do that Facebook thing.
Chris [00:05:56]:
I don’t do computer games. I don’t do and she loved it. It was really funny. But what we did do, which was a big hit on the night, was we played Heads Up. And Heads Up, is off The Ellen DeGeneres Show, if you’ve ever seen that.
Sam [00:06:09]:
This is sounding really vaguely, really vaguely familiar.
Karl [00:06:12]:
Yes. Same.
Sam [00:06:13]:
I I think I heard about it.
Karl [00:06:14]:
Must have been quite a while ago, close to a year, I think.
Sam [00:06:16]:
But you’re gonna have to explain this one to me. Yeah.
Chris [00:06:18]:
Yeah. So, The on The Ellen Show, if you’ve seen it, she gets interviews people in interviews, and she does this game with them. She must be raking it in, going podcast. I
Karl [00:06:30]:
I love it how Chris is looking at me laughing.
Sam [00:06:33]:
He is.
Chris [00:06:34]:
So last night, Cal’s like, you can buy extra decks of chris, and I’ll explain what the game is in a second. But you can buy extra decks of cards, and they’re like, you know, in app purchases. They’re about a buck each or something, something a dollar 50 or whatever. And because we’ve been playing the music through Bluetooth, through those speakers, through his phone, it was Yep. Done to the phone. Right? And every time he’d buy a new app, you’d hear this ka ching around the room from these two speakers that are on chris Bluetooth. And I’m like, I bet in Ellen DeGeneres’ mansion, there’s a speaker like that. And every time somebody buys one of these apps around the world, it goes, ka ching.
Chris [00:07:07]:
And she just walks around all night going, ka ching ka ching ka ching ka ching.
Karl [00:07:11]:
Like, what are those jackpot The at the casino or something? And it’s like $1,000,000,003 now.
Chris [00:07:17]:
Yeah. Because anyway, so what happens is you pick a deck, so, like, geography, for example.
Sam [00:07:22]:
Yep.
Chris [00:07:22]:
And, you hold it on your forehead.
Sam [00:07:26]:
So So you’re holding your phone above your head? Yeah.
Chris [00:07:28]:
So everybody else can see it, but you can’t. Yeah. And it’ll say, like, the Arc de Triomphe for for geography. Right? Yeah. So it’s famous landmarks and things like that. And, everybody’s gotta try and give you a clue without telling you what it actually is. So,
Karl [00:07:45]:
I think Darth Vader is coming in.
Sam [00:07:47]:
That’s someone either entering your house or
Chris [00:07:49]:
trying to leave. Somebody’s leaving. That’s all good.
Sam [00:07:54]:
So, Felt like casual ass. Yeah. Yeah.
Chris [00:08:01]:
I I she’s nowhere down here. She’s been sleeping because she got home like midnight last night. We can edit that for now.
Sam [00:08:07]:
Yeah. With the power of my editing fingers.
Chris [00:08:10]:
Alright. So, yeah. So, you’ve got act The triumph for whatever. And the idea is the crowd get gives you the clues without telling you what it is. And this can be amusing particularly when you mix it with alcohol. And I’m talking about margaritas, punch with lots of tequila, and coherence amounts of beer. Oh, and the best thing, Sam, that you’ll love about
Sam [00:08:33]:
chris? Yeah. I’m just looking at it now on the The store.
Chris [00:08:35]:
While while you’re doing this, it’s filming the people.
Sam [00:08:39]:
It’s
Karl [00:08:39]:
the genius of the game.
Chris [00:08:41]:
It’s genius. And so The that one thing because we showed you that little chris.
Sam [00:08:45]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:08:45]:
It was that The movie. It was a movie thing, and it was Psycho.
Sam [00:08:49]:
That The of us 3 of
Chris [00:08:50]:
us at one time went, stabbing motion The.
Sam [00:08:53]:
It makes so much more sense now that you’ve explained The to me. I I saw this clip, and, didn’t know what was going on.
Karl [00:08:59]:
It’s like the game is like a a vine generator. You can get these little sick sucking, like, clips They just look awesome. The yeah.
Chris [00:09:06]:
And some of the things are so, so fun.
Karl [00:09:08]:
The basic instinct and was pretty, pretty interesting as well. Cal and I were next
Chris [00:09:12]:
to each other on the couch again, funny enough. And, we did the it was basic instinct and the 2 of us just, in sync, did the big leg cross.
Sam [00:09:20]:
Yeah. Yeah.
Karl [00:09:21]:
I just threw up in my mouth just then.
Sam [00:09:24]:
I’m good. Glad you did, sir. I’m glad you did.
Chris [00:09:28]:
Anyway, it’s, it was a great night. So we had we had fun, The we went to town and, yes, talked to the ladies. How’d
Sam [00:09:35]:
that go? Not well. The way you said The, I was waiting for some even story there. Yeah.
Karl [00:09:41]:
Where’s the payoff, Chris? Where’s the payoff?
Chris [00:09:43]:
There’s there’s no payoff.
Karl [00:09:44]:
I was always There was
Chris [00:09:45]:
no trust me, there was no payoff. I had a good go, though. Anyway, so, we were going to talk about you had an idea of some lists for and, like, these films of
Sam [00:09:58]:
2 things. Hang on. First, we I thought we’re talking about the, the coffee that
Chris [00:10:03]:
you guys have managed to Yeah.
Karl [00:10:06]:
Yeah. We’ve already got a worst of list of 2015.
Chris [00:10:09]:
2015 is already, like yeah. Man.
Karl [00:10:13]:
Let’s not name the the Memento.
Sam [00:10:15]:
Yeah. We won’t name Memento in Hamilton. We won’t even link to them actually. I’ll put that all on the The. But I don’t usually drink hot drinks. So the the message from Chris was to Carl, hey, go get some coffee. Carl’s, yes, sweet ass. So we go to Momento, which is open.
Sam [00:10:32]:
I said, oh, I’ll have a hot chocolate. It’s probably the only hot drink I usually drink if I drink something. And, well, mine tasted like warm milk. And apparently The coffee tasted like I don’t know.
Chris [00:10:44]:
I don’t know what it was, but I couldn’t drink it. I honestly I couldn’t drink it.
Sam [00:10:48]:
I just put
Karl [00:10:48]:
it inside.
Sam [00:10:49]:
It tastes like they put the The grindings back in?
Karl [00:10:52]:
The the grindings from The the leftover grindings that they back into the the bucket and kinda Yeah. Threw some hot water in there The put them put in my cup. The sad thing is I’m so addicted to coffee. I’m actually drinking it right now.
Chris [00:11:03]:
Yeah. I can’t believe it is because I I love coffee. And, I was like, I’m still torn. It’s sitting there cooling down now, and I’m like, I can’t I can’t trick it. It’s disgusting.
Karl [00:11:15]:
There was a 50% chance that Chris was gonna put hot chili sauce in his coffee to give
Sam [00:11:19]:
it a bit of flavor, give it
Chris [00:11:20]:
a boost. Yeah. It would taste better with Tabasco in there, I reckon.
Karl [00:11:26]:
Oh, and, but, it was also a journey of actually purchasing The these coffees as well and the hot chocolate. So, rockin’.
Chris [00:11:33]:
So it’s public holiday because it’s just after New Year’s.
Karl [00:11:35]:
And, left boss machine breaks and she’s going, that’s alright. I’ll just go through offline. I was going, oh, wait a sec. I’m pretty sure it needs to be connected for it to work. But anyway, so The takes 5 minutes. And then this whole group of about 8 people turn up and get their second round of beers. I was like, woah.
Chris [00:11:50]:
And we’re talking like 8 30 in the morning. Yeah.
Karl [00:11:52]:
You’re just like, woah. These guys are pretty hardcore. And then I proceed to wait for 10 minutes and then get the worst coffees of 24 2015 given
Chris [00:12:00]:
to me. Hey, it’s probably the worst coffees of 2014 as well.
Karl [00:12:03]:
I know. This this might be a lifetime achievement, guys.
Sam [00:12:06]:
It’s gonna be pretty hard to get, worse hot chocolate as well.
Chris [00:12:10]:
Alright. So anyway, have we have we done with the bitching? I mean, the year’s only just started, and we’re already bitching.
Sam [00:12:15]:
Well, we can’t see it.
Karl [00:12:16]:
But if
Sam [00:12:16]:
they gave us good coffee, we’d be like, oh, this is amazing.
Chris [00:12:18]:
Yeah. We would be.
Karl [00:12:19]:
I love it how you guys just called them out straight away. You guys are awesome.
Sam [00:12:22]:
Hey. It’s our podcast. We’ll do what we want.
Karl [00:12:24]:
Yeah. I know. Right? Yeah. I’ve gotta take my shoes off. Right. Well, I’m in your house. Right? So I’ve gotta I’ve gotta show your speed.
Chris [00:12:32]:
Yeah. No. It’s all good. So, do we wanna do a 2015 best movies list, I think, is The one of your calls there
Karl [00:12:40]:
Yeah. Yeah. Beforehand? Yeah. Sure.
Chris [00:12:43]:
We’ll go around, and we’ll go around and just say one of your best movies. One of your best movies.
Karl [00:12:47]:
And of the best movies of 2014? 2014.
Chris [00:12:50]:
Yeah. Sorry.
Karl [00:12:52]:
I’m just gonna straight up there and say that Interstellar would be up there on my the best of list.
Sam [00:12:56]:
I’m trying to find the thing I read, but I for the life of me, I can’t find it. But Interstellar is the only top ten film in 2014 The wasn’t a remake, reboot, sequel, or from comics. It was the only original film. That’s exactly what I thought about when I
Karl [00:13:11]:
was waiting for my coffee, bro. Honestly. I went, I think I appreciate this movie because it dared to be original. It dared not to be a sequel. Yeah. And it dared to care about science enough to do the research to do it right.
Sam [00:13:23]:
They must have freaked them out when they came up with it and said chris is what we wanna do. And they’re like, but you know, you could do a reboot of something else.
Karl [00:13:28]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And Nolan goes and just shows us Batman’s and they go, okay. Do what you want, man.
Chris [00:13:33]:
Yeah. No. I I I totally agree. I it’s on my list.
Sam [00:13:36]:
This is at the point when I sam I haven’t seen it yet.
Karl [00:13:40]:
Full disclosure.
Chris [00:13:41]:
Oh, man. But, okay. So one of the ones for me is is a not so well known one, probably, The Purge Anarchy, which is a
Sam [00:13:50]:
Never heard of it.
Karl [00:13:50]:
I saw the first one.
Chris [00:13:52]:
Yeah. It it’s the second one of that. And the first one was okay. I was just horror. I saw the first one after the The second one. It’s a sci fi Alright. Thriller type thing, I guess. But, yeah, I saw it, the 24 hour movie marathon thing.
Chris [00:14:06]:
And, yeah, it was awesome. I I really really like that. How about you, Sam? One one movie I
Sam [00:14:12]:
haven’t seen many movies, so I’m just gonna go with Guardians of the Galaxy.
Chris [00:14:15]:
That’s That was on my list The. That was definitely on my list. Yeah.
Sam [00:14:18]:
So that’s definitely on the list.
Chris [00:14:20]:
Yeah. It was on my list.
Karl [00:14:21]:
I I cried a single tear when I watched that on Blu Ray. And I looked at my wife who somehow convinced me not to go to this movie. And I said, you owe me so bad because
Chris [00:14:33]:
because what did you get? You went to Noah instead, Everybody else went on The opening night to Guardian of the Galaxy’s
Sam [00:14:39]:
And you went to Noah.
Karl [00:14:40]:
Yeah. I know. Hey, guys. Hit the movies, and he was like, Facebooking back. Oh, Guardians of the Galaxy came out tonight. I went, no. It didn’t. Noah did.
Karl [00:14:49]:
And The he was like, woah, Carl. What happened?
Chris [00:14:51]:
No. No. It was pretty good Oh, no.
Karl [00:14:53]:
No. It was good, but there was no Guardians of the Galaxy. Honestly, they got The tempo, mood, everything about them. They just nailed them.
Chris [00:14:59]:
I reckon. I reckon. I I really did. It was a fun, fun movie.
Sam [00:15:03]:
Yeah. It definitely was. Yeah. Well, can I
Karl [00:15:06]:
can I just ask you guys something? When was the last time you saw a movie, like, like any movie, where the soundtrack actually felt like it had an influence on the actual movie itself? Because it’s been a long time since soundtracks actually were, like, real, real big thing. Not cunning, like, musicals.
Chris [00:15:23]:
Yeah. I mean, yeah. You’re right. Ga Guardians Galaxy, the the the soundtrack was really huge on that. It’s funny because after I did and to Interstellar, and of the guys from London, that I catch up with on Facebook and stuff, he he had seen it, and he was like, that guy’s gonna get an award for the sign the music and the scoring. Nice. It’s just like
Sam [00:15:45]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:15:46]:
And I so I went back and listened to it a little bit more The next time. And I was like, oh, yeah. No. It’s it’s fair call.
Karl [00:15:51]:
It was pretty good. New Year’s resolution for Sam watching Interstellar. Yeah.
Chris [00:15:54]:
Totally, dude. You gotta see it. I will. Seriously.
Sam [00:15:57]:
I will. I’ll I’ll get around to that.
Chris [00:15:58]:
Just on a sort of a segue, it’s a beautiful segue. There’s a book that we all like. I think we all like it because Sam’s only just read it called Ready Player 1. Have you you’ve am I right? Did you just read that?
Sam [00:16:11]:
Yeah. Yeah. I read it a couple of days ago. I read it in a day and a half.
Chris [00:16:15]:
Yeah. Yeah. Well, through it.
Sam [00:16:16]:
I, Imagine that as a movie.
Chris [00:16:18]:
Well, actually, that’s what I wanna talk about. It’s getting made. Excellent. So, it has gone through, it’s gone through, the script’s been written. Zach, oh, god. Zach, somebody has been working with Ernest Cline, and they’ve they’ve they’ve written The script. It’s been finished. There’s a few things that, obviously, they can’t quite do the same as in the book Yeah.
Chris [00:16:39]:
Which is fair enough, but, it’s sounding like it’s pretty good because he said he would run things because he was quite close with Cline, and he’d run things by him. And he said, if Klein said, yeah. No. That’d be awesome. He’d, like, leave it in. And if he said anything but that’ll be awesome, he’d go, back to the drawing board and rewrite it. Alright. So I got something I’m pretty happy about.
Chris [00:16:58]:
The biggest things that are holding them back is the licensing of all the games. Yeah. That’s pretty funny. Documentary, you could put fair use and just use whatever you like. But because it’s an entertainment film, you have to pretty much have licensing for all the games. So it’s gonna change the story because, well and in small parts because they’re not gonna be able to have all the games that they might have in there you know So, yeah. So that’s gonna be interesting. And, I guess who’s on the shortlist for, for, for being director?
Sam [00:17:33]:
Oh, for director? Oh, Michael Bay.
Chris [00:17:36]:
No, actually. It wasn’t on there that I saw. Peter Jackson is, though. And maybe laugh because in The, fan comment, somebody’s like, this will be a 3 parter. This should be a 3 parter. I’m like, oh,
Sam [00:17:47]:
my god.
Chris [00:17:48]:
It’s that meaning that he he wants, Peter Jackson. So I went into that and, and he wasn’t actually talking about Peter Jackson. He was actually saying there’s so much content in there that after copy key, was the the first, part, and then there’s another part, which was in 3 parts in the book anyway.
Karl [00:18:04]:
Yeah. I would say it probably had to be at least a 2 parter.
Chris [00:18:08]:
Yeah. Yeah.
Karl [00:18:09]:
Because if it’s like 2 hours, it’ll be hard to The cram that all the back story and as well as they’re having a great payoff at the end without it being
Chris [00:18:16]:
freaking Yeah. And if you don’t have those characters made right
Sam [00:18:19]:
in the
Chris [00:18:19]:
movie, because to me that’s what’s gonna dictate the length of the movie is how long it takes to get those characters embedded, you know, for the audience. But, yes. So that was interesting. And then somebody else is like, oh, oh, no. But if they give it to Peter Jackson, it’ll be a 6 parter. And, somebody else was, like, ranting, like, no. It should be and. It’s only a short book.
Chris [00:18:40]:
It should be The movie. Just edit it to, you know, The limit sort of thing. But I I think you’re right. I think it’s 3 parts in the book. You could almost just go with those 3 parts.
Karl [00:18:50]:
Let’s put it this way. After watching Ender’s Game, I felt, you know, another and book conclusion. I actually felt that there needed to be 2 parts, and The it’s a pretty short book as well, so I don’t know.
Chris [00:19:00]:
Yeah. I I’ve never read the book. I I saw the movie and it was pretty cool. Let’s just put
Karl [00:19:06]:
it this way that the time it takes him to ramp up and be awesome takes ages. And in the movie, it takes, like, 10 minutes.
Sam [00:19:12]:
Yeah. Yeah.
Chris [00:19:14]:
Yeah. But does that make it people. Does that make it better? I mean, I I I’m the first one to criticize Lord of the Rings because of a gazillion things, but I admit that, you know, and and The Hobbit has changed the book so much, but The Hobbit is so much better, written as a movie. I mean, you couldn’t make the book straight into a movie. It would be the most boring movie in the universe, you know. They had to add all the other stuff in there.
Karl [00:19:40]:
Yeah. I I get it and I guess I’m not a filmmaker so I don’t know the conversion, but when I remember the Ender’s Game book, the battle scenes in The short little, The school thing is the most fun part of the entire book and they only spend like 5 minutes on it. In the book, they and half
Sam [00:19:58]:
the book or a quarter
Karl [00:19:59]:
of the book kind of him ramping up and getting better at strategy. So I kind of missed that.
Chris [00:20:03]:
Yeah. Okay. No. That’s good. Cool. That’s good. Cool. So yeah.
Chris [00:20:06]:
So there’s, and there was one other thing and I just wanted to see what you guys think because there’s The guy, put a post, there’s only and person that can play h. Who do you think that would be?
Karl [00:20:20]:
I’m really worried about what you’re about to The, Chris. Yeah.
Sam [00:20:23]:
I I
Chris [00:20:23]:
sam worried. I because I I wouldn’t have picked this, but, the guy goes, Benedict Cumberbatch s to be h. And I’m like, he doesn’t look like a big African American woman. No.
Sam [00:20:35]:
No. That’s right.
Chris [00:20:35]:
No. No. But, you know, I I don’t know. I’d it yeah. Okay. Chris is my
Karl [00:20:42]:
wish list. Don’t get any big stars. Use the money for killer effects
Sam [00:20:46]:
and Yeah.
Karl [00:20:47]:
Everything else and just discover some talent. That’ll be awesome.
Chris [00:20:50]:
I I totally agree. I think you need young guys for the the main roles because they’re still in school and stuff. Right? So, yeah. I I I totally agree. Alright. Anyway, that was my segue or my aside off, into the, Ready Player 1.
Karl [00:21:09]:
Oh, yeah. Just go go and read it or listen to it, guys. I listened to it on, audiable.com.
Sam [00:21:14]:
Yeah. Yeah.
Karl [00:21:15]:
Wil Wheaton narrates it.
Sam [00:21:17]:
Because there
Karl [00:21:17]:
there was Wesley Crusher. Amazing.
Chris [00:21:19]:
Yeah. Yeah. That was so funny because I, I had been reading it, and Cal had Cal was the one that told me to read it right. And so I’m reading it, and I go back to him one day, and I was I was partway through it. And I was like, dude, they mentioned Wil Wheaton in The. Isn’t that cool? And he just looks at me funny. He goes, Wil Wheaton narrates the audiobook. And I my mind just exploded a little bit.
Sam [00:21:41]:
I remember you guys mentioning this book when we went up to the Telecom and UN conference, like, 2 years ago. Mhmm. And I’ve got this random note on my Evernote on my phone that I’ve was like, I don’t know
Chris [00:21:50]:
what that is. Read Ready Player and. Eventually got
Sam [00:21:54]:
around to it, which is good. Yeah. So carrying on the movie theme, have you guys seen these photos?
Chris [00:22:01]:
Alright. So we’re looking at, on the monitor here, a photo of from Star Wars, is that?
Sam [00:22:07]:
This is from the new Star Wars that’s coming out at the end of the year. They’re using way more, practical special effects. There’s 5 people inside that thing.
Chris [00:22:15]:
Oh my god. The moves? I thought it was just like a No.
Sam [00:22:18]:
It moves. I wanna see it move. Oh, yes. Hell. All these photos of extras and
Karl [00:22:23]:
Another reason why I left Stella is how many physical fix are in it.
Chris [00:22:26]:
Oh, yeah. The guy movie. That guy hated, Nolan hated, doing, CGI.
Sam [00:22:33]:
Cool.
Chris [00:22:33]:
And so Cool. The that spaceship exploding, you know, where Was
Sam [00:22:37]:
it a miniature then?
Chris [00:22:38]:
Yeah. It was a miniature a miniature 14 foot tall, miniature, you know, like, it was huge. And they, they rigged it with explosives and stuff, you know, when the guy opens and hatch and what Yeah.
Sam [00:22:51]:
Are you you I’m just gonna go I’ve seen it. I’m just gonna go along with it.
Chris [00:22:54]:
Yeah. So they rigged it with explosives and stuff, and, no one was so anal, I think chris the word, about getting the right, camera shot. They said put I want a camera on there and they go, but it’s going to explode. We don’t want to kill the camera and he
Sam [00:23:11]:
goes, I
Chris [00:23:11]:
don’t care.
Karl [00:23:12]:
It dies.
Chris [00:23:12]:
I want I want the camera on there. So he’s got it. They’d rigged it and I explained in the article, but I can’t remember exactly what it was. They rigged it, so the camera was on there. And as it exploded, it got a pin got pulled, and it sort of, wire like on a wire Yeah. Flew up flying fox camera going backwards off the miniature while it’s spinning and exploding. And it’s just amazing effect.
Karl [00:23:35]:
We we this all links to Star Wars because I feel like they come full circle. Right? Yeah. Original.
Sam [00:23:41]:
Yeah. Yeah.
Karl [00:23:42]:
All miniatures. All practical. Yep. Then we have, the preludes. Yeah. Let’s just With
Chris [00:23:48]:
as much CGI as you can cram in with a stomp on and cram in some more c
Sam [00:23:53]:
g I. More CGI. More CGI.
Karl [00:23:54]:
Yeah. And then then there’s the special editions with, random bad CGI inserted. It’s great to see all j j going, coming back to the roots and actually giving real stuff.
Chris [00:24:03]:
Oh, yeah. Totally. Totally. And so, yeah. I I got at least one message on New Year’s Eve. Happy new Star Wars year 2015. Oh, is that from Sash? Yeah. It was from Sash.
Chris [00:24:16]:
That’s the, highlight of the year as far as Sash is concerned.
Sam [00:24:19]:
Well, The there must be a there’s bound to be a countdown clock somewhere that everyone’s staring at.
Karl [00:24:23]:
Search for a man.
Sam [00:24:24]:
The should search for it. It could be a product that The could have made.
Chris [00:24:27]:
A countdown clock.
Sam [00:24:29]:
And you just adjust it, like have it all Star Wars themed and then just adjust it to your local time zone and it’s just going to and you have like Darth Vader or something or The of the droids just moving.
Karl [00:24:39]:
Wait a sec, Sam. That, The unconference we went to 2 years ago, I had the guy who managed the website for the the prequels.
Chris [00:24:48]:
Yeah. Oh yeah. That’s right. Yeah. Yeah. That’s right.
Sam [00:24:49]:
He did.
Karl [00:24:50]:
We actually met the guy that made the website with the countdown on it for the last prequels. That’s right. And he organized all the events.
Chris [00:24:57]:
It was
Karl [00:24:57]:
Link. It was Link.
Chris [00:24:59]:
Link. Yeah. Hey, Link.
Karl [00:25:00]:
What’s up?
Chris [00:25:01]:
Yeah. Link. I’m sure you’re listening into The Chris and Sam podcast.
Sam [00:25:04]:
We will
Karl [00:25:05]:
now. Yeah. Total shout outs.
Chris [00:25:07]:
Yeah. No. No. Yeah. I I mean to get back in touch with Link too. He was a cool dude.
Karl [00:25:12]:
Oh, man.
Chris [00:25:13]:
Mhmm. He was a He mentioned it a couple of times. So do you wanna mention something about this, telecom unconference?
Karl [00:25:19]:
And more thing about Link is he basically invented The countdown website thing. You know how there’s a period of time during the the naughties where every movie will have like a website you go to and has the countdown, has links to the The, and gives you a bit of background? And it’s like standard now. Every movie has its own website. But he basically invented that.
Sam [00:25:38]:
Yeah. He was doing that back in the day when Yeah.
Chris [00:25:41]:
But he was doing it for the fans, not for the movie. That’s right.
Sam [00:25:44]:
And then they contacted him at some point.
Chris [00:25:46]:
And said, oh, you’re good at this. Do this for
Sam [00:25:48]:
us. Yeah.
Karl [00:25:49]:
It’s cool. It’s really cool. We basically invented a new way of fans interacting with movies. Yeah. No.
Chris [00:25:54]:
That is cool. So, yeah. The, telecom, unconference thing, we’ve all been. Yeah. It’s, the Spark unconference.
Sam [00:26:03]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:26:03]:
Yeah. Sorry.
Sam [00:26:04]:
That’s what it’s called now. Can you
Chris [00:26:05]:
can you explain oh, I haven’t been since it’s changed its name. Can you
Karl [00:26:10]:
Let’s not talk about that. Can you
Chris [00:26:12]:
explain, what and unconference is there, Kyle?
Karl [00:26:16]:
Oh. Okay.
Chris [00:26:16]:
You’re an organizer now.
Karl [00:26:18]:
I’m on the committee. Okay. So and unconference. So imagine your normal corporate conference, conference you go to with yucky agendas and keynotes and just remove all that, remove all the crap of corporate life and just imagine getting like a and of the coolest people you know in different areas in technology all passionate about something. Put them in a room. Oh, yeah. Put them in a room and then get them to come up with what you talk about. And we break it up into these
Sam [00:26:46]:
sessions.
Karl [00:26:47]:
Yeah. What we call sessions. But so the only piece of organization is you got The post it notes and a wall and some, pens. Put up the sessions and everyone chooses which one they go to. So you come up with the content and you and people attend that who want to know more about it. Yeah. Yeah. And it’s the whole weekend.
Chris [00:27:04]:
And they and it’s it’s it’s, pushed forward a lot. If you’re in a thing and you’re not enjoying it, get out and go to the next session. Walk out in the middle of the session, doesn’t matter. Nobody’s gonna judge you. So it’s a lot of fun because you get out of it what you want. But I think the key thing that
Sam [00:27:18]:
because I was on the organizing
Chris [00:27:18]:
committee a while back, is is who you get along. And And and the general guideline The we used to have when it was telecom, so I was talk it call it telecom, was, we’d have, and third telecom technical people, 1 third tech telecom non technical people, and 1 third non telecom people.
Karl [00:27:44]:
100% that’s
Sam [00:27:45]:
where I fit in. I’m non telecom.
Chris [00:27:47]:
Yeah. I I I dragged Sam up there. I dragged Kel up there, actually.
Sam [00:27:51]:
That’s pretty good. I I the only thing is I feel stinks sometimes by not being able to go to all the sessions. Because sometimes there’s like awesome sessions on at the same time. And afterwards people are like buzzing out about something that happened. And the thing that gets me, I think last year, and I’m gonna have to think about it if I go, another time, is sometimes the description that they put on the whiteboard is a little bit deceptive.
Chris [00:28:18]:
Oh, yeah.
Sam [00:28:18]:
So they’ll have something real generic, doesn’t sound that good, and then afterwards these people come out and they’re like, oh my god, the conversation went from this to this to this and oh my god, mind blown. Yeah.
Chris [00:28:28]:
Yeah. And and, you know, it why don’t they record all those things? You’d think they they should hire some
Karl [00:28:36]:
sort of technology. That’s part
Sam [00:28:38]:
of the magic because as soon as you start getting into that, you’re getting a bit more corporate, and then they’ll wanna stream it, put it online.
Chris [00:28:44]:
Yeah. And and you can’t And people will stop and think about what they say because it’s a very open environment.
Sam [00:28:50]:
Well, a lot of the stuff people say there can’t be repeated anywhere else.
Chris [00:28:53]:
Yeah. Yeah. That’s true.
Karl [00:28:54]:
Was it Friend DA. Yeah. Friend DA. Yeah.
Chris [00:28:57]:
It’s like a nondisclosure amongst friends.
Karl [00:29:00]:
It’s like fight club rules, but more geeky,
Sam [00:29:03]:
I guess. We should do fight
Karl [00:29:05]:
club there next time. Sold. We got that. Yeah. Thanks
Chris [00:29:09]:
Yeah. As opposed to what was it that you guys did that I missed out of? The jumping over a cactus and throwing a dart?
Sam [00:29:16]:
Oh, no. No. No.
Karl [00:29:16]:
No. Steeple dart. Steeple dart. I can either confirm or deny stipple
Sam [00:29:20]:
dart existed. I’ve seen
Chris [00:29:22]:
photos and videos. I’m sure I have,
Sam [00:29:24]:
haven’t they? They’re not on my phone at all. Doctored. Yeah. Photoshop Photoshop Sam.
Chris [00:29:29]:
Alright. Alright. So we’ve made, our listeners jealous about, if you ever get a chance, if you’re listening to this podcast and you ever get a chance to get invited to go to an unconference
Sam [00:29:38]:
Don’t question it. Just go.
Chris [00:29:39]:
Just go. I have invited so many people. You have no idea the number of people that I’ve invited that would have been good there. Like, I’ve invited Darius 3 times, Annette 2 or 3 times. So Yep. Just calling people out? It’s awesome. Yeah. And and they just they just never never turned up.
Chris [00:29:57]:
And, I I mentioned these names for a reason because Cal knows these people. They would have done well there. Right? They would love Anyone would do well,
Karl [00:30:04]:
to be honest, but we don’t we if we invite you, it’s because we think you have a bit of you expect that they could bring something to The Yeah.
Chris [00:30:12]:
Definitely. Conference.
Karl [00:30:13]:
So there is a bit of a, I wouldn’t say screening process, but you gotta be patient.
Chris [00:30:16]:
There is a total screening.
Karl [00:30:18]:
Chris. Listen to this guy. He’s no longer
Sam [00:30:22]:
in the fold. Don’t listen to him.
Chris [00:30:23]:
What you call him.
Karl [00:30:24]:
I’m gonna do one more shout out for the the Unconference. Just if we got all these smart, passionate people into technology, just imagine how much fun it is to have a few drinks with them after the sessions as well. Oh, man. That’s part of it.
Chris [00:30:34]:
The Yeah. The socializing afterwards was huge. Huge.
Sam [00:30:38]:
It’s very good.
Chris [00:30:39]:
Alright. We should do that for New Year’s. We should have a New Year’s and conference for geeky people. Okay. Maybe not.
Karl [00:30:45]:
We’re and 3 days away or whatever. Yeah.
Sam [00:30:48]:
Yeah. Sweet. Add that to everything else that we’re trying to sort out.
Chris [00:30:52]:
Yes. Okay. Alright. I’ll I’ll stop with the ideas now. Okay. So I don’t know. That’s pretty much us for
Sam [00:30:59]:
That’s pretty much us. We haven’t covered anything that we wanted to. We spoke a lot.
Chris [00:31:03]:
The, no. We used all my notes.
Karl [00:31:05]:
Like, I
Chris [00:31:05]:
covered everything on my notes.
Sam [00:31:06]:
Oh, that’s good. You used my notes. He’s got a piece of paper which he says chris notes. That’s a first though.
Chris [00:31:13]:
No. I did that on episode 2 as well. Chris is episode 14, isn’t it? Yes. Well, there you go. So it’s it’s not and unprecedented.
Karl [00:31:22]:
And aren’t you meant to end and of these, like, first of the the new year kind of podcast with some sort of resolution? Nah.
Sam [00:31:29]:
We’re gonna do that in the next one.
Chris [00:31:30]:
We’re gonna we’re gonna do a resolutions podcast. We’ll bring you back for that one. Yep. And we’ll do a resolutions podcast on the next one.
Sam [00:31:37]:
So I think that’ll be us for now just because of time wise.
Chris [00:31:40]:
Yep. So, obviously, come along to the chris com. Check out the show notes. There’ll be links to probably nothing this time. There’ll be links to the photos The photos, the Star Wars photos that you just shared and stuff like that. But if you’ve got any topics you want us to cover in 2015, make sure you can you can Twitter us.
Sam [00:32:02]:
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Chris [00:32:03]:
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Sam [00:32:13]:
Check us out there. Share us around. And, yeah. That’d be great.
Chris [00:32:17]:
Share us around. Yeah. Do it. Alright.
Sam [00:32:21]:
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Chris [00:32:21]:
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