Summary
In this weeks podcast Chris had an inverted escape room experience, find out how he went. We talk about anxious dogs and an idiot trying to buy expensive cars.
A Kiwi pro golfer has done something no one else has ever done, you won’t believe the odds of it happening.
Should more sword fights in schools be a thing?
Chris busts out one of his classic stories from his past, this time it involves Interpol.
This wee we went to a Waikato Screen event where writer/director of kiwi film Home Kills Hayden Butler talked about the process of getting this film onto the screen.
We also learn why a Canadian university wants to get rid of it’s vending machines, and Sam wraps up the podcast by getting vocal about the National party.
All this and so much more. Come have a listen.
Links
Kiwi pro golfer does something no one has ever done before
Man tried to buy expensive cars with crazy cheques
Sword fights in schools lead to teachers being stood down
NZ man to be extradited to Australia after 2015 assault
Canadian University wants Vending machines removed
National and their bullshit
Show Transcript
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Sam [00:00:21]:
Hello, and welcome to episode 471 of the Chris and Sam podcast.
Chris [00:00:25]:
I’m Chris.
Sam [00:00:26]:
And I’m Sam. Welcome along to your weekly fix of randomness technology in life and all that stuff in between.
Chris [00:00:31]:
Yes, absolutely.
Sam [00:00:32]:
The glue that holds life together.
Chris [00:00:33]:
The glue that holds life together. Hey, start off, just start off, Last week, you told a fantastic story about your escape room.
Sam [00:00:41]:
I know. Shout out to Adam. He quite liked it. Shout out to, Jamie as well who didn’t mention that. He was talking about something else. Alright. But thanks for listening.
Chris [00:00:49]:
Yeah. Jamie, I don’t think chris caught up with that episode. But, yeah, I had the inverted experience. So you know, you got the food scrap bin that’s too big to put indoors and maybe outside the front The. And so I have a little ice cream container on my bench.
Sam [00:01:07]:
Yeah. Yeah.
Chris [00:01:07]:
So the food scraps go in The, when it’s done getting full or whatever, I go out and toss it in. Open the door, and there’s all these ants on the The. And I’m looking at ants and whatever, and I’m not even thinking. I shut the door, and I go and Good. Think and I come back and I’m like, oh, crap. I’ve locked myself out of the house. The phone’s inside because the, you know, Trump news that I was listening to, whatever it was, is still blaring away inside and I can hear it. And my keys, of course, are inside.
Chris [00:01:35]:
Everything’s inside. So I am armed only with the ice cream container.
Sam [00:01:40]:
Okay.
Chris [00:01:41]:
So it took me 2 and a half minutes to break into the house with an ice cream container. Break the lock. Get the lock. Ass. I know. That’s why I’ve got alarm here. So I was like, it’s a bit of an anticlimax compared to your story.
Sam [00:01:54]:
Yeah.
Chris [00:01:55]:
But, yeah. Roomed The ice cream container, but it got me in the house maybe 5 minutes. It it wasn’t long.
Sam [00:02:02]:
Excellent. I’ve got this bad cough,
Chris [00:02:05]:
I’m trying not to cough. Every time I make him laugh, he’s gonna have a coughing fit. So that is my goal for this
Sam [00:02:13]:
episode. Thanks. Hey,
Chris [00:02:16]:
Now I’m coughing.
Sam [00:02:17]:
It. We’ve got the podcast name on a t shirt that’s going to Spain in 5 weeks.
Chris [00:02:22]:
Woo hoo.
Sam [00:02:23]:
Forgot to tell you The. Sarah’s nephew is going to Spain for a, whatever you call it, exchange student thing.
Chris [00:02:29]:
The exchange student. Yeah. I
Sam [00:02:31]:
think they’re only there for 2 weeks, 3 weeks, maybe something like that, And The were like, hey, we’re doing this fundraising thing. We’ve got 24 spots on the back of this t shirt, and it’s from 1 to 25, and the most expensive is 25. I was like, yeah, I want 25. Let’s steal it. And they’re like, yeah, yeah, sweet ass. So we’ve got I think at the very top of the shirt is the chris and all these other random things, and at the bottom is giantpumpkins.co.nz. I brought 2 of them.
Chris [00:02:57]:
And so that’s on and t shirt or each and of the shirts? Just for the t shirt. Oh, right. I see.
Sam [00:03:03]:
But I’ve never seen The before with so many. Mhmm.
Chris [00:03:05]:
And I
Sam [00:03:05]:
was like, that’s a great idea.
Chris [00:03:08]:
That’s interesting. Yeah. It’s an interesting idea. So just before we were talking, I’m just gonna say this because I haven’t got it written down or anything. Just before we started
Sam [00:03:16]:
His memory may fail.
Chris [00:03:17]:
Yeah. My memory may fail. We’re talking about a friend of the, podcast who may actually be listening because they’ve finally heard about the podcast. So, Prashant, if you’re listening.
Sam [00:03:27]:
That’s me.
Chris [00:03:27]:
So, yeah, Sam was telling me you’ve got a little dog that gets a little agitated after a while
Sam [00:03:33]:
I think so.
Chris [00:03:34]:
Is being left.
Sam [00:03:35]:
I don’t know. I’m just I’m just guessing.
Chris [00:03:36]:
Well, no. It’s interesting. So when I when I used to after I was breaking into houses for a living, when I was doing security alarms for houses, like door to door sales, I was knocking on doors and I stopped at and place, I can’t remember where it was, it was a long time ago, and I used to stop in lots of places every night. And I’m having a wine with the folks because, you know, that’s what you do when you’re trying to sell alarms. And we ended up talking about their little dog and they had a little, I don’t know what sort of dog it was. It was like a little poodle, not like a poodle poodle.
Sam [00:04:12]:
A toy poodle then.
Chris [00:04:13]:
Yeah, something like that maybe. It could be anything, I have no freaking clue. But anyway, he said, yeah, it used to have anxiety. They used to go out of the house and they come back Yeah. And it’d be anxious as.
Sam [00:04:25]:
Yeah. Yeah.
Chris [00:04:26]:
And so he said, they went to dog psychologists. I remember this because I was like, there’s such a thing as
Sam [00:04:31]:
a dog psychologist. Top dollar these days, I bet.
Chris [00:04:34]:
I I know. Ever since the dogs have been worried about COVID, they’re making loads of money.
Sam [00:04:38]:
Do you know what else they’re making heaps of money with dogs? This is a real side tangent. Is, dog specific vitamins because who knows if they’re working? They’re not gonna tell you.
Chris [00:04:49]:
Nobody knows if they’re human once they’re working.
Sam [00:04:51]:
Yeah. I know. You’ve got at least you can
Chris [00:04:54]:
you can
Sam [00:04:54]:
say I feel better.
Chris [00:04:55]:
Yeah. Anyway, so so anyway, The the result of this was, and this has been a problem for a long The, the result was when they go out, they shut the doors so their dogs only gets into 3 rooms of the house.
Sam [00:05:08]:
Okay.
Chris [00:05:09]:
Because what it does is when everybody’s away, it feels like it has to patrol. And because it was such a big house, it’s running constantly all around the house to make sure there’s no intruders. Yeah, yeah. But when you lock it in within like the garage where it sort of had its bowl and stuff in the bottom room or whatever, knock it within a few. And it’s quite happy to do a little circuit and lie down, and get up and do a little circuit and and lie down.
Sam [00:05:32]:
Oh, anybody would have thought of that.
Chris [00:05:33]:
Yeah. Yeah. It’s one of those little random pieces of information that’s stuck in my head.
Sam [00:05:38]:
Excellent. Hey, a Kiwi pro golfer has done something I don’t think anybody else has ever done. This is a female golfer, so she’s probably getting paid less. Emilia Garvey is a pro, tour person, so she is the 1st professional golfer to get an eagle, an albatross, and hole in 1 in the single round. Okay?
Chris [00:06:00]:
Right. So a hole in and. What’s an albatross?
Sam [00:06:04]:
I think it’s 2 or 3 under par and the other one’s 2 under par or 1 under par. So pretty crazy.
Chris [00:06:10]:
Yeah, okay.
Sam [00:06:10]:
What do you think the odds are that they’ve put on that happening? This is the big part of the story.
Chris [00:06:17]:
Well, if it’s first time it’s ever and, it’s gonna be like a and to 1.
Sam [00:06:20]:
No. 4,500,000,000,000 to 1. What? 4,500,000,000,000 to 1 is what they’ve come up with. Holy and. Imagine if you put a bet on that somehow.
Chris [00:06:31]:
Yeah. Nobody take the bet, but they they might take the bet for a million to 1.
Sam [00:06:36]:
Maybe.
Chris [00:06:36]:
They would. Like, you would. You’d go, yeah. Okay. That’s pretty cool.
Sam [00:06:42]:
This dude in Indiana, might as well be Florida. Pretty close. I don’t know. They’re all special. He, he thought that he could go buy a new Porsche, just by going in and giving them a check as you do. Now how much do you think a Porsche goes for? Just off the tip. It doesn’t even matter what you say.
Chris [00:07:06]:
Anywhere from 60,000 to 150,000, I’m guessing.
Sam [00:07:10]:
Yeah. So he wrote a check out for $78,000,000 and gave it to The. And that’s
Chris [00:07:16]:
78,000,000.
Sam [00:07:17]:
Yeah. So he just had a check that he probably stole. I don’t know where he got the check from, but it makes no sense. And they’re like, no. Like, anyway, so Pete,
Chris [00:07:26]:
can I have the change, please? What the hell?
Sam [00:07:28]:
But anyway, they’re gonna do him from criminal trespass because he was sort of wandering around out the back for a bit and one count of disorderly conduct because he didn’t really do anything illegal. He’s just an idiot. But the day before, he went into a Land Rover dealership, and what do you think the check was he wrote there? A $12,000,000 check. So, What? He’s just a dick writing checks.
Chris [00:07:54]:
I’m just speechless because I was like like, why? Why? There’s no why. I I I gotta talk about this because there’s 2 stories and I The both in the states, I think.
Sam [00:08:06]:
That’s where all good stories come from.
Chris [00:08:08]:
Yeah. Although, I’m not quite quite sure with volcano vista oh, Albuquerque. Yeah. So I think My
Sam [00:08:14]:
brother knows where that is.
Chris [00:08:15]:
Of course. Yeah. Volcano Vista. But I was gonna talk about this one, but And gonna talk about the other one first because I thought that was the first because, these kids were this this teacher got suspended for letting kids hit each other with pool noodles.
Sam [00:08:34]:
Oh, okay.
Chris [00:08:35]:
Basically, and smacked the other one in the face and that broke the glasses and and bruised his face.
Sam [00:08:41]:
I just want to say as a user of pool noodles The had to have been followed through with a fist or something. A pool noodle you can’t
Chris [00:08:49]:
They must have been hitting him like all of The, bashing him
Sam [00:08:52]:
all the sam time. Yeah. Whatever. Okay. So she just
Chris [00:08:55]:
And the teachers like harden up, and she got suspended. Yeah. But chris other teacher
Sam [00:09:00]:
At Vista Vista Volcano.
Chris [00:09:01]:
At Volcano Vista.
Sam [00:09:02]:
Volcano Vista. Yeah.
Chris [00:09:04]:
And chemistry class. Yeah. And it’s like, it’s a decision that has parents wondering what was she thinking?
Sam [00:09:12]:
Okay.
Chris [00:09:13]:
Brought swords into class and just put the timer on and got the kids to fight each other.
Sam [00:09:21]:
There’s a couple.
Chris [00:09:21]:
There’s a couple. There’s a couple. Until somebody stabbed himself in the hand and had to get surgery.
Sam [00:09:28]:
But the weirdest thing is it’s a chemistry class.
Chris [00:09:30]:
It’s not chemistry.
Sam [00:09:31]:
How what does that tie in with anything?
Chris [00:09:33]:
There was there was some pathetic tie in here. I read it.
Sam [00:09:37]:
Oh, there was.
Chris [00:09:37]:
There was. Oh, there was something.
Sam [00:09:39]:
The sparks of the thing.
Chris [00:09:41]:
So she had to go the kid had to go to surgery in in the ER and all that sort of stuff, which is pretty bad. The teacher told students she had a surprise that day and brought out 2 swords. The suit said she put on a timer, had them clear away the discs and instructed them to take turns fighting each other. And there’s some cell phone footage here.
Sam [00:10:04]:
Yeah. Of course.
Chris [00:10:06]:
Oh, yeah. According to an incident report, the assistant’s principal, because obviously she filled in and incident report like that.
Sam [00:10:12]:
Yes. You do. Yeah.
Chris [00:10:13]:
Claimed the teacher had brought the swords to discuss the science of metal and melting.
Sam [00:10:17]:
Oh, that’s a loose loose term.
Chris [00:10:20]:
But I’m like, you know, I think they should more frequently bring swords to schools for American schools, because it’ll bring the the the shootings down so much more. Let your students stab each other and there’ll be less school shootings. That sounds like a very American solution to that problem.
Sam [00:10:41]:
They could probably do that. Yeah. Our chemistry teacher at high school, he always used to tell jokes all the The. Yeah. Like that was his thing. And then every now and then and be like, if I told you not to mix that and not to mix that because if you did, you would die and I left the room, you’d all be dead when I come back. He’d like to tell you that like multiple times. It’s like okay.
Chris [00:11:05]:
Oh, god.
Sam [00:11:06]:
This story I read, recently, and it it’s I get it, but it’s also I find and bit crazy. So this guy was in Australia in 2015. He was young, dumb. He got into a fight Yeah. And, it I think he I think he beat the crap out of somebody.
Chris [00:11:25]:
Right.
Sam [00:11:25]:
And I don’t think they died or anything. He didn’t know that he was considered a suspect in the violent chris. Right? So that’s okay. Since those 9 years have passed, he’s grown up. He’s the breadwinner for his partner and his baby. He has stable job. No criminal record here whatsoever, and he’s all good. And now the Australians have gone, in Perth and Western Australia, you know what? We’re gonna extradite you now.
Sam [00:11:51]:
Yeah, you come back and do that. So they’re gonna, The Commonwealth of Australia is currently processing or progressing through the New Zealand court system. He lives up north. He’s the only one that and money for his family. He’s been oblivious to this fact, but they haven’t reached out to say anything. They’ve just done this. They issued a warrant for his chris, but the, extradition request wasn’t received until 2022. So I don’t know if that’s just Slack paperwork or whatever.
Sam [00:12:18]:
And he had no he hasn’t been hiding or anything.
Chris [00:12:21]:
Do you
Sam [00:12:21]:
know what the crazy thing is? He’s been to and from Australia several times and he never gets picked up at the border.
Chris [00:12:30]:
Yeah. No. It’s that’s crazy.
Sam [00:12:33]:
But when he goes over there, they might hold him for some silly amount of time. I think it’s 3 months up to a year. He might just be sitting there doing nothing while they’re trying to figure out the court proceedings. Mentor way.
Chris [00:12:46]:
Yeah. That’s that’s just dumb.
Sam [00:12:48]:
So, I
Chris [00:12:49]:
mean, to be fit well, we’ve all done dumb things.
Sam [00:12:52]:
I just can’t believe that the distance of time Yeah. Which is one thing.
Chris [00:12:56]:
That’s when they have that, what do you call it?
Sam [00:12:58]:
Statue of, limitation. Yeah. Yeah. But not picking him up even though he’s been backwards and forwards. That’s the crazy thing, like if they went into the country and
Chris [00:13:06]:
they’re like, hey, you’re this dude. I I reckon that a lot of that port control is just chris, it’s just so bad. So mum put out and alert on me when I was with Interpol when I was in Spain.
Sam [00:13:19]:
Because she didn’t know where you were?
Chris [00:13:20]:
Or Yeah. Because I I Did you
Sam [00:13:22]:
not answer a phone call? Oh, no. Actually, The was no phone call. There was
Chris [00:13:25]:
no postcard. Yeah. No. I wrote to her every month. Right? Like, regularly. Every 4 weeks, there would be a Is
Sam [00:13:32]:
this gonna turn into a story where they hunted you down? Carry on. No.
Chris [00:13:37]:
Although okay. I’ll tell you some story. So, I I I would write her a letter every month, and then I heard from my friend. So this for everybody out here listening, there was a time where there was no Internet. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And there was a time with no cell phones.
Chris [00:13:55]:
And in this time, Chris traveled the earth. So it
Sam [00:13:58]:
I’m amazed he made it back.
Chris [00:14:00]:
I was in Spain. And I wrote these letters every month The month, and, and I heard back from from guys. So my mate, Glenn, you know, would write me a letter, and he says, oh, Nathan. Our our mate, Nathan, is going for his black belt.
Sam [00:14:13]:
Okay.
Chris [00:14:14]:
And I I had sort of introduced Nathan to the club. It’s a big honor to be there when when they go for the black belt.
Sam [00:14:18]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Chris [00:14:19]:
And I’ve been training with Nathan for ages. He actually worked with The, moved to Wellington, started working with me, and that’s how I introduced him to Club. So everybody sort of met him through me type thing at the time. So I’m like, I’ve got to get back for his black belt grading.
Sam [00:14:33]:
Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
Chris [00:14:34]:
So, I made the decision in my head, I’m going back. So I didn’t write mum after that because in my head, I’m coming back, but I wasn’t going to tell her that because I was going to be a bit of a surprise. But you
Sam [00:14:43]:
thought the time frame would have been quite shorter, would you say?
Chris [00:14:46]:
I a lot was happening, so I just didn’t think about it. Like I don’t even know.
Sam [00:14:50]:
How long did you not write to her?
Chris [00:14:52]:
3 months.
Sam [00:14:52]:
Okay.
Chris [00:14:53]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:14:53]:
Okay.
Chris [00:14:54]:
So it’s only 3 letters.
Sam [00:14:55]:
Yeah. I know. But still, you’re she knows you she knows you, and you’re out in the world by yourself. Like
Chris [00:15:00]:
Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, I, I had to do extra work, save up some money to Yeah. To get back. I got, you know, you know, what you we yeah. I got I got approached by someone who remained nameless. Not anyone could track them down, I’m sure. They’re probably dead by now.
Sam [00:15:18]:
Great.
Chris [00:15:18]:
To to,
Sam [00:15:19]:
to bring a check over the
Chris [00:15:20]:
drugs into the UK from
Sam [00:15:22]:
so Sam, Spain The the UK.
Chris [00:15:23]:
Yeah. Because we’re across the water from Morocco. So that’s where all the hashish has grown. So yeah. Would you would you
Sam [00:15:30]:
would you would you would have to have used a prison wallet?
Chris [00:15:33]:
Yes. Exactly.
Sam [00:15:33]:
Okay. That
Chris [00:15:34]:
would have been a
Sam [00:15:34]:
Okay.
Chris [00:15:35]:
So, well, swallow swallow caramels basically is what they called it. And I’m like, no. I’m not doing The, which is funny because I, they they did a big testimonial, rugby match for me because I’d played rugby for a couple of years. Oh, yeah. And they had a match on just for me, all the different clubs.
Sam [00:15:50]:
Oh, wow.
Chris [00:15:51]:
Yeah. And the night before the game, I tripped hope I got drunk. I tripped over a parking, stick. They have these little, iron rods in the footpath so the cars can’t park them.
Sam [00:16:02]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Stepped over The
Chris [00:16:03]:
and broke my hand.
Sam [00:16:04]:
Oh, my gosh.
Chris [00:16:05]:
Broke my thumb. And so I go to my own testimonial rugby match and couldn’t play.
Sam [00:16:10]:
Good times. Good times.
Chris [00:16:12]:
What a dick. And then I’m getting and the plane. I got tipped over at at the airport going into the UK. They’re like, sir, can you come with me? So picture chris, I’ve got shoulder length sunbleached blonde hair.
Sam [00:16:24]:
I can’t picture that at all. Oh, yes.
Chris [00:16:26]:
I because I’ve been, and I’ve got my hand in the car arm in the car.
Sam [00:16:30]:
Yeah. It’s not looking good.
Chris [00:16:31]:
And they checked me out.
Sam [00:16:32]:
Hang on. Are you sweating bullets now?
Chris [00:16:35]:
No. Because I didn’t.
Sam [00:16:36]:
No. I know. But are you just like, oh, it’s gone. Blowing. No. No. I I I You’re oblivious to the
Chris [00:16:40]:
most. Thanks. I’m gonna tell a story on a podcast one day. Yeah. Yeah.
Sam [00:16:45]:
When I’m when I’m making all this money on this podcast.
Chris [00:16:48]:
The they checked me out, and they checked out a thing, and then we threw my bag and all that because I had a, you know, backpack type bag and all that stuff.
Sam [00:16:56]:
Were they weary of your cast? Were they like was something in there?
Chris [00:16:59]:
I think they did check it. It was it was sort of a bit Splinty.
Sam [00:17:03]:
Half cast.
Chris [00:17:04]:
Yeah. Because it was really only the thumb.
Sam [00:17:06]:
Yeah. Okay.
Chris [00:17:06]:
It wasn’t a a full cast. And so yeah. Anyway and then they did a really bad job. I had to get it redone when I came back to New Zealand. So I I went to UK, stayed with some friends for a couple days, and then got a plane back to New Zealand. So The was alright. But, yeah, I get I finally get home. So I ring sam from The Wellington Airport because I’m like, oh crap.
Chris [00:17:25]:
I don’t know if she’s home now I ring her and she goes. Where are you? I’m like, oh, you know, just just in Spain. She goes, what time is it there? And I’m like, I’m jet lapped. I’m like, The don’t know. 6 o’clock. 6 o’clock? I think that’s when she said, where are you? And I was like, well anyway anyway Yeah. What are you up to today? And then we’ve got taxi around to to mom’s place and surprised The. And it was very cool.
Chris [00:17:51]:
It was very cool. It was surprising. But, yeah, she goes, oh, I’ve been so worried about you because you haven’t written for months. I’m like, oh, haven’t I? She goes, yeah. I called in to poll and everything. Like, they took me out of the airport, and they still didn’t.
Sam [00:18:04]:
I was gonna say, so there’s a file somewhere, probably?
Chris [00:18:06]:
There was. It wouldn’t still be going.
Sam [00:18:08]:
I don’t know. I don’t know. But, anyway The Interpol, if you’re after this dude Wait. He’s doing a podcast now.
Chris [00:18:14]:
After it as a rescue thing, not after it me as a criminal thing. It’s hard to tell. It’s hard to tell. Anyway, moving on.
Sam [00:18:24]:
So so this week we went to the Waikato screen event.
Chris [00:18:27]:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Sam [00:18:28]:
It was The Hayden Butler. Hayden Butler, who’s the director of Home Kills
Chris [00:18:32]:
Yep.
Sam [00:18:32]:
Which is a really cool film,
Chris [00:18:34]:
And it’s It’s funny because because we saw it at this film theater, I thought everybody had seen it. I didn’t realize it’s only just coming up to its release.
Sam [00:18:42]:
Yeah. Me too. I was the same. And and and because he wanted to say a couple of things then, he was like, oh, we’re not saying that. Because it’s the main thing that happens. And he’s like,
Chris [00:18:50]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He couldn’t give give away any spoilers. So,
Sam [00:18:54]:
June or July?
Chris [00:18:55]:
Yeah. That’s about it. And because I was gonna talk to him afterwards, and I didn’t get to it, and I forgot about it actually. Because I was gonna say, you should see if you can get some promotion in with field days. Oh, yeah. Because I reckon that it worked really well.
Sam [00:19:10]:
Just the Waikato element.
Chris [00:19:11]:
Yeah. Yeah. And and partly because it was filmed in in Hamilton during field days, and they had a lot of trouble getting accommodation for the crew Yeah. For The field days. But I I was thinking about our mate Steve and all that sort of thing. That’s right. They should have some sort of and maybe. I don’t know if it would work or not, but yeah.
Sam [00:19:30]:
Now I’m thinking if the Billy Film Office people should be Waikato screen should have something at Field Days. Yeah. Like a showcase it’s beneficial to both parties.
Chris [00:19:39]:
Yeah. Waikato’s screen should have something about home kills. It should field goes here. That’s a good idea.
Sam [00:19:44]:
There we go. Let’s tell Matt.
Chris [00:19:45]:
Yeah. Let’s do that. Alright. Moving on.
Sam [00:19:48]:
What do you got?
Chris [00:19:48]:
Oh, oh, yes. So no. Was there anything else about the, Home Kills thing? Oh, it was it was it was
Sam [00:19:55]:
it was good it was very informative. I think a lot of it came down to having the right people that were good made a lot
Chris [00:20:04]:
easier. Yeah.
Sam [00:20:05]:
Yeah. Including the The, like he seemed pretty chill.
Chris [00:20:07]:
Yeah. He he he’s got a lot of industry experience. He overreached in terms of being writer, director, and producer. Mhmm. And, honestly, if there’s 2 things you don’t want to mix together, I think it’s producer and director.
Sam [00:20:20]:
No. Yes. Right.
Chris [00:20:21]:
Because they have conflicting Yeah. Roles.
Sam [00:20:24]:
And their brains have to think about things differently.
Chris [00:20:26]:
Yeah. And and they’re supposed to be intention. And having that in and person is not a good and. No. Unless you’re schizophrenic, then maybe give it a go. Why not? Okay. Top tip there
Sam [00:20:40]:
from The Chris and Sam podcast.
Chris [00:20:43]:
But, yeah. No. So so it was pretty cool. Yeah. So if you haven’t seen Home Kills, keep an eye out for it. It’s really good. I was expecting a dark comedy very much like Black Sheep when I went.
Sam [00:20:58]:
Yes.
Chris [00:20:58]:
And apparently The trailer looks way more scary than it is.
Sam [00:21:04]:
Yeah. Yeah.
Chris [00:21:04]:
It’s quite atmospheric film. It is a drama drama slash thriller with some light moments in it. It’s definitely a really good New Zealand film, so.
Sam [00:21:14]:
This university in Canada, is going to remove or has asked to get all the vending machines removed off campus. A student discovered an indication they might be using facial recognition within the machine. So he goes up to the smart vending machine. So vending machines these days, the real clever ones, tell the vendor, the people that own it, if they’re out of stock.
Chris [00:21:37]:
Yeah. Like that’s
Sam [00:21:38]:
been around for a while. I think Coke machines are doing that for a while.
Chris [00:21:40]:
Yeah. Like like your your home fridge does if you’re really expensive. Yeah.
Sam [00:21:44]:
Yeah. If you want
Chris [00:21:44]:
this to buy a local order. Yeah.
Sam [00:21:47]:
So but these are owned by M&M, the company behind them, and it had It’s
Chris [00:21:53]:
Mars, isn’t it? The Mars is M and M. Yep.
Sam [00:21:56]:
Well, it just says m and I don’t know why The story says M&M brand vending machine, but yeah. It’s Mars, isn’t it?
Chris [00:22:00]:
Yeah. Yeah.
Sam [00:22:01]:
Anyway, I don’t know. It had an error code, and it said something about facial recognition dotapp.xeeapplicationerror.
Chris [00:22:08]:
And said, what the hell? You’re too ugly to buy M and M’s.
Sam [00:22:14]:
So they yeah.
Chris [00:22:15]:
The green M and M doesn’t like you.
Sam [00:22:18]:
That’s right. So it caught the attention of the University of Waterloo and they’re like what the hell is chris? This writer for a student publication called Math News called River Stanley, that’s a name, he started investigating it and Adaria Vending Services provide them. They’re manufactured by someone called and Vendor Group, and Mars do own them. They said no. No. No. It doesn’t do that. An individual person cannot be identified using the technology in the machine.
Sam [00:22:48]:
It does not take or store any photos or images, and nobody can be identified. It only acts as a motion sensor that detects faces so the machine knows when to activate the purchasing interface. That’s it. Don’t know if I believe them because it could just be a motion sensor, couldn’t it? It doesn’t need the camera bit.
Chris [00:23:09]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Sam [00:23:10]:
Like, it doesn’t need to know it’s a face. It just goes, someone’s here, light up the thing.
Chris [00:23:15]:
What could be touch? As soon as you touch a button Exactly. It lights up.
Sam [00:23:19]:
I think it’s what we do here, but I’m interested to like look at stuff now if I go past them. So they’re just like, nah, get rid of them. We don’t want them.
Chris [00:23:25]:
That’s that that is interesting.
Sam [00:23:28]:
And they say it’s not connected to anything. It says it does not store it, communicates, or transmits any of this imagery or personally identifiable information anywhere.
Chris [00:23:38]:
It’s funny because when they go so stridently that it doesn’t, it doesn’t, it doesn’t, I’ll go what is it doing? Because I mean you you protest too much. What’s going on?
Sam [00:23:49]:
You know it’s profiling people, and it goes okay, The student has got ginger curly hair, a weird beard, and whatever else. We think he’s this height, this weight, he’s buying this thing. Yeah. Like, they’ll work out demographics.
Chris [00:24:03]:
Well, yeah. Is it electronically changing the price? Oh, yes. Stoned. Let’s put the price up. Have you been
Sam [00:24:14]:
took yeah.
Chris [00:24:14]:
Have you been
Sam [00:24:15]:
to Woolworths lately with chris stupid new rebrand?
Chris [00:24:17]:
No. No.
Sam [00:24:18]:
Oh, it’s mental. So do you have a reward card you think? The orange card? Okay. Before you go there, if you ever go there, you need one of those cards because the pricing on the label has two prices now. Special rewards pricing and other pricing, which is normal sort of ish, you know.
Chris [00:24:36]:
Because that’s what they sort of did before.
Sam [00:24:38]:
No. It’s next level now. It’s like this thing normally costs $10, but if you got the The, it’s $4.80. Like The pricing is so out of whack now, you would never go there without this card.
Chris [00:24:50]:
Oh, shit. Yeah. I had a card at and point, the countdown card at one point, and I was just like Just
Sam [00:24:54]:
keep that in mind when you go there and look at the tags because you can’t get the cheap price unless you’ve got the card. And when you see some of the prices, you’re like, what is going on?
Chris [00:25:03]:
Okay. Or just don’t go to Canada.
Sam [00:25:05]:
That’s the public service announcement there.
Chris [00:25:06]:
Yes. Worries anymore. Yeah. So what do you think about, semi automatic rifles in New Zealand? We should totally unbanned them now. Right?
Sam [00:25:14]:
Is that what we’re doing now?
Chris [00:25:15]:
Apparently. Oh,
Sam [00:25:16]:
good. Because what they’ve done now also that’s that’s fun. What they’ve also decided to do, there’s muscle barges and things all around the The, right? Yeah. Been set up since the seventies or whatever and they’re just like, you know what, we’ve spoken to a select few salmon farmers and stuff down the south line, 6 of them actually, and they sort of don’t like some of the stuff we’re doing, so what we’re going to do, we’re going to give everyone in that industry another 25 year lease where they are, doesn’t matter if they’re environmentally friendly or not because the positives outweigh the environmental risks.
Chris [00:25:50]:
That’s a very
Sam [00:25:52]:
national Shane Jones, I think. Chris stuff they keep coming out with is mind boggling.
Chris [00:25:59]:
I I was just like, what are you talking about? We’re going to be freaking doing semi automatic rifles and and reverse that that policy. Like, I I I there’s not a lot of things that would activate me in New Zealand. That’s one of them. It’s like, no. No. It’s we did the hard thing, which was Yeah. Stopping them and cutting them off. You don’t want to do the easy thing, which is like, I will keep 3 or 4 people happy and a lot of killers happy by by letting them out.
Sam [00:26:30]:
They’re just mental. The other thing they were doing, I got, I wrote a little reply to something on Reddit. I got over 380 upvotes. So I’m getting a little calmer on The stuff. Yes. So, David Seymour is in opposition, has always been against, lunches and schools. He does not like that. It’s a waste of money.
Sam [00:26:51]:
Yeah. And he is now the minister in charge of The. Yeah. Looking at it, and he’s gonna reduce it by 50 or 30%.
Chris [00:26:58]:
Yeah. At the same time as The other dude, the bald guy in charge, what’s his name?
Sam [00:27:03]:
Blackson.
Chris [00:27:03]:
Yeah, him. He’s like, oh, yeah, but I’ve got an allowance that I’m entitled to of $52,000 a year. So you’re gonna get
Sam [00:27:10]:
for and allowance?
Chris [00:27:11]:
For my house The because I it’s too drafty to live in the the government and, but I’m living in that freehold house at home.
Sam [00:27:19]:
I own he owns 7 houses.
Chris [00:27:21]:
Yeah, and how can you justify $52 a year, which by the way is more they earn, it’s He’s a man
Sam [00:27:28]:
of he’s a man of the people.
Chris [00:27:29]:
Yeah. But it’s an entitlement. And I’m like, do you not see when kids say, oh, I’ve got an entitlement to some lunch at school, and you go, no, you don’t, but I have an entitlement for $52,000 for something that’s absolutely no use to anybody.
Sam [00:27:46]:
So Jacinda stayed in parliament house, The other prime minister’s hat didn’t, but they never took that entitlement.
Chris [00:27:52]:
Kaye, Kaye stayed The?
Sam [00:27:55]:
Only a little bit, I think.
Chris [00:27:57]:
Yeah. Maybe only a little bit, but I I do know he stayed there, a bit.
Sam [00:28:00]:
But the lunches thing makes no sense to cancel it. He’s just like, well, he’s sort of like, well, you know, if they can’t kids that don’t have lunch, yeah, that’s fine, but they’ve probably got other problems at home. So at Sarah School, they they have the The. That’s some of the only food that those kids have for the whole day.
Chris [00:28:19]:
Yeah. We we,
Sam [00:28:20]:
Whatever’s left over, they give to the families at the end of the day and they’re so grateful because they’ve got no other food. It’s like they have it doesn’t matter and yeah. It’s just it’s do The a hit on.
Chris [00:28:32]:
We we dealt, when I was at Gilmore’s, we delivered the supplies to the local rural kitchens around like King Country and and all that sort of thing for them to make up the school lunches. Yeah. And it’s hey, it’s jobs, it’s it’s all that The stuff as well. Right? Yeah. Because there’s a lot of people employed in The. So from Gilmore’s Yeah. The drivers getting out there, the people in those kitchens Yeah. And the distribution from the kitchens to school, I guess.
Sam [00:28:57]:
And one of the weird not weird, but different side effects is The menu changes every term, I think it chris, but there’s 2 menus. So 1 week The this menu and the other week it’s The next menu, and it just keeps alternating. A lot of this food is sometimes different, but this is food these kids would never eaten before in their life. Yeah. Because if all this goes away, what they get is they get this weird snack pack lunch thing that the parents buy from the local dairy. Yeah. And it’s just sugar and carbs and shit, And then you wonder why the kids are more feral than they already are. Yeah.
Sam [00:29:31]:
So anyway, good on you, National. Oh, they may also because you know they’re doing so much thing. They are thinking about potentially we don’t need railways, do we? Don’t worry about that. So Tohueya, that’s too much money. That’s
Chris [00:29:46]:
Are they gonna Maybe.
Sam [00:29:47]:
He’s thinking about it. The so they’re thinking because they reckon every time someone buys a ticket, that has to get subsidized for $90. Right? So they’re like, no. No. The local council should do that. So they’re thinking, oh, let’s just let’s get rid of that. They’ve I think I don’t know if it’s come I don’t know if it’s come into effect, but they’ve definitely told Waka Kotahi NZTA, hey. When you build new roads, you don’t think about cycle ways or footpaths.
Sam [00:30:10]:
That’s not your job. Don’t worry about that. When you’re building new roads, don’t worry about that. That cost too much money.
Chris [00:30:15]:
They shouldn’t be building new roads. They should be building freaking railways.
Sam [00:30:19]:
No. No. But what they’re gonna and, apparently, some of that land, it’s not really being used, so we’ll probably just sell it. So it sounds like they’re gearing up to sell a bunch of land that railways on, and I saw some commentators online. They said and that happens, you can never get that back.
Chris [00:30:36]:
No. Because the cost.
Sam [00:30:38]:
I was like, because and then what about the inter islander fairy? The freaking what’s her face? The this it makes me so angry because it’s so stupid. So they had a deal, that was halfway through and that Nicola Willis goes, it’s gonna cost too much. So I can’t remember how many millions it was. Right?
Chris [00:30:56]:
Yeah.
Sam [00:30:56]:
Whatever it was. 40,000,000. I don’t know. It’s it’s just a ton of money. And she said, oh, no. What they were looking at doing is they were going to get a secondhand ship or something or something. She said made up the thing. It turns out there are no other ships in the world available, right? So if we need 1, it’s gonna be brand new.
Sam [00:31:13]:
So they’ve canceled it. We’re going to get and in whatever it is. I think we lose $70,000,000 from canceling that deal. So it’s it’s 40 or $70,000,000.
Chris [00:31:23]:
So this has actually happened, not talked about?
Sam [00:31:25]:
I think so. Yeah. It’s hard. You you have to really, really keep up with what they’re doing because they’re pushing stuff through all the time. It’s crazy. So we’re gonna lose out on all this money because they canceled whatever this deal was. We then have to be at the end of the queue for anyone building a new ship, and then they can just they know that we’re screwed, so they probably just make up a price and go.
Chris [00:31:46]:
You And it’s it’s as I understand it, I might be a little wrong. It’s a fairly unique, type of ship because it’s a
Sam [00:31:55]:
unique sea It was something like there’s only 22 ships in the The. That was the figure I think I read. Yeah. And only and none of them are for sale. They’re all being used.
Chris [00:32:05]:
Yeah. Good because it’s, the Cook Strait’s pretty rough. It’s not a it’s not a lake ferry.
Sam [00:32:10]:
No. You know what I mean?
Chris [00:32:11]:
It’s a special type Yeah. And it’s to do
Sam [00:32:15]:
with that it opens up and it unloads, and then one of them carries trains. The train goes on it And something to do with that. So anyway, good times all around. Keep an eye on it. I don’t know what anyone can do.
Chris [00:32:28]:
I don’t know.
Sam [00:32:29]:
They don’t like poor they don’t like poor people. So
Chris [00:32:31]:
Yeah. I don’t know how they got in, man. Mind you. I knew the jig was up when we we lost the referendum on dope.
Sam [00:32:38]:
Oh, what country just put that through?
Chris [00:32:41]:
Oh, I
Sam [00:32:41]:
can’t remember. Some countries just agreed to do that.
Chris [00:32:44]:
Oh,
Sam [00:32:44]:
really? Legalize it. Yeah. We can’t. Anyway, that brings us to the end of the podcast. I hope The didn’t depress you. It might have made it might have made you angry. I think, oh, Brett loves The national party. He’s all over chris party, like, wishing he had a big bald head like his industrial leader.
Chris [00:33:01]:
Oh, yeah.
Sam [00:33:01]:
Best CEO of the world. Oh my god. Anyway,
Chris [00:33:04]:
I I don’t know The Luxon dude just seems to be such an idiot. He doesn’t seem to know anything.
Sam [00:33:09]:
He’s not a politician. He’s a CEO and the people at, in New Zealand, a lot of them did not like him. Yeah. Because at the end of the day, in his brain, he thinks I just have to balance the budget and return money for the shareholders and his shareholders and his brain are the landlords of New Zealand.
Chris [00:33:25]:
Plus himself.
Sam [00:33:26]:
And himself. You stuff everyone else. Anyway, I’m sure it’ll all work out. There’ll still be a podcast. That’s something. Until next time. I’m Sam.
Chris [00:33:33]:
I’m Chris.
Sam [00:33:34]:
See you. Bye.
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